Line 1 The 3 stories of Mitchell is the building stated by Fenix in the podcast that is across from the Salvation Army building on Drummond. Byron Priess clues for line 2 is “The beating of the world” – pull up an English dictionary and look somewhere around “drum” to find the name of a person. Mitchell Builiding is on Drummond Street. as stated by Fenix. drum =beating. world in French =mond. thus Drummond The Mitchell building is one block away from the Legeater Hotel (Mount Stephen) which is located at 1430 1440 Drummond street Three who lived three. You would move toward Mount Royal Park on Drummond. First you pass Boulevard de Maisoneuve named for the founder of Montreal Paul Chomedey de Maisonneuve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Maisonneuve_Boulevard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_de_C ... aisonneuve Then you pass Dr Penfield St. Wilder Penfield was a DR who taught at McGIll University which is a few block away. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilder_Penfield Next is the Sir Willam Osler promenade. Another Montreal Doctor who was associated with McGIll also. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Osler At a distance in space from woman playing harpsichord is next line The Montreal Museum of Fine art on 1308 Sherbrooke is two blocks away from Drummond street to the Souht Southwest. In there art collection on display is a painting of a Woman playing a harpsichord by Emanuel de witte. A virginal is an instrument in the Harpsichord family. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... IETQfIoHh4 https://www.mbam.qc.ca/en/frontpage-art ... -de-witte/ Step On Nature Cast in Copper. In montreal there was sidewalk markers of when and who made the sidewalk. There are only a few left as most of the sidewalks seem to have been recovered. Japanese notes say Think of a Leaf and what a leaf means. The maple leaf is the symbol of Canada. Maybe a generic clue combined with a specific one? hxxp://spacing.ca/montreal/2007/09/18/o ... zXSHlHGybY I believe you go two blocks away from the Museum. Which is to the North Northeast Ascend the 92 steps … two options There are 94 steps at the end of Drummond street. It turns into William Osler Promenade where there is a stair case with 94 steps. Maybe they were redone or priess miscounted. If you go up the stairs at the end of promenade William osler and then go two blocks away from Museum of fine arts to the north northeast, you are on pine street and the corner of Peel street Here is one of a few entrances of Mount Royal Park. Fenix told me that Mont Royal park was a weird park as it had only a few entrances After climbing the grand 200. In Mont Royal park is a long staircase called the Grand Escalier. It has been rebuilt in the past few years https://www.lemontroyal.qc.ca/en/whats- ... e-opened-2 Maybe there was a 86 new steps added to connect two stair cases the Grand Escalier with about 200 and a smaller staircase at the top which bring you to the compass which is the Belvedre Kondiaronk overlook It is a compass it indicators pointing to cardinal point in the city. Pass the compass and reach The foot of the culvert Below the bridge walk 100 paces Luke and Jen Russell visited a in early 2019 They confirmed there is a bridge and culvert as you walk on the Olmstead trail passed the Chalet Now there is a trail the goes to the Southeast by the bridge. They said it gets “messy” after the 100 paces. but there a lot of birches in Mont Royal park If it were me I would be looking for a birch or birch stump with a letter carved into it. Maybe a C for Canada or a H for Holland to the west south west of the Mount Royal Chalet in Mount Royal Park

I reached out to the Montreal archives and received several large pdfs with the history of the Grand Escaliar staircase and about Mount Royal Parks history in general Unfortunately for me it is mostly if not all in French

Doghousereiley wrote:: Byron Priess clues for line 2 is “The beating of the world” – pull up an English dictionary and look somewhere around “drum” to find the name of a person. Mitchell Builiding is on Drummond Street. as stated by Fenix. drum =beating. world in French =mond. thus Drummond On your Japanese hint: When I heard the hint, I did exactly as Preiss instructed and found this item: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/drummond-of-hawthornden This really seems like the kind of person Preiss would know of and put into a puzzle. A writer and poet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Drummond_of_Hawthornden But I couldn't make it work with Milwaukee. But it works quite nicely with your theory!! Good luck with your Grande Escailer research.

This is very interesting. And shows just how fluid the verses can be. Which is good for the people who now have to solve the Milwaukee puzzle using Verse 5. Unless of course that turns out to be the Charleston verse. In which case, they'll need to use Verse 6.

Doghousereiley wrote:: I reached out to the Montreal archives and received several large pdfs with the history of the Grand Escaliar staircase and about Mount Royal Parks history in general Unfortunately for me it is mostly if not all in French I live in Montréal and I speak French. We could work together if you want.

Erpobdelliforme wrote:: In which case, they'll need to use Verse 6. No, everybody knows that's the San Francisco verse... Seriously though, this is definitely an interesting take, and it seems like it's worth further exploration.

I'm also fluent in French and could help with going through some documents if you need help.

