Just to respond - - a reference to NYC in general, in that it is directly South of Grey Peak in the Adirondack Mountains There is a Gray Mountain, there is not a Grey Peak ,see your previous post where BP doesn't make mistakes. "That extends over the narrow path" The statues arm is raised and does not extend over . rehash- rehash - does not mean it's not correct just not original. - thus, this is a cunning attempt by Preiss to take you from the correct location (we are already in) and misdirect you towards central park! So him of hard words, has actually nothing to do with finding the casque. it is a red herring? because there is no precedent for this in chicago or cleveland rehash- rehash - does not mean it's not correct just not original. Thus, we will be South of the Statue of Liberty on Bedloe Island, North of the Fort Hamilton subdivision in the South of Brooklyn, bordered between the Shore/Belt Parkway and Fort Hamilton Highschool, 22 steps Eastward into Shore Park, from the middle of the left branch of the V shaped path, under the middle of a branch in a tree, among the roots of the trees, buried in soil. Didn't boogieman dig and explore this area in 2014? as you can see borntalent and i had the right location, but this is the correct reading of all clues, and final location in painting revealed. Great you should give Boogieman and AnimalPainter the credit for this solve because none of what you came up with is original except the laughable stuff. So, No hurricanes, no missing "locators" , no wave action, sidewalks all in place... wheres the casque?

maltedfalcon wrote:: [/b] Thus, we will be South of the Statue of Liberty on Bedloe Island, North of the Fort Hamilton subdivision in the South of Brooklyn, bordered between the Shore/Belt Parkway and Fort Hamilton Highschool, 22 steps Eastward into Shore Park, from the middle of the left branch of the V shaped path, under the middle of a branch in a tree, among the roots of the trees, buried in soil. [b] Didn't boogieman dig and explore this area in 2014? Not sure about that but boogie and I did do a little digging in John Paul Jones Park in 2007.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: also, i see no mistake by Preiss...he used the American English term for a NYC puzzle...get it? i doubt it...lol. I merely see a mistake by you... get it? i doubt it ...lol.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: you were saying... *yawn* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_Peak_(New_York ) LOL check your spelling...

JoshCornell1 wrote:: one thing i forgot to add is the fact that "the natives still speak" also refers to Hamilton. in this sense, it refers to how the natives had their land around NY seized by the US and Hamilton...after which he would force indigenous youth into re-education camps spun as schools. this is a reference to Hamilton College in Stony Brook NY. which was run as a residential school. this sits due south of Gray Peak, and due east of the Alexander Hamilton US Customs House near Battery Park in NYC. where there are 4 stunning statues representing the peoples of the 4 great continents. thus, Preiss is directing us to confront the dominant history of the "founding fathers" with that of this lands original peoples. How can you put so much time into a theory and do zero research on it's history!!

Josh, Is there any chance that you are willing to admit defeat? Possibly an honest declaration of your errors? Whenever you are shown a mistake or proven wrong, you simply double down on your claims of being a perfect solution factory. To me, the journey that you have taken to visit these sites is commendable. It is something next to impossible for the majority of the users on this forum. I really think it would help your cause if you just be honest with yourself and everyone here. Wouldn’t it make the trip far more productive if you had a legion of supporters rather than enemies? I can’t speak for people in other cities, but when you visit Boston, I would help in any way possible. It would be much easier for me to do that if you just toned down the madness and made the attempt to be a real person. Just a thought.

BINGO wrote:: Josh, Is there any chance that you are willing to admit defeat? Possibly an honest declaration of your errors? Whenever you are shown a mistake or proven wrong, you simply double down on your claims of being a perfect solution factory. To me, the journey that you have taken to visit these sites is commendable. It is something next to impossible for the majority of the users on this forum. I really think it would help your cause if you just be honest with yourself and everyone here. Wouldn’t it make the trip far more productive if you had a legion of supporters rather than enemies? I can’t speak for people in other cities, but when you visit Boston, I would help in any way possible. It would be much easier for me to do that if you just toned down the madness and made the attempt to be a real person. Just a thought.

Thank you, Bingo!

JoshCornell1 wrote:: i have a lot of people suppoprting me...just they arent as active as the trolls trolling me. so im perfectly fine thanks. Of course you are right! That is Why you suffer from psychosis; you always think you are right even when proven wrong! And when you don't bother to check the history of the things you claim as solves,well then you show your true colors as a troll. Just Like you did with the African Burial ground you claimed JP used as a clue in the verse, even though the burial ground was not found till 1991. You would not know that because you just look at an image and try really hard to connect it with no context. I can show you another example in your "solve" where you claim it is a great find, a clue in the image, yet it is about a decade off of being possible! This is like checking a 10 year old's homework! You are by far,the biggest fraud and joke on this forum. All these post, and not one is worth a second look!

