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Re: image 8

Postby NYCNative » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:53 pm

dosethree wrote:
WilliamTater wrote:
gManTexas wrote:WilliamTater,

What is the purpose of doing these digital photo manipulations? This has been discussed at length on here and there were no such tools available when the book was published. As far as I can tell, this does not reveal anything.


Does the little g in your name stand for little gonads? You apparently need the backing of the other moron trolls here who accomplish nothing.
Unless you actually find a casque understand you are an educated fool. (g for GED) gMan you are always judged by the morons you keep as cohorts in stupidity.

It's just art. lol.


Hey William, these forums are for discussion of secret related content. gMan's question was entirely reasonable as you have posted in every thread these image manipulations that are not helpful to people, and you responded only with insults. Reported


Tater is an old time troll of this forum that got banned a while ago. Looks like he is back with a bag of old tricks!
This forum has gone to poop.
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:37 pm

This forum has gone to poop.

It was fine until people started thinking that they could monetize the hunt. And it's still the best resource for historical information. Which is essential if you are serious about trying to, you know, actually solve the puzzle.
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Re: image 8

Postby NYCNative » Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:24 pm

renovator wrote:
This forum has gone to poop.

It was fine until people started thinking that they could monetize the hunt. And it's still the best resource for historical information. Which is essential if you are serious about trying to, you know, actually solve the puzzle.
My two cents


Even before the big scandal, the forum was going down hill. It is the price you pay having an open discussion with everyone and anyone. I am sure the old timers will tell you, as they have told me, the forum got bad after the airing of EU. It did bring some good minds and insights but it also brought the same social media idiots that you find everywhere else. You are right Ren, it would be AWESOME if everyone's attention was on solving the puzzles (maybe even together) instead of competing in an imaginary popularity contest to see who can get the most views and attention.
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Re: image 8

Postby maltedfalcon » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:28 pm

renovator wrote:
This forum has gone to poop.

It was fine until people started thinking that they could monetize the hunt.

The only person I know of who thought they could monetize the hunt, is Gerald Gay.
Do you have a list of others? Of course suggesting avarice is a problem in a treasure hunt is kind of problematic in itself...
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Of course suggesting avarice is a problem in a treasure hunt is kind of problematic in itself...

True, if I was only talking about money. Which I am not. At least, not directly. Perhaps "profit" would have been a better to word to use in this case.
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Re: image 8

Postby NYCNative » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:00 pm

renovator wrote:
Of course suggesting avarice is a problem in a treasure hunt is kind of problematic in itself...

True, if I was only talking about money. Which I am not. At least, not directly. Perhaps "profit" would have been a better to word to use in this case.


:rofl

Nice fallback.
Perhaps we should lets this thread go back to its intended topic though.
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:58 pm

Nice fallback.

I'd like to think it was a clarification. But with regard to my original statement, I can think of at least 4 people (besides the creators) who have tried to actually monetize this puzzle, as in make money off of it. Without exception, their efforts have had what I consider to be a detrimental effect on this puzzle in general, and on this forum in particular. It's my opinion, and I stand by it as far as it goes.

There is/was a casque buried in Houston. BP confirmed this. The prevailing wisdom is that it is/was buried somewhere in Hermann Park. BP might have confirmed this as well when he told Mark that he was "close". We should be using Image 8 and Verse 1 to solve this puzzle.
There, back on topic.
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Re: image 8

Postby NYCNative » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:31 am

renovator wrote:
I'd like to think it was a clarification. But with regard to my original statement, I can think of at least 4 people (besides the creators) who have tried to actually monetize this puzzle, as in make money off of it. Without exception, their efforts have had what I consider to be a detrimental effect on this puzzle in general, and on this forum in particular. It's my opinion, and I stand by it as far as it goes.

Which is essential if you are serious about trying to, you know, actually solve the puzzle.
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:53 am

Familiarizing yourself with the historical record is essential if you are serious about solving the puzzle.

But you know, until the next casque is found, all ideas are good ideas. Including digging in White Point Garden using the wrong verse for guidance.
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Re: image 8

Postby gManTexas » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:44 am

renovator wrote:And it's still the best resource for historical information. Which is essential if you are serious about trying to, you know, actually solve the puzzle.


