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The forum thread begins with discussions about a problematic user's departure and the community's efforts to work together positively. Captain Mike shares a verse from a book, sparking interest but not direct progress. Users delve into historical references related to the verse and speculate about reassigning threads and potential hidden clues. The conversation shifts to analyzing riddle techniques in verses related to treasure hunts, encoding clues through wordplay tricks, and the author Belle Walker Cooke's significance. The discussion also involves accusations and defenses regarding the search for a casque, highlighting skepticism and a lack of evidence to support claims. An argument escalates between users about a mystery in NYC, with accusations, insults, and challenges exchanged. The forum then focuses on the number of blocks in the French Quarter and Business Districts of New Orleans, initially debating between 22 and 21 blocks, eventually clarifying the correct count of 21 blocks with specific counting instructions provided by users like Doghousereiley and Erpobdelliforme. Mindydaile questions the choice of an arbitrary starting point for counting due to streets that only run for a few blocks.

Howardjthomas

Is he gone for good!


Macfos

Appears as such... along with all of his inappropriate posts. Lets get back to working together to solve these things. Regards, Mac


Captain Mike

In the spirit of working together, I found this verse in a book (on the internet) called tears and victory (1871) And a trailing vine is a fairy bower, With jewels hung for the fay's delight It doesn't help us get any closer but it's interesting.


gManTexas

Captain Mike wrote:: In the spirit of working together, I found this verse in a book (on the internet) called tears and victory (1871) And a trailing vine is a fairy bower, With jewels hung for the fay's delight It doesn't help us get any closer but it's interesting. Author??


Howardjthomas

Macfos wrote:: Appears as such... along with all of his inappropriate posts. Lets get back to working together to solve these things. Regards, Mac It was fun till the creepy things he told you. Here's to working together productively with open minds. "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Thomas Jefferson


NYCNative

Goldengate wrote:: After the aggressive and anatomically graphic comment we were subjected to earlier today, Mark Parry mercifully put an end to the madness. In Mark’s words: “He’s toast.” Let’s all work together — I’m cheering for everyone and am happy to help anyway I can (though I’m probably useless at everything but San Francisco)! Thank you, Mark! Onward!


karleen

All hail, Mark! I'll be so glad to learn what this is forum is like sans-JC.


Captain Mike

G-man the author is Belle Walker Cooke


BINGO

The board looks a bit odd now that the threads that he started have been reassigned to maltedfalcon, Fox, etc. Troublemakers...


Mister EZ

Captain Mike wrote:: In the spirit of working together, I found this verse in a book (on the internet) called tears and victory (1871) And a trailing vine is a fairy bower, With jewels hung for the fay's delight It doesn't help us get any closer but it's interesting. Ya, that is interesting. 1871....three years before the death of Baroness Pontalba. The Pontalba Buildings are the row houses that line either side of Jackson Square in New Orleans. Maybe that points to verse two as a match? (Yeah...that's probably a stretch. But, maybe....?)


erexere

Uh oh. Who's next in the chopping block?


Howardjthomas

BINGO wrote:: The board looks a bit odd now that the threads that he started have been reassigned to maltedfalcon, Fox, etc. Troublemakers... Fox Malted stop marking so many new threads Gees y'all are the Vets


Mister EZ

So, that's a book of poems...page 207: https://archive.org/stream/tearsvictoryothe00cook#page/207/mode/1up/search/delight


Captain Mike

I'm very new to this everyone so please bare with me.... I have searched the site and haven't come across a post with this thought process regarding the verse In the middle of twenty-one from end to end could twenty-one actually be 20-1 equaling 19???? which is in the top left corner of the clock??


treetops

Captain Mike: It's not a bad thought, as far as possible techniques for encoding clues in the verses. I'd classify this as being in the same category of wordplay tricks as, for instance, "First of August" meaning the letter "A". These did turn up in the diversionary riddles in Masquerade, but I don't recall seeing much evidence of their use in The Secret, and I don't believe anything like this has been discovered in the two image/verse pairings where the treasure has actually been recovered. It would open up many new avenues if we were to read the verses in this light. This does make me think that it might be useful to put together a sort of index of riddle techniques, with notes on which ones have and have not been identified in the twelve verses. For example, we definitely have using the initial letter of a proper noun to stand for that noun (M and B are set in stone), but do don't yet have a proper noun being used to represent its initial letter only (e.g. Xenophon just meaning the letter X).


