Sharing because I feel it's significant and may help someone. I believe each section of this fence corresponds to a specific puzzle/dig spot in chronological order. Yes, there's 13 sections. I believe they run together but show an area on a map close to the dig spot. (and the little dude has a shovel) Let the insanity ensue. https://imgur.com/a/k0OqrKc

or, its just a fence at the back of someones whose hair spells 'Boston"

Did you test your hypothesis with the Cleveland and Chicago sites? That would tell you if you're on the right path or not. So 12 pictures/verses and 13 "maps" doesn't make any sense. You also say chronological...is that chronological in terms of verse or in terms of picture? You're not wrong for throwing out ideas but maybe it's better to test your own theories before you make new threads like it's something to look into. So far I see nothing true with what you've said...and this is one that can be easily tested based on the found casques.

munchacho wrote:: Did you test your hypothesis with the Cleveland and Chicago sites? That would tell you if you're on the right path or not. So 12 pictures/verses and 13 "maps" doesn't make any sense. You also say chronological...is that chronological in terms of verse or in terms of picture? You're not wrong for throwing out ideas but maybe it's better to test your own theories before you make new threads like it's something to look into. So far I see nothing true with what you've said...and this is one that can be easily tested based on the found casques. I have tested the theory and it works with many things.......I believe they run together to create a convincing fence pattern. I throw it out there to obtain other ideas. There are things I'm questioning but prefer not to share right now. As for 13.......that's a completely different conversation that has taken place before on this forum and other places. 13 is important.

karleen wrote:: I have tested the theory and it works with many things.......I believe they run together to create a convincing fence pattern. I throw it out there to obtain other ideas. There are things I'm questioning but prefer not to share right now. As for 13.......that's a completely different conversation that has taken place before on this forum and other places. 13 is important. Ok can you show us which piece of either Cleveland or Chicago coincides with the fence posts then? That doesn't reveal anything about what you are looking into. I just don't know what scale you are looking at (e.g. is it shapes in a 50 ft radius or is it the overall shape of one of the parks). For someone who is pretty new to this, how does 13 fit in here? There are hundreds of pages of forums to go through and I'm not about to go on a separate treasure hunt for the number 13. Thanks

@munchacho, I messaged you

That's very interesting Karleen. So you're thinking, the pattern in the segment of the fence (moving left to right) matches up with the dig spot? so the first fence segment matches up with the San Fran image?

leighanny wrote:: That's very interesting Karleen. So you're thinking, the pattern in the segment of the fence (moving left to right) matches up with the dig spot? so the first fence segment matches up with the San Fran image? I'm thinking it's worth looking into. The serpent-like dragon in Image 1 is similar to the serpentine fencing in the first panel and--although I can't really say what --parts of the end of the fence (sections 12 and 13) help me with two different images.

karleen wrote:: Sharing because I feel it's significant and may help someone. I believe each section of this fence corresponds to a specific puzzle/dig spot in chronological order. Yes, there's 13 sections. I believe they run together but show an area on a map close to the dig spot. (and the little dude has a shovel) Let the insanity ensue. https://imgur.com/a/k0OqrKc Love your theory ! Are there 13 sections? there could be 14 .... the one in the middle (on the fold) seem to be two separate ones (look at the musical notes on top)

mariska wrote:: Love your theory ! Are there 13 sections? there could be 14 .... the one in the middle (on the fold) seem to be two separate ones (look at the musical notes on top) Yes!! Those are also important.

karleen wrote:: Yes!! Those are also important. wonder if the one w the fold could be Cleveland...beneath two countries

Although I don't know the significance of 13, I have to think Karleen is right about this. I'm not big on coincidence, so as each of these fence segments has a unique image, I think it's somehow linked to the main images. My stupid book doesn't even have the fence segment at the fold, so thank you for posting the photo.

someone tears it off your book or something?

Spiritr wrote:: someone tears it off your book or something? No, the printing just left it out. It's blank next to the fold.

OK, I am not being bias here, but logically speaking, that's very unlikely and here's my little experiment, in a 12inx9in rectangle, I copy and pasted both P.2&3 into it just like how it would appear in the actual book. I then use the same font (ITC Bookman) size 29, and 2" spacing, which is exactly how it appears in the book, here... the measurements of the fence columns were ~0.5in each, (left to right on p.2 from 1 to the 9, 4.46, the 4 on p.3 are exactly 2 inches.) so even if I shift both pages 0.5in off from the center, there will be a ~0.7 gap between the 9th circle and the 10th on p.3, so it's totally up to you to believe your eye or believe in Math. plus in order to have a 14th column, both the framing and heading format has to be wrong. which....is just not the case here AND, if you count the columns carefully....there are 13.5 columns, one without the circle and tip between 11th and 12th

