Thread Summary
This thread follows the energetic and controversial journey of JoshCornell1, a treasure hunter who claims to have solved the The Secret Houston casque puzzle. The community watches (and reacts) in real time as he updates from the field—digging in Hermann Park, fighting off fatigue, and breaking $1.40 shovels.
🌧️ Boots on the Ground
- Josh arrives in Houston under dreary weather, determined to dig at Lykes Grove.
- He posts from the airport, from the museum, and even while hiding from a worker sitting *right by the f***ing treasure.*
- Despite setbacks, he claims to have identified the exact location using references to the Miller Outdoor Theatre and the old fountain site.
📸 Pics or It Didn’t Happen
- Many forum members encourage Josh but demand proof. Without photos, videos, or any documented holes, his credibility wears thin.
- Doghousereiley, a local, tries to meet Josh and later physically goes to the park to search for any sign of the digs—finding none.
- Josh mentions filming a documentary, which only raises expectations for visual evidence that never quite appears.
🔥 The Peanut Gallery
- Community reactions are a mix of encouragement, mockery, and brutal honesty.
- burnstyle, WhiteRabbit, strike13, and others try to support Josh—while also poking holes in his logic.
- fox, BINGO, and maltedfalcon challenge his shifting theories, inconsistent locations, and absence of results.
- Heated quotes from Josh’s past posts—boasting about solving every casque—are quoted back at him with glee when his dig comes up empty.
🧠 Puzzle Debates & Map Wars
- Posters dive into the validity of Houston clues, debating whether the casque could be in the Children’s Zoo or by the obelisk.
- MrBackstop contributes a thoughtful interpretation of the image symbolism with Miller Hill and zoo architecture.
- The location of old vs. current train tracks, fountains, and bridges becomes a key sticking point.
🎯 Final Thoughts
In the end, this thread is part adventure log, part intervention. While Josh’s bravado frustrates many, it also sparks real-time investigation, collaborative mapping, and even a few laughs. His trip becomes a reminder that in The Secret, the hunt is half the fun—whether or not you walk away with a casque.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
looking for a ride from houston to new orleans
Laissez les bon temps rouler.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
where you at Erpobdelliforme!?
Fifteen hundred miles away, unfortunately. But I'm rooting for you man. Good luck.
strike13
JoshCornell1 wrote::
ok guys, im in houston and its wet as f***. still gonna go to hermann though waiting for bus at airport. will be in hermann in an hour or 2 if youd like to meet where the 982 used to sit (lykes grove)!!!
dont let it rain on your parade
WhiteRabbit
Post up some pics Josh, and good luck!
burnstyle
Fenix wrote::
This...preferably a photo of the guy from the youtube videos in NOLA or Houston.
He asked me to meet him in St. Aug and show him around downtown.
I said I would, so we will see.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
Looking forward to what your excuse will be when you don't find it.
That's because you are a curmudgeon, Seabass. Me, I'm rooting for the kid and I hope he finds what he's looking for.
MrBackstop
Atta boy Josh, Go get it!
WhiteRabbit
Goldengate wrote::
That said, Josh deserves poops for getting his boots on the ground
FTFY
karleen
Goldengate wrote::
I wish Josh luck on his quest to dig up the casques -- wait... who am I kidding, Josh doesn't need luck... he's already declared to have conclusively "solved" every casque location while belittling and insulting so many in this forum while on his victory march. Digging them up is merely a formality -- what could possibly go wrong?!
That said, Josh deserves props for getting his boots on the ground. For his sake, I hope he finds some success on this expedition... and if not a casque, perhaps he'll discover some humility and respect toward others along the way.
.
Word
strike13
JoshCornell1 wrote::
theres a worker sitting in his truck RIGHT BY THE FUCKING TREASURE LMAO...f**k. and i have to leave tn. currently at museum, gonna go back when its dark. checking out the egyptian exhibit in the fortress north cold as glass.
