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The forum discussions involve users analyzing images to identify hidden state shapes or city maps within them. Users like GPKing, neVar, and catherwood contribute by suggesting landmarks and locations like Fort Sumter and Roanoke Island in specific images. There is praise for neVar's graphic skills, with requests for overlays of Michigan and Pennsylvania in certain pictures. However, users like antiquiter and DocLove express doubts about the accuracy of the identified shapes and caution against forcing interpretations onto random shapes. GPKing acknowledges the possibility of seeing patterns where there may not be any. The discussions also touch on details like the Statue of Liberty's face or a woman near a waterfall, with suggestions for locations like Idaho, New York, Pittsburgh, and Niagara Falls in Canada. Users debate the significance of these details and discuss the concept of "read herrings." In another thread, users Johann and maltedfalcon discuss aligning a map with geographical features, trying different possibilities to find the correct match. TheTornado requests an outline of Tennessee next to a wave in a picture, while Jimerson points out a possible resemblance of a sand dune to New Jersey. Despite discussions about other states, Wilhouse confirms that the casque is in Houston. Overall, the discussions involve a mix of enthusiasm, skepticism, and appreciation for decoding hidden images within the pictures and identifying possible locations.

GPKing

It seems that there may be a hidden state shapes or city maps in each picture, along with the outlines of local landmarks. Maybe we should start compiling some of these? Pic 1 - Outline of lake in Golden Gate Park? Pic 2 - City map of Charleston Pic 3 - Pic 4 - Map out Ohio in lower left corner Pic 5 - Reversed map of Illinois on left side of head ( string holding earflap included ) ? Pic 6 - Map of west coast of Florida on right side of rock Pic 7 - Pic 8 - Map of Nevada on left side at base of closest pillar Pic 9 - Pic 10 - Pic 11 - Pic 12 - Oultine of Idaho in two panes behind bird Trees, edges and outlines seem to contain these shapes. Also, the shapes seem to be stylized a bit, but still are stongly suggestive. Can any others be found?


neVar

P2 - Fort Sumter P6 - Florda P5 - Illinois P8 - Nevada P12 - Idaho


catherwood

Image 3 has Roanoke Island (north carolina) in the stones to the right of the armor.


GPKing

Very nice work with the graphics, neVar.


antiquiter

hey, good work neVar. Can you also try this for me? Overlay an image of Michigan and the surrounding Great Lakes over the clouds in picture 6 that you also put Florida on. I made mention of this in the Image 6 thread if you don't know where I'm going with this. Also, please do an overlay of Pennsylvania on the bottom right window base in Image 3 (armor one) Thank you so much, you are the tech. wizard among us.


wilhouse

Ok, neVar, this one is a tough one. Can you take Image 8, delete out the posts, animals and the djinn and their shadows (ie, make these items the color of the surrounding floor) and leave ONLY the floor and the hills? you are truly the graphics wizard. thx wilhouse


frishkie

I posted this in Image 3, as well.  The hook under the knight's right arm in Image 3 looks a lot like Cape Cod.


neVar

catherwood: ... and a good picture of the island was found at: hxxp://www.roanokeisland.net/map_ri.htm antiquiter: ... I had a bit of a problem finding that spot you mentioned: wilhouse:  (some extrapolation was required) frishkie: Your comments are very kind. Thank you.  8)


antiquiter

Thankyou friend, this pretty much busts my thought on Pennsylvania. Though..why would the artist intentionally make the stone shape unequal to it's couterpart on the other side? Not even an architect would be that stupid, so I still believe it holds relevance, though maybe in regards to the wall closer to the edge of the picture and not my idea. But I can't seem to fit a landmass in it's place. As for the Michigan thing, well, I can still see it somewhat, but maybe that's just me. All Hail neVar, Master of Imaging!!!  ;)


DocLove

im sorry to say but i dont agree with some of these, i mean you can but a shape or piece of any thing in any place of the pictures and if you look at the ohio one its not as obvious as what you are making it ..... but thats just my opinion D


fox

must concur with DocLove here.  I am a master at trying to make things fit to fit my theory.  I think some of these are just that.  I think they will be exact (ie...the coast of Charleston w/ the rivers).  The Roanoke looks pretty good to me but not exact.  Keep up the good work nevar....


