Thread Summary
The forum discussion begins with kibitz pointing out similarities between various images, leading to a discussion on potential connections. Fox relates these observations to a belief about linked P's and V's, while Cormac suggests that the similarities are stylistic choices. Slappybuns praises kibitz's observation skills. Cormac then brings up elite social clubs in different locations, sparking a conversation about potential connections between them and other places like the Athenaeum in Boston and Preservation Hall in New Orleans. The discussion revolves around finding similarities and potential clues in these locations related to the overall theme being discussed, which involves a mysterious figure named BP and his potential connections to elite clubs. Users speculate on BP's background, associations, and the locations where he may have hidden casques. There is a debate on whether BP was elitist or more open to sharing his favorite spots. Some users mention his collaboration with National Lampoon and his roaming with a backpack and shovel. The conversation also touches on references to TV shows like FRINGE and the symbolism in images. A link to membership in an elite club mentioned in an obituary adds another layer to the discussion. Overall, the users are trying to piece together information to uncover more about BP and his potential motivations.
kibitz
Has anyone else noticed that this...
Looks Like this...
Or that this...
Looks like this...
Or perhaps this...
Looks kind of like this...
Or if you are really imaginative, this...
sort of looks like this?
kibitz
fox
hmmmmm, interesting. I can honestly say that I had never noticed those. I do not recall anyone else ever mentioning these likenesses. More ammo for me and my longtime belief that these P's - V's are somehow linked. Thanks for pointing these out.
Cormac
Noticed, but figured they were just tying the pictures together in style since we aren't supposed to put two pictures together.
bigmattyh
Hm, really interesting observation. I wonder if all the pics can be linked like this.
Cormac
V11 even mentions "circle and square"
slappybuns
very observant kibitz!
Cormac
a different observation...
In "relatively" recent posts I've seen 3 occurances of elite social clubs....
Can we find any similarity between the other locations?
Charleston SC “…the Pink House was also the founding site for an unusual club called the Piping and Marching Society of Lower Chalmers Street. … It was begun by a group of
World War II veterans for philosophical discussions and judicious beer drinking. Each month a member gave a serious paper on a subject outside his chosen professional field and during their 'Winter Rout', a prize was awarded for the best presentation. At this meeting and at their 'Summer Frolic', the group marched through the city accompanied by bagpipes.”
Montreal ... the "legeater" sits outside the Mount Stephen Club. Founded by a group of Montreal businessmen, the Club started in 1926 on the estate of George Stephen, co-founder and first President of the Canadian Pacific Railway. The house, built between 1880 and 1883, is located in the heart of downtown Montreal, in an area known as the Golden Square Mile, once the wealthiest residential neighbourhood in Canada.
New York .... "the sign Nearby Speaks of Indies native" at the Montauk Club. The Montauk Club is a slice of Victoriana that would be pretentious if it weren’t so enjoyable and fun to view when walking past. The club itself was established in 1889 as a “gentleman’s social club”; a plaque at the front entrance describes its (completed in) 891 building at 8th Avenue and Lincoln Place as modeled by architect Francis Kimball after the Ca’ d’Oro in Venice.
animal painter
Cormac,
Don't forget the Athenaeum in Boston...
AP
Cormac
Was there a clue connected with the Athenaeum in Boston?
Cormac
They say the memory is the first thing to go..
I don't remember what the second thing was...
animal painter
Cormac,
Back on the Image 11 thread, I had followed BP through the walking tour of Boston past the Athaeneum...
the doors of which I thought looked similar to the squares on the leather stole worn by the figure in Image 11.
AP
Cormac
I'm thinking Preservation Hall would be the one in New Orleans.
Though not an elite club, it is a famous cultural social gathering place.
So... now with 4 and possibly 5 places...
Is there any information out there such as a biography that might have BP frequenting these types of locations?
Or any more locations in the hunt that we might link a plase such as these to a V or I ?
At either of the "found" locations?
shecrab
animal painter wrote::
Cormac,
Back on the Image 11 thread, I had followed BP through the walking tour of Boston past the Athaeneum...
the doors of which I thought looked similar to the squares on the leather stole worn by the figure in Image 11.
AP
I've always liked the Athaeneum as well. The only problem with it is that the public is not allowed inside.
animal painter
Shecrab,
I like the Athaeneum, too.
There would be no need to be allowed inside
if the visual clues are supposed to be evident
from the street.
(BP may have had connections to be allowed inside
)
Cormac
It's those connections I'm wondering about, since I can find no real biographic information on BP
Just thinking outside the book.
He's picked some very nice places to visit.
Was he the elitist or decadent type?
Would he be the type that would want to share a favorite or familiar spot?
animal painter
Cormac,
I tend to think that BP went to larger publisher-related cities,
(unlike Michael Stadther who went to some fairly small hamlets
to hide his tokens in the
Treasure's Trove
).
His associations would have been more elite.
Did those associations take him nearer to "men's clubs"?
Probably.
Did it mean that he hid casques nearer to "men's clubs" ?
It may be a matter of helping to focus on certain areas in
known casque cities..(In Milwaukee, there are many posh
buildings near the lakefront...But exclusive men's clubs??)
Keep searching that line-of thought.
AP
wilhouse
BP was a fan and collaborator of National Lampoon. While that is a Harvard led institution I would not say it was elitist. He certainly was well read, and from the upper crust. Some of his refernces are amazing and we all know that there's a lot of book reading involved.
Saying all that, the Houston zoo area in 1982 was nothing but dirt and fields. The area was growing and the museums were being built, but there were no "clubs" in the area. From what he's said, he roamed the country with a backpack and a shovel and a bunch of plexiglass boxes...
when he wasn't being bugged about the Secret, he was friendly and talkative and liked to discuss the books he was publishing, of which I have quite a few.
just observing.
wilhouse
Cormac
Thank you Wilhouse.
boogieman
From one of my favorite TVshows, FRINGE. The daisy caught my eye. Those petals in image2 have to be something other than petals.
hxxp://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fringe_Symbols
cw0909
boogieman wrote::
From one of my favorite TVshows, FRINGE. The daisy caught my eye. Those petals in image2 have to be something other than petals.
hxxp://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fringe_Symbols
was thinking that maybe a walkway in a park, but dont know for sure, still looking at your idea
Cormac
Found a link to membership in an elite club in an obit.
PREISS--Byron C. The Officers, Governors and Members of the Friars Club deeply mourn the loss of their beloved and esteemed member, Friar Byron Preiss.