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If you all could get one hint, what question would you want answered? For example, MF wanted to know if there was something missing in the NYC painting. *EDIT: bumping this thread b/c georgecraigmanning is a behavioral health psychologist in Alabama, and the timing of his registration makes me laugh.

T minus 10 minutes...

Hirudiniforme wrote:: T minus 10 minutes... T minus 3...

I would love to know the best (or correct) way to determine which “clues” are actually clues. How exactly can we determine the correct path without all of the bullshit, the bickering, and the need to possess special mental and visual powers.

BINGO wrote:: How exactly can we determine the correct path without all of the bullshit, the bickering, and the need to possess special mental and visual powers. Be objective. Then, nobody can argue. ^^^^^ The best question anybody has ever asked on this forum.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: Extra 10.. JD single barrel treating me right.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: Extra 10.. JD single barrel treating me right. T minus 5.

BINGO wrote:: How exactly can we determine the correct path without all of the bullshit... It I tell you where a treasure is, you can take whatever path you want to go get it. The path is irrelevant.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: It I tell you where a treasure is, you can take whatever path you want to go get it. The path is irrelevant. I appreciate the offer but I would rather earn it myself or cheer on someone who has.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: look back and know I wasn't the one trolling... that it was always Preiss doing so, in a lighthearted way. What did you mean when you said this?

atdreamer2112 wrote:: What did you mean when you said this? Just beats the buzzer.... I meant that Priess never gave out a lick out incorrect information, but rather you chose to interpret it in a way that mislead you.

atdreamer2112 wrote:: Which one of you hacked my interwebs? Vodka, vodka, nyet!

erexere wrote:: :app) You got one, E? I trolled you enough... I owe ya.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: In Chicago, the intent was never to get a person to actually dig up the casque here. It was to make it as nearly easy to get to the spot as in Cleveland, but slightly more difficult by moving the usage of the clues a bit to the more abstract. Get THERE, and BP gave it up. LOL... yeah I prolly just imagined that part. So what does this mean?

atdreamer2112 wrote:: LOL... yeah I prolly just imagined that part. So what does this mean? Exactly this... that you (nor anybody else) was ever meant to be able to dig up the casque in Chicago by themselves.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: Extra 10.. JD single barrel treating me right. JD gone... SoCo kickin in. As much time as Vitamin A allows...

I’ve got another question it time allows, pure curiosity. In the past, you have outlined your steps 1/2 of pairing the images and verses. You never shared your step 3(?) city assignments. Care to share those?

BINGO wrote:: I’ve got another question, pure curiosity. In the past, you have outlined your steps 1/2 of pairing the images and verses. You never shared your step 3(?) city assignments. Care to share those? Everybody knew the cities long before I got here. It is what was supposed to get everyone interested in the puzzle. Get shekels. Do you wanna connect the coordinates to Chicago? The Bowman to Chicago? Water tower to Chicago? Bears logo to Chicago? City on broad shoulders to Chicago? Carl Sandburg to Chicago? The combination of map + images to Chicago? I made an excellent meme for NYCNative. Find it. What city are you confused about? Renovator will argue (symaticly), but... 1) Find the verse/image 2) Find the city 3) Find the park 4) Find the area of the park 5) Dig

100 views, midnight, 4 questions. I don't lie, and people know it.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: Everybody knew the cities long before I got here. It is what was supposed to get everyone interested in the puzzle. Do you wanna connect the coordinates to Chicago? The Bowman to Chicago? Water tower to Chicago? Bears logo to Chicago? City on broad shoulders to Chicago? Carl Sandburg to Chicago? The combination of map + images to Chicago? I made an excellent meme for NYCNative. Find it. What city are you confused about? I’m not confused, more curious. There are people that I like and respect that think cities outside of the consensus are in play. There are also plenty of crazies that will argue for their city because a square in an image or a word in a verse matches something local to them. I guess nothing anyone could say would really change much of that.

BINGO wrote:: I’m not confused, more curious. There are people that I like and respect that think cities outside of the consensus are in play. There are also plenty of crazies that will argue for their city because a square in an image or a word in a verse matches something local to them. I guess nothing anyone could say would really change much of that. Four21Thrasher wrote:: Be objective. Then, nobody can argue. ^^^^^ The best question anybody has ever asked on this forum. At the risk of letting you know who I voted for, "go back..."

Hirudiniforme wrote:: If you all could get one hint, what question would you want answered? For example, MF wanted to know if there was something missing in the NYC painting. Is there?

atdreamer2112 wrote:: Is there? No. Everything that you need is in the images and verses, as printed in both the shitty copy and the real copy, and your imagination.

What would be a hint for the Boston verse that gives it away?

erexere wrote:: What would be a hint for the Boston verse that gives it away? TBH, this is one of the clues I cannot yet figure out. For instance, why could Preiss not have said that the lit clue was Paul Revere's Ride? That wouldn't have given the puzzle away. Neither would have hinting at Thucydides and Xenophon. Honestly, I'm not quite certain what this one means yet. That being said, I have no doubt the statement is true. Unfortunately, I just can't figure it out without misleading myself. I happen to think it has something to do with Preiss not being able to give a hint to the actual location or it would give the puzzle away (or at least a HUGE portion of it). *Edit - I realize I didn't answer directly... Boston is a turnkey... If I told you about it, you would be able to solve a lot of puzzles. That's as much as you will get from me on this.

