Thread Summary
The forum discussion revolves around a treasure hunt puzzle related to various cities like Chicago, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Boston, and St. Augustine. Users are analyzing paintings, landmarks, and themes to crack the puzzle, seeking patterns in starting points and final casque locations. The debate includes discussions on distances, directions, and potential connections between clues. Users like Haarstick, gManTexas, burnstyle, and others share theories and interpretations, while disagreements arise on the significance of themes and the need for open-mindedness in exploring solutions. The conversation also delves into the emotional investment and attachment users have to their theories, leading to defensive reactions when challenged. Overall, the thread showcases a mix of dedication, differing viewpoints, and a shared goal of solving the puzzles while exploring the complexities of human behavior in puzzle-solving scenarios.
Haarstick
I'm on the Boston hunt but looking into a running theme between the puzzles. Curious where St. Augustine starts - as in which landmark do you start at and where is it in relation to the Fountain of Youth? North, south, really close, really far, etc? Any help is greatly appreciated!
gManTexas
I don't know about St. Augustine, but you will get a whole range of answers on this question. Some people feel that everything should be close, but if we use Chicago as an example, it was like 4 miles from start to finish. I suppose it depends on the city and puzzle. I personally think a couple of miles is reasonable, but the initial steps may be on the way to the casque site. Milwaukee is an example.
drunknerds
I feel like burnstyle is the world expert as to all things Image 6. I'd pm him.
Haarstick
Thanks guys! Chicago was far - just measured and it's 2 miles from the Water Tower to Grant Park. Cleveland is just under 6 miles from the Terminal Tower to the Greek Cultural Gardens. Each start point is one straight boulevard in one direction away from the casque.
For Milwaukee it seems the straight line does not hold true if you start at the city hall pictured in the painting and go to Lake Park. You'd have to go east then north but you could take Route 32 the whole way. Doesn't fit great but close.
Curious to see what St. Augustine's landmark was and/or start point.
Boston could be the Public Library but that doesn't really come from the painting but rather the verse but it does put us somewhere and if we follow the pattern of taking one street in one direction (Boylston) it puts us at the Fens.
Trying to see if there is a pattern.......
drunknerds
Haarstick wrote::
Thanks guys! Chicago was far - just measured and it's 2 miles from the Water Tower to Grant Park. Cleveland is just under 6 miles from the Terminal Tower to the Greek Cultural Gardens. Each start point is one straight boulevard in one direction away from the casque.
For Milwaukee it seems the straight line does not hold true if you start at the city hall pictured in the painting and go to Lake Park. You'd have to go east then north but you could take Route 32 the whole way. Doesn't fit great but close.
Curious to see what St. Augustine's landmark was and/or start point.
Boston could be the Public Library but that doesn't really come from the painting but rather the verse but it does put us somewhere and if we follow the pattern of taking one street in one direction (Boylston) it puts us at the Fens.
Trying to see if there is a pattern.......
Malted falcon was doing this exact same thing on the podcast(hosted, interestingly, by burnstyle). He probably has some leading theories on this
gManTexas
Haarstick wrote::
Thanks guys! Chicago was far - just measured and it's 2 miles from the Water Tower to Grant Park. Cleveland is just under 6 miles from the Terminal Tower to the Greek Cultural Gardens. Each start point is one straight boulevard in one direction away from the casque.
For Milwaukee it seems the straight line does not hold true if you start at the city hall pictured in the painting and go to Lake Park. You'd have to go east then north but you could take Route 32 the whole way. Doesn't fit great but close.
Curious to see what St. Augustine's landmark was and/or start point.
Boston could be the Public Library but that doesn't really come from the painting but rather the verse but it does put us somewhere and if we follow the pattern of taking one street in one direction (Boylston) it puts us at the Fens.
Trying to see if there is a pattern.......
I think it's Commonwealth or even Beacon from the library. Otherwise you miss the CG at Charlesgate on the way.
strike13
gManTexas wrote::
I think it's Commonwealth or even Beacon from the library. Otherwise you miss the CG at Charlesgate on the way.