It's almost dark anyway. We are waiting Josh
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
theres a worker sitting in his truck RIGHT BY THE FUCKING TREASURE LMAO...f**k. and i have to leave tn. currently at museum, gonna go back when its dark. checking out the egyptian exhibit in the fortress north cold as glass.
ooo cool post pictures of the exhibit. I love Egyptian stuff.
darkplacehospital
JoshCornell1 wrote::
i found the exact camel thats on the pillar in the museum.
Oh cool. Post a pic so we can all see it.
darkplacehospital
maltedfalcon wrote::
Here!
Wow that's spot on. This is officially solved.
gManTexas
maltedfalcon wrote::
Here!
No filter, lol.
karleen
Aren't you filming your documentary? I'm sure you have loads of clips to share.
strike13
karleen wrote::
Aren't you filming your documentary? I'm sure you have loads of clips to share.
Sun is almost setting there Josh...are you ready? Shouldn't be too long now. Throw us a bone though to show us you're really there...
gManTexas
JoshCornell1 wrote::
already dug 2 3 foot holes and im SO BEAT.
here's the thing...neither were my first choice...where i BELIEVE it is...has had sprinklers laid down, but they arent deep...what youll have to do is dig on an angle...im not sure i have the energy...im dirty as f**k...my shovel handle broke lmao (thats what you get for buying a shovel for 1.40 haha)...and i havent eaten and i have to catch a bus to NO at 12. i shouldve given myself an extra day here, but im not sure it would have made a difference...also, looks like someone has already dug 4 giant holes very close to where i think it is...and there may have potentially been trees there at the time...its REALLY hard to judge, because the trees are so small and look like they mustnt have been there since 81. i really do think that is the spot. it lines up with the miller outdoor stadium and the OLD site of the fountain.
Did you take any photos so people can know where to dig and not dig?
BINGO
Didn’t Egbert dug for 5 hours and only took a break to drink a soda? Refusing help the whole time...
You must not want it enough.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
already dug 2 3 foot holes i really do think that is the spot. it lines up with the miller outdoor stadium and the OLD site of the fountain.
No worries, 2 3 foot holes filled in will still stand out like a sore thumb. Since it was probably too dark for photos, we'll just get one of the people who live in Houston to run by and snap a couple tomorrow.
so two hole on the line between miller outdoor stadium and the OLD site of the fountain
But Good Job elminating those spots!
BINGO
When the tour goes through Boston, just point to the spot and I’ll dig all day for you. Can’t go home tired and empty handed.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
here is full undisputable solve...
Awesome! Great work !
oh just one little thing that bothers me...
The route of the train accross the island there.
It was different in 1982, it would have been about 50 feet south of you
it went accross the bottom of the island, which wasn't even an island then.
BINGO
maltedfalcon wrote::
oh just one little thing that bothers me...
The route of the train accross the island there.
It was different in 1982, it would have been about 50 feet south of you
it went accross the bottom of the island, which wasn't even an island then.
strike13
Goldengate wrote::
I thought many here would enjoy these few Josh Cornell “gems” we’ve endured over the past few months… followed by the expected result of today’s big inaugural dig:
BEFORE TODAY:
"I know where all 10 of the treasures that have yet to be found are precisely located down to, in most cases, a 1x1 ft square."
"I will never have to use GPR, and i will require nothing more than a trowel and gloves. Even then the gloves are optional."
"I am planning a trip to 9 of the locations, and will announce exactly when i will be digging these treasures up once and for all, so that everyone can come and watch and join in."
"After digging up each treasure, I will take all interested parties through a complete walkthrough of the puzzles...and will be shooting footage for a documentary to honour Preiss and the Hunt."
"its not rocket science. its very logical. and very clear."
"wtf...the location is not right in front of the zoo its like 10 20 steps w of lykes grove...wtf are you on?"
"I literally cannot baby you anymore closer to the location, less I take your hand and walk you there lol…"
"he better get on em quick cause within 1 month I will be digging up the casques at each location I have already solved.”
"waa waa you mad I solved most of the puzzles in a week? HA. don't be mad. be blown away!"
there is a reason I'm really good at this...its because i right essays on symbolism in cinema...