Unknown: Boston is a turnkey You misspelled "turkey". And "semantically". Say goodnight Gracie.

Erpobdelliforme wrote:: You misspelled "turkey". And "semantically". Say goodnight Gracie. Oh shit... I'm busted.

Unknown: Renovator will argue (symaticly), but...1) Find the verse/image 2) Find the city 3) Find the park 4) Find the area of the park 5) Dig It's not semantics, just common sense. viewtopic.php?f=32&t=7325&start=315 Bottom of the page.

atdreamer2112 wrote:: Is there? The church is likely added to the NY image. It is printed in a way that is vastly different than the way the rest of the book is printed. Instead of being multiple colors combined during printing (like the rest of the book is) The church is printed with one very specific shade. I took the book to a printer and he explained that the book was printed with a five color press cyan, magenta, yellow, black, and a fifth color left over for specific color ink. This is generally used for things like business logos, which use a very specific shade. Because of that, the color, and not the church is important (possibly both... who knows). If the color is important, then there is no way to solve that portion of the images with the reprint, because the colors do not match.

atdreamer2112 wrote:: Is there? ' 421 is incorrect, what I asked is was , Did all the information in the original painting make it though the book printing process. I was told "no data was lost."

maltedfalcon wrote:: ' 421 is incorrect, what I asked is was , Did all the information in the original painting make it though the book printing process. I was told "no data was lost."

Hirudiniforme wrote:: TBH, this is one of the clues I cannot yet figure out. For instance, why could Preiss not have said that the lit clue was Paul Revere's Ride? That wouldn't have given the puzzle away. Neither would have hinting at Thucydides and Xenophon. Honestly, I'm not quite certain what this one means yet. That being said, I have no doubt the statement is true. Unfortunately, I just can't figure it out without misleading myself. I happen to think it has something to do with Preiss not being able to give a hint to the actual location or it would give the puzzle away (or at least a HUGE portion of it). *Edit - I realize I didn't answer directly... Boston is a turnkey... If I told you about it, you would be able to solve a lot of puzzles. That's as much as you will get from me on this. what if the 'lit" clue, lit is a noun, not a verb, as in literature. literature by lamplight.

Hirudiniforme wrote:: Boston is a turnkey... If I told you about it, you would be able to solve a lot of puzzles. That's as much as you will get from me on this. Boston is non moving... If I told you what one line meant, you would be able to see what all lines mean right in front of you. That's as much as you will get from me on this.

"If Thucydides is North of Xenophon Take five steps In the area of his direction" "There will, perhaps, be a Thucydides at Boston, a Xenophon at New York ..." Jump 5 words north of Thucydides; that would be [There] All the letters are there! Tower in a garden (green) Coliseum They all point to the same spot.

Choice wrote:: "If Thucydides is North of Xenophon Take five steps In the area of his direction" "There will, perhaps, be a Thucydides at Boston, a Xenophon at New York ..." Jump 5 words north of Thucydides; that would be [There] All the letters are there! Tower in a garden (green) Coliseum They all point to the same spot. then only fenway. that is it. period. not the ether monument and that is for damn sure

strike13 wrote:: then only fenway. that is it. period. not the ether monument and that is for damn sure and i mean fenway, the park, not the fens

You are clueless. That's for damn sure. PERIOD!

Choice wrote:: You are clueless. That's for damn sure. PERIOD! ok guy, sure.

Unknown: You are clueless. Irony at its finest*. Thank you Choice. *Opined with the usual disclaimers. Peace.

Choice wrote:: angrylittlesackofoldwrinkledskin.gif LOL!!! Ren...

Hirudiniforme wrote:: TBH, this is one of the clues I cannot yet figure out. For instance, why could Preiss not have said that the lit clue was Paul Revere's Ride? That wouldn't have given the puzzle away. Neither would have hinting at Thucydides and Xenophon. Honestly, I'm not quite certain what this one means yet. That being said, I have no doubt the statement is true. Unfortunately, I just can't figure it out without misleading myself. I happen to think it has something to do with Preiss not being able to give a hint to the actual location or it would give the puzzle away (or at least a HUGE portion of it). *Edit - I realize I didn't answer directly... Boston is a turnkey... If I told you about it, you would be able to solve a lot of puzzles. That's as much as you will get from me on this. Thucydidyes & Xenophon + "Eighteenth day / Twelfth hour" both seem like city confirmers the more I look into it, but mainly as a result of not being able to find any location in Boston to tie these to that makes sense with the puzzle and you can imagine burying something near. Interestingly, as far as we know, both Chicago and Cleveland didn't contain city confirmers in the verse - and in the Boston puzzle we might have 2 (revere + Walpole quote). How were searchers supposed to match those up? Feels like there are more consistent ways to match verse to city that we haven't found yet. My favourite way to interpret the first 4 lines has been "If Thucydides is North of Xenophon / Take five steps / In the area if his direction" -> "If Boston is / North of New York / Take five steps / The north area (north end)". 18th day /12th hour might serve double duty as city confirmers & instructions at/to the dig site. Who knows really until we narrow it down to a park and area, which I tend to think we haven't done (depending on your feelings on the charlesgate area being legit or not).

Unknown: LOL!!! Ren... I've always been partial to the comedy of this pair. Here's a link that might be appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx3sOqW5zj4 "Now here's something we hope you'll really like..."