Thread Summary
The forum thread revolves around decoding a mysterious message related to a treasure hunt, possibly involving finding 12 hidden casques. Users like "paperclip" and "forest_blight" analyze the text for hidden codes and clues, with discussions on similarities to other puzzle books and the significance of repeated letters for frequency analysis. Some users focus on practical pursuit of the hidden casques, while others view the book's hidden codes as a literary puzzle. There are debates on the relevance of clues, decoding approaches, and using other treasure hunt books as references. The conversation also touches on education, humor in media, and creative industries. Overall, users are engaged in theorizing, critiquing, and experimenting with potential solutions to the cryptic message and its hidden meanings.
paperclip
Here is the verse from page 9, without notation. It is entitled "The Passage to the New World":
The Northern seas are cold and cruel grey;
Across them sailed the fair tall Elven folk
Southward, the seas are blue, serene and warm;
From that soft mist, with many a merry joke;
Beneath sails brilliant as a peacock's fan,
Djinni arrived. From sunrise and through storm,
Across the Eastern ocean, last came -- Man.
At this point, I tried an old code highlighting the capital letters, and plus the letters preceeding and following. This included, after a few tries, even the letters divided by line breaks,
THE NOrthern seas are cold and cruel greY;
ACross them sailed the fair talLELven folK
SOuthward, the seas are blue, serene and warM;
FRom that soft mist, with many a merry jokE;
BEneath sails brilliant as a peacock's faN,
DJinni arriveD. FRom sunrise and through storM,
ACross thE EAstern ocean, last camE -- MAn.
So, cleaned up, I got line by line:
THENO
(Y) AC LEL
(K) SO
(M) FR
(E) BE
(N) DJ DFR
(M) AC EEA EMA
Which then gives the possibility of the following divisions:
"NOTE H/ YALE CL / OKS / FMR / MR E FETE S WW SP/Y BE/ND F DR J/AMACA M EEE" -- or [glow=red,2,300]"Note Havard-Yale 150 OKs former mystery fete's world war spy bend for Dr. Jamaca 1000 3E."[/glow]
An interesting discovery to be sure, even though this in itself will not lead to a cask. The important thing, however, is that Jamaca Plains in Boston is still a location for a hospital for retired vets, on the E green line for the in town trolley. Add that to the fact the book was published by Harvard Lampoon, and I think this may be a a World War code worth pursuing in the other verses.
paperclip
After another leasurely meal (McDonald's dollar menu, blech . . .) I managed to hammer down a few other interesting nail-biters.
The poem "The Passage to the New World", has a bunch of interesting deviant line behaviors worth looking at. I'm not saying that I don't like poetry -- I do find it useful to send people scampering off into the night after I offer to read them mine. Sort of like mace, but legal in most of the fifty states. But one thing I will say, bad poet as I am, I knw that anyone who threatens to write worse than me even though he has a Harvard education, gets it published, then gets it sold must be up to something.
So, if you notice in the above poem, using a line-by-line breakdown there are way to many words starting with the same letters. Being myself, I decided that meant I might have two seperate groups of raw data code words to break down for clues. I did both sets, and found some nice things to play with. The first data group I did was the words that had no other word in the line beginning with the same letter, combined with another decommissioned code where only the first and last letters of each word in a series are looked at.
So:
1) The Northern seas grey -- te nn ss gy -- NYS GENTS
2) Across sailed elven -- as sd en -- SENDS A
3) The blue warm -- te be wm -- WB MEET
4) From that soft with a joke -- fm tt st wh a je -- TEST WHAT JFM
5) From west at of day -- fm wt at of dy -- TWO DAY FM FT
6) Sails Peacock's fan -- ss ps fn -- SSS NFP
7) Djinni from through -- di fm th -- H MIT FD
I'm still fiddling with what all the abbreviations could mean, but this is a Harvard Lampoon joke, so I may have to do more research. Meanwhile, I looked at the other data set, which I reduced to usable letters by crossing out all the repeats:
1) are cold and cruel -- A CLUE AND
2) the fair tall folk them -- MIT FLAK HERO
3) southward seas serene -- SOUTH WARDEN
4) mist many merry -- MYSTERIAN
5) sweet spirits came close -- POST MAIL CREW
6) beneath brilliant as a -- LET H BRAINS
7) arrived sunrise and storm -- UNDO MASTER
across the eastern ocean last came man -- ON HR CL TEAMS
There do still seem to be other codes in the poem, but I have to look at it a bit more.