Beacon would be a little unrealistic i think, it's a little too west. Comm ave would work, but i think it is Boylston. Just my opinion
burnstyle
The st Augustine verse starts at the entrance of the fountain of youth and depending on how you read it... ends somewhere within 200 yards of the entrance.
burnstyle
The st Augustine painting doesn't have a defined landmark that anyone has found yet.
It has iimage matches, and a map... But they are all contained to the fountain of youth.
gManTexas
burnstyle wrote::
The st Augustine painting doesn't have a defined landmark that anyone has found yet.
It has iimage matches, and a map... But they are all contained to the fountain of youth.
I found the "face" on the right side of the mountain matches a thing called Pine Island just north of St Augustine.
Dropped Pin
near Guana River Wildlife Management Area, Florida
https://goo.gl/maps/AEeBvWyAVJH2
Hope that works. 30.059399,-81.360132
It's adjacent to Deep Creek State Forest.
catherwood
It's been a while since I looked at a map for Roanoke, but it must be a fair distance from the "friends of octave" and over the Baum bridge, plus it might not be a straight line. (Not helpful, sorry)
Guardian
Haarstick wrote::
I'm on the Boston hunt but looking into a running theme between the puzzles. Curious where St. Augustine starts - as in which landmark do you start at and where is it in relation to the Fountain of Youth? North, south, really close, really far, etc? Any help is greatly appreciated!
I’ve identified several common themes, and each seems to be in 11 of the 12 solutions. Baseball, the name Lincoln, and the year 1976 are the most obvious. The Image 6/Verse 9 solution of the FOY doesn’t seem to have either baseball *or* Lincoln, which is one of seveeral reasons I seriously doubt the solve. Lincoln doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the Houston solution, and I can’t find a connection to 1976 in San Francisco.
Haarstick
MrSeabass wrote::
Ummmmm... care to list where these references show up in each solve? Some of these cities have no relevance to all 3 items, let alone just one.
Curious to hear more about the baseball connection. Could have a tie to casque location for Image 11/Verse 3 (Boston).
gManTexas
Guardian wrote::
I’ve identified several common themes, and each seems to be in 11 of the 12 solutions. Baseball, the name Lincoln, and the year 1976 are the most obvious. The Image 6/Verse 9 solution of the FOY doesn’t seem to have either baseball *or* Lincoln, which is one of seveeral reasons I seriously doubt the solve. Lincoln doesn’t seem to be anywhere near the Houston solution, and I can’t find a connection to 1976 in San Francisco.
This is a bit over zealous. Baseball and Lincoln and the Bicentennial are all such common themes that they could apply to anywhere.
However, to answer your question, there was a huge event in SF in 1976 because of the double bicentennial. There is also the Bicentennial Grove in Golden Gate Park.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/thetake/art ... 318955.php
anus905
burnstyle wrote::
The st Augustine painting doesn't have a defined landmark that anyone has found yet.
It has iimage matches, and a map... But they are all contained to the fountain of youth.
this isnt true...and he knows this isnt true because i told him! lol
the avenue of palms (now live oaks) is referenced in the painting via the rock and palm without a shadow...it has no shadow because at the time when the seal from which the rock and palm were used as the seal of Florida...there was a storm that caused the palms to freeze and die, at which point they were replaced by live oaks.
this is reinforced in the san fran puzzle when you pass Treasure Island (which is a hint for the Charleston puzzle)...Treasure Island has the Avenue of Palms on it...
anus905
also...the tail of the flag is the road you would take from St Aug to Tallahassee...from the FOY to Mounds Archeological Park (following the path of the Conquistadors, as they moved further inward into America)...and explaining why the Conquistador is standing on a mound...
so that's three things right there...
davinci4
burnstyle wrote::
The st Augustine painting doesn't have a defined landmark that anyone has found yet.
It has iimage matches, and a map... But they are all contained to the fountain of youth.
Has anyone explored the possibility that the rock in the painting may be one of the edges of the planetarium wall? They share a similar shape. The “tall tree” could be in the foreground or background at the burial site if you are standing from the correct perspective.
anus905
the face is the shape of the inlet where FOY is located, albeit it has been changed as a result of hurricanes and erosion since 1981...you can still tell.
anus905
see the right side of where st aug is highlighted, that little white tip (not highlighted would be the nose)...look at an older map.
