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Re: image 12

Postby Egbert » Wed May 05, 2004 4:12 pm

Hmmm.  I must have missed rewand's message.  My workplace is 20 minutes from NYC, so I can go there any time, if Shawn isn't able to find anything.
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Re: image 12

Postby catherwood » Sun May 16, 2004 10:54 pm

"Cathedral of the Resurrection, 228 N 12th St., Brooklyn, (Russian Orthodox Outside Russia)
Dramatic and detailed recreation of a Russian Church, onion domes and all."

No photo. Argh.


I did find a photo of this church.
http://maniacalrage.net/photos/2004/04/ ... dex_13.php
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Re: image 12

Postby fox » Sun May 23, 2004 6:41 am

???
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Re: image 12

Postby FRSTPRZFA » Sun May 23, 2004 6:33 pm

Hi all, I am new to this board and am hoping to join in the hunt. I do not have a book yet but it should be arriving soon. In the mean time I came across this site which I thought might help some of you. If you scroll down there is a place to get lots of photos of things in NYC. I do live just outside the city and my Husband works there everyday so if you have any questions I would be more than happy to help.
http://www.vacationidea.com/new_york_ci ... lery7.html
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Re: image 12

Postby fox » Sun May 23, 2004 10:11 pm

I think the statue of liberty face is one clue and the body is another.


yes, that is definitely not Lady Liberties garb.  How about this as a possible match? http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_about/pa ... thesda.jpg  I cant find a real good, clear close up but I believe the robe to be quite similar.  Also, read this little blurb about her and see if something stands out:

http://www.centralpark2000.com/database ... ntain.html


only problem is, I think it may be illegal to dig in the park.
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Re: image 12

Postby fox » Tue May 25, 2004 6:22 am

8)

here is an email from BP to FRSTPRZFA which she forwarded to me concerning a possible casque location in Central Park.
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From:
To:
Subject: Re: Sorry to bother you.
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:08 PM

there is no treasure in central park
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;D drats, there goes my ideas....looks like we need to turn to other parts/parks of NYC
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Re: image 12

Postby maltedfalcon » Wed May 26, 2004 5:44 pm

just a thought based on the GGpark map in pix 1
is it possible the image we all thought was a single World Trade Center tower is actually a map view of North Central Park?
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Re: image 12

Postby mrshamrock » Wed May 26, 2004 5:45 pm

hello again, here goes post 3

i believe that the 3 towers you see in the picture is of ellis island.... look at the pic and tell me what you think

http://www.historychannel.com/ellisisland/index2.html Now ellis island has 4 towers, but mainly only 3 are seeable if you travel ship, like if you were an immagrant

i am also real excited about the possibility that image 12 goes with verse 8....please read my post on verse 8....i really thought that the casque itslef was on liberty island.....but bpruess shot that down, saying "there is no treasure on liberty island"..... but we are getting close.....read my post on "verse 8" and lemme mnow if it makes sense.....

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Re: image 12

Postby fox » Wed May 26, 2004 9:55 pm

falcon, I think the confirmers seen in P12 point to NYC and the confirmers seen in P1 are very good matches for GGP.
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Re: image 12

Postby johann » Wed May 26, 2004 11:59 pm

The eagle head has been associated with the Chrysler building, and the rounded arch (as opposed to a Gothic arch) could be connected to The Cloisters, a museum of medieval art in Fort Tryon Park.  Perhaps the colored spots represent mosaic.  Now, I do not know New York, so you New Yorkers may be able to eliminate my theory as rubbish.  Pic 12 may be connected to verse 5, so I will post the theory there and y'all can scrutinize it.
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Another New York.

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Re: image 12

Postby FRSTPRZFA » Sun May 30, 2004 6:38 am

Ohh, neVar, I think that was great thinking on your part, but I am almost sure that the Vegas NY was not there 20 yrs ago. Can anyone comfirm this?
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Re: image 12

Postby wilhouse » Sun May 30, 2004 7:44 pm

well, the roller coaster on top of the hotel opened in 1997. I think the hotel opened at that time too.
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Re: image 12

Postby macmail » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:51 pm

I've been lurking on the boards for a while, enjoying the hunt--hope you don't mind if I jump in. I want to propose something a little radical (could be completely wrong, but I thought I'd throw it out here for comment).
I wonder if image 12, which we've been assuming to refer to NYC, could actually be paired with verse 10 and referring to Pittsburgh, PA.  Here are my thoughts:

The solo rectangle in the left corner looks to me like the US Steel tower (USX tower) in downtown Pgh, which is one of the tallest buildings in the world.  It is dark grey (the "grey giant" of verse 10?).  If you cross the Monongahela river to the south side of Pgh, you find St. John the Baptist Ukranian Catholic church almost literally "in the shadow of the grey giant." (see first link below)

http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/neighborho ... _n223.html

Here is another image:  
http://www.clpgh.org/exhibit/neighborho ... _n221.html

The church is not an exact match to the silhouette in I12, but it's pretty close.  Perspective based on where you're standing might also affect the match.  From the photo in the second link, it seems that the stained-glass windows in the church are shaped just like I12.  

If you start at the church and go about half a mile west on Carson street, passing under the Liberty bridge (a possible alternate explanation for the face of Liberty on the woman in Image 12?) you get to the foot of the Monongahela incline.  

http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/i ... llView.jpg

The station sign saying Monongahela (after the nearby river, which was named for the native Monongahela Indian culture) could be the "sign nearby" that "speaks of Indies native"  and I can tell you from experience that there is a serious whirring sound from the cables--the incline is really noisy!  "Cars abound" here, definitely. "Carson" (a play on words?) street has lots of auto traffic.  There are railroad tracks and a train station on the other side of the street (train cars) and the incline has cars, too.  If you wanted to get cute, you could say that "cars abound" refers to the incline cars, which are bound to the track.  

The "arm that extends over the slender path" could be the incline track itself--there are supposedly footpaths that go up Mt. Washington, but I have no idea if there is one near or under the incline.  If you take the incline up, you get to Grandview Ave.  Nearby to the east is Grandview Park.  I haven't been there, so I am not sure if 22 steps ("twice as many east steps as the hour") would get you to from the top of the incline to the park, but it might.  22 steps might also refer to stairs near the bottom or top of the incline.

If you are at the top of the incline, on Mt. Washington, you have a view that allows you to "gaze north" (northwest, technically) "toward the isle of B" which would be Brunot Island, in the Ohio river.  

I don't know who "him of Hard word" would be in this case.  "Hard" makes me think of steel, and Pittsburgh is known as the Steel City.  Perhaps one of the nineteenth-century steel tycoons like Carnegie or Frick?  The area of the city that I'm describing used to be industrial, with iron, steel and glass works.  

Other random ideas: the three droplets of water in Image 12 could represent Pittsburgh's famous three rivers.  In Verse 10, the "simple roots in rhapsodic man's soil" might refer to the fact that Pittsburgh was the birthplace and childhood home of Oscar Levant, a pianist and actor who was the best friend of George "Rhapsody in Blue" Gershwin.  Levant played himself in the movie "Rhapsody in Blue" and also recorded much of the movie's soundtrack, including the title track.  From Grandview avenue (or park) you can see all of downtown Pgh, including the Hill district, where Levant grew up.  Maybe there is a plaque or monument?

The eagle is the main thing making me question all of this, because I agree that it really does look like the gargoyle on the NYC Chrysler building.  But could it be just an eagle?  The only link I can come up with for my scenario is that the eagle relates to George Washington (as on the quarter-dollar coin, and in general USA symbology) and Mt. Washington is central here.  Kind of weak, though...

Would love to hear anybody else's ideas on this.  I thought it was interesting enough to rate a post, but maybe I just have too much time on my hands...  

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Re: image 12

Postby dan39decoy » Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:20 am

In regard to the color blindness test/color pebbles possible link:

There seem to be two original tests that are still most often used.  The Ishihara test consists of the familiar "hidden" numbers in a field of colored spots.  There are two series of standard plates, 24 and 38 series editions, but eight plates are generally used in diagnosis.

The AO-HRR uses the same technique, but most often with a combination of shapes and numbers.  I do not know which was first developed (Ishihara's was originally done with Japanese characters, then later adapted with Arabic numerals).

While these panels may be suggesting numbers based on some standard, the AO-HRR was developed by three researchers: Hardy, Rand, and Rittler.

It is a longshot, but there could be three close streets or a monument bearing some variation of these names near the treasure site.
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