Will clip what I find onto the bullitin board when things get interesting.
wilhouse
Fox, wasn't there a conversation once with Preiss where he said there were no anagrams in the puzzles? Or is that my imagination?
Egbert, do you remember?
wilhouse
fox
Not sure Wilhouse, will look through all of my past emails with him. I honestly think that theories such as these are a little too far fetched though. I will easily be swayed the other way when/if one of these anagrams is not just a string of random letters that could or could not mean this or that but an actual sentence that says something like "This casque is in the windy city." I kind of remember {not through my correspondence} that someone said BP said that all that was needed was the Ps and Vs..but I am probably wrong there as well.
It is my belief that, although the humorous stories following the Ps include things that may or may not relate to our sites, all that is truly needed to solve these are the Ps and Vs alone. The Introduction & Postscript to the hunt pretty much clearly states this.
Intro:
"The treasure now,
The story's told
Set for eternity
In days of old
But Man
His numbers quickly grew
And so the Fair Folk come to you
With their challenge and a pact:
To match twelve verses
With the sight
Of paintings twelve in colorlight.
A pair will lead you to a casque
A little digging is the task
For treasures shining, moonglow, amber,
Emeralds dark and ruby embers.
To find the keys is your reward
For Fairy, peace the real accord."
Postscript:
"A dozen paintings
Share the clues
Yet Fairy secrets
Come in twos
To sing a happy treasure song
To have a casque to you belong
Wed one picture
With on verse
For Fair Folk's peace
Goodness first."
Yes, I know this really does not address your question about anagrams but I think we are making these puzzles harder then we really need to.
forest_blight
I couldn't agree more, Fox. The author is very clear on this point. Part of p. 219 reads, "The Fair People's twelve treasures can be found by deciphering the clues in the paintings and the verses in this book." ...and by "paintings" I am pretty sure BP meant the 12 colored ones, not just any old illustration. Anything else is just a wild goose chase.
Actually I think BP would have published just the paintings and verses if he'd had his druthers. But it was too little material to form a book, so he had to find filler material. Hence the next 166 pages.
paperclip
True -- if you want a casque, it seems quite clear that all you have to look at is the flashy pictures and ignore the subtleties. However, if you want to find some interesting, red herring Easter eggs, there are all those other nice useless pictures. It depends on what there may be to dig up, especially if BP was putting in private jokes for friends eslewhere. Editors have sometime been known to do that.
But I digress . . .
fox
Please forgive me but I don't quite understand what you are getting at. If you are simply saying that you can find {for lack of a better word} anomalies or other little tidbits of information not related to the treasures in the rest of the book..then yes, I suppose that is true. You could probably pick up any book and find such things. But if you found that the 3rd letters of every chapter of Moby Dick kind of spelled out "There is a blue cat that studied at Oxford", why would you post it on a message board whose sole purpose is the finding of 12 hidden casques?
paperclip
If you want the casques, go after the casques. (I am not saying that I myself am not after the casques as well.)
If you want to study the book as a piece of literature filled with other codes, some of which may or may not be needed to get to the casques, then there is also that option.
What I at this point find interesting is the presence of the other codes and illustrations on every page. BP was not alone in creating this book, and many other people he socialized with may have been familiar with the codes he used. There are other armchair hunts and such out there. I try to learn something from each one to help me with cracking the next, especially when dealing with a cold case like this.
Perhaps I shall find one man's junk. Perhaps I shall find another man's treasure. But what I have found for certain is that at the bottom of page 9 is a small black&white pencil illustration, elegantly done, of a junk sailing across the ocean, and, since code makers seldom come out of the blue without crossing each other's paths . . .
