Thread Summary
The forum discussion revolves around the search for a hidden casque in Golden Gate Park, with users sharing theories, experiences, and historical context related to the treasure hunt. New members like The_Search_Continues express interest in helping with the search, while experienced members like catherwood emphasize the importance of interpreting clues without modern tools. There is a history of unsuccessful dig attempts and disagreements about the casque's location, with users speculating on potential spots like the Chinese pavilion. WhiteRabbit and others discuss specific details in the verses that could lead to a breakthrough. The community values sharing information and supporting each other in the search for closure, with members like kevsquirrel seeking permission for a new dig spot based on old photos and local knowledge. Overall, the forum is a mix of experienced and new members contributing theories and ideas for the ongoing treasure hunt in Golden Gate Park.
The_Search_Continues
Hi all,
We are new here and are very interested in helping with the search for the San Francisco casque. We've been doing some research, but wondered what theories/insight you might have for us? Personally, we are leaning towards it being hidden in Golden Gate Park, and we've been trying to make connections between image one and verse seven (there seem to be many), but we would love to hear from pros and experienced seekers of the casques.
Thanks,
Five Enthusiastic Searchers
catherwood
Welcome! I think we we get more "newbies" as James Renner's documentary gets more exposure for the hunt and his website encourages new eyes to look at the clues.
Unfortunately, what we need are old eyewitnesses to how these locations looked at the time the book was published. New thoughts are welcome as to how we might interpret clues and infer what they meant decades ago, from a time without satellite imagery or deep research tools like Google.
If you had the stamina, you could revisit all of the posts of past discussions, on this forum here and on
"Tweleve" (not a typo)
, to read the history of how some of our most prominent theories have evolved. You'll also find reports from people who dug up various locations without success.
At first, threads were organized by breaking out the images and verses into their own threads. Over time, we have paired them, but there is always an undercurrent of disagreement whether these pairings or their assumed locations might be wrong. That's why we don't have 12 city threads floating to the top.
As for San Francisco, a few places around Golden Gate Park were already dug up. A few other nearby alternative sites have been suggested, but the landmarks have changed over time. We may never know whether landscaping has already destroyed a casque. We may never know that we have already solved several of these puzzles correctly but arrived too late for confirmation.
Again, welcome. As with any community (both online and in real life), we have our quirks and our history. Our tradition has always strived to share information, not hoard secrets (no pun intended) or gloat about knowing more than others. We feel a collective ownership over the treasures, and feel that this is no longer a race or a competition. We can agree to disagree on some details and theories, but we all just want to find closure for the unsolved mysteries, and we're supportive of anyone who has the same goals.
(maybe I should pin this essay somewhere)
The_Search_Continues
Thank your for the reply. We are more than willing to help any way way we can! We are glad to be a part of this community.
fox
Welcome to the madhouse. I think it's time we unearth number three.
WhiteRabbit
Good luck with it. V7 lists a whole bunch of distinctive stuff that's never been satisfactorily explained and ought still to be recognisable if you're at the right location. Could still be a breakthough here.
The_Search_Continues
Yeah, we've been reading up on all the theories and possible locations. We've had some good ideas, but I doubt they're headed in the right direction.
We'll just keep pondering.
Does anyone know where we could find a list of spots that have already been dug up? Or, like with the other two casques found, is it just a matter of trying again? I know the Cleveland one was only found after practically digging up the whole plot, and the Chicago one was all but given up on until someone's misstep caused the edge of the hole to crumble, revealing the casque.
We're playing around with the idea of it being in or near the Chinese pavilion, which was dedicated a year before the book was published and seems to have ties to the image. In addition, the Cleveland casque, which was the "Greek" immigrants', was found in the Greek Cultural garden. It just makes sense that the Chinese pavilion would have something to do with the location of the casque.
The_Search_Continues
Been reading old threads- saw that fox mentioned a pole is a unit of measure. Did some google searching to see if we could built off of this.
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but a step is also a unit of measure.
"A step (Latin: gradus, pl. gradūs) was a Roman unit of length equal to 2½ Roman feet (pedes) or ½ Roman pace (passus). Following its standardization under Agrippa, one step was roughly equivalent to 0.81 yards or 0.74 meters.
The Byzantine pace (Greek: βήμα, bḗma) was an adaption of the Roman step, a distance of 2½ Greek feet.[3]
Similarly, the US customary pace is a distance of 2½ feet or 30 inches."
So a giant pole plus a giant step= 19 feet?
catherwood
i can only remember two locations off the top of my head where maltedfalcon dug in Golden Gate Park, or maybe only one? While there was some good discussion about the field where the totem pole sculpture had been located, I forget now whether it was dug, but irrigation work and other landscaping has occured there. He was partial to a horseshoes game pit (near the greenhouse?) and had permission to dig, maybe on multiple occasions. For a while, I thought there was talk about a set of wooden stairs around the lake (or on the island in the middle) but maybe it was never visited.
I am not familiar with the Chinese Pavillion, personally. I feel like the image does present the chinese theme but only as a flavor for San Francisco in general, to tie it to the list of fairy-folk origins in the book. Wasn't the Chicago image suggesting an Irish culture, too?
WhiteRabbit
The_Search_Continues wrote::
We're playing around with the idea of it being in or near the Chinese pavilion
It's a perfect fit for the theme of the image, but I suspect that it would be a wild stretch trying to tie it with the verse.
maltedfalcon
catherwood wrote::
i can only remember two locations off the top of my head where maltedfalcon dug in Golden Gate Park, or maybe only one?
shoot, I have trouble remembering all the places i have dug.
however I did not dig near the horshoepit or the staircase near the conservatory of flowers.that was somebody else.
among the many locations I've dug at, are the rose garden, the golfcourse, Lindley meadows, near the cross, near keyzar stadium, and near the Great Highway. (all with park permission!)
decibalnyc
I instigated the stairs dig along with someone else.
WhiteRabbit
Unknown:
That larger, more inclusive spirit was in the air for the Decoration Day that was celebrated in San Francisco on 30 May 1913. Based on the extensive illustrated coverage in the next morning's San Francisco Call newspaper, it appears that the 1913 event was conceived as the launch of a dedicated effort to raise the profile of Decoration Day as a more general holiday of remembrance.
In addition to the usual military commemorations — services at the Presidio and the casting of garlands on the waters of the Golden Gate — there was something like a public "tour" of the city's private cemeteries, starting at Mission Dolores and proceeding to the "Big Four" at Lone Mountain: Odd Fellows, Masonic, Calvary and Laurel Hill.
Just for fun, May 1913 in GGP
hxxp://www.childsgallery.com/work/1095513647
hxxp://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm/singleitem/ ... 0900/rec/1
hxxp://www.emperorsbridge.org/blog/2016 ... peror-1913
forest_blight
It's true -- I visited the pavilion back in 2009, and my photos show the triratna you mention. I missed that.
EveryGirlYouKnow
Hey team, this is my first post on Quest4Treasure. I think I've solved the verse for the treasure in Golden Gate Park, and have visited the park three times this month to confirm-- is anyone interested in meeting me for a dig?
kevsquirrel
Hi Everyone,
Just joined!
I been checking the threads and I think I have a good idea of new dig spot.
Ive been going though old photos and talking to people I know who have lived hear since the 70s onwards.
Could anyone please help with information on contacting Golden Gate Park about how to get permission to dig?
EveryGirlYouKnow, the universe is a strange place. So I'm wondering if you and I come to the same conclusion!? How awesome would that be!?