Spiritr wrote:: OK, I am not being bias here, but logically speaking, that's very unlikely and here's my little experiment, in a 12inx9in rectangle, I copy and pasted both P.2&3 into it just like how it would appear in the actual book. I then use the same font (ITC Bookman) size 29, and 2" spacing, which is exactly how it appears in the book, here... the measurements of the fence columns were ~0.5in each, (left to right on p.2 from 1 to the 9, 4.46, the 4 on p.3 are exactly 2 inches.) so even if I shift both pages 0.5in off from the center, there will be a ~0.7 gap between the 9th circle and the 10th on p.3, so it's totally up to you to believe your eye or believe in Math. plus in order to have a 14th column, both the framing and heading format has to be wrong. which....is just not the case here AND, if you count the columns carefully....there are 13.5 columns, one without the circle and tip between 11th and 12th Spiritr, Thank you for your feedback. I know you apply math and logic in your solutions and I don't aim to be critical of your (or anyone's) method, but I teach Art and Math and they are not interchangeable. Are they sometimes? Yes, but there are hidden images in every painting and drawing in this book and math cannot explain them, specifically things in the back of the book. They are there as hints for the observant and not intended for an algebraic equation. I see my location and, alternately, several areas I am looking (in other places on other puzzles) inside this fence. I do not believe they are in order but something is there. I do not claim that this is absolute for all puzzles. I am, merely, putting it out there as a possibility.

Yes and hands down I completely agree there are things hidden in plain sight... but what if it's already there? there are things missing on these 2 pages, and those drawing are there for your reference? regardless what's hidden, at the end, whatever it is, for any purpose, it has to make sense and connect, right? so there 9 on one page, 4 on next page but it seems 1 is missing....you don't have to look elsewhere, it's right there on page 2. And that's our very first reference clue in the book. btw, like I told you before, I lack imagination, hahaha,so maybe that why Art to me are all about proportions, patterns, and geometry....

Can I get a side-by-side with the cleveland find location? I've been looking and just don't see anything when I compare it google maps. Tell me which section I should be looking at. I'm open to all theories but at least show some visual proof so people can give their opinions.

Actually the spacing of the letters would not effect the spacing of the images. in the 1980s layout of pages like this was done manually (paper sissors and glue) you would know exactly how wide the print image would be and you would lay it up from the outside edge moving in. so text lines up -- images on the other hand are arbitrarily cut and pasted on the page where they look good... so the lettering at the top of the page might have been done days or even weeks different than the images. Thats just how layup worked, there would a text guy and an image guy and they would work separately. the following is just ocd kicking in...

ok, so we talking about something that was there and it should be there without altering with frame and font spacing? or are we suspecting how the original looks like? It's different, and I'm not trying be bias here like I said, I too can see something was there so Matt you have the original book, how big is the gap/cut offs (white area) between these 2 pages? and I still don't understand how does adding 0.5" on the bottom does not affect the spacing on top and the framing...how?

Because text is measured in from the right and left depending on whether it is a right or left page. that way the binder has room to play. play being use up more or less space when either booklet binding or perfect binding. Images are added later and placed where they look good on a single page. i,e centered under text. text was put on using text rulers images are just fit in. its the same

maltedfalcon wrote:: Because text is measured in from the right and left depending on whether it is a right or left page. that way the binder has room to play. play being use up more or less space when either booklet binding or perfect binding. Images are added later and placed where they look good on a single page. i,e centered under text. text was put on using text rulers images are just fit in. its the same Matt you're correct, I was a little stubborn and it really is the same. After spending $800 for the original copy of the book. I can now confirm there should be 14 fence columns total. I think we should focus more on this page, I strongly believe the title page plays a very significant role of the puzzle If my prediction was correct, this page contains information, clues, and hints. To help starter get on the right path, and help those who's probably only a step away from the casque. The information contains were not for any specific image, verse or city. It's for ALL. It can be used as a extra reference or "confirmer" in case we stuck with the Verses or Images. And after some serious research I basically did a blanket search flipping every pages including the Japanese books. It really seems like everything kinda just point me back to the title page.

Karleen, are you... feeling okay? I only ask because you posted a new thread, rather than simply posting in the thread for clues in the book... and your only contribution is to suggest that each panel represents something, but you won't share what it is? Certainly, you can see how that doesn't lead to any constructive conversation? This is very much unlike you, is why I'm extra confused. As mentioned, please share how this could have been used in Cleveland or Chicago (or even New Orleans, since I consider that solved).

drunknerds wrote:: Karleen, are you... feeling okay? I only ask because you posted a new thread, rather than simply posting in the thread for clues in the book... and your only contribution is to suggest that each panel represents something, but you won't share what it is? Certainly, you can see how that doesn't lead to any constructive conversation? This is very much unlike you, is why I'm extra confused. As mentioned, please share how this could have been used in Cleveland or Chicago (or even New Orleans, since I consider that solved). Hey drunknerds! How do you figure NO is solved?

drunknerds wrote:: As mentioned, please share how this could have been used in Cleveland or Chicago (or even New Orleans, since I consider that solved). and if I really show you, you sure you can handle the disappointment? and when the results are different from what you expected, you will still appreciate the time I spend on sharing my knowledge for you?