And, what keeps me here instead of reaching for another book at the moment, is the interesting repetition of the same serious of letters from page to page in the main text. Makes for interesting frequency analysis, and hints that common consistant abbreviations exist in the book, for those familiar with them, which I am not, at the moment.
Hmmm . . .
forest_blight
paperclip - perhaps a good test of your theory would be to pick 3 or 4 random books off your shelf and try the same procedure. If you find something similar, then it is likely the product of wishful thinking.
paperclip
Actually, I was just about doing that . . .
I went back to look at a copy of "Masquerade" online pics, and then "The Maze" -- also online (very sweet grayscale illustrations). They both seem to have similar styles. Of course, those are not random books (since they are designed by puzzle masters) -- and I do not have the hard copy of either. Yet.
As I do not post everything I have here (it would take a ton of time) I do see a lot more repeats that strike me as normal for editing left-overs.
In any case, if anyone wants to message me about the noticable similarities, they are welcome to do so. Meanwhile, I shall continue scribbling out some notes . . .
fox
paperclip wrote::
If you want the casques, go after the casques.
paperclip wrote::
If you want to study the book as a piece of literature filled with other codes, some of which may or may not be needed to get to the casques, then there is also that option.
paperclip wrote::
BP was not alone in creating this book, and many other people he socialized with may have been familiar with the codes he used.
paperclip wrote::
And, what keeps me here instead of reaching for another book at the moment, is the interesting repetition of the same serious of letters from page to page in the main text. Makes for interesting frequency analysis,
paperclip wrote::
I went back to look at a copy of "Masquerade" online pics, and then "The Maze" -- also online (very sweet grayscale illustrations). They both seem to have similar styles. Of course, those are not random books (since they are designed by puzzle masters) --
paperclip wrote::
THE NOrthern seas are cold and cruel greY;
ACross them sailed the fair talLELven folK
SOuthward, the seas are blue, serene and warM;
FRom that soft mist, with many a merry jokE;
BEneath sails brilliant as a peacock's faN,
DJinni arriveD. FRom sunrise and through storM,
ACross thE EAstern ocean, last camE -- MAn.
So, cleaned up, I got line by line:
THENO
(Y) AC LEL
(K) SO
(M) FR
(E) BE
(N) DJ DFR
(M) AC EEA EMA
Which then gives the possibility of the following divisions:
"NOTE H/ YALE CL / OKS / FMR / MR E FETE S WW SP/Y BE/ND F DR J/AMACA M EEE" -- or [glow=red,2,300]"Note Havard-Yale 150 OKs former mystery fete's world war spy bend for Dr. Jamaca 1000 3E."[/glow]
It is my belief that that is why we are all here on these boards.
Reprinted for your convenience:
It is my belief that, although the humorous stories following the Ps include things that may or may not relate to our sites, all that is truly needed to solve these are the Ps and Vs alone. The Introduction & Postscript to the hunt pretty much clearly states this.
Intro:
"The treasure now,
The story's told
Set for eternity
In days of old
But Man
His numbers quickly grew
And so the Fair Folk come to you
With their challenge and a pact:
To match twelve verses
With the sight
Of paintings twelve in colorlight.
A pair will lead you to a casque
A little digging is the task
For treasures shining, moonglow, amber,
Emeralds dark and ruby embers.
To find the keys is your reward
For Fairy, peace the real accord."
Postscript:
"A dozen paintings
Share the clues
Yet Fairy secrets
Come in twos
To sing a happy treasure song
To have a casque to you belong
Wed one picture
With on verse
For Fair Folk's peace
Goodness first."
This book...very true...this treasure hunt..wrong. He and he alone {not even his wife} was familiar with codes {not really used codes in your sense} of this hunt. He sent random images from around each casque site to his illustrator JJP who created the paintings. JJP had NO idea where exactly the casque was buried much less how BP worded the Verses to get us there.
Perhaps a message board for frequency analysis is the place for you.