drunknerds

treetops wrote:: Captain Mike: It's not a bad thought, as far as possible techniques for encoding clues in the verses. I'd classify this as being in the same category of wordplay tricks as, for instance, "First of August" meaning the letter "A". These did turn up in the diversionary riddles in Masquerade, but I don't recall seeing much evidence of their use in The Secret, and I don't believe anything like this has been discovered in the two image/verse pairings where the treasure has actually been recovered. It would open up many new avenues if we were to read the verses in this light. Timeline matches up with that: In 1981 nobody knew the solution to MAsquerade, but a lot of the diversionary stuff was being circulated


gManTexas

Captain Mike wrote:: G-man the author is Belle Walker Cooke Thanks. I'll have to tear into that. As an aside, she died Jan 19, 1919. Lots of 19s.


fox

Howardjthomas wrote:: Fox Malted stop marking so many new threads Gees y'all are the Vets There are some new sheriffs in town folks......look out. What should we do next Vets?


Erpobdelliforme

Unknown: What should we do next Vets? How about dig up another casque?


karleen

erexere wrote:: Uh oh. Who's next in the chopping block? Well, it better be borntalent because that is also Josh Cornell.


NYCNative

karleen wrote:: Well, it better be borntalent because that is also Josh Cornell.


drunknerds

erexere wrote:: Uh oh. Who's next in the chopping block? Me. Go on, politely ask me to turn down the antagonism a notch, I dare you.


anus905

yikes. seen this guy on fb. he definitely seemed to know what he was talking about. no wonder none of you have found anything in 16 plus years haha. wow. just wow.


WhiteRabbit

Hey, welcome back dude.


borntalent

karleen wrote:: Well, it better be borntalent because that is also Josh Cornell. Karleen: I am "Josh" because I said that I found the casque? You people on here need to get over yourselves. Everytime someone claims to have found or solved something, you jump on them. OH and dont be mad because you kept PMing me weeks ago asking me where the casque was, and I did not tell you. I think its quite obvious I am not Josh, because we went back and forth on a post when I first signed up. Also if you dont know how to use Google to search before making an accusation, i can see why you have such difficulty solving a complex puzzle.


drunknerds

Lol, Karleen has been super nice to almost everyone on here.


karleen

drunknerds wrote:: Lol, Karleen has been super nice to almost everyone on here. Thank you, drunknerds. I agree!


NYCNative

borntalent wrote:: Karleen: I am "Josh" because I said that I found the casque? You people on here need to get over yourselves. Everytime someone claims to have found or solved something, you jump on them. OH and dont be mad because you kept PMing me weeks ago asking me where the casque was, and I did not tell you. I think its quite obvious I am not Josh, because we went back and forth on a post when I first signed up. Also if you dont know how to use Google to search before making an accusation, i can see why you have such difficulty solving a complex puzzle. I can see why someone would get you confused with him. You are both arrogant, bitter, confused and seeking attention by making posts claiming you found the casque, only to come back next week with more trolling. I see why you have so much difficulty getting along with other people, you stink of insecurity. How pathetic can you be to post that you solved it, or found partial casques, then follow it up with nothing, hoping someone will reply back so that you can feel like someone acknowledges that you even exist. You are obviously not looking for a casque, you are looking for a friend. Shame we got your buddy banned, but the forum has improved greatly from it. ...and you Vs Karleen!? Karleen wins every time, in every category! Now, back to work!


borntalent

NYCNAIVE: (take the "T" out of your name...and it fits you perfectly): What are 16 years old? Grow the f**k up. Maybe you need to backtrack and check your FACTS of what I came on here posting. You are INSECURE and it's clear as day. Anytime someone comes on this forum claiming to have a solve or an idea (which is a large percentage of people), you start bashing them because you have been stuck on stupid for years. I've seen your type before on these forums. When someone solves something they are "arrogant"....when someone is proven to be right, than let me guess, its "oh, you have an ego and always think you are right"... YAWNNN I simply shared info at first... and you ran your mouth. I then came on another post and provided FACTUAL INFORMATION to HELP you guys by telling you that there is laws when it comes to digging near trees, and again.... you ran your mouth for NO REASON!!! After all your mouth running when I was trying to help... THEN I am going to defend myself and be arrogant when you tried to diss me about me "not finding anything". SO now that thats all been said... I DID FIND IT... so suck on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you put your money where your mouth is since you want to run it. I want you to eat crow. I SOLVED NYC... DEAL WITH IT... I found the location with the CONFORMATION clue same way the other solves were found....DEAL WITH IT... and best of all.. dug up REMAINS .. and if it wasn't for police presence.., i could have gotten it all. FOR your info... I contacted Josh Gates and his show about my find, in hopes they they might have a better way to get the rest of the remains , and am currently awaiting word back. DEAL WITH IT!!


drunknerds

SAD!!


