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Re: The slow spill

Postby Scrappy929 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:17 pm

dosethree wrote:You say it it worked for the two solved ones but did it work for Cleveland? Cleveland didn't didn't really take you on a journey, as it more described the area around the park and then the dig spot, "In between two countries" doesn't have an image match I'm aware of. "As the road curves" might be a match for the curvy tail of the centaur, but it doesn't seem like the same level of image match if that's what you're referring to? Or maybe the "backwards" order of verse 4 is significant and "seek the columns" is the "start" with a sweet image match

In the case of Boston (verse 3/image 11) which seems very trailesque we haven't really found a good image match at the suspected starting point of the Boston Public Library (closest is perhaps the Trinity Church for the castle in Pandora's box) though the area hasn't changed much.

edit: specifying verse number


"Beneath two countries"
Image

"As the road curves"
Image

On this "curved road," you can see the back of the Italian Gardens, which has the lion & fountain... very prominently centered in image 4. Image verifier... So, not really a line 1 start here image verifier but the second line gets us on the road and then we see our image verifier.

Verse 4 can definitely be read backwards for certain lines. In the Japanese translation, it is even stated that one line may go with the previous line or the subsequent line.

As you walk the path from where you start, you see quite a few image verifiers. However, in reality with this particular puzzle, you could actually just go straight to the wall and completely miss everything else. If I am not mistaken, please correct me if I am wrong, I believe Brian & Andy stated in the podcast that when they got there, they went straight to the wall and then looked around to verify. However, I believe they had already identified everything so there was no real need to start at the beginning once they got there. More like a, "let's have a look... oh yeah... this is it!"

This one was not as much of a journey as Chicago, but it still leads you to the columns, think Greek, ... solution. If you were to walk this particular path from "Beneath two countries..." to the wall, it is only about 0.2 miles. The Chicago path from M & B to fence & fixture would be about 0.4 miles.

The 2 solved puzzle verses seem to pinpoint a dig spot very precisely. The others, maybe not so much... yet to be seen. The theory is that they should... Guess we'll see when the next one is brought back to daylight.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby Spiritr » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:42 pm

those sign weren't there in 1979, Parkgate was called Pollock Dr., East Blvd was Upper Dr., MLK Dr. was called Lower Dr. it was NEVER Euclid Ave.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby BINGO » Fri May 24, 2019 5:17 pm

I think the coast may be clear.

Let's fire this thread back up. :group)
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Re: The slow spill

Postby Kang » Sat May 25, 2019 1:45 am

BINGO wrote:I think the coast may be clear. Let's fire this thread back up.
+1
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Re: The slow spill

Postby NYCNative » Mon May 27, 2019 6:09 pm

Hey all,

I was reading one of the older posts on this thread about the paring of the images and the verses but I am still confused if there is a proper method to doing so or is it like everything else, a best guess? How certain are we that the current order is correct?

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Re: The slow spill

Postby BINGO » Mon May 27, 2019 8:36 pm

NYCNative wrote:Hey all,

I was reading one of the older posts on this thread about the paring of the images and the verses but I am still confused if there is a proper method to doing so or is it like everything else, a best guess? How certain are we that the current order is correct?

:)


I believe that is/was one of the major points that this thread was trying to get across to everyone.
The OP began to share information, while not exactly new or unknown, but was being interpreted and shared in a very new way.
Personally, I was put off by this thread in its early stages, but I have become very interested in how it all weaves together.
Hopefully, the author(s) can bring this thing to the finish line.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby burnstyle » Mon May 27, 2019 10:44 pm

I think the point of this thread was to point people in a direction, and let them get to the end on their own. But there just wasn't enoug information for people to create a path... if that makes sense.
I agree though. The information and conversation was good. I wish it would continue.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby strike13 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:40 pm

Ill ask again...what exactly is being spilled here? The title of the thread implies that solid information is known and proven by a few and they are attempting to slowly share it here? what is that point? if you know it, spill it.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby strike13 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:58 pm

strike13 wrote:Ill ask again...what exactly is being spilled here? The title of the thread implies that solid information is known and proven by a few and they are attempting to slowly share it here? what is that point? if you know it, spill it.


Not meant to be read in a jerk tone...I am just genuinely curious
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Re: The slow spill

Postby NYCNative » Tue May 28, 2019 6:45 pm

What was supposed to be spilled was the method of how the verses matches with the images, from what I gathered. I haven't read anything that helps and everyone is always so cryptic.

I guess the point is that nobody knows how to match the verses with the images correctly.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby erexere » Tue May 28, 2019 7:09 pm

I have no idea what's going on here, but my opinion on whether a consistent method for linking verses to images is no, none exists. What seems to be a verse link for one doesn't seem to work for others.

The Greek puzzle for starters would make quick sense given theres some Greeks mentioned in verse 4, but then theres also those mentioned in verse 3, so maybe that's all we can hope for as one approach or another is likely going to have options, or be more vague as difficulty increases.

That leads me to the concept of difficulty itself. Any job becomes immensely difficult when the wrong tools or no tools at all are being used. I think it is necessary to figure out what tools are needed for each puzzle. Finding these tools may includes looking at word definitions, grammar, quotes, acrostics, homophones, synonyms, historical events, art and architecture, cultural bias and interesting departures from the norm or a common perspective of Man, because I believe the fair Folk went for something uniquely fitting to whatever traits that would be expected of them.

Ultimately, I think a foundation of reason for every hint is packed tightly into each puzzle creation.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby four21thrasher » Wed May 29, 2019 12:37 am

NYCNative wrote:I was reading one of the older posts on this thread...

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Re: The slow spill

Postby four21thrasher » Wed May 29, 2019 12:52 am

burnstyle wrote:I think the point of this thread was to point people in a direction, and let them get to the end on their own. But there just wasn't enoug information for people to create a path... if that makes sense.
I agree though. The information and conversation was good. I wish it would continue.

The primary intent of this thread was the "AKA" part, and that is now complete. Very, very complete. Satisfyingly complete. The remainder of the spill, and it's secondary intent, will be a deluge. A few sentences will be all it will take, and then anyone could go and solve the puzzles that remain. The timing must be right, and I must have JJP's blessing. I'm working on that. If he won't bite, it may go with me to my grave, and I'll end up cutting off my nose to spite my face.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby four21thrasher » Wed May 29, 2019 1:06 am

Kang wrote:
BINGO wrote:I think the coast may be clear. Let's fire this thread back up.
+1

You two will be the first to know.
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Re: The slow spill

Postby four21thrasher » Wed May 29, 2019 1:13 am

dosethree wrote:ImageImage
The image match is pretty interesting. The wiki for image 5 has that symbol down as matching to a old removed facade of a building (sullivan center 1 south state street) which is about 5 blocks away from the treasure site, but this is more attractive because it matches the start of the verse (and is still there for us to look at).

I always though that (at least for treasure map style verses like Chicago) there should be an image confirmer where you are supposed to start and perhaps at every step along the way, Byrons' way of confirming you are on the right trail. Without the image confirmer its pretty hard to follow successive cryptic verse clues (though verse 12 seems far less cryptic than rest...). And of course, in the case of Chicago they found a mistaken verse+image match to start the trail that works even better than the real one (since the image match is so clear and it gets you right where you need to be).

They are both pretty good matches to my eye, but the wiki one is dead on. I wonder which one is correct?

Could they both be correct? Could neither be correct? Do you think it matters? What role did it play in the Chicago solution? What role does it play in your understanding of the Chicago solution today? Did it matter to the dudes that were given the information by Preiss needed to dig one up, or to Preiss in order to give them that information? Would Preiss include things if they didn't matter?
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