Seems rather convenient for you to choose other Treasure Hunt books to support your theory...almost as if trying to say "You see, if other puzzle masters have used similar ideas in their hunts...then surely BP {wanting to be a master himself} must have used them as well.
In reviewing your data...
...I realized that there really is no consistency in how you approached it. For the most part, you took each sentence and used the first 2 letters as well as the last letter. But at other times, you used what was needed to reach your wanted conclusion. Why use the entire first word of sentence one as well as the first 2 letters as well as the last letter?
Blight suggested you randomly grab a book off of your shelf to use so I did just that. Well, actually I grabbed a book from my 9 year old son's shelf to see what I could get. The book I have is
Good Morning, Gorillas
by Mary Pope Osborne.
I didn't know if it would work with simple text so I leafed through the book until I found a page with an indented entry similar to our V's in this hunt. I then used the first 2 letters as well as the last letter theory. This entry, located on page 30, reads:
"
MO
untain gorillas live together in
familie
S
.
TH
e leader of the family is
a large male called a "silverback"
because he has silver fur on his back
and shoulder
S
.
GO
rillas do not hunt
other animal
S
.
TH
ey mainly eat the
plant growth of the fores
T
.
TH
ey are
known to be shy and gentle giant
S
."
This leaves us with the following string of letters:
MOSTHSGOSTHTTHS which, with a little manipulation could also be read as
THSMOSGOSTHTTHS. All I did was placed the 4th, 5th & 6th letters to the front of the string. Now we have:
THS = These
MOS = Months
GO = Go
S = worldwide abbreviation for South {directions are always needed in treasure hunts}
TH = Through
TTHS = Thornton Township High School in Harvey, ILL. Those sure sound like directions to me. These months, go south through Thornton Township High School. Now all we have to do is figure out specifically which months are needed and once that is done, we are in like Flynn.
All I am doing here is showing you that this works with everything! I could go on further by showing that "Knowledge is Power" {as seen in the banner of TTHS web page
hxxp://www.district205.net/thornton/site/default.asp
} shows that maybe we need to study more books to reach our dig site...perhaps maybe we need to study Mary Chase's Pulitzer Prize-winning play
Harvey
to find our way, since TTHS is located in Harvey, ILL? The more I look, the more it spirals out of control. If only we knew for sure which months to use.
Let's shift our focus back to where it is needed...the P's & the V's and maybe we can follow up the 1st two casques found using only PVs with a 3rd.
Cormac
Knowledge is Power
Power Corrupts
paperclip
fox wrote::
...I realized that there really is no consistency in how you approached it.
Sorry then, perhaps I shall have to learn how to speak more plainly. After all, if I can't get an idea across, perhaps the time has come to at least learn how to write a 1-page executive summary. But, as you have explained -- quite clearly, unless I am again getting caught in miscommunication -- you don't want to hear what sounds like unfounded balderdash.
Far be it from me to muddle the waters here -- but my offer still stands. Anyone who wants to talk about Easter Eggs that are not quite red herrings and do nothing really for what is supposed to be the main hunt other than show the writer's level of education and style may feel free to email me. "The Secret" is an interesting piece of literature published a long time ago. And, after reading it carefully, I find it a hard copy to put down because I as a reader/writer/editor like to expand my horizons.
And, while the Mary Pope Osborn "Magic Treehouse" series is not quite my venue, before you count or discount any book -- even a children's picture book, like "Polar Express" or "Curious George" or "The Cat in the Hat" -- perhaps you would need to know all the writers/illustrators/editors/publishers/distributors and such that had a hand in the final product.
And, just to show Easter Eggs can happen in the real world, let us consider that hot copy of "Little Mermaid" where some bored Disney artists got a little en flagrant with some of those towers of King Triton's castle. The seemed so . . . phallic. Wonder how much a DVD with that cover art goes for on eBay now? All over a little sense of humor by underpaid staff who may not last more than five years in the industry before their sub-company goes out of business, because God help us all if the get long-term benefits.
But that's L.A. How dare I think the same thing about National Lampoon when I next take my mental couch trip Vacations?