"probably flying into Houston mid feb, gonna go to Houston first. then around through roanoke. hitting each spot and digging up all the treasures along the way.”
“I will be keeping casques i retrieve for a period, then donating them back to the city they were found”
"the puzzle points you to that exact location…"
"what you gonna say when I shut you up, eh?"
"come out today...im gonna dig it up, we'll be cool.”
TODAY:
“...here’s the thing…”
Makes zero sense to travel internationally and to still be in the city and in the precise location where you think it is, and to not be doing everything you can to get it. It isn't even late there, and it is certainly not cold out Get a coffee and a new shovel. And now to take the solve down? Por que?
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
oh I'm crazy. like mentally
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=737&p=134568&hilit=+crazy#p134568
Carry on.
burnstyle
Does this mean I don't need to drive Josh around St. Augustine this weekend?
Because I am totally willing to take one for the team.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
.my shovel handle broke lmao (thats what you get for buying a shovel for 1.40 haha)
this set is on sale at walmart for $2.99 but you get 4 tools.
burnstyle
Josh I'm going to make a deal with you. If you are coming to st Augustine this weekend like you said you are I will meet up with you like you asked and at least vouch for the fact that you are traveling and trying.
That might lessen the shit you are taking.
If you just come and dig I will 100% come behind you and check to see if your holes exist.
And I can all but guarantee you someone is going to do that in every city where you claim to dig.
Just know that before you go further.
karleen
burnstyle wrote::
Does this mean I don't need to drive Josh around St. Augustine this weekend?
Because I am totally willing to take one for the team.
I could tag along...I have four cameras-- one with amazing night vision--it would be nice to have extra footage for the documentary. And witnesses. Don't forget the witnesses.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
solve
HOUSTON
JoshCornell1 wrote::
"In the sky the water veers"
- we will need to pay attention to the water spout in Lake McGovern
"Looking back from treasure ground"
- from the position of the precise location of the treasure...
"There's the spout!"
- from the precise location of the treasure, our alignments will still be visibe
Awesome! Sure no problem it was a simple mistake, no worries, I make them all the time....
Glad your back! Did you catch your flight? Good!
I'm rooting for you! I want these casques found!
Umm just one little question....
What did we use before 2010 when they put the fountain in?
Just to be clear though, you know it floats and moves around right?
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
hermann park is NOTHING like it used to be. i did mess that up by making the mistake of clicking on bird island vs being brought to streetview across the way. i shouldve def realized that...but the solve is pretty damn correct...just all the slight trees are either no longer slight and/or more likely gone and replaced.
and that pesky fountain thing.
WhiteRabbit
...whatever...I don't think anyone is going to believe you went anywhere near the park without a photo.
WhiteRabbit
JoshCornell1 wrote::
and i dont really care...
Really? You care enough to post pages and pages of unsubstantiated garbage.
If you post any pics during your continued journey, you'll earn plenty of respect. Otherwise it's all timewasting and fantasy.
Doghousereiley
Josh contacted me a week ago about meeting him on feb 13 in Houston
I am freelance camera operator and had a gig that day. I can't turn down work
so we planned on meeting about 9 or 10 am on feb 14
I texted Josh early in the day twice with no response
About 3 or 4 pm I got a message on the board that he was at the Museum across the street from Herman Park and if I could meet I'm later
I was way north at the time and had to pick up my cousin at the airport at 5 and then to plans the night of feb 14
During this time I missed a call from someone with a Canada (Ontario) number
I suggested via Q4T message let us try feb 15
I did not see Josh Cornell in Houston but we did try to coordinate
I never volunteered to dig. Josh asked to borrow a shovel. I told him I don't have one or use one
I only volunteered to hold a camera and film while he dug. He did say he only needed a trowel and gloves (optional)
I did not want to steal his thunder
Josh
Good Luck in New Orleans
Doghousereiley
I don't see how the casque could be on Bird island if you follow the clues
Bird island was outside of the old 1982 train tracks
Josh
at what point do you step over small of scale (the train tracks) unlesss you step over it 3 or four times going counter clock wise around the lake
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
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i didnt mess up the fountain location...
of course not, I wasn't questioning it's location, I was questioning it being there in 1982
You are really good at figuring these out if you can plot a location with a non-existent reference point.