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/St.+Au ... 81.3124341
burnstyle
anus905 wrote::
the avenue of palms (now live oaks) is referenced in the painting via the rock and palm without a shadow...it has no shadow because at the time when the seal from which the rock and palm were used as the seal of Florida...there was a storm that caused the palms to freeze and die, at which point they were replaced by live oaks.
...
So... Just for the record everyone.
The avenue of the palms was a walkway inside the park in the late 1800's early 1900's when the FOY was a botanical garden, and before it had any real historical significance.
It was not magnolia avenue.
Magnolia avenue was never lined with palms. It was lined with magnolia trees a hundred years ago (I think... I'm not sure of the time frame) they did die, but I think it was due to disease... I would have to look it up to be sure.
The only freeze that I know of which killed trees affected fruit trees... and that was in the 90's I think. Its why you don't hear about Florida oranges anymore... all the trees died.
Palm trees are not killed by freeze, if they were there would be no palm trees in the northern states.
This information doesn't really affect josh's solve any, but it's food for thought.
Josh told me about all of this when we met... I wasn't sure about the avenue of the palms then so I just agreed with him. Sorry.
GA_Arsenal01
Hey Burnstyle. I have a couple of questions for you. I know you may have had this question one million times. What is the definitive, 100%, Ah ha that this is FOY or St. Augustine? And hold a sec before you blast me. I know there is a lot more evidence pointing to St. Augustine. Believe me when I say. Both me and my wife have spent countless hours researching and scanning the picture. Just saying we’ve been done the rabbit hole a time or two. And we are obsessed. But we can’t excuse all of the other images in the picture that point to other cities and even other places within St. Augustine itself. How can we just explain these away? It seems that in every puzzle, there were double meanings to everything. I would like to share a few things with you and bounce some ideas off of you and see what everyone thinks. I’m not here to try to change any of The communities mind. But maybe just offer an alternative thought on 6-9.
Again I am not here to “piss” on anyone’s solve or theory’s. We respect all the years put in on these puzzles. Just sometimes fresh eyes see new things. And I would hope that some of the OG’s would unstand that. Not trying to get “Dambalaed” here. LOL! Just want to solve these damn puzzles so I can start going to bed at a decent hour again. Let me know what you think!
anus905
longitude latitude, the face being the inlet to the matananzas mainly.
anus905
yes my bad, the magnolias (not palms) died in the year that the palm/rock seal was used as the seal of florida, and were replaced with live oaks...doesnt change anything just a mistake of explaining, been a while since i worked on st aug.
burnstyle
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
100%, Ah ha that this is FOY or St. Augustine?
The Ah-ha moment that St. Aug is the correct city? For me (in the verse at least) it is "the first chapter"
That's an odd and unique sort of phrase to describe a place, and it is practically the motto of the FOY. It is plastered everywhere.
When you say "But we can’t excuse all of the other images in the picture that point to other cities and even other places within St. Augustine itself" what images in the painting are you referring to?
This hunt causes people to take their theories unnecessarily personal for some reason. Some hunters act like any presented opinion that doesn't fall in line with their theory is a personal attack on them, and they respond by attacking who ever made the comment. Just ignore it. Any theory is as good as any other until someone digs up a casque. Feel free to post your ideas here, or shoot me a message if you want.
gManTexas
burnstyle wrote::
This hunt causes people to take their theories unnecessarily personal for some reason. Some hunters act like any presented opinion that doesn't fall in line with their theory is a personal attack on them, and they respond by attacking who ever made the comment. Just ignore it. Any theory is as good as any other until someone digs up a casque. Feel free to post your ideas here, or shoot me a message if you want.
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
Any theory is as good as any other until someone digs up a casque.
This sounds good in theory, but in actual fact, nothing could be further from the truth. It suggests that the solutions are random and arbitrary, which is simply not the case, IMO. This isn't Orwell's "Animal Farm". It's Darwin's "On the Origin of Species".*
* Come to think of it, it is "Animal Farm". But you have to read the whole book.