Your right, of course. After a while there may not be any consistancy in which my approaching any particular story holds up.
But then, that's publishing for you...
fox
paperclip wrote::
But, as you have explained -- quite clearly, unless I am again getting caught in miscommunication -- you don't want to hear what sounds like unfounded balderdash.
paperclip wrote::
Far be it from me to muddle the waters here -- but my offer still stands. Anyone who wants to talk about Easter Eggs that are not quite red herrings and do nothing really for what is supposed to be the main hunt other than show the writer's level of education and style may feel free to email me.
paperclip wrote::
If you want to study the book as a piece of literature filled with other codes, some of which may or may not be needed to get to the casques, then there is also that option.
paperclip wrote::
True -- if you want a casque, it seems quite clear that all you have to look at is the flashy pictures and ignore the subtleties. However, if you want to find some interesting, red herring Easter eggs, there are all those other nice useless pictures. It depends on what there may be to dig up, especially if BP was putting in private jokes for friends eslewhere. Editors have sometime been known to do that.
But I digress . . .
That is exactly what seems to have happened here...slight miscommunication. And I think I see exactly where I went wrong. This last post you state:
but, in a previous message you stated:
So we have
and do nothing really for what is supposed to be the main hunt other than show the writer's level of education and style
vs.
some of which may or may not be needed to get to the casques
The second option above {first option you posted on the boards} sounds almost as if, correct me if I am wrong, you want us to think there is a possibility that these easter eggs may lead us to a casque.
you also had this to say in the past:
Red herring and Easter eggs are not the same thing which I am sure you know. Red herrings are clues purposefully put into a
hunt
to mislead the hunters...while EE's are simply any little thing hidden anywhere as an inside joke to those placing them: movies; tv; print; etc...
I have always loved Easter Eggs and often find myself looking online for any EEs in dvd's / movies I will be watching. I suppose, the frequency analysis you are doing could be considered EEs but I don't see how they could be considered red herrings. You finished the above statement by saying " It depends on what there may be to dig up, especially if BP was putting in private jokes for friends eslewhere." Once again, and I don't think I am the only one taking it this way, it sure sounds like you are trying to convince us that there could very well likely be other 'things' besides our 12 casque buried out there somewhere for us to find.
In a nutshell, more power to you. I have never once said that what you are doing is useless or stupid... I just feel that it is useless to our task at hand which is locating the remaining 10 casques.
paperclip
Thanks for the understanding, and I'm so glad we agree that I am not on a stupid or useless path of study, even though it may not lead to a casque. Though I will admit, it is difficult for me to simply turn off my mind when I am not looking at the designated puzzle borders in the same way everyone else is . . . I may settle in a bit more given time and be a bit like everyone else who has more experience and formal training. I am actually quite new to this game and armchair treasure hunting in general. There is a lot of back reading I have to do just to get to the same starting point as a lot of people. And even then, there are many things I still miss . . .
But, if I do find something particularly weird that says, "I buried an extra casque here", I'll let people know.
Meanwhile, I'll try to keep any distracting comments to a minimum, and work on the agreed body of evidence.
Anyway, the game is still afoot . . .
fox
paperclip wrote::
I may settle in a bit more given time and be a bit like everyone else who has more experience and formal training.
paperclip wrote::
But, if I do find something particularly weird that says, "I buried an extra casque here", I'll let people know.
Please don't.
The more diverse the ideas, the farther we get.
Please do.
Welcome to the team and indeed, the game is afoot.
shecrab
Formal training???
As what?
fox
Long time no see shecrab. Have you been traveling the states unearthing casques?
shecrab
No LOL...(I WISH!)...I've been lurking around....my computer was trashed from Dec. 18 to just recently---it literally blew up and took everything on both hard drives with it. It took me a few weeks to get something else. My "new" machine is an aging laptop without the same capacity, but I'm slowly building things back up on it. The only thing I really hated losing were my photos. I can duplicate everything else. This time I'm keeping everything on external drives.