Also I was thinking you should call the parks department there and report that guy in the truck
cause obviously he drove over an arched wooden pedestrian only bridge to get to the island, his truck might have damaged that bridge!
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
i think its def in the last location i sited....it fits all the clues the best.
What about the clue where BP inferred it was in the Children's zoo?
Doghousereiley
what clue inferred the children's zoo
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
where the hell is that? when did he say that? can you post the reference...?
I am not going to do your research for you but here is just one thread talking about it... You might have to read other stuff than the wiki...
Re: NRHP Theory
... but not likely all. BP confirmed that one casque was in the Childrens' Zoo at Hermann Park in Houston -- and a quick glance at the list turns up nothing for that ...
by bigmattyh
Wed Aug 15, 2007 1:09 pm
Forum: The Secret
Topic: NRHP Theory
Replies: 2
Views: 134
WhiteRabbit
Unknown:
"Very impressive work esp since Josh is 20 years old. All I can say is that travelling to these cities would not be a waste of time. But post some pics pls."
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
this doesnt seem legit to me. where is the proof? where is the actual statement?
Ok that's Ironic...
look up to your right there is a button labled search... I will lead you amazing places...
Doghousereiley
if you are referring to the Wilhouse plea email of "it would not be a waste of time to dig there, I can make no guarantees what so ever"
I feel there is debate as to whether BP was confirming the Children's Zoo. I don't think it is a confirmer
My opinion is at the time of Wilhosue email, Bryon Priess did not remember where he buried all the casques and was unable to provide an informed reply.
BP could have just said "It would not be a waste of time to dig there". and stop. In my opinion he did not remember so he added the" No guarantees what so ever" comment
Falcon. is there something I missed?
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
you said it was off the wiki, no?
no pretty much what I said was it wasn't on the wiki
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
i honestly never even considered that...because...i negate everything that fits certain criteria...which it fits...
That explains your remarkable track record
meatypuffs
Doghousereiley wrote::
My opinion is at the time of Wilhosue email, Bryon Priess did not remember where he buried all the casques and was unable to provide an informed reply.
Did I somehow miss reading Preiss was suffering from Alzheimers, dementia, or other form of memory loss? Otherwise, how would someone forget 1) spending what is to be presumed several months or years of planning to determine burial sites, 2) having casques made unique to each of the puzzles, 3) obtaining the jewels for prizes, 4) creating cryptic verses, 5) traveling to each of these cities 6) digging in a specific location (probably in the cover of night and cautious not to be seen), 7) apparently taking several photographs of items in the city and the dig site,
and then working with an artist to create the Images with all sorts of hidden symbols and images from those very same photos?
maltedfalcon
Doghousereiley wrote::
I feel there is debate as to whether BP was confirming the Children's Zoo.
Yes but all that debate is by the people after the fact who don't want to face the fact this one is gone.
Doghousereiley
meaty puffs
listen to the recent podcast or read Cleveland thread
Brian Zinn details his meeting with Priess. Two examples that lead me to this conclusion. He forgot where he put the solutions. He forget he had 25 grand in savings bonds
Falcon I admit I am one how want to believe it was not in the Children's Zoo as I still dig in Herman park
I also believe if it was in the Children's Zoo then Wilhouse would have found it
He had almost unrestricted access and digging tools and a whole construction crew looking for a plexiglass box with a ceramic box in it
as they worked
How could of wilhouse missed it?
maltedfalcon
Doghousereiley wrote::
meaty puffs
He had almost unrestricted access and digging tools and a whole construction crew looking for a plexiglass box with a ceramic box in it
as they worked
How could of wilhouse missed it?
Not my story to tell, but I would guess in a zoo like environment, between 1981 and 2004 a period of 23 years,
there might have been some construction, groundwork, paving, remodeling or even planting.
