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Re: image 2

Postby UnprovenFact » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:08 pm

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Hey dizalot,

So the Pear… Some have speculated that it is a representation of the gold ball one might find at the top of a flagpole like the one found in WPG or at one of the forts. I also read a post comparing it to a weather vane like the one atop St. Michael’s Church across from Washington Square Park. Once upon a time, I thought it was a golf ball on a tee. If you head over to Mount Pleasant, there is a golf course at Patriot’s Point. Using the branch as a map, the pear would be about where the golf course is. That was back when I thought “Or on the eighth a scene…” might refer to something you can see from the 8th hole. I left that theory there and played through. Others are dead set on the pear referencing the old Pearman bridge. So, to answer your question, no one really knows for sure.

-I think one creative mind even joked that the pear was food for the lion. That didn’t go over too well.-
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Re: image 2

Postby Choice » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:26 pm

I've noticed a lot of Salvador Dali influence in JJP's works. Here's another one, most likely Civil War reference:

Salvador Dali “Face of War”


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Re: image 2

Postby JamesV » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:38 am

More activity to report from the Charleston search, although it looks like the news reporters were unclear on the Image/Verse pairing: https://www.postandcourier.com/news/dis ... sbPmKSSk5E

I'm still not budging from my own I2/V5 "solution" for Fort Moultrie, but there's a small part of my soul that's pulling for Josh Cornell to find one in White Point Gardens...
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Re: image 2

Postby UnprovenFact » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:57 pm

This is great news! Maybe the treasure will finally be unearthed, and a lot of questions could finally be answered! Although, it sounds more like they just want everyone to stop contacting them for permission to dig, and this is going to be the one and only last chance. My guess is, there will be some GPR, a little probing, and finally a hole or two dug in areas that wouldn’t necessarily disturb the historic site but would suffice as being “allowed to dig”. Treasure or no treasure, they are going to put it to bed… for good.

Best of Luck to the team!
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Re: image 2

Postby burnstyle » Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:37 pm

UnprovenFact wrote:So the Pear… Some have speculated that it is a representation of the gold ball one might find at the top of a flagpole like the one found in WPG or at one of the forts.



Most people seem to think it represents the old pearman bridge near WPG.
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Re: image 2

Postby Choice » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:06 am

Since both pear and flagpole's ball (minute hand of the clock) are hanging off the branch then maybe they are one of the same.

The flagpole's shadow (hour hand) is at 4 O'clock.
The clock is hanging off the branch by the minute hand's tip (flagpole's ball) and pointing to 12 O'clock position.
The pear ball is hanging upside down off the pole meaning it's pointing to 6 O'clock direction.
This means turn the clock 180 degrees.
Then the pole's shadow (hour hand) would be pointing to 10 O'clock position, pointing in direction of white point garden.
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Re: image 2

Postby UnprovenFact » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:58 pm

burnstyle wrote:
UnprovenFact wrote:So the Pear… Some have speculated that it is a representation of the gold ball one might find at the top of a flagpole like the one found in WPG or at one of the forts.



Most people seem to think it represents the old pearman bridge near WPG.


Yes, this is kind of going against the grain here, much like using a verse that is not Verse 6… but until we really know what the pear represents, it could be anything. I think if it was only intended to reference the bridge, it would only need to look like a pear - not a shiny gold ball with a base, perhaps a pole, which extends down into the flower. Also, if it was a reference to the old Pearman Bridge, I would have thought it to be more of an obvious reference. If it had a little man painted inside it, I would absolutely agree Pear + Man = Pearman… Bridge. Much like the Mill(stone) + Walk(ing cane) + Key = Milwaukee. Maybe they didn’t want to use that method twice. I am not the artist or the author, so I really can’t say for certain what it is. I am just throwing out another possibility.

While we are here, what if it really is the gold ball atop the flagpole in WPG? And somehow, the Ft. Sumter face-clock is the