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Postby catherwood » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:35 am

I couldn't find our thread where this hunt was announced, so feel free to redirect me. Over on another board, they have received preliminary clues.

Earlier announcement article ->
http://mysteriouswritings.com/the-secre ... 500-prize/

sub-forum with new threads discussing the first level of clues ->
http://mysteriouswritings.proboards.com ... asure-hunt

Should we spawn this off into a parallel section? We're swamped with the existing book, and it would be good to keep this topic separated.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Choice » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:59 am

A bit confusing. Is this the Image 13?
http://mysteriouswritings.com/wp-conten ... larger.jpg
And below is the text (deciphered)?

"Awakening

Many summers have come and gone since the fair folk first set foot upon the new world's
shore. The acorns of the forest grow into mighty oak trees, the arroyos of the desert crumble to
deep canyons, and the winds of the prairie ever bend the grass.

Amongst the fair folk still dwelling in the old world, songs are sung (and stories told) of
Yo-Rib, he whom the world could not slay. Accompanied by the resolute Ruddy, and the brave
Brandan, Yo-Rib navigated the mist and storm of the seas between, and arrived safely; first of
the fair folk to visit the blue-skyed new world.

After many wonders, these three explorers returned to the world of old, and their tales
became the fabric of legend, told and woven into the souls of all fair folk. Most enchanted by
these stories were the leprechaun Catt, descended from Brandan, and the sea-troll Ja-Eck,
great nephew of Ruddy. Together, they dared the voyage, and thereby came to make the new
world their home.

As the years passed, Catt and Ja-Eck rarely saw one another, since Catt preferred to
explore the meadow, glade, and woodlands, while Ja-Eck chose to stay by the seacliff, knowing
whelkin, fog, and wave. They both enjoyed creating their own music and art, the oddest parts
and pieces of which they would leave for the native peoples to find. Yet the native peoples, and
even the animals of the new world, rarely caught sight of Catt and Ja-Eck, for they (in the
manner of most fair folk) dwelt light on the land. The only exceptions were Catt's spirit animal,
Hawk, and Ja-Eck's familiar, Sealion.

One day, after many years of serenity in the new world, Hawk brought to Catt a head of
a message from Yo-Rib, he whom the world could not slay. Sealion brought to Ja-Eck the tail of
the message, and this is how the leprechaun and the sea-troll were brought together to discuss
the body of the message itself...

To Catt of the leprechauns, and to Ja-Eck of the sea-troll clan, say unto them
both:

Many of our folk fair hath made the voyage out to the new world after Catt and
Ja-Eck did show it done by two folk good of heart. But, alas, the new man, with
his iron, and his plastic, and his siege of asphaltium, has wrung from the land
near all quiet. The fair folk have broke and been rolled into hiding. The terrible
lowing of machine herds has overrun even the sacred 12 casque reliquaries. Nay!
We do not begrudge those of the new people who have found and taken
possession of any casque, for they did so with honor and mischief- in the proper
way of our people. Yet we, last of the Yar-On, fear that the remaining unclaimed
casques may be lost; buried beneath the architectures of man. We summon all
fair folk of the new world to protect the reliquaries that are yet undisturbed. But to
you, Catt, and to you, Ja-Eck, let be said this: There lies a 13th casque known
only to the Yar-On. It is a casque of great beauty, adorned with gold and silver,
and protected by the incantation of enclosing. Within are kept rough gemstones,
so loved by Orion the hunter, and a grip of pure silver, a gift from and back to
Artemis. Kept also within is the fabled Heart of the Ice Kingdom, noble pink
tourmaline.

You are called upon to take the 13th casque from the place where it lies, for
it is directly under the heel of the new man and his encompassing avarice. You
will hide the casque again, far from man, and his blinding fear, destruction, and
square geometry. We leave the choosing of the new location to you; the Yar-On
bow to your knowledge of the new world. When you are ready to begin, Catt, and
you, Ja-Eck, begin walking. You shalt be guided to the reliquary of the 13th
Casque. Take the casque and bear it to a new resting place, and the Yar-On shalt
see that many wards and glyphs protect it, until it is claimed by a righteous one,
be they folk fair or new man.

Catt and Ja-Eck followed Yo-Rib's commands, retrieved the 13th casque, and hid it again
elsewhere. Then, in the tradition of the fair folk, Catt took up his brush, and created a cryptic
painting depicting clues to the casque's location. Ja-Eck took up his pen, and wrote obtuse
verses revealing of other clues to the casque. These were left for finders to find. Catt and Ja-Eck
returned to forest and seacliff, to wait for one who lands in the east, to look west with the right
kind of eyes, to the place and time where the fair folk broke away and rolled back into hiding.

The fair folk, new world and old, have heard the summons of the Yar-On and are taking
action to save the remaining hidden casques. Unless you walk partly in their world, you will
never see them, never know their works, and you certainly will be unable to defeat their
measures, such as glyphs and cryptics, which the fair folk use to protect their treasures."
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Mister EZ » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:25 pm

The text you posted is the decryption of what's in that jpg. The unencrypted text in the jpg gives the keys / cipher method for decryption.