So in a small enclosed busy environment like that you tell me what are the odds of the casque simply surviving.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
Yes but all that debate is by the people after the
fact
who don't want to face the fact this one is gone.
What is the fact in question? There is nothing dispositive about Preiss' statement to Wilhouse, which is what bigmattyh is referencing. And there are and plenty of reasons to believe that while he (BP) may have been telling the truth, he (BP) wasn't telling the whole truth. Preiss did not say it was in the Children's Zoo in Houston. Wilhouse found nothing in the Children's Zoo in Houston, despite tearing it up with a backhoe. And perhaps most importantly, the "solve" has holes you can drive a truck through, including no reasonable explanation for "in the middle of four alike". So absent more compelling information, the "fact" that this one is gone because it was in the CZ is really nothing more than an opinion.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
So in a small enclosed busy environment like that you tell me what are the odds of the casque simply surviving.
About the same as if it was in a small planter in Cleveland would be my guess. With all due respect to everyone involved, this is just another tired version of "I did not find it where I know it should be, so it must be gone".
maltedfalcon
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
the "fact" that this one is gone because it was in the CZ is really nothing more than an opinion.
Yes indeed! that was my opinion as are every other thought about the solves for this hunt. Mine and all others aren't worth anything until someone finds a casque.
But we still come back to the one fact we can point to about this casque. And that is simply
When BP was asked about the Children's Zoo he said: "It would not be a waste of time to dig there."
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
he said: "It would not be a waste of time to dig there."
"But I make no guarantees whatsoever." I've dug a lot of holes Matt, and so have you. How many have been a "waste of time'?
maltedfalcon
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
"But I make no guarantees whatsoever." I've dug a lot of holes Matt, and so have you. How many have been a "waste of time'?
You know what? I stand corrected. not one was a waste of time, Anyway I am out of my depth with Houston, Not at all my area of expertise. I just knew they moved the mini train and the Fountain. it was kind of obvious, Josh's "solve" didnt work at all.
I will return my regular channel now...
Hirudiniforme
Fenix wrote::
Greenery With Envy
Greenery! That's me!!!!
What are you implying I am envious of? This?
Nah, bro. I got my own ideas. You'll probably hear about some of them in the coming months. Perhaps sooner.
strike13
JoshCornell1 wrote::
what part of im waiting to ask and get more info/permission...dont you get?
Sometimes it can take weeks for permission to be granted, esp when a city is in the throws of a major annual celebration. You arent getting any permission this week, guaranteed.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
not one was a waste of time,
Exactly. Whether we are digging in Houston or any other city, the only way to KNOW you are right is to identify a spot, dig a hole, and find a casque (or the remains of one). It's as true now as it was when the book was published in 1982. The best "solutions", whether they are verse-based, image-based, or some combination of the two are a distant second to that if they produce an empty hole (or no response from Preiss back when you could submit a solution by mail). But with Preiss having given up on the puzzle, empty holes were the only way to advance or abandon a theory with confidence. I'm not saying that is what Preiss meant when he told Wilhouse that digging in the CZ "would not be a waste of time", but I would not rule it out either. When it came to this puzzle, the rules were clearly written, but the man spoke in riddles.
JamesV
Goldengate wrote::
He won't to find any casques, but maybe along the way, he'll find himself.
Consider this line stolen...
gManTexas
Dear All,
I hope you see that this is classic trolling, but also fishing. Everyone is getting worked up and giving away answers and clues. Due to the lack of photographic evidence of Josh actually being in any of these locations, while making a documentary, leads me to believe that he is sitting at his computer getting not only a laugh, but information the easy way. My advice is to stop feeding the trolls.
gManTexas
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
this is classic trolling, but also fishing.
Unknown:
Everyone is getting worked up
Unknown:
and giving away answers and clues
I don't think this is true.
This, on the other hand, is most certainly true.
Well, we wouldn't want that, now would we? Whatever would they then have to talk about on the Podcast?
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
im content with solving the puzzles...knowing some spots have been disturbed and/or clues have been lost and unretrievable over time.
Man, this sounds so familiar. I just can't place where I've heard it before.