JoshCornell1 wrote:: Why don't you figure it out yourself, you very stable genius!!? It is only a few replies back!

JoshCornell1 wrote:: why would i admit defeat when the location i noted is IN THE DAMN PAINTING!! Sorry, finding a location in the painting does not make it the location of the casque. Many locations are in all of the paintings, and none of those are the specific spot to dig. Good job in matching an image to a location, that's only the beginning, not the final solution.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: its pretty much the end...at least of the path that Preiss leads you down... Well according to your logic...Preiss was also a time traveler! So there is that.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: how so? Like I said, check your horrible theory, then actually do research on your "solve". You claim Preiss left you clues from a decade or more after the book was published. Not only are there holes in your theories, but there is a gigantic hole on how you attempt to come up with solutions. From the looks of it, you take theories that already exists and then try to smash the pieces together to make them fit, turning a blind eye to everything and everyone that proves it is not true. STOP CLAIMING YOU SOLVED ANYTHING AND MAKING THESE STUPID POSTS AND TOPICS!! YOU CAN"T EVEN DO YOUR MATH!!

JoshCornell1 wrote:: if you are speaking of that last part...you'd be right as i mistook jacksons role with hamiltons. i still think preiss was referencing that place, though, just likely for the opposite reasons i stated...haha. im really tired and mixed the 2 up. my mistake. i do believe Preiss was ref'ing the college though, as hamilton sponsored natives to be educated there. the natives speak would be a reference to how they were taught in their own dialects...which actually makes much more sense. Yes, you are really tired! However that is not the mistake i am talking about. But thank you for proving my point further! I am going to let you and see what other inconsistencies you can come up with on your own "solve".

JoshCornell1 wrote:: yea...youre an idiot and a fool. Yet, you're the guy who refuses to believe that the casques aren't where you dug, because you've been in the wrong spots. You arrogantly close yourself off to any other possibilities. https://www.dropbox.com/s/69me3kwsjrpfb ... 2.jpg?dl=0 And, it's her left hand that forms a "v"... with the index finger pointing. Not her right hand. (Yeah...first post. I've no intention of catching up to to your post count.)

JoshCornell1 wrote:: its HER right hand...its left to us when we are looking at her. its not rocket science. get a clue. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt." Words of wisdom, you'll never understand.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: yea...youre an idiot and a fool. Irony. ☝

JoshCornell1 wrote:: congrats on your first post making you look like a complete fool. So, pattern recognition isn't one of your strengths: It's her left hand. That's okay. Mensa will let you join, one day.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: now accepting supplication and blow jobs from all trolling morons. *whips it out* lets it dangle in your faces... And that , is why you need to be banned.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: i just put you in your place. you still talking? Pry your head outta your sphincter and stop being a moron.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: im the moron? you keep telling ME what IM talking about is in her left hand. i told you repeatedly thats not what im talking about...and you say it again. get lost. get literate. come back. I am damn glad you're Canadian...

JoshCornell1 wrote:: ahhh a new cancer on q4t. No...there's just you...

JoshCornell1 wrote:: ....the right hand is the left hand... You're missing "casque in hand". Until then, you haven't solved squat... you've only proposed solutions, followed by attacks on anybody who proposes an alternate solution.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: ive proven myself time and time again. youve done what? shown up to tell me her right hand is actually her left hand... XD. really. A POLL!!!!! Everybody is welcome to respond. This is her right hand (that in no way forms a "v"): https://www.dropbox.com/s/7x85qon383tp1 ... 8.jpg?dl=0 This is her left hand (that absolutely forms a "v"): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5y11zh6u0gh1 ... 5.jpg?dl=0 So....the question is.... Bagels or toast?

JoshCornell1 wrote:: for someone who has done nothing. proven themselves to noone. and solved literally nothing. you talk a lot of shit. at least malted falcon has failed for years, ill give him credit for that. you havent got the slightest idea how these puzzles work and show up here talking shit like you know something. you are the biggest joke on this site. So that is what you are trying to do? Prove yourself to someone? LOL How can you solve a puzzle when you can't even research your dates correctly!? And you still haven't caught on to your own mistake that you posted!! LMAO This is why we can not help but to point and laugh at you! Please look up the definition of solve the next time you want to use that word in one of your hilarious posts!!