But is it really? A bunch of people quit the forum, for their own reasons, and took their posts with them. There are now huge gaps in the information stream. Not to mention that many old timers have just abandoned the forum, so we no longer have those resources at our disposal.
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:30 am

But is it really?

IMO, yes, really. With the possible exception of Fenix's, most of the deleted posts added very little value. As for the old timers who have left, I don't think any of them have deleted their accounts, so while they may no longer be contributing, their past contributions are still here for everyone to see, and evaluate.
As an aside, I'm not really sure why Mark P. allows people to delete their posts. It seems to me that once someone posts something on a public message board, those ideas no longer belong exclusively to them. They are part of the public domain, and should be treated accordingly. Asking for them to be removed just seems spiteful and petty to me. It's the internet equivalent of taking your ball, and going home.
And to bring this discussion back on topic, I think understanding why some people believe that the Houston casque was destroyed when the Children's Zoo was remodeled is important. Just as important as understanding why other's don't believe that to be the case at all.
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Re: image 8

Postby gManTexas » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:29 am

renovator wrote:
But is it really?

IMO, yes, really. With the possible exception of Fenix's, most of the deleted posts added very little value. As for the old timers who have left, I don't think any of them have deleted their accounts, so while they may no longer be contributing, their past contributions are still here for everyone to see, and evaluate.
As an aside, I'm not really sure why Mark P. allows people to delete their posts. It seems to me that once someone posts something on a public message board, those ideas no longer belong exclusively to them. They are part of the public domain, and should be treated accordingly. Asking for them to be removed just seems spiteful and petty to me. It's the internet equivalent of taking your ball, and going home.
And to bring this discussion back on topic, I think understanding why some people believe that the Houston casque was destroyed when the Children's Zoo was remodeled is important. Just as important as understanding why other's don't believe that to be the case at all.


Some great points here.

I'm in the camp that believes it was never in the Children's Zoo. I don't see how the Verse supports that.
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Re: image 8

Postby bbi » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:26 pm

gManTexas wrote:Any thoughts on my question regarding the Wizard of Oz reference and the tunnel? Interestingly, there is also the Oz reference in Verse 11.


gManTexas asked a question awhile back about the tunnel at Hermann Park after reading a wiki article. Came across this snippet from a user called Tony (posted on the wiki site last week) who also backed this up. But thought this was quite interesting if true, especially if he recalls it as a kid during the 80’s. Looking at aerial images of the same view in 1978-89 this tunnel area was heavily wooded:

“Someone here [wiki] had mentioned the tunnel as a kid and that it played Wizard of Oz music and was spooky inside. I remember that as well and wondering that is some how related to "the woods no lion fears," ie the Cowardly Lion?”
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Re: image 8

Postby renovator » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:45 pm

I'm in the camp that believes it was never in the Children's Zoo. I don't see how the Verse supports that.

I can only assume that this is an informed opinion, based on the best available evidence, including Mark's comments on the podcast. Interestingly, the problem (IMO) isn't that the Verse doesn't lead you directly and unambiguously (as possible anyway) to the Children's Zoo. It's that it does.
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Re: image 8

Postby maltedfalcon » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:13 pm

renovator wrote:
Nice fallback.

I'd like to think it was a clarification. But with regard to my original statement, I can think of at least 4 people (besides the creators) who have tried to actually monetize this puzzle, as in make money off of it. Without exception, their efforts have had what I consider to be a detrimental effect on this puzzle in general, and on this forum in particular. It's my opinion, and I stand by it as far as it goes.

There is/was a casque buried in Houston. BP confirmed this. The prevailing wisdom is that it is/was buried somewhere in Hermann Park. BP might have confirmed this as well when he told Mark that he was "close". We should be using Image 8 and Verse 1 to solve this puzzle.
There, back on topic.


I'd love for you to send me your list - PM me if you don't want to put it out there. I know of a couple people who actually have spent thousands of dollars on aggregating information and getting it out there for the public.
Still blanking on those who want to monetize this hunt though...

But to get back on topic.

My opinion, based on the best available evidence, including Mark's comments on the podcast,
is I agree with gManTexas, it was never in the Children's Zoo. Not surprisingly, Mark dissagrees with me.
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