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Re: image 11

Postby Chaveandderie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:40 am

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Choice wrote:Nice interpretation. Some image matches would be nice.
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Re: image 11

Postby Choice » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:04 am

Durian had similar theory about Castle Island. Too bad his records got erased.
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Re: image 11

Postby Chaveandderie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:30 am

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Chaveandderie wrote:Taking from the 3rd verse “ all the letters are here to see” when I “ face the water” I see the USS Constitution. On some days they fly semaphore flags. Each flag represents a letter. I also believe these flags are represented in the painting as the two columns descending from the elbows of the woman.


Here are the flag signals. What did you come up with?

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Re: image 11

Postby Choice » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:46 am

I got what you meant but if you think the symbols on her sleeves are 'flags' then there should be resemblance to the maritime flags. I really don't see a good match except maybe the square/dot ones. No triangle/dot or 3 X 3 square/dot.
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Re: image 11

Postby Chaveandderie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:06 pm

Choice wrote:I got what you meant but if you think the symbols on her sleeves are 'flags' then there should be resemblance to the maritime flags. I really don't see a good match except maybe the square/dot ones. No triangle/dot or 3 X 3 square/dot.


I think we are all looking a little to hard for exact matches between the real world and Mr.Palencars artistic interpretations.
Please don’t get me wrong, their are some, but I think those are just starting points for us.
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Re: image 11

Postby BINGO » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:18 pm

I have often wondered if the blue ball in the bottom right hand side of the image was a nod to Franklin’s birth place. There was debate of his actual birth location being on Union/Hanover St where his father’s candle shop was located, OR, the other argument has his birth place on Milk St.

The blue ball in the bottom right side of the image could be a blue ball sitting on a milk bottle. A nod to both sides of the story. Either way, both are located in the North End.

Who knows?
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Re: image 11

Postby Kang » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:46 pm

Insert Choice vs. BINGO 'balls' joke here...
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Re: image 11

Postby Choice » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:47 pm

We're all fans of balls, specifically the blue ones!
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Re: image 11

Postby Chaveandderie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:37 pm

BINGO wrote:I have often wondered if the blue ball in the bottom right hand side of the image was a nod to Franklin’s birth place. There was debate of his actual birth location being on Union/Hanover St where his father’s candle shop was located, OR, the other argument has his birth place on Milk St.

The blue ball in the bottom right side of the image could be a blue ball sitting on a milk bottle. A nod to both sides of the story. Either way, both are located in the North End.

Who knows?


I think the blue ball is sitting on a cannon with it’s muzzle pointing skyward.this is my other evidence leaning me to my theory of Copp’s Hill significations.
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Re: image 11

Postby Chaveandderie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:20 pm

The final four clues that convinced me of my location of the casque are as follows. The first, the other lattatude coordinates, which I speculated about the numbers hidden in the arch over the woman, before I plunged them into Google Earth. W 71* 3’ 24”. My location is off by a “ minute”, but in the early 80’s how accurate could it be? I believe the gash in the arch is a artistic way of disguising a square root symbol. That’s why The “9” became a 3. And the bracelet looks like a 42 but if you try those coordinates in Google Earth it’s way off. So, I flipped it to be, 24. This landed me squarely in Langone Park, right next to Steriti Memorial Rink.
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Re: image 11

Postby BINGO » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:27 pm

To me, the coordinate evidence that you are proposing is the weakest of everything you have offered.
In 1981-82 lat/long coordinates would be very general. That is, degrees would be the only accurate data that the normal citizen would calculate from a map. Anything with accuracy down to minutes and seconds would be a dream.

Not impossible, but one would need a map with a lat/long grid printed on it AND hope there was enough detail on that map that shows the park you are looking for. They would next need to measure that map using the proper scale and then would need to calculate the distance measured from that scale and convert it to minutes and seconds of a certain degree.

If Preiss wanted us to decipher this from the numbers you believe are coordinate data, there would be no reason to sprinkle in square roots or other manipulations of those numbers. A full and clear list of the coordinate numbers would be disguised well enough on their own.

If you don’t believe me, give it a try with a ruler and a map and let me know how you make out. Google maps and GPS have made navigating life a bit easier in the last 37 years.
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Re: image 11

Postby BINGO » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:01 pm

I'm curious to see where you believe the casque is buried. Narrowing it down to a park and a broad area is a recipe for a difficult recovery.
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Re: image 11

Postby maltedfalcon » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:40 pm

BINGO wrote:I'm curious to see where you believe the casque is buried. Narrowing it down to a park and a broad area is a recipe for a difficult recovery.

Also wasn Langone Park basicallY completly rennovated in the 90s? Thats when all the Bocce Ball courts and ammenities were added.

it is cool this is the site of the Boston Molassacre though...
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Re: image 11

Postby BINGO » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:44 pm

maltedfalcon wrote:
BINGO wrote:I'm curious to see where you believe the casque is buried. Narrowing it down to a park and a broad area is a recipe for a difficult recovery.

Also wasn Langone Park basicallY completly rennovated in the 90s? Thats when all the Bocce Ball courts and ammenities were added.

it is cool this is the site of the Boston Molassacre though...


Some upgrades, but generally very similar.
I have a 1983 aerial that I pulled from mapjunction. I was hoping to compare their “X marks the spot” from the current aerial vs 1983.
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Re: image 11

Postby phrabbott » Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:00 am

The fella on facebook was convinced it was near the flagpole straight out from home plate. Area hasn't changed at all. I don't remember his reasoning, but it wasn't exceptional.
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