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The forum discussion revolves around speculations on the motives of the jewel carriers in hiding treasures and how they might have passed down the knowledge of their locations. Users explore potential inspirations behind the hiding spots, such as historical events and themes like romantic ideals and wisdom. There is contemplation on the changing physical landscapes and mental perspectives over time, impacting the search for the jewels. Users analyze potential trends and rethink search strategies based on the speculated motivations of the Fair Folk. The discussion also focuses on potential locations of hidden casques in cities like Cleveland and Chicago, with users speculating on the preferences of mythical beings for certain landmarks and inventions in these cities. Detailed analyses of imagery and symbolism, connections to electricity, windmills, and ancient civilizations are discussed. The role of artists and historical figures in potentially guiding the search for the hidden casques is also touched upon. Overall, participants are engaged in deciphering clues and sharing creative interpretations to uncover the mysteries of these hidden treasures.

erexere

I thought a discussion might be had that considers what each of the jewel carriers mightve had in mind when they picked their hiding spots. Also, correct me if I have the wrong idea, does it make sense that those Fair Folk who hid jewels, assuming they're not immortal, passed down the knowledge of where the jewels were hidden to the more modern counterparts/descendents? It seems to me that Preiss' verses and paintings are very new and the casques might utilize even the most current (1980ish) points of reference, while in some cases use an older reference. This is all "what if" thinking. We know Cleveland uses Euclid, Bell-Flower or Liberty for good concrere road locators, and now we'd have to negotiate such a change as MLK taking the place of Liberty. I wonder if some locations back in 1982 offered Preiss a choice of using a historic name in place of a then current naming. I was recently thinking the Boston location had something to do with thinking if Thucydides as being "homeless". A pet theory I'll discuss later in the V3 thread. My point being it seems sensible that Preiss might make a concious effort to stage a location based on the Fair Folk being attracted to the topic of Homelessness. I have a similar assosciation to consider with respect to V10 which might involve 'siwash', a roughing it in the outdoors motif, relying on a natural shelter like the shadow of a giant tree. We occassionally have these thoughts but dont always know how to figure them into our prospective solution process. Maybe we could analyze them collectively in this thread. Maybe we'll catch hold of a trend and then rethink our prospects.


erexere

Maybe they liked the good things about people so much that they hid jewels based on such inspirations. V11: The Wright Bros. First Flight seems like a great thing to inspire them. "Look! Man learned winged flight! Lets honor that with a jewel inspired by that event." Consider those who helped in the occasion: John T. Daniels and other Coast Guard men. V6: Romantic ideals. The Civil War was ugly, but the effort to make a stand against slavery would be a great thing for Fair Folk to honor. I think they turned their attention to the words of Lincoln and his legacy.


erexere

V7: Learning Lessons. Pearls of Wisdom avail us the opportunity to avoid making big mistakes. Making big mistakes, breaking the law, can result in being sentenced to prison. I think the Fair Folk are depicting a teacher, sage, or wise woman, in order to honor wisdom and maybe the subject of Fairness or perhaps our Justice system, which to them might seem like a great thing. Putting people in prison is largely about being restrained from further misdeeds, making them serve time in reflection, solitude, or rehabilitation.


erexere

Just a note about change. We might grow more and more concerned about how the physical surroundings have changed so much that the chances of finding a casque are slim to none. I think we should also consider how much we ourselves have changed. Our minds are now products of a different era. We have been shaped and influenced by so much that its not without serious effort to see keenly the same perspective that Byron had intended. We have changed.


erexere

Ive been reviewing my thoughts on this topic. What harm is there in taking a moment to ponder the Fair Folk and what they meant by "Goodness first" or for that matter, what do they appreciate about Man that they are willing to reward a select few searchers? I think there's great examples in Cleveland and Chicago. I think it only takes a little imagination to draw a correct conclusion from each of the remaining casque puzzles. Fair Folk loved each site for a reason specific to their origin and past. The Nymphs of Greece loved those beautiful columns and cups. The ogres loved the Chicago art scene and perhaps some manhole covers for playing tiddlywinks on a cold morning green. Im thinking the Hadas appreciated exploration and overcoming obstacles, which is why they might like Man's inventiveness when it comes to clearing ice flow from shipping lanes or fallen timber or snow on roadways by using the plow concept, existing on icebreakers (shy as a wild field flower) or the snowplow. Anyone reading this is thinking, "man stfu with that obtuse stuff..." but maybe nobody has noticed there really aint a whole lot of progress goin on. Tall buildings: I think the Fair Folk appreciated the view. "Good job Man, you've achieved touching the sky and maybe even the Moon." Water towers, cisterns: saving water...imagine that, such a simple jnvention but learning to survive intermittent drought is a huge concept. The train: major infrastructure, moving heavy loads long distances, very cool...but sometimes stinky with those old coal burners. The plane: yeah, Wright Brothers. Footwear: allows greater comfort when walking long distance or control and stability. Let Sole-Man Juneau show the way. (I want to continue, but if I say more I might be in trouble.)


erexere

I was just thinking the Giant, maybe a "stone" Giant, in image 5 was agitated and angry at some point, but once he put on the fancy hat, things like lightning were absorbed by the lightning rods, and musicians living in the castle would sooth him. I really like this playful idea that the Giant is the one "bristling". Electricty or "cold morning" air makes your "bristles" stand up. So bristle would be an inferred word that has dual meaning of agitated and hairs. I get the idea that the Fair Folk loved tricky ideas and hidden things.


erexere

The windmill is an electricity generator. A fence and a fixture both identify with electricity. Chicago's giant really seems to fit a thematic component of the puzzle. I think we have a better chance at understanding the point of each verse when we identify the thinking of the Fair Folk involved.


erexere

My thoughts on Cleveland at the moment have me thinking of Nymphs and a perspective on nudity. Could the location of the casque be hinted at by a bare chest? "Between two cups"...cups as a common reference to a brazier. I find it easy to assume JJP would be down with such a reference as a professional artist.


erexere

The Fair Folk of Old Italy, took to a spot in Boston, the peridot, and supplied a puzzle built around the meaning behind the words "antique, and olivine, and rich." It took me forever to see this for what it is. My thoughts are on the wealth or money of the Florentines such as the Medici who made well on their imports and exports of textiles and banking. The final piece of this puzzle is clear when you find the $ symbol and properly define Thucydides and Xenophon in the setting.