Mister EZ wrote:: A POLL!!!!! Everybody is welcome to respond. This is her right hand (that in no way forms a "v"): https://www.dropbox.com/s/7x85qon383tp1 ... 8.jpg?dl=0 This is her left hand (that absolutely forms a "v"): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r5y11zh6u0gh1 ... 5.jpg?dl=0 So....the question is.... Bagels or toast? Is there any cream cheese?

JoshCornell1 wrote:: right the guy solving all the clues and putting the puzzles together and mapping out their complete designs and sharing most of his work is a cancer. guy who shows up and tells guy solving all the puzzles that the right hand is the left hand, when he's repeatedly corrected is ...a genius? welcome to bizarro land q4t stylez. a severe mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that contact is lost with external reality.

The rhapsodic man is John Paul Jones.

Trohn wrote:: The rhapsodic man is John Paul Jones. Revolutionary War John Paul Jones or Led Zepplin John Paul Jones?

Yes!! Makes it a great clue.

Trohn wrote:: Yes!! Makes it a great clue. Trohn! Long time good to see you! ( I was off for a bit)

Hi Falcon- Didn't we solve all of these like fifteen years ago...? Just thought I'd help out someone getting massively maligned. He was in the right neighborhood but the wrong park. Still alive and well.

Trohn wrote:: Hi Falcon- Didn't we solve all of these like fifteen years ago...? Just thought I'd help out someone getting massively maligned. He was in the right neighborhood but the wrong park. Still alive and well. Who he and which park? It is my opinion that the casque is in Prospect Park in Brooklyn.

Trohn wrote:: Hi Falcon- Didn't we solve all of these like fifteen years ago...? Yes 20 or 30 times...

gManTexas wrote:: Who he and which park? It is my opinion that the casque is in Prospect Park in Brooklyn. Then your opinion will not dig up a casque.

Trohn wrote:: Then your opinion will not dig up a casque. Would you care to share your solve? I am very open minded. I can say though, that through recent work by many people, there are a ton of visual confirmers that put us in Propect Park. The least of which is this map feature: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Looko ... 73.9719729 Bird head from Image 12.

Again, in a short time, I am now tired of this back and forth. If anyone wants to have a friendly chat, either PM me or send me an email being more specific than "tell me what you know". Having lived in NYC for thirty years and within the time frame of when Priess buried the loot is invaluable. Cheers.

Trohn wrote:: Again, in a short time, I am now tired of this back and forth. If anyone wants to have a friendly chat, either PM me or send me an email being more specific than "tell me what you know". Having lived in NYC for thirty years and within the time frame of when Priess buried the loot is invaluable. Cheers. Trohn, I am not at all interested in arguing or anything of that nature. I have in fact, unlike some others around here, embraced the concept of sharing ideas, etc. I am neither saying you are wrong, or I am right. I could be way off base with Prospect Park although there are many people, some on the ground, that have found visual clues directly tied to Image 12. Now unless it is a clever ruse by Preiss, I have to go with the gut here. I was hoping that you could bring some wisdom and levity to this discussion. Well, actually in the Image 12 thread. This thread should be deleted.

Unknown: send me an email You have mail. Verizon account.

Erpobdelliforme wrote:: You have mail. Verizon account. I Sincerely doubt it is JPJ park. That park has been explored, probed, and dug up and nothing. Plus the clues go cold after one or two possible spots. I understand why the location is interesting, and the JPJ connection, and even the simple root(s) theory..but nothing has been there since 2005 when someone came up with the theory and left empty handed. And not that it matters, but I have lived in NYC for 40 years. I am open minded about it...but I would not waste time on this theory anymore

In the spirit of community, can someone tell me what the general consensus of "Indies native" refers to? Not fishing, just not willing to scan three years worth of old posts to find out.... I do know and will share...

Most people are assuming this is Alexander Hamilton. I'm of the belief that Indies native and Natives(next line) are two different things.

karleen wrote:: Most people are assuming this is Alexander Hamilton. I'm of the belief that Indies native and Natives(next line) are two different things. They are two different references.

What still has me puzzled, especially after studying the casques that have been found, is the Russian reference. I assumed from the actual solves that wherever the NYC location is, it would have something to do with Russia or Russian immigration. An example would be the Greek garden in Cleveland. However, the NYC one seems to not be as specific. The most connection it has to Russia, so far, is the population around certain neighborhoods like Brighton beach or Coney Island. The actual strong theories in NYC have little of nothing to do with Russia, if at all. Or am I wrong?