WhiteRabbit
burnstyle wrote::
This hunt causes people to take their theories unnecessarily personal for some reason. Some hunters act like any presented opinion that doesn't fall in line with their theory is a personal attack on them
This is very true, but it's a general human trait. Once people have adopted an idea, it becomes part of them, and they react to any attempt to change it like an assault.
gManTexas
WhiteRabbit wrote::
This is very true, but it's a general human trait. Once people have adopted an idea, it becomes part of them, and they react to any attempt to change it like an assault.
Not all people. Let's not make sweeping generalizations.
GA_Arsenal01
Erpobdelliforme wrote::
This sounds good in theory, but in actual fact, nothing could be further from the truth. It suggests that the solutions are random and arbitrary, which is simply not the case, IMO. This isn't Orwell's "Animal Farm". It's Darwin's "On the Origin of Species".*
* Come to think of it, it is "Animal Farm". But you have to read the whole book.
Interesting. Never heard anything about tying a particular piece of literature to this puzzle. Please elaborate.
anus905
*smacks head* there are multiple literary references in this puzzle...more than in any other...
WhiteRabbit
gManTexas wrote::
Not all people. Let's not make sweeping generalizations.
It's just an idea I've read about before, and which I find interesting. Not a criticism; just an observation about the human condition.
For example, here's a study from a couple of years ago showing the areas of the brain that flare up when political beliefs are challenged.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... ange-minds
anus905
this one and charleston have the most literary refs.
gManTexas
WhiteRabbit wrote::
It's just an idea I've read about before, and which I find interesting. Not a criticism; just an observation about the human condition.
For example, here's a study from a couple of years ago showing the areas of the brain that flare up when political beliefs are challenged.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... ange-minds
I can get behind the general statement. I've even bemoaned this fact on this forum, or about this forum. Some people latch on to a particular puzzle or location and are very quick to criticize anything that doesn't fit their world view.
It is completely counterproductive to the goals of solving these.
GA_Arsenal01
burnstyle wrote::
The Ah-ha moment that St. Aug is the correct city? For me (in the verse at least) it is "the first chapter"
That's an odd and unique sort of phrase to describe a place, and it is practically the motto of the FOY. It is plastered everywhere.
When you say "But we can’t excuse all of the other images in the picture that point to other cities and even other places within St. Augustine itself" what images in the painting are you referring to?
This hunt causes people to take their theories unnecessarily personal for some reason. Some hunters act like any presented opinion that doesn't fall in line with their theory is a personal attack on them, and they respond by attacking who ever made the comment. Just ignore it. Any theory is as good as any other until someone digs up a casque. Feel free to post your ideas here, or shoot me a message if you want.
This is very true. Thats why I messaged Dambala when all that was going on and tried to explain to him that some of these guys have been searching for these casque for their entire lives. And some of the methods he brought to the table scare them. Some searchers have already mentally claimed the prize. And anything that counterproductive to that angers them. Not to mention the fact that any new discoveries within the puzzles may actually lead to something, “gives some, heart palpitations” but to answer your question.
What other images am I referring to?
Man! There is so much in this picture. I think that goes without saying. It’s truly maddening. But the two main images we see and keep repeating thru out the image are:
1. The Number 300 is plastered throughout the image. Most notably twice at the head or top of what we are calling the, “Turtle Mound”( Where the Conquistador is sitting on the Spanish Mare). I have an idea of what the 300 is referring to. Have you noticed and what do you think?
2. The Number 24 is also everywhere. Most notably and undeniably clear and deliberately placed. Right smack dab in the middle of the “Palm by The Rock” Have you noticed and what do you think?
If you know what these are then you know what I’m getting at..... And what area I’m hinting at. But wait. Cause there’s still a lot of images that point to St. Augustine but not necessarily the FOY. And images pointing to Tallahassee( and I’m not talking about the “Circle Star” on the Flag representing Tally.)