It's been a hard slog. I'm also battling the snow monster here--we've had two feet of snow in the past three weeks. And they also clamped down on our surfing privileges at work--so I can't access forums or mail during the day anymore. Winter. Bleaaah.
Hasn't been much activity that has really piqued my interest, either...some old theories revived--all ground we've covered once or twice before. (not that there's anythng wrong with that, mind you.) I'm up for some good discussion tho.
How's it been goin' with all youse guys here?
paperclip
"Training . . . ?"
Well, real-life orienteering training that may have happened by actually slogging through the rainy geocaching back-roads in search of travel bugs, and God knows what else, while I sit comfortably at home, munching potato chips and sedately flipping through loose papers.
Inertia has taken its toll upon me. My middle-aged, spreading butt is wide and comfortable, my clothing floppy. I have little real desire to move from my library meditation spot. My potato chip bowl is deep.
One of the things that has really caught my curiousity is the following quote from page 1, which is un-numbered. (In fact, the only way I knew it was page 1 was that I counted back from page 6, like another, unnamed book). Anyway, the quote is as follows:
"A quest for twelve treasures: over ten thousand
dollars in precious jewels. They may even be hidden in
your city or your local park or even in your own
backyard. You might even figure out one of their
hiding places without leaving your house. . . ."
At this point, I could only pause, thoughtful, before cramming another handful of broken potato chip dreams in my mouth. Had I, perhaps, caught an echo through time and bad publishing experience? Wasn't that . . . other contest . . . behind me? Dare I flip the next page, and discover "The Secrets" that man was not meant to know, otherwise we would have all figured out that damn red block code by now? Or should I just shudder bravely, and go on. There was no ring conspiracy. This time, there were only treasure casques to trove for.
This was not the token literary reference I was looking for, that might involve time-travelers and B-grade movies, and crawling creatures from the Black Lagoon Forest. I knew I should move along -- and never look back.
Wiping trembling fingers across my fevered brow, I decided to go back to examining poems and pictures with no subtext -- after wiping the salty grease and chip-bits from my flushed face.
I breathe deep . . . I'm all better now.
I just keep careful notes.
Really. Trust me . . .
Also, sorry about the loss of your hard drive, shecrab. I would be wimpering if mine died, glad to know you had backups for just about everything.
fox
shecrab wrote::
The only thing I really hated losing were my photos. I can duplicate everything else. This time I'm keeping everything on external drives.
shecrab wrote::
How's it been goin' with all youse guys here?
I know what you mean. One of our computers {of course the one with allllllllllllll of our pictures} seems to trying to tell us it is ready to go to the great hard drive in the sky. We actually just went out and got an external backup so we don't lose the pix.
You need to drop in more often Missy Crab...or at least catch up on the readings. Since you have been absent, we have not only dug up the Milwaukee casque but the New Orlean's one as well. I really think we need to rethink our approach on narrowing down the actual site though.
Milwaukee
New Orleans
Welcome Back!
shecrab
Nice excavation work there! Now--whomsoever owns that bulldozer please come and remove most of my snow. I'll be eternally grateful.
forest_blight
Fox - don't forget the casques we unearthed in Des Moines, Fargo, and that lonely stretch of road between Topeka and Wichita. These have been heady days indeed.
paperclip
I was looking over the wiki, and wondered over the comment that the birthstones seem to have little to do with the rest of the hunt. Perhaps the birthstones might be a confirmer for the the image/city match if we knew the month that city was founded in -- or even number 1-to-12 the order in which the cities were founded? Or perhaps, there might be something in the verse that can speak only of certain months, be that famous authors born in that time, or partial quotes that might be literary references to a longer piece with the month mentioned.
It would sort of clean up some of the ambiguity if there is a match -- not that there has to be. But if why would BP put it in (flower, birthstone, and actual month . . . ?) if it might not link city/verse/picture in the larger scheme?
fox
forest_blight wrote::
Fox - don't forget that lonely stretch of road between Topeka and Wichita.