BINGO

Pictures or it didn’t happen...


NYCNative

borntalent wrote:: NYCNAIVE: (take the "T" out of your name...and it fits you perfectly): What are 16 years old? Grow the f**k up. Maybe you need to backtrack and check your FACTS of what I came on here posting. You are INSECURE and it's clear as day. Anytime someone comes on this forum claiming to have a solve or an idea (which is a large percentage of people), you start bashing them because you have been stuck on stupid for years. I've seen your type before on these forums. When someone solves something they are "arrogant"....when someone is proven to be right, than let me guess, its "oh, you have an ego and always think you are right"... YAWNNN I simply shared info at first... and you ran your mouth. I then came on another post and provided FACTUAL INFORMATION to HELP you guys by telling you that there is laws when it comes to digging near trees, and again.... you ran your mouth for NO REASON!!! After all your mouth running when I was trying to help... THEN I am going to defend myself and be arrogant when you tried to diss me about me "not finding anything". SO now that thats all been said... I DID FIND IT... so suck on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you put your money where your mouth is since you want to run it. I want you to eat crow. I SOLVED NYC... DEAL WITH IT... I found the location with the CONFORMATION clue same way the other solves were found....DEAL WITH IT... and best of all.. dug up REMAINS .. and if it wasn't for police presence.., i could have gotten it all. FOR your info... I contacted Josh Gates and his show about my find, in hopes they they might have a better way to get the rest of the remains , and am currently awaiting word back. DEAL WITH IT!! Sounds like you have a ton of excuses, no proof, no facts, no pictures. If police was really the issue, you could of gone back later or just requested a permit. You took a theory off of wiki (of all places!) and claimed it as your own. your story and your logic are full of more holes then golden gate park! Your post sounds like someone crying for attention. One has to ask, if you solved and found the casque, why are you posting bitter replies on a forum? I hope josh Gates gets back to you, but for now, you can do what you do best, and sit on your ass and wait for someone to validate your existence as a productive member of society! TREE LIVES MATTER!


borntalent

Jealous sucker??? hahahahaha Looks like the only one crying for attention is you... looks like the only bitter one is you.. all we have to do is look at your history of posts. hahahahah DEAL WITH IT!!! Maybe you should learn to read ... or are you just that slow?? Every question and point you try to make has already been answered, and so has every lame assumption. I just told you why you cant go get a permit.. are you dense?? YOU CAN NOT GET A PERMIT FOR ANY DIGGING WITHIN 10FT OF A TREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Durrrrrr I took no theory from some "wiki"... hahahaha How may stories you got? First you claimed I was in Central park, then at a HS... any other made up stories you want to assign for me? Keep digging yourself a deeper hole (PUN intended). If I wanted validation from your dumb ass I would post pics and shut you up... but NAHHHH... I go for bigger fish.. and let you keep digging that hole.


gManTexas

You guys need a bro date. PM each other and work it out, or agree to disagree. Tit for tat is not productive.


fox

NYCNative wrote:: Sounds like you have a ton of excuses, no proof, no facts, no pictures. If police was really the issue, you could of gone back later or just requested a permit. You took a theory off of wiki (of all places!) and claimed it as your own. your story and your logic are full of more holes then golden gate park! Your post sounds like someone crying for attention. One has to ask, if you solved and found the casque, why are you posting bitter replies on a forum? I hope josh Gates gets back to you, but for now, you can do what you do best, and sit on your ass and wait for someone to validate your existence as a productive member of society! TREE LIVES MATTER! Also sounds just like Mr. Cornell


anus905

figured id revive this for easter... in the middle of twenty two from end to end represents the number of blocks in the french quarter and business districts of new orleans. you would have known that if they didnt delete it multiple times...lol.


Doghousereiley

I think you mean "in the middle of Twenty ONE from end to end"


Erpobdelliforme

Unknown: in the middle of Twenty ONE "Two twenty, two twenty-one. Whatever it takes."


Doghousereiley

Erpobdelliforme wrote:: "Two twenty, two twenty-one. Whatever it takes."


anus905

yea 21. not sure why i wrote that. still thats how many blocks there are bw the 2 subs.


mindydaile

anus905 wrote:: yea 21. not sure why i wrote that. still thats how many blocks there are bw the 2 subs. Given the number of streets in the FQ and CBD that on run for a few blocks (not the whole stretch) did you just pick an arbitrary point to count?


anus905

nope it tells you where to count...