Spiritr wrote:: and if I really show you, you sure you can handle the disappointment? and when the results are different from what you expected, you will still appreciate the time I spend on sharing my knowledge for you? I would appreciate it if you could share ANY useful knowledge. All stocked up on disappointment from reading your posts.

BINGO wrote:: I would appreciate it if you could share ANY useful knowledge. All stocked up on disappointment from reading your posts. Which of the following answers best describe " A Treasure Hunt " ? A. Studies of mysteries with elaboration of methods and strategies. B. Decipher clues and remote sensing imageries for interpretation of geo-locations. C. To search and look for lost or missing valuables. D. None of the above.

Spiritr wrote:: . After spending $800 for the original copy of the book. I can now confirm there should be 14 fence columns total. DAMN DUDE! I could have just sent you a picture of the pages...

it's too late, and....I did try asking those who have the book for scans and measurements, too much hassle I guess but put it this way, what I bought was a piece of history, can't compare it with the digitals....right? ( to made myself feel better I had to made up some excuse...) Back to the subject, Bingo, this questions is all you need and I did it per your request using it with P.2 and P.3 can open up A LOT of possibilities.

and if I really show you, you sure you can handle the disappointment? and when the results are different from what you expected, you will still appreciate the time I spend on sharing my knowledge for you?[/quote] I would appreciate it if you could share ANY useful knowledge. All stocked up on disappointment from reading your posts.[/quote] Which of the following answers best describe " A Treasure Hunt " ? A. Studies of mysteries with elaboration of methods and strategies. B. Decipher clues and remote sensing imageries for interpretation of geo-locations. C. To search and look for lost or missing valuables. D. None of the above.[/quote] It is D. None of the above, which in turn means "all of the above". This question you posed does nothing in terms of adding ideas or theories.

Karleen has gone AWOL - been looking for her and she is not on any of the FB Secret groups anymore.

Unknown: It is D. None of the above, which in turn means "all of the above". Before any further discussion, I think I have to clarify a couple things here first, by all means, if you think the things I post were irrelevant and it doesn't provide any help towards the solutions, that's because your ego sets you up for the disappointments. Not me. None of the above which in turn means all of the above? If that's the case, by saying this question I post does nothing in terms of adding ideas or theories could mean the opposites as well?

@spiritr Absolutely NOTHING that you have posted moves the needle for any of the puzzles. You claim to have a press pass, who gives a shit? You claim to be creating a 3D model of the Cleveland casque site using construction plans and google earth. Again, who gives a shit? You claim to be an all knowing interpreter for every language ever spoken. This is one area that you would think you may be able to contribute. You have not. But, who gives a shit? You have vast knowledge of theory and advanced mathematics that no one else seems to possess. Who gives a shit? Bottom line, you do nothing but troll and attempt to make yourself look like something that you are not. If you never made another post... Can you guess what line comes next?

BINGO wrote:: Bottom line, you do nothing but troll and attempt to make yourself look like something that you are not. If you never made another post... Can you guess what line comes next? regardless of whatever I post, that you don’t give a shit about. Then why did you ask whatever you did at the first place to begin with??? I do nothing but troll? Perhaps you should take a look at yourself first, of what you’re saying right now. The problem is not what I claimed or attempted to show, but your ability of acceptance are just too low, you didn’t even try as far as I can tell, you basically just wanna engage in an argument instead of a discussion.

Spiritr wrote:: Which of the following answers best describe "A Treasure Hunt" ? A. Studies of mysteries with elaboration of methods and strategies. B. Decipher clues and remote sensing imageries for interpretation of geo-locations. C. To search and look for lost or missing valuables. D. None of the above. Hello, Sorry for the interruption, as I'm fairly new here. The forum is filled with fascinating information and history and it'll probably take me a while to catch up. Please excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong on my ingenuous comments below. Based on the subjectivity of this question, you're trying to project a conjecture instead of theory. Even though I have no idea what the clues are, but if everything you said is true and relevant, I very much wants to give it a try. The most obvious answer that best describes the term should be C. You purposely italicized and quoted "A Treasure Hunt" as a hint for the answer, it is the subtitle of the book which also appears to be missing on the folios. So "missing valuables" = "Treasure" ? I'm guessing there could be more to it, I look forward for your solution. Thanks for reading.