The image itself, isn't the image that will be used for locating the casque. It was provided as a prelude to the puzzle, possibly to give an idea of some of the methods used by the puzzle creators, when they finally release the image/verse. (This particular prelude makes me think that drunknerds was involved in this portion....I seem to recall reading (someplace) that he was a contributor. The puzzle uses a riddle, with an acrostic puzzle, followed by a method used with cryptic crossword puzzles, in order to let you know how to decrypt the text.)

The issue I have with the method: The text is too long and uses two encryption methods. In order to decrypt that text using online tools, you either have to have a jpg OCR tool that's perfect or you have to use an imperfect OCR tool, followed by manual proofreading /corrections or you have to type it out, hoping you make no mistake, prior to decryption , in order to use the tools or you have to manually decrypt directly from the jpg, using two different decryption methods.

One typo or incorrect OCR conversion and the final decryption produces gibberish.....for a long introductory story.

Too many ways to get errors while trying to decrypt, just to read the damn text. It would have been great, if a PDF or doc was made available, so that the encrypted text could be captured, directly.

(This should be 'fun'....and, a little bit challenging, right? Challenging in a maddening way, with painstaking (painful) methods required for decoding the text (that can result in a multitude of errors) rarely seems to be 'fun', imho.)

Still....good riddle....fun decryption (once you figure it out)....but, with too much text encrypted (imo).
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Mister EZ » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:31 pm

catherwood....I agree and think your idea is good: It would be great if this were spawned into a separate subforum to keep things clean and separate.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby catherwood » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:42 pm

if we can keep the discussion in a single thread, I won't bother the admin to move this. If this was just a "warm-up" intro puzzle, it was TOO HARD for the audience used to the actual riddles for/from The Secret (original, O.G., whatever the kids use, i have no idea what OG stands for, original generation?). I agree with the constructive critism above, that a large block of text needs to be provided in a plain file format. Just glancing at the font they chose for that image, I could not see a difference between lowercase L and uppercase I, which could create fatal errors in decryption (depending on the technique used).

I hope the real riddle+image pair stays within the style of the original. From there, we can decide how to proceed with solving it as a group.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Choice » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:45 pm

I assume most members have to rely on a posting of the text and hope to be accurate OCR scan.
I noticed one solver was getting some of the text on top encrypted and then garbage, obviously a typo or spacing issue.
Unless the typo is at the beginning of the text, one should be able to correct the error quickly.
Then again if the encryption is the type that you get whole lot more text than the original text, you are boned!
Please post the image/text when available, I read they should be available by Valentine's day.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby drunknerds » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:44 pm

I'm flattered that you think I might have been involved, EZ.

However, I have had zero association with any part of the puzzle and am looking forward to solving it with all of you.

Sidenote: I hate ciphers. If there's one in the actual puzzle I'm pretty useless beyond showing it to the crypto experts I know.

I am so excited for this!
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby drunknerds » Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:48 pm

I think it might be foreshadowing where it says the dug up casks were done woth mischief which is the fairy way.

Seems to indicate the 13th might require a hard hat and construction vest
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Choice » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:48 pm

Any ideas on where the new casque may be? Maybe Seattle, with all the "sealion" and "hawk" talk.
Also pink tourmaline mined in San Diego. Maybe San Diego Zoo area, the other end of the Spanish trail (zero stone being in St. Augustine)
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby drunknerds » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:09 am

Choice wrote:Any ideas on where the new casque may be? Maybe Seattle, with all the "sealion" and "hawk" talk.
Also pink tourmaline mined in San Diego. Maybe San Diego Zoo area, the other end of the Spanish trail (zero stone being in St. Augustine)


I think those are smart deductions. I'd also consider "that plot in JM's backyard where he wants a pool dug"
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby drunknerds » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:16 am

Seriously speaking, I've been researching cities with a large group of immigrants from one nation.
Washington DC has a huge ethiopian population, the largest in the u.s.

What are some prominent nations that didn't make it into the first book? Japan? India? Mexico? Egypt?
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby karleen » Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:28 am

catherwood wrote:if we can keep the discussion in a single thread, I won't bother the admin to move this. If this was just a "warm-up" intro puzzle, it was TOO HARD for the audience used to the actual riddles for/from The Secret (original, O.G., whatever the kids use, i have no idea what OG stands for, original generation?). I agree with the constructive critism above, that a large block of text needs to be provided in a plain file format. Just glancing at the font they chose for that image, I could not see a difference between lowercase L and uppercase I, which could create fatal errors in decryption (depending on the technique used).

I hope the real riddle+image pair stays within the style of the original. From there, we can decide how to proceed with solving it as a group.


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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby gManTexas » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:23 am

With all the people who believed (or still believe) that St. Louis is a casque city, that's my bet. Although I have not looked at the new puzzle at all, not even in this thread.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby Choice » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:25 am

drunknerds wrote:I think it might be foreshadowing where it says the dug up casks were done woth mischief which is the fairy way.

Seems to indicate the 13th might require a hard hat and construction vest


I'm surprised to read this. You always have liability issues and lawyers on your mind.
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Re: separate side hunt for 13th casque

Postby drunknerds » Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:53 am

Choice wrote:
drunknerds wrote:I think it might be foreshadowing where it says the dug up casks were done woth mischief which is the fairy way.

Seems to indicate the 13th might require a hard hat and construction vest


I'm surprised to read this. You always have liability issues and lawyers on your mind.


No publisher = no legal department = no red tape!

Let's dig up Busch Stadium
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