GPKing

I agree that we can force ourselves to see almost anything in some of these random shapes. For instance, instead of Idaho in picture 12, it could be a picture of New York State rotated 90 degrees, without Long Island. I do think some of the pictures have images hidden in them, but not all.  Just like some pictures have latitude and longitude numbers in them. I do not think that puzzle's creators would put the exact same type of clues in each picture. It is a good idea, though, to collect some of these images so that they can be better referenced in the discussions.


maltedfalcon

I don't know Idaho seems to fit alot neater then NY, BTW did anybody mention idaho is called the Gem state?


The_Duck

Unknown: I agree that we can force ourselves to see almost anything in some of these random shapes. Being new to this board, I didn't want to step on any toes at the time, but I certainly have to support the last couple of posts. Some of the stuff that people are seeing in these are a real stretch. If I was putting a clue of that sort into a picture the match would be perfect, not close, not similar to, perfect. I also agree that the same type of clue is not liekly to be used too many times over. There is certainly no problem looking for them but unless they are "perfect" matches I would argue that you have created your own read herrings.


The_Duck

I hate when I don't check before sending something... the errors drive me crazy later. But I'll call the "read herring" part a pun to try to get out of one of them.


maltedfalcon

What you are saying could very well be true. on the other hand, BP has demostrated a fondness for red herrings also, The Chicago verse with congress and a sitting "L" fit Washington DC neatly. The L Bell in the cleveland picture and the keystone sure seemed like it was pointing to the liberty bell in philadelphia, PA. So when the most prominent feature in a pix is the face of the statue of Liberty, I am really hesitant to take it at (pardon me for this...) "face value" . So if Pix12 isn't New York, where else could it be pointing to? still - I could be totally wrong here.


cthree

i tend to agree falcon.


fox

well, if falcon has a point,  (I cant remember who) someone posted some pretty interesting ideas about this possibly being in Pittsburgh PA.  I also still like V10 pointing to Pitt.


The_Duck

Unknown: So when the most prominent feature in a pix is the face of the statue of Liberty, I am really hesitant to take it at (pardon me for this...) "face value" . So if Pix12 isn't New York, where else could it be pointing to? Well as a case for reading into something based on a persons own experience I offer the following: The woman in the picture is floating in the air around the mist of what most see as a wave. But if you look closely at the blue part of the waves curl it can also be viewed as a section of land. This would mean it isn't a wave, it is a water-fall. Now if I look at the land mass (blue curl) it has the distinct shape of a Buffalo. With a Buffalo on the right of a waterfall and a woman floating in the mist (a "maid of the mist" let's say), I would be lead to Niagara Falls. Now the maiden in white might also be seen as a bride, thus she would be standing in front of the "Bridal Veil" or American falls. The only way we can have that view is from the Canadian side of the river at Niagara Falls Ontario. We now have the elusive Canadian location. Or not  :)


johann

In pic 9, the gnome (strange-nosed man), please look at the edge of his white shirt (the edge on his left).  Turn the pic a little counter-clockwise and look at the outside edge.  Is it my wishful thinking or does it resemble the line of the Mississippi at St. Louis (and above and below St. Louis)? I need opinions to counter or confirm what I want to find. --Johann


frishkie

Johann, I saw the eastern state line, too, but like you I'm not sure whether I'm seeing what is there or what I want to see.


maltedfalcon

I don't see it, have I got the scale wrong?


johann

maltedfalcon--  You do have it correct, but the map needs to be moved down a bit so that the St. Louis bulge is parallel to the collar's bulge (its thicker part along the edge).  Perhaps my "match" is a reach.


maltedfalcon

like this?  the one part matches nicely but the rest doesn't


johann

maltedfalcon--  You're right.  It doesn't work very well. Thank you for your effort with the computer magic.


maltedfalcon

Still thats not to say it isn't correct. time will tell. and the only way to beat these is to try each possibility and see what fits.


maltedfalcon

Posted for Wilhouse. Picture 8 vs Texas


TheTornado

Nice work on the graphics neVar.  Can you put an outline of Tennessee next to the wave in pic 12?  That was my first thought for the state in that picture.


jimerson

Hello, Newbie here. May have been mentioned here already, but FWIW the yellow part of the sand dune on the very right side of Image 8 appears to be a reversed outline of New Jersey.


wilhouse

hey jim, that might be true, but BP confirmed this casque was in Houston. regards and keep plugging wilhouse