Trohn, a park near Jamaica in Richmond Hill/South Ozone?

NYCNative wrote:: What still has me puzzled, especially after studying the casques that have been found, is the Russian reference. I assumed from the actual solves that wherever the NYC location is, it would have something to do with Russia or Russian immigration. An example would be the Greek garden in Cleveland. However, the NYC one seems to not be as specific. The most connection it has to Russia, so far, is the population around certain neighborhoods like Brighton beach or Coney Island. The actual strong theories in NYC have little of nothing to do with Russia, if at all. Or am I wrong? There have been several migrations of Russians, primarily Jews, to the NYC area and specifically Brooklyn. I think the immigration connections are a little loose in some places, like Chicago, but Preiss may have molded it to fit his narrative. In the case of NYC and specifically Brooklyn, I think we are looking more at the Jewish population rather than Russian. I believe the Russian reference is just to steer us int he direction of NY and the Jewish migration. As for specific neighborhoods, I don't think it is that granular. If we look at Prospect Park, and believe that is the burial site, then we can see Coney Island from Lookout Hill. Reference to Gershwin, etc. Plus, Preiss himself was Jewish. So it all ties together rather nicely.

gManTexas wrote:: There have been several migrations of Russians, primarily Jews, to the NYC area and specifically Brooklyn. I think the immigration connections are a little loose in some places, like Chicago, but Preiss may have molded it to fit his narrative. In the case of NYC and specifically Brooklyn, I think we are looking more at the Jewish population rather than Russian. I believe the Russian reference is just to steer us int he direction of NY and the Jewish migration. As for specific neighborhoods, I don't think it is that granular. If we look at Prospect Park, and believe that is the burial site, then we can see Coney Island from Lookout Hill. Reference to Gershwin, etc. Plus, Preiss himself was Jewish. So it all ties together rather nicely. I think people are correct in the theory that Preiss was not to good at putting together a puzzle! But I think you might be correct in the broadness of the immigration reference. It just frustrates the heck out of me! Heck I say, good sir!

For those interested in New York, I would recommend seeing what 'Gowanus' is.

Trohn wrote:: For those interested in New York, I would recommend seeing what 'Gowanus' is. Google search: "did you mean 'cow anus"? No google... I did not.

yeah.. my mistake

NYCNative wrote:: I think people are correct in the theory that Preiss was not to good at putting together a puzzle! But I think you might be correct in the broadness of the immigration reference. It just frustrates the heck out of me! Heck I say, good sir! such stupidity. such ignorance. you are a fucking disgrace. shitting on a dead genius? dont blame Preiss cause youre a useless troll and idiot. what a LOSER!!! kill yourself.

this guy needs to be removed from the forum period. been watching silently from behind the scenes and he has been nothing but disgusting. what a fucking bird. anyone not in it to honour Preiss needs to check the f**k out. why are you even here?

ANUS. please clean your self up 3 posts. 12 insults. such rude language this forum is not to insult or deride take what you can and leave it clean thank you

anus905 wrote:: this guy needs to be removed from the forum period. been watching silently from behind the scenes and he has been nothing but disgusting. what a fucking bird. anyone not in it to honour Preiss needs to check the f**k out. why are you even here? seriously? You just joined..or are you Josh?

karleen wrote:: seriously? You just joined..or are you Josh? Doesn't matter who he is..he is already about to get banned. And of course is Josh. You can see the bitterness in his words!

actually not josh, i do have another account on this forum and chose to make a new one so i can tell people about their true colors. this place is controlled by a bunch of bullies who derided a guy who was providing a lot of good information...much better than most of you. i talked to him after he posted his solution on the charleston page and he seems like a pretty nice guy to me. the fact you ganged up on him cause you were mad he beat you to the punch is just plain sad. this place is rife with hypocrisy...and the posts you guys made specifically to get this guy banned are pathetic to say the least. if only you were as good at Preiss's puzzles as you were and ganging up on people...maybe, this place would have seen more success over the years. yowzas.

karleen wrote:: seriously? You just joined..or are you Josh? Definitely 100% Josh. Solved! LOL!

anus905, You are right that there is a bullyish atmosphere, accordingly so to those who are already way out of hand, take things way too personally and show no substance whatsoever for their radical stance. I am one of the few(many) people with radical ideas. I've had stupid petty squabbles with many members. Thankfully I am not that insecure that I think it's ever okay to stoop so low as to say some of the seriously maligned bs we've recently witnessed. I get that you are defending the principles of teamwork, but maybe you can tone it down some. Good luck on your efforts.

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