Thinking...
Thinking...
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
not one person out here is doing what im doing. not one.
Almost everyone is doing what you are doing Josh, minus the flights of fancy. Although you aren't the first one to do that either.
Goonie68
I guess my confirmation on a dig in SF tomorrow is not doing anything???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39394876005/in/dateposted-public/
and this is a well planned dig.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
I guess my confirmation on a dig in SF tomorrow is not doing anything??
Post it on the San Francisco Facebook page. I'm sure you'll get a lot of love over there. Good luck with the dig.
gManTexas
Goonie68 wrote::
I guess my confirmation on a dig in SF tomorrow is not doing anything???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39394876005/in/dateposted-public/
and this is a well planned dig.
I find the no photo rule perplexing. Either way, good luck!
maltedfalcon
Goonie68 wrote::
I guess my confirmation on a dig in SF tomorrow is not doing anything???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39394876005/in/dateposted-public/
and this is a well planned dig.
super keep us posted
drunknerds
Goonie68 wrote::
I guess my confirmation on a dig in SF tomorrow is not doing anything???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39394876005/in/dateposted-public/
and this is a well planned dig.
I haven't seen you post a solve, sorry if I missed it. That's why saying "I am digging tomorrow in Shakespeare's Garden" isn't getting any response from me. The last I heard, you were working a solve that had "at stone wall's door the air smells sweet" as the senior center door, which is right by a dog training field and a bison paddock.
Best of luck with whatever solve you found, though!
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
heres the camel ya bums...
https://ibb.co/bFo8o7
JoshCornell1 wrote::
i found the exact camel thats on the pillar in the museum.
Seriously ? Mine was closer and it had a naked lady hidden in it!
"exact"
which might explain the success you are having finding casques.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
how do you think it is not it? that flabergasts me...lol. the whole painting has an egyptian theme...
no wonder youve never COMPLETELY SOLVED a puzzle, eh?
Well for starters we already know where the camel came from.
and
Actually I would say the theme is persian...
There are no Djinn's in Egyptian mythology nor rhinos, Hippos yes, rhinos no, A desert theme does not = Egyptian.
ooooo that stung... LOL course, I never claimed to have solved 1 much less 12...
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
obelisks are egyptian,
Yes they are! I agree 100% however there is not a single obelisk in the image.
nope not one,
You might look up the definition of obelisk and its defining characteristics
you might think the objects in the pictures are possibly even steallae
but they are what are called columns... Not really an Egyptian tie in...
BINGO
JoshCornell1 wrote::
obelisks are egyptian, hence the choice...combined with the fact that the museum has a permanent egyptian exhibit (with the actual camel)...and the angled stone which represents the simple surveying methods used by ancients you need to use to solve this puzzle and find the spot.
I don’t have the slightest clue about this particular location, nor do I pretend to. But, I would really love for you to expound on your simple surveying methods knowledge. I always enjoy learning more about my profession from experts.
Doghousereiley
Josh
I am in Hermann Park right now
I am looking for the holes you dug
I was going to take a photo and post it so people can see really evidence that you were there
Doghousereiley
I am not totally sure but I am kinda getting a vibe that MrSeabass does not you were really there
gManTexas
Doghousereiley wrote::
Josh
I am in Hermann Park right now
I am looking for the holes you dug
I was going to take a photo and post it so people can see really evidence that you were there
Maybe the holes were filled in neatly and the grass plugs replaced, because he cares a lot about the environment.
"Leave nothing but footprints"
MrBackstop
Josh, I take it you never read my thoughts on the main 3 columns. Here it is again:
The front column appears to represent the shape of the area around the Sam Houston statue and the reflection pool. This seems too simple but the thing that caught my attention was the bell shape at the bottom. Knowing that the columns are from the old stage at the Miller Outdoor theatre, I looked in some history and found that the theatre produced a free musical called "Bells are Ringing" and this free musical has been going on for years.