But let me add this. Your from this area? Correct? You grew up in St. Augustine. You know that there are a few things that if this is 100% St. Augustine have to be represented in some way is this puzzle. The Lighthouse( One if the oldest and the second tallest in the US only behind Daytona which is the tallest.) Castillo de San Marcos? Cannonballs? Maybe? But so much of the history of not only St. Augustine but for the entire State of Florida dealt with the Fort.These two things alone cannot be denied if you’ve been to St. Augustine. You see and learn about these two things. Bridge of Lions? (The Half Lion Face) yeah I’ll give you that one. Side note( why isn’t that more commented on? There is something spelled out in his cheek by the way. I think it says,” E. SIDE”) but just saying. Find those connections and it will put it to bed for me on any other area. Just saying what do you think? Also I want to bounce a few more images found and never commented on. Maybe it will help someone have a Ah Ha!
GA_Arsenal01
anus905 wrote::
this one and charleston have the most literary refs.
Really! I knew about Charleston but not 6-9. What literary references are there? And I may can offer you some assistance with your Tally theory. I’m currently in Tallahassee tracking a clue. And been on it trying to prove or disprove the Tally connection. So far I do think it is connected but Maybe not buried here. But definitely connected.
WhiteRabbit
There's a myth about this place that anyone who's been here more than a few months is implacably entrenched in old ideas and refuses to look at anything new.
That's really not true. We'd love some new ideas. It's just that no-one ever shows us any new ideas that are anything like as good as the old ideas.
It's been said many times; the verse for FOY is as good as it gets. Practically everything in it is a quote from a sign there, or a clear reference to something that is/was there. The image has a glaring picture of Ponce de Leon, and the introduction talks about FOY and conquistadors. It's going to be very difficult to come up with anything more convincing, no matter how many wolves you can see in the pic.
GA_Arsenal01
WhiteRabbit wrote::
There's a myth about this place that anyone who's been here more than a few months is implacably entrenched in old ideas and refuses to look at anything new.
That's really not true. We'd love some new ideas. It's just that no-one ever shows us any new ideas that are anything like as good as the old ideas.
It's been said many times; the verse for FOY is as good as it gets. Practically everything in it is a quote from a sign there, or a clear reference to something that is/was there. The image has a glaring picture of Ponce de Leon, and the introduction talks about FOY and conquistadors. It's going to be very difficult to come up with anything more convincing, no matter how many wolves you can see in the pic.
Please elaborate more on the Ponce picture and introduction. What are you referring to?
GA_Arsenal01
I actually don’t see wolves. But a boatload of 24’s.
burnstyle
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
Please elaborate more on the Ponce picture and introduction. What are you referring to?
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
I actually don’t see wolves. But a boatload of 24’s.
You should read the book. There is more to the puzzle than just a painting and a poem.
Seriously read it... it's not bad.
was that you who sent me a picture... maybe on facebook, of a bunch of numbers hidden in the painting?
GA_Arsenal01
burnstyle wrote::
You should read the book. There is more to the puzzle than just a painting and a poem.
Seriously read it... it's not bad.
was that you who sent me a picture... maybe on facebook, of a bunch of numbers hidden in the painting?
Ok will do. Maybe it will tie something else together I’m on in St. Augustine.
No I didn’t contact you on Facebook. Wasn’t me. Just jumped on the thread.
GA_Arsenal01
But there are a lot of number in the painting. Also I have been playing with the painting with photoshop. And there are somethings hidden. Phrases, notes, long form coordinates, symbols and the mysterious circles with x’s. At least it looks likes. Lol. It kinda overwhelming.
GA_Arsenal01
But wasn’t there an interview with BP stating that the story doesn’t add any extra clues to the puzzles. Didn’t he state that you are able to figure them out with just the poem and painting.
burnstyle
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
But wasn’t there an interview with BP stating that the story doesn’t add any extra clues to the puzzles. Didn’t he state that you are able to figure them out with just the poem and painting.
He said you didn't NEED the rest of the book to solve the puzzles. He never said it wouldn't add any value, as far as I know.
GA_Arsenal01
burnstyle wrote::
He said you didn't NEED the rest of the book to solve the puzzles. He never said it wouldn't add any value, as far as I know.
Ok I’ll continue the read tonight. Read some. Then saw the post about it and stopped.