How could I forget that one? And BP said we wouldn't have to pay anything
paperclip...many of us around here have been wondering the very same thing but we can't seem to figure out just how to tie in those birth month confirmers to specific Ps. Now that project would be something I would WHOLLY support you working on
shecrab
And I am going to be the voice of dissent.
I think trying to glean more meaning is a waste of time. There's plenty (of meanings) available as they are--and the birthstones/flowers
already
serve a large purpose
because they identify the jewels.
That may seem obvious, but take Meaner Simmikles question about the amethyst in the Milwaukee image (p. 10); he cannot be sure it's an amethyst at all because it doesn't LOOK like one. It's not purple, violet, lavender, lilac, mauve or any other purplish color--it's
blue
. We know it's not an aquamarine, though--because that jewel was already found in Cleveland. We know it's not a sapphire, because there isn't one of those. Therefore, it has to be the amethyst. That fact is confirmed by the flower in the image. Likewise, the green stone in the Chicago picture is an emerald--it's been found and confirmed. That means the other green stone has to be the peridot, and both facts are backed up by the birth-month flowers found in the images.
Basically, we're not really even looking for deeper meanings--we're only looking to successfully pair up a picture with a verse and then un-rebus the riddle in the verse, confirmed by the picture. Does there have to be more to it than that?
fox
shecrab wrote::
And I am going to be the voice of dissent.
shecrab wrote::
There's plenty (of meanings) available as they are--and the birthstones/flowers
already
serve a large purpose
because they identify the jewels.
Of course you are...and when you aren't feeling up to it, I will step in for you
You know, all of these years I have been on this board, I think that is the first time that this was put so simply. I honestly can not think of ever reading that idea but it makes so much sense. I have, which seems like the path paperclip is taking, always believed that the flower/#/gem {leading us to a specific month} would somehow be a connecting device for P & V. But your statement makes so much sense. BUT, if you are correct, do you think there is any other connecting device for P & V or do you think we just have to wittle them down?
Why else would BP have put 3 different things into each P which obviously lead us to a month?
WhiteRabbit
P29/30:
"Imagine the Leprechauns of Erin (whose earliest roots in the New World were doubtless in Massachusetts) as from their hiding places they watched the Mayflower drop anchor and saw upon its deck a grim-faced throng of Celt-murdering Puritans.
Consider a group of those frugal Lowland Dwarves, the Alven, hovering, invisible, and observing in economic agony while their old friends the Canarsie tribe traded Manhattan Island for a handful of trinkets! (Could it be that they imagined Peter Minuit's glass baubles possessed the same worth as the Alven's Treasure-Stone?)
For slow centuries, the exotic Dracs and Fadas from the Riviera had sported and dozed on the beaches of newfound Florida. Perhaps the metal-clashing landfall of the Conquistadores took them by surprise, and they fled without taking time to disenchant their Fountain of Youth.
Can you imagine the host of Fair People in flight across the wide, wild continent, scuttling inland like crabs from the rising tide, dashing like foxes before an inexorable pack of hounds?
Can you picture Yo-Rib and his companions standing at length, in a few small, heartbroken bands, their backs to the Pacific, as the sky darkens with the oncoming smoke of trains and trade..."
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I don't know if there's any relevance in the first paragraph to the Image 5 solution...?
Re: the second paragraph, the Canarsie lived in
Owl's Head Park
.
The third paragraph ties in with Image 6, Spain, Florida and FOY.
The fifth paragraph ties in with the Image 9 / George Stephen legeater theory, George Stephen being the first president of the Canadian Pacific Railway. Footnotes on P25 and P27 tell us that Yo-Rib is Huron (Quebec), and links them to the Dutch. (
PVM
was built on a railway trench.)
slappybuns
that "pack of hounds" always makes me think of newshounds, newspapers
down by the "bowery"
bows.....oh no here we go again
bend, tree limbs, nod, shelter (tree), front of boats, arrows, incline, salute
bowery from dutch word "farm" and "boor, boer" tupperwerewolves...........
and what is paper made from for the newspapers? ........oak trees, lol