Spiritr wrote:: regardless of whatever I post, that you don’t give a shit about. Then why did you ask whatever you did at the first place to begin with??? I do nothing but troll? Perhaps you should take a look at yourself first, of what you’re saying right now. The problem is not what I claimed or attempted to show, but your ability of acceptance are just too low, you didn’t even try as far as I can tell, you basically just wanna engage in an argument instead of a discussion. Make a statement about something. Introduce something as evidence. Let’s hear a real theory that comes from that ever so brilliant mind of yours. The answering questions with another question routine is old. The grand statements that never really finish a complete thought is old. Telling people that they don’t have the ability to think on your level is old. If you have half of the abilities that you claim, the 10 remaining casques should be easy pickings for someone of your caliber. Do the forum a favor and either put up or shut up.

Unknown: you're trying to project a conjecture instead of theory. Unknown: The most obvious answer that best describes the term should be C. You purposely italicized and quoted "A Treasure Hunt" as a hint for the answer, it is the subtitle of the book which also appears to be missing on the folios. So "missing valuables" = "Treasure" ? Unknown: I'm guessing there could be more to it, I look forward for your solution. Welcome to the forum HappyLife, and thank you! I can see that's your 1st post, so overwhelming! You're from Santa Rosa ? Sonoma or Valley? I'm from San Francisco, btw No, it's actually the other way around, unlike speculating clues from Img/Verse, which we know what it's for with given instructions. As for the title page, everything was just hypothesis I actually get this by keep asking questions, using the answer to ask another question...and so forth I'm speechless, not only that you're correct, you even try to make connections. That was exactly how it works too... Yes, there's more to it, I'm sorry I wish I could but as you can see, if I satisfy you and go on with my "answering questions with another question" routine, someone will be pissed, I was even warned with "put up or shut up", for 1 simple question I asked, you see all those abusive remarks I got? So to avoid and stop the controversy, I'll end this here and will not give any "grand statements" anymore. That way, everybody's happy But you can PM me if you like.

Karleen is fine .we both just spent a ridiculous amount of time researching for her last two dig trips and we are taking a break .thanks gman for the concern .she will be back .

Thanks for the info about Karleen...

xsdjr wrote:: Thanks for the info about Karleen... Hello. I am back and I'm truly touched that any of you noticed or cared. Thank you, hunt family. I'm going through a truly difficult time at the moment but I miss this and all of you terribly. I promise to be in touch soon. I have so much new information to share from the beginning of the book--which should be hugely refreshing since so many of you are anti-back of the book. lol Thank you for checking in. I'll be back with more videos and crazy ideas soon. **Teaser: NYC, I found the 40.

karleen wrote:: Hello. I am back and I'm truly touched that any of you noticed or cared. Thank you, hunt family. I'm going through a truly difficult time at the moment but I miss this and all of you terribly. I promise to be in touch soon. I have so much new information to share from the beginning of the book--which should be hugely refreshing since so many of you are anti-back of the book. lol Thank you for checking in. I'll be back with more videos and crazy ideas soon. **Teaser: NYC, I found the 40. Hanging out in a park with a 40 is a very NYC thing. Glad you are all in on this, lol.

karleen wrote:: **Teaser: NYC, I found the 40. 40 + 74 = approximate latitude and longitude of Statue of Liberty correct? https://www.latlong.net/c/?lat=40.689249&long=-74.044500

gqchu wrote:: 40 + 74 = approximate latitude and longitude of Statue of Liberty correct? https://www.latlong.net/c/?lat=40.689249&long=-74.044500 New York City, in general

♢ T H E S E C R E T ♢ These Cret?

Karleen, I just assumed your were talking about a 40oz beverage.

She's not usually a beer drinker but me on the other hand can do a few 40s in a park .

These days I'll drink just about anything. I'll be back soon. Things have gotten away from me at work and I need to let things settle. Miss you guys

Which hints the spot must be close to the nearest restroom lol

Spiritr wrote:: ♢ T H E S E C R E T ♢ These Cret?

I was just bored and decided to play around with ♢ T H E S E C R E T ♢ and since nobody ever questions the title of the book, perhaps it's worth trying? who knows? THE(3), SECRET(6); 2 words, 9 letters, 3 syllables if you look at Page 3 and read it backward, you'll get " TERCE ", meaning the 3rd hour, or 9am and looking at the fence below, there's a 1/2 column, right between the 2nd and 3rd column, and right before the C if you look up, and that's how I got "These Cret " Merlin, I know... as usual, I get it. Just ignore it if you think it's stupid or ridiculous, it's really random that's why I didn't even bother to talked about it.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances ... cheers.jpg

Spiritr, you're back! Did you get the message I sent you?