But what about my questions to you about what I’ve observed. The points about it being St. Augustine?
burnstyle
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
Man! There is so much in this picture. I think that goes without saying. It’s truly maddening. But the two main images we see and keep repeating thru out the image are:
1. The Number 300 is plastered throughout the image. Most notably twice at the head or top of what we are calling the, “Turtle Mound”( Where the Conquistador is sitting on the Spanish Mare). I have an idea of what the 300 is referring to. Have you noticed and what do you think?
2. The Number 24 is also everywhere. Most notably and undeniably clear and deliberately placed. Right smack dab in the middle of the “Palm by The Rock” Have you noticed and what do you think?
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
But let me add this. Your from this area? Correct? You grew up in St. Augustine.
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
You know that there are a few things that if this is 100% St. Augustine have to be represented in some way is this puzzle. The Lighthouse( One if the oldest and the second tallest in the US only behind Daytona which is the tallest.) Castillo de San Marcos? Cannonballs? Maybe? But so much of the history of not only St. Augustine but for the entire State of Florida dealt with the Fort.These two things alone cannot be denied if you’ve been to St. Augustine.
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
You see and learn about these two things. Bridge of Lions? (The Half Lion Face) yeah I’ll give you that one. Side note( why isn’t that more commented on? There is something spelled out in his cheek by the way. I think it says,” E. SIDE”) but just saying. Find those connections and it will put it to bed for me on any other area. Just saying what do you think? Also I want to bounce a few more images found and never commented on. Maybe it will help someone have a Ah Ha!
It's been pointed out before. The 'numbers hidden in the puzzle' theory isn't really new, but I have never seen anyone present it in a way that adds any value to the puzzle. It's generally presented as groundbreaking... but then whoever posted it can't explain why it is groundbreaking. some of the numbers presented obviously arent numbers too... just brush strokes or pencil marks... some were printing artifacts.
It's hard to comment on yours specifically because I can't what you see. Shoot me an image showing your numbers.
Yes I did.
I can deny that. Those things don't need to be in the painting just because a casque is in st Augustine, if those things don't add to the solution in any way. in the same way that the Empire State Building isn't in the new york painting, the Roanoke star isn't in the roanoke painting, and severe depression isn't depicted in the Milwaukee painting. Those are all major features in their respective cities... but they don't need to be in the painting.
Though, whether or not the Fort is actually in the painting can be debated.
If the verse doesn't put to bed any other locations, then none of that will... and maybe that's a good thing. Keep working on your theory, and bouce your images around. New ideas are generally helpful in some way.
WhiteRabbit
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
Please elaborate more on the Ponce picture and introduction. What are you referring to?
...what I was referring to here was this comment on p30 of the
introduction
...
For slow centuries, the exotic Dracs and Fadas from the Riviera had sported and dozed on the beaches of newfound Florida. Perhaps the metal clashing landfall of the Conquistadores took them by surprise, and they fled without taking time to disenchant their Fountain of Youth...
...and in Image 6 we then see a picture of the Conquistadore Ponce de Leon, who appears at FOY.
(He's also mentioned in a sign which includes "silver salt", quoted in the verse, and a reference to a casque.)
drunknerds
My issue with Dambala wasn’t his theories, but that he sometimes escalated disagreements into cursing and name calling
Been talking to him privately though, because I am intrigued by his theories. Nice enough guy
anus905
the fort isnt in the painting but you are sent to the fort via the verse.
MrBackstop
anus905 wrote::
the fort isnt in the painting but you are sent to the fort via the verse.
Oh but it is in the image. The iceberg is Castillo de San Marcos and the Palm tree without the shadow is the Ravelin.
drunknerds
Also, I enjoyed Burnstyle's classic 1-2-3 joke
GA_Arsenal01
Hey Burnstyle, Riddle me this? What is this creepy little face thatis peeking out here. I don’t hear much commented on about it. Do you see it and what do you think? Don’t know what it is but it’s creepy. It appears to be the left side of a child’s face to me. Maybe a drawing?
GA_Arsenal01
Hey folks I’m trying to bounce a few images off the community. Having trouble. Any help?
anus905
you have to give a better description of WHERE in the image it is located.
drunknerds
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
Hey folks I’m trying to bounce a few images off the community. Having trouble. Any help?