The Rhino column took me awhile to figure out, "why a rhino?" As I looked thru Miller Outdoor Theatre photos I came across one from the side at ground level and noticed how it looked like a Rhinoceros horn. Again, as you know, the Rhino head is on top of a column from the old theatre.
The Camel column was the hardest to figure out. I couldn't understand why that column didn't have a shadow. (Just like the palm tree....ravelin, in Image 6). Once I heard about Miller hill being built from dirt from the park to form the amphitheater I realized why. The camel hump is Miller Hill so there would be no shadow.
I also believe the columns in the background represent the columns in the Mecom-Rockwell Colonnade.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
there is an obelisk at hermann park
yes there is, and no connection at all to the painting or verse
erexere
MrBackstop, thanks for adding substance to our collective knowledge. I didn't know about the rhino column. I like the idea of camel [hump] = Miller Hill. Thatr same kind of logic has me wondering if the rhino [horn] is the pointy tip of the MOT.
I disagree about the large ball and column being identified with the Sam Houston / reflection pool shape in aerial. Seems more a coincidence. I don't have any alternative evidence to go on, it's just my gut feeling.
maltedfalcon
MrBackstop wrote::
the Rhino head is on top of a column from the old theatre.
You mean the Rhino on top the column that was from the front of the zoo?
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
keep trying malted... XD
You too! I am just trying to grasp how you can be so wrong to miss (even according to your logic) on the wrong side of the lake... Then still be right all along, and then end up with a solution that was posted on the wiki years ago and investigated years ago. But I stand in awe of how you can dig holes (even in the wrong place) with a $1.40 shovel and leave absolutely no scar on the soil...
Then it occured to me you are so bad at reading a map, you must have dug your holes in the wrong place...
MrBackstop
erexere wrote::
MrBackstop, thanks for adding substance to our collective knowledge. I didn't know about the rhino column. I like the idea of camel [hump] = Miller Hill. Thatr same kind of logic has me wondering if the rhino [horn] is the pointy tip of the MOT.
I disagree about the large ball and column being identified with the Sam Houston / reflection pool shape in aerial. Seems more a coincidence. I don't have any alternative evidence to go on, it's just my gut feeling.
Actually I just thought the shape of the layout from Sam to the Obelisk was too easy. I actually think the globe is the opening at the top of the Mecom-Rockwell Colonnade. And I also believe Sam wasn't left out of the puzzle. He is the spout in the verse, There's the spout!
MrBackstop
maltedfalcon wrote::
You mean the Rhino on top the column that was from the front of the zoo?
Perhaps, but I'm not looking at the zoo at all in my solve. I think it was how BP envisioned the Miller Outdoor Theatre...as looking like a Rhinoceros from the side.
fox
I'm still waiting for pictures of your quest. A person allegedly filming a documentary would also take lots of photos. I'm not even sure you actually live in Canada Josh but what I am sure of is that you are not in any of these cities you claim to be digging in. You sir are pathetic. Do you really need this attention to feel better? All we heard about for weeks was that the almighty Josh has solved every one of the remaining sites. We then heard all about how sorry we would all be WHEN you travel from city to city digging up these casques that we were all to stupid to figure out. Now you claim to have been in Houston but lo and behold......nary a casque but an abundance of excuses. For arguments sake.....let's suppose you actually were in Houston to search. Now that you came up empty handed perhaps you are just like the rest of us....too stupid to figure these out.
I'm sure you'll never post a picture of a casque you've found because I honestly don't think you have any earthly clue where they are. I'm also fairly certain that you won't even post a pic showing that you are in a casque city because I think you are still at home in you're mom's basement. Thanks for the entertainment though.... lol
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
im the only one accounting for all the clues and solving the puzzles how they were designed...
everyone else is trying to guess the location via random f**king clues...its literally mental you think im so damn wrong when ive explained more than any single person has.
You keep parroting that with nothing to show. You've now allegedly been to 2 cities but all we hear are excuses. You haven't solved anything. You keep fishing for clues from other players who thankfully are smart enough to give you anything. Give me your Twain theory and I'll share one of the many things only I have figured out. Is that how it works for you? Laughable.