Fyi, Fenix has absolutely nothing to do with this.

GoldenMartyr wrote:: Fyi, Fenix has absolutely nothing to do with this. I just quoted him from the podcast to give credit where credit is due. That is all. Please do not read too much into it It is just a theory I have wondered about. It is just shot in the dark. I hoping anyone in Montreal will take a trip to Mount Royal Park and take so photos Thank you.

First of Hi everyone i'm new to the boards but have been hunting this treasure for a few years. I live in Milwaukee and just about everyone assumes this verse is Milwaukee, And I always wondered if it was correct because of the vaguenss of the verse in Picture. So could it have been swapped?

Doghousereiley wrote:: I just quoted him from the podcast to give credit where credit is due. That is all. Please do not read too much into it It is just a theory I have wondered about. It is just shot in the dark. I hoping anyone in Montreal will take a trip to Mount Royal Park and take so photos Hey! So I've been playing with swapping Boston, Montreal, New York and Milwaukee verses around, and I just came up with this exact theory independently. I'd say that's decent confirmation for me haha. While I can't exactly come up with perfect answers to a few of the earlier verse clues, it seems far too coincidental that: A: Drummond is literally Beating of World (if my 15 year old french classes don't fail me. Hadn't even checked the Japanese hints for this verse yet as I'm not too familiar with it, but that's good info as well.) B: The legeater and fleur de lis are on Drummond C: Drummond ends in a staircase of ~92 steps D: Just beyond that is a staircase literally called the Grand Escalier that you can climb. And ya, I just assumed the observatory has to have a compass or something (also saw a picture of those big chrome arrows pointing out points of interest. Compass-y enough for me.) Couldn't find a bridge and culvert which is why I came to the forum to search "Grand Escalier" and was shocked that only one person had proposed this sequence. I don't think this is a shot in the dark. THE Grand Escalier doesn't have to have 200 stairs. Google maps lets you walk around in the area and there are tons of parallel staircases leading up to the observatory that might have had 200 steps. Am I missing something? I don't see any of the 4 verses mentioned as exceptional matches to any of those cities. (Well maybe NYC if Gershwin truly is the Rhapsodic man... but as NYC is my main focus, I really have started to hate verse 10.)

Reading my last night's post this morning, I realize it comes off as another "THIS IS IT" guy. Not intended that way. More so, I'm just surprised this sequence of events hasn't come up before. Both the sequence of verse matches and words used seem to tie in so well and fall in line so naturally. I hadn't really read this verse until I opened google maps and quickly came up with similar realizations to the OP which is why I'm wondering if there's something obvious I've missed that's made people drop this theory in the past. Feels stronger than the usual "Ooo almost an image match. This MUST be the spot!" haha.

I've been working on this pairing for the last few weeks - inspired by a re-listening of the podcast with the Japanese translation of the hints. It's great to know that there are others out there who also agree that Verse 5 is wrong for Montreal. I agree with most of the theories on this thread, with just a couple differences of opinion. "As you walk the beating of the world" is too perfect for Drummond. I find it hard to believe that it would be anything else, especially after the Japanese hint. Promenade Sir William Osler was named in or around 1999, so he couldn't be one of the "three who lived there," but Sherbrooke St. might work, since it was named after John Coape Sherbrooke, the Governor General of British North America from 1816-1818. While I can't find if he lived in Montreal, he did live in Canada. I think that "Step on nature, Cast in Copper" may refer to maple leaves on the pathway between Drummond and Pine Street. Maple leaves are on the back of the Canadian penny, which would make them "cast in copper." (Although, I do like the sidewalk plaques. Those were a great find.) I agree that the casque is somewhere in Mount Royal Park, up the staircases and beyond the Chalet. I hope to make a trip to check it out this summer, unless someone else finds it first. Great work, and Bon Chance!

Drummond is a good theory - Although SF would fit nicely too as it was the home of the Beat culture movement - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_Generation

Yeah- in the translation of the Japanese clues, Preiss said "“The beating of the world” – pull up an English dictionary and look somewhere around “drum” to find the name of a person." So Drummond DEFINITELY fits with this. I'm pretty positive Verse 8 is Montreal also.

GarrettMerz wrote:: Yeah- in the translation of the Japanese clues, Preiss said "“The beating of the world” – pull up an English dictionary and look somewhere around “drum” to find the name of a person." So Drummond DEFINITELY fits with this. I'm pretty positive Verse 8 is Montreal also. I love the idea of Drummond but the whole idea of it came from beating - Drum and world in french - monde . Forest Blight first thought of this years ago. How does that apply to looking for a person in an English dictionary around the word drum? Here is the issue, the rest of the verse clues are absolutely, fucking spot on for Milwaukee!