Like technically?
On PC, pull up the image. Right click and select "copy image to clipboard." Or hit ctrl+ print screen, which copies your screen to the clipboard.
Open MS paint, ctrl + V, to paste the image. Then select "select" and click drag to outline it. Hit crop to crop. Then save it Go to imgur.com, make a account, hit upload, get the file and upload it. Then select the code that is for "bbcode"
Paste that directly into your post and it should pop into the thread.
That's the easiest way. Thanks for asking! I have been glib at points, so feel free to ask for clarification. Looking forward to seeing your images!
GA_Arsenal01
Ok thanks Drunknerd. I’ll get on here shortly and attempt it.
The area is right under where the jewel is displayed. If you rotate the image counter clockwise. It looks right at you. The left side of a child’s face. It looks to be a pencil drawing. Almost like a precious moments doll. Take a look.
anus905
i def see what youre talking about, under the pigeon, to the right of the peacock, looks like a baby with encephalus lol
burnstyle
He's talking about what people affectionately call the 'child eater'.
I don't really have an answer for that.
pareidolia maybe?
GA_Arsenal01
I heard that once. Childeater of Bern. But no one ever elaborated. But because of Anus905’s post. Arthur Rackman may be a clue. To a lot of the images. Finding a lot of similarities between his illustrations and the pictures.
GA_Arsenal01
Also there are Three white Peacocks near the same area. (I know Burnstyle) they are everywhere over that park. Not to be named. LOL. No completely sold yet. But close. I also believe I’ve found the BOL in the painting. With two African Kitty Cats present. Have you seen and what do you think?
anus905
froud sort of copied (was inspired by) rackham's style. like preiss was inspired by masquerade rietvoort and froud. maybe also preppy handbook, which I'm not familiar with.
anus905
ohhh just found something new!
not only does the tail of the flag act as the road from St Augustine to Tallahassee...taking us from the FOY to the Mounds Archaeological Park...
the purple circle with the red square seems to be a reference to the zero mile marker at the end of the Spanish trail (hence why it's overlayed over shape of San Marcos).
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/old ... -milestone
this means its not only taking us to Tallahassee, but all the way to San Diego:
(click on map in above link).
anus905
ehhh I also figured out the baby...not the child eater...though that did bring me to the history of col bell haha ("the ogre").
its a reference to the shrine of Our Lady De La Leche, and the statue of mary nursing baby jesus.
also where the giant cross sits.
anus905
I mean, it could plausibly connect to both. but mainly its baby jesus.
anus905
red dot in circle, seem to represent a bullseye...which looks like it leads us to the lighthouse.
anus905
the fact that its red and purple seems to denote this:
hxxp://www.staugustinebarberton.org/sai ... d-of-arms/
(there is also a shield upside down in the rocks)
GA_Arsenal01
Ok whewww.
Thanks Anus905. Definitely makes sense. But I have one ?. Would he have put all the definitive clues behind admissions? I don’t think so. Also we took some time to talk to an artist today. He showed me the way image 6 was painted. From four different directions. The Child is also two other scenes. It crazy. There is also a third peacock in the middle.
WhiteRabbit
GA_Arsenal01 wrote::
The Child is also two other scenes. It crazy. There is also a third peacock in the middle.
So, you're seeing lots of faces in the images, people and animals...?
Look - it's your imagination. Been there done that, other treasure hunt books, faces everywhere. There's a reason people always see faces, not tractors or dandelions...it's because the brain is hard-wired to see faces. You already know this.
hxxp://www.bbc.com/future/story/2014073 ... in-objects
You're getting as bad as Dambala with his wolf-pack now. Forget faces in treasure-hunt books already ppl. They're not intentional and they're not useful.
anus905
actually there are a bunch of animals. the st aug image is based on a poster of animals all drawn together (like in the rocks).
there is a crocodile, alligator, peacock (and peacock wing from stone image of peacock), pigeon, whale shark & marlin
WhiteRabbit
Well OK, at least you're seeing a variety of species and not just a bunch of the same ones, so maybe I'll let that go...
anus905
the alligator skull appears exactly how its displayed on a board in FOY, and wing on cheek is from the stone peacock right inside entrance of FOY (as soon as you exit admissions booth).
by behind admissions, do you mean inside the FOY? the treasure is not in the FOY. ill tell you that much.
anus905
baby jesus in rocks and cross is largest flower.
anus905
looks like baby is holding something...thoughts?
