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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Choice » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:01 pm

renovator wrote: And still no idea how this is supposed to help.


It does, sort of; as a sample puzzle perhaps.
Consider these two pages as a tribute or homage to the book contributors.
So consider the text as the "verse" and in combo with the image to solve the puzzle.

There are 9 contributor's names including JJP and BP.
JJp's initials are on the image already and BP, the head cheese in the hair and perhaps the gnome's face; I see a resemblance.

So that leaves with 7 names.
There are 7 sets of book-end finials on the fence in form of mirrored D and D [ ᗡ D ] for 1st and last name initials.
For example, the 1st panel is SK for Sean Kelly and so on...

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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby karleen » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:51 pm

Choice wrote:
renovator wrote: And still no idea how this is supposed to help.


It does, sort of; as a sample puzzle perhaps.
Consider these two pages as a tribute or homage to the book contributors.
So consider the text as the "verse" and in combo with the image to solve the puzzle.

There are 9 contributor's names including JJP and BP.
JJp's initials are on the image already and BP, the head cheese in the hair and perhaps the gnome's face; I see a resemblance.

So that leaves with 7 names.
There are 7 sets of book-end finials on the fence in form of mirrored D and D [ ᗡ D ] for 1st and last name initials.
For example, the 1st panel is SK for Sean Kelly and so on...

NO CLUES FOR BOSTON!


To clarify, and I'm not sure any of this matters AT ALL, but this is how I was approaching it:
The first panel(left) has that serpent sort of shape indicative of the SF puzzle. The last panel (13? 14?) helps ME with NY. I say me, bc we all have our own ideas.
Next, I was searching for sections of park maps that had roads/paths, etc. that matched up with the scrollwork in the fence. While I did find things that matched up, we all know that we can enlarge and reduce just about anything we want to get it to work. I abandoned the entire idea but there ARE maps there.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby NYCNative » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:30 pm

Interesting. The next question that will be asked, as per your perspective, could you match up anything that would fit for Cleveland/Chicago?
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby karleen » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:13 am

NYCNative wrote:Interesting. The next question that will be asked, as per your perspective, could you match up anything that would fit for Cleveland/Chicago?


The question has been asked many times and the answer is: probably not, unless you enlarge/decrease maps to suit your own purpose. So, no.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby XeroDM » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:35 am

karleen wrote:
NYCNative wrote:Interesting. The next question that will be asked, as per your perspective, could you match up anything that would fit for Cleveland/Chicago?


The question has been asked many times and the answer is: probably not, unless you enlarge/decrease maps to suit your own purpose. So, no.


I don't think there should be any issue with enlarging/decreasing the image...
I had a theory for SF that I felt was well thought out, and it included the tail of the dragon being a map, as you were indicating. It would essentially be walking paths and roads in GGP. When you overlaid it, it wasn't to scale. The scale altered section-to-section. When you drew over a map it made a pretty un-artistic image. So I can see how JJP could warp the pathways to form a more uniform, better looking image.
To me, there is a fence section that resembles the serpent of SF, and another that resembles the scrollwork on the dress for Boston. Interestingly, the other panels seem to be slightly different. It's not as if one panel was drawn and then repeated, or even the density or type or curves were repeated, which could suggest that the panels have some significance- either as author's initials, or as map-like sections.
If you are looking for maps, maybe consider that the maps have been stylised and won't directly overlay.
On a side note, we dug SF based on my map theory, and found nothing, so my theory could be completely wrong and useless. Take it or leave it! :-\
Happy hunting.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby NYCNative » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:24 pm

Has anything of importance, even a good theory, came out of the fairy secrets comes in twos clue? Ex. NYC & SF?
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby burnstyle » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:39 pm

NYCNative wrote:Has anything of importance, even a good theory, came out of the fairy secrets comes in twos clue? Ex. NYC & SF?



There seems to be a bit of coincidence that ties cities together in pairs, but it only works for a few of them.
Methods repeat sometimes, but not always.

short answer: not really.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Choice » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:13 pm

If you read the line in it's context it's somewhat obvious that it's meant for pairing of Image to Verse.

"A dozen paintings -- Share the clues -- Yet Fairy secrets -- Come in twos -- To sing a happy treasure song -- To have a casque to you belong -- Wed one picture -- With one verse -- For Fair Folk's peace -- Goodness first."
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby burnstyle » Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:48 pm

Choice wrote:If you read the line in it's context it's somewhat obvious that it's meant for pairing of Image to Verse.

"A dozen paintings -- Share the clues -- Yet Fairy secrets -- Come in twos -- To sing a happy treasure song -- To have a casque to you belong -- Wed one picture -- With one verse -- For Fair Folk's peace -- Goodness first."


I 100% agree with this, but so many people think it is more than that.

I've just never seen enough evidence to make it more complicated than: pair these together.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby burnstyle » Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:03 pm

The entirety of the book has been put online. it is searchable and allows comments.

The text is not formatted the same way as the book (especially in the fair folks guide) and I'm told that may be important... so you may still need to buy a copy of the book.
Color versions of the fair folk photos are added when available.

https://12treasures.com/american-2/
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby maltedfalcon » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:16 pm

Choice wrote: -- For Fair Folk's peace -- Goodness first."


This is the part that is confusing or unknown - obviously the first part pair image/verse
but this part smacks of a specific instruction
do these lines somehow indicate an order or priority or method....?
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Choice » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:46 pm

maltedfalcon wrote:
Choice wrote: -- For Fair Folk's peace -- Goodness first."


This is the part that is confusing or unknown - obviously the first part pair image/verse
but this part smacks of a specific instruction
do these lines somehow indicate an order or priority or method....?


It means stop fighting in the forums!

Or, "for goodness sake!"
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Doghousereiley » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:59 pm

burnstyle wrote:The entirety of the book has been put online. it is searchable and allows comments.

The text is not formatted the same way as the book (especially in the fair folks guide) and I'm told that may be important... so you may still need to buy a copy of the book.
Color versions of the fair folk photos are added when available.

https://12treasures.com/american-2/


This is really cool Thank you for posting. This is my goto site for any quick reference
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Kalessin » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:43 pm

burnstyle wrote:The entirety of the book has been put online. it is searchable and allows comments.

The text is not formatted the same way as the book (especially in the fair folks guide) and I'm told that may be important... so you may still need to buy a copy of the book.
Color versions of the fair folk photos are added when available.

https://12treasures.com/american-2/


The Fair Folk look so much better in color photos. Thank you!
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Choice » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:40 pm

Kalessin wrote:
The Fair Folk look so much better in color photos. Thank you!


Are those from National Lampoon Mag.?
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