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Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:50 pm
by gManTexas
GoldenMartyr wrote:
gManTexas wrote:This assumes that we are looking in lower Manhattan for the casque, correct?

I'm making zero assumptions. Assumptions are a problem IMO.

My original comment was that there may be text onsite for NYC, MKE, and SF, given there is text onsite for 9 of the 12 puzzles(methodology). You brought up the fact that we may be looking for a literal sign in NY, to which I then replied about Fraunces Tavern.

I feel that some puzzles have been narrowed down to a specific area using logic. Others, not so much. The way I approach the puzzles which I feel have not been proven to be in a more specific area, is to look at the best possible interpretation of the clues in their respective cities.

If Fraunces Tavern were an acceptable interpretation to a treasure hunter then it would point to lower Manhattan. That would be better suited as a V10 discussion....we sort of crossed over from methodology.


I agree.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:17 pm
by strike13
GoldenMartyr wrote:One thing I do feel that all puzzles may have in common is text matches on site. All verses besides 2, 7, 8, 10 have words or portions of the verse that have been found on physical objects in their respective cities. Image 7 adds NOLA to the list(Preservation). So, 9 of 12 cities have words from the puzzle that appear onsite. That is 75% of our cities that fit the pattern. Could we be missing onsite text in SF, MKE, and NYC?


Where is the onsite text for image 11?
Moreover, where is the site? haha!

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:23 pm
by BINGO
strike13 wrote:
Where is the onsite text for image 11?
Moreover, where is the site? haha!


Many will attach T and X at the BPL as the on-site text. Josh Cornell even landed his solve there, it has to be there....

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:58 pm
by GoldenMartyr
BINGO wrote:
strike13 wrote:
Where is the onsite text for image 11?
Moreover, where is the site? haha!


Many will attach T and X at the BPL as the on-site text. Josh Cornell even landed his solve there, it has to be there....

Yes, I believe it is the verse, not image pointing to T and X.

My thought is this. Byron Preiss had a very successful career in literature. It's no secret that children's books were important to him and held a special place in his heart. The BPL is a fantastic specimen and was the first library to establish a space for children. I have trouble believing that he wouldn't visit the BPL. Even if he had not visited, it was shown in encyclopedias, et al. I just cannot convince myself that this is a huge coincidence.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:17 am
by Spiritr
I've finished all the translation work for the Japanese editions,
a request letter including all the context and transcript were submitted to the Fellow Academy in Tokyo for the approval from Mr. Masaki (original translator)

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:50 am
by leighanny
I think I may have found a link between the 12 puzzles and 12 books of the Old Testament. I have brief descriptions on how I think BP matched up the puzzles and books. I've posted this on Facebook and a couple of other places as well, so I apologize if you're seeing this for the second time. These notes are in the "Exiled by the Law of the Prophet" blog. I can't seem to get the link so you may have to copy it.

https://thesecretofthesecret.blog

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:56 pm
by NYCNative
leighanny wrote:I think I may have found a link between the 12 puzzles and 12 books of the Old Testament. I have brief descriptions on how I think BP matched up the puzzles and books. I've posted this on Facebook and a couple of other places as well, so I apologize if you're seeing this for the second time. These notes are in the "Exiled by the Law of the Prophet" blog. I can't seem to get the link so you may have to copy it.

https://thesecretofthesecret.blog


I commend you for your theory. it is well thought out and all. With that being said and after reading your site, I don't see much of a match. Even at some points where you make a correlation it does not really lead anywhere. It is a very interesting concept, the bible in relation to The Secret, I just think it is a stretch.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:26 am
by Choice
I thought I should push this thread back up from page 4.

The words up, down, back and out may be used as directional pointers:

up = north
down = south
back = east
out = west

For example:

V02: Fifteen rows down to the ground
V10: Look down (south) Or gaze 'north'

V01: Looking back (east) from treasure ground

V05: From the west side To dig out (west).

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:49 pm
by Dominick
This is an idea but it is not based on anything. I could give you "up is north and down is south" if it worked in a solved puzzle. I do not see how you got "out is east and back is west." I think the verses are clear. Up is up and down is down. Interesting Idea but I don't see how it is useful.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:28 pm
by Choice
You never heard "out west" or "back east"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA2xCLKNXmQ

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:53 pm
by BINGO
Choice wrote:You never heard "out west" or "back east"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA2xCLKNXmQ


Was this available prior to the Wade Hayes release in 2000? If not, probably just Preiss using his time machine to make the 1981-82 era puzzles more difficult.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:37 pm
by Choice
No genius, I was giving an example of out west, back east.
I'm sure the saying was used before the 80's since it's commonly used in the old western movies.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:59 pm
by BINGO
Compliment accepted.

My point is, the example would have been slightly less ridiculous if it was from one of your old western movies.

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:16 pm
by Choice
Put your T-rex lil hands to work and Google out west imdb

Re: The methodology discussion

PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:23 pm
by BINGO
Doesn’t really work for down.
In Maine, Down East has been a thing a lot longer than your western movies and country songs. Just admit it was a dumb theory and we can all move on.