Erpobdelliforme
Unknown:
They're not intentional and they're not useful.
I wouldn't say that exactly WR. If you are seeing things that aren't there, it's a good indication that it's time to take a break, or quit the puzzle entirely and find something else to do. Think of it as a sobriety test for the mind.
GA_Arsenal01
Thanks Anus and Renovator. WR I believe whatever “I SEE” is very helpful to me. And hopefully it’s helpful to someone else. I absolutely see what I see. And believe me I’ve checked and re checked my optics before I post anything. Because of people like you. At least I’m throwing new stuff out there and trying to help solve this puzzle. I’m sorry that you aren’t finding new stuff. Far from Dambala. But his method does help. But there are at least 4 peacocks represented in the picture. There are also skulls and ghost. Also two lions faces. Bridge of Lions. Two parrots on the left side. @Anus905 where do you see the baby holding something. Elaborate.
GA_Arsenal01
MrSeabass wrote::
Prove it because I don't see shit.
As soon as I figure out how to post pictures here. I will post everything I see. So the autopsy can begin.
Plus Don’t forget to go to Dambala’s site and purchase the Secret Glasses. It helps you see what we see. Lol. Just jokes.
GA_Arsenal01
Thanks? I think?
As soon as I get some screen time I will comply. Mr. Seabass sir!
burnstyle
anus905 wrote::
the alligator skull appears exactly how its displayed on a board in FOY, and wing on cheek is from the stone peacock right inside entrance of FOY (as soon as you exit admissions booth).
by behind admissions, do you mean inside the FOY? the treasure is not in the FOY. ill tell you that much.
Josh... I told you while you were actually standing in front of those things...
Both of them are quite new.
The skull board is at best 5 or 6 years old.
maltedfalcon
burnstyle wrote::
Josh... I told you while you were actually standing in front of those things...
Both of them are quite new.
The skull board is at best 5 or 6 years old.
He is not going to let facts get in the way of a good solution!
anus905
how can the stone peacock be "new" when its exactly referenced in the image...
anus905
...moved maybe...but Preiss clearly saw it! otherwise it wouldn't be in the painting!
Doghousereiley
Goldengate wrote::
stunning that for someone who claims to be the master of solving clues — he can't take the hint.
MrBackstop
Burnstyle, the entrance to the park at San Marco and Williams, is the small billboard sign out there changed yearly, bi-yearly,...or what. I've been looking at the older photos and seeing different photos signs out there. What can you tell me?
burnstyle
MrBackstop wrote::
Burnstyle, the entrance to the park at San Marco and Williams, is the small billboard sign out there changed yearly, bi-yearly,...or what. I've been looking at the older photos and seeing different photos signs out there. What can you tell me?
It's pretty random.
I can only think of 4 or so diffrent ones in the last 20
years.
dizalot
someone pointed out the parrots in Image 6 and once I saw them I saw a cartoon animal also. Its outlined in the pic I am attaching. It looks so familiar but I can't place it. Definitely not Disney. I haven't seen this posted before so I thought I'd share and maybe someone else might recognize it or have a thought. I hope this helps.
burnstyle
You are probably thinking of Ziggy
Or bone
maltedfalcon
Burnstyle one of the hosts of the podcast lives there.
Harley Quinn
premiernc wrote::
Hey guys, I'm new to The Secret stuff but have found some interesting info in St. Augustine.
Is there anyone here that lives in St. Augustine?
I live in St Augustine also
burnstyle
premiernc wrote::
Hey guys, I'm new to The Secret stuff but have found some interesting info in St. Augustine.
Is there anyone here that lives in St. Augustine?
Yes, I live in St Augustine.
Choice
Is there an Image 6 page?
Mister EZ
Choice wrote::
Is there an Image 6 page?
Sort of...it gets no lubbin.
Started in 2003:
hxxp://quest4treasure.co.uk/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=759