GoldenMartyr wrote:: I love the idea of Drummond but the whole idea of it came from beating - Drum and world in french - monde . Forest Blight first thought of this years ago. How does that apply to looking for a person in an English dictionary around the word drum? Here is the issue, the rest of the verse clues are absolutely, fucking spot on for Milwaukee! so then why has it not been found weren't you there last week? why couldn't you find it if it is so fucking spot on

Doghousereiley wrote:: weren't you there last week?

You posted it on the secret Facebookpage. What a jackass

Doghousereiley wrote:: You posted it on the secret Facebookpage. What a jackass Tag. You're it!

I have been struggling with the verse-image combination for Montreal. I have been using the accepted pairing because I am relatively new to the hunt, and kept bouncing around too much. My first instincts from the image was that the Mount Royal area would be perfect. The inner city parks all seem to be small and open to the public, so very difficult to hide a treasure, let alone think that someone else would be able to dig it up. The park on the hill seemed like a far more likely place, but I couldn't for the life of me get there using the verse. Because I couldn't get there, I was lost from that point on. The current change is interesting because it seems to lead there nicely. So... I would like to weight in on some image matches pertaining to this area, some of which break from the wiki solution... 1. The stepped top of the frontice matches the edge of the Golden Square Mile, just under Mount Royal. 2. The cross hatching above the stepped edge could possibly be the layout of the cemetary on Mt Royal ( https://goo.gl/maps/mjyacf13Agg1KyaF6 ). Bearing in mind that the casque is not in the cemetary, but it could be a marker? It's quite unusual to have such a cross-hatch pattern, right? 3. Legeater dog on Drummond seems to work for that image match... and the Runes could be W G L (not just W and L as on the wiki. X is Gifu or "G" in futhark runes) and the Greater Western Life building used to be (still is) in that area (if the frontice was a map... as I believe SF and Boston frontices are (interlinked clues!!!)) 4. Maybe the beret is the Mt Royal Park, and on the beret (in the park) is the gem? I would need to fill in some more blanks to be more confident, but there seems to be a seed of some ideas there... XdM

Doghousereiley wrote:: You posted it on the secret Facebookpage. What a jackass Chris- please have you doctor check your meds. Getting aggressive like this with somebody who is not a kind, civil gentleman like myself could end badly for you. The world is a dangerous place. You should never allow being bad at puzzles to impact or potentially impact your well being.

GoldenMartyr wrote:: Chris- please have you doctor check your meds. Getting aggressive like this with somebody who is not a kind, civil gentleman like myself could end badly for you. The world is a dangerous place. You should never allow being bad at puzzles to impact or potentially impact your well being. Golden Martyr I take this as a real threat to my well being I am notifying the moderator and also calling the authorities of this threat on my life Please cease and desist anymore contact with me

Doghousereiley wrote:: Golden Martyr I take this as a real threat to my well being I am notifying the moderator and also calling the authorities of this threat on my life Please cease and desist anymore contact with me Chris- you obviously cannot read and are most certainly delusional. I clearly stated, sending the messages that you sent me could get you in trouble. You are lucky I am such a nice, civil gentleman living in Canada. A gun toting Texan may not take as kindly to these messages.

GoldenMartyr wrote:: Chris- you obviously cannot read and are most certainly delusional. I clearly stated, sending the messages that you sent me could get you in trouble. You are lucky I am such a nice, civil gentleman living in Canada. A gun toting Texan may not take as kindly to these messages. Definitely reread doghouse. Not a threat. In fact, was looking out for you.

I think somebody mentioned a treasure hunt on this forum once, a long time ago. Sounds intriguing. Can we talk about that instead? Or can someone send me a link?

forest_blight wrote:: I think somebody mentioned a treasure hunt on this forum once, a long time ago. Sounds intriguing. Can we talk about that instead? Or can someone send me a link? sadly those days are over long ago a timewhen other were open to new ideas now being open minded is just "delusional"

Doghousereiley wrote:: now being open minded is just "delusional" No, being ignorant and consistently stating that I was knocking johann was what qualified you as delusional in my opinion. I still believe that BP's reply to johann was ambiguous and needed the email that he sent for context. I also maintain that he broke Cleveland wide open and Andy would have never found the Cleveland casque without him. The guy was fantastic to interact with here in the old days. That is a compliment not a knock.

I agree, that's not a threat... it's a warning against this kind of behavior with others. And a valid one given the dude who lied about being gunned down by ms13, and the one chick who threatened to drive over and beat the other chicks ass on the tribute page. Seriously. People get all pissy when others disagree, esspecially people who have the type of personality that drives them to puzzles. Cant we all agree that this puzzle has made us all slightly autistic, move past this, and collectivly weaponize our autism to solve the puzzle? As much as I'd love to see Dog and GM square off in a ring with some gloves... it will do nothing to solve Montreal, or St. Loius, or wherever.