I'm sure I speak for the masses by saying either put up or shut up. Show us a casque or tell us your high and mighty solve since the casque is unobtainable. I'm sure you can nor will do either.
Doghousereiley
fox wrote::
I'm sure I speak for the masses by saying either put up or shut up. Show us a casque or tell us your high and mighty solve since the casque is unobtainable. I'm sure you can nor will do either.
Josh I am with Fox
I do not believe you are anywhere near any casques and that you are a complete liar
maltedfalcon
Doghousereiley wrote::
Josh I am with Fox
I do not believe you are anywhere near any casques and that you are a complete liar
Josh, I believe you are currently in New Orleans and just came from Houston. I am quite jealous of your trip being on the ground in multiple cities. What I am sad about is the way you just recycle ideas off the wiki as your own and then fill in with off the cuff bullshit.
You know if you had just done it all the same and phrased your posts a bit different everybody on this board would A: Be cheering for you and B: helping in all kinds of ways.
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
*yawn*
The results of Josh's absolutely, definitely, perfectly, predetermined, solves so far ....
Doghousereiley
there is no doubt
you said you were gonna pull a casque out of the ground in Houston
You failed
It is proven. you were beat
Josh Cornell 0. Priess 1
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
your doubt is meaningless to me when i know im right.
What happens when we ALL know that we are right but don't have casque to show for it?
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
you will know when youre right...you will have accounted for every single clue and its various layers...
And when that happens I;
(a) physically dig up a casque
(b) have someone who is nearer than I dig up the casque
(c) happily share my entire solve to aid in both (a) and (b) above or in the event that the casque is actually unobtainable.
fox
JoshCornell1 wrote::
anyone who meets me will know everything.
the method. the extra secrets. the solve.
didnt Dog try to meet you? didn't dambala try to meet you? Hopefully burnstyle will actually meet you.
Doghousereiley
you called twice in a 2 minute span of time
so yes multiple times
Doghousereiley
tell me the spot and I will go with a probe today
it is a beautiful day
is it the same as the wiki site. form your forum post it seems so
please be very articulate or provide specific spot
I am trying to help you redeem your crown
Doghousereiley
the obelisk has four sides
I could face any one of them
is the lake at my back. or is the reflecting pool at my back
maltedfalcon
JoshCornell1 wrote::
go to the obelisk. face it. turn right. follow tracks into woods. its to left of first bend in track. theres a sewer there. i dug around the sewer a bit...you might be able to see it.
So here *x-marks the spot"
In this wide open sewer free area...?
Doghousereiley
your first solution was on the southwest corner of lake. an area you called likes grove
now you say casque is buried on the northeast corner of lake
got it
I will check it out
fox
Doghousereiley wrote::
your first solution was on the southwest corner of lake. an area you called likes grove
now you say casque is buried on the northeast corner of lake
got it
I will check it out
Josh, your 1x1 grids keep getting larger and larger. Why don't you just say your 100% correct solve is somewhere in the vicinity of Hermann Park?
Doghousereiley
JoshCornell1 wrote::
when probing near the sewer, make sure you give yourself a few inches of space, cause cement juts out close to it...thats how i broke my shovel lol
Thank you
I am not worried I use really digging tools that don't break.
Doghousereiley
Josh
Is your current solution based on the current placement of the train tracks?
I am not even sure your X is within the old train loop.
The tracks are different location than they were In 1982
The train station approach were track curved was much more south than your spot
Your X is place on the tracks were there was a straight run gong east to west
and I am not sure your X is even within the old boundaries of the train loop
if so then just barely
If your solution is based on curves in old train track then you need to re calculate
Doghousereiley
the obelisk was moved to the south about 20 ft
and the railroad was moved 10 ft north so now the train runs right past the obelisk
I have uploaded a new video with a wider view of Herman park
I also tried to draw in the old train route so you can see what was in the old smaller train loop. Obviously I am not good at photoshop
https://youtu.be/GmGxyZTlwBY
fox
with post after post after post?
erexere
He's falling down a long stairway or rolling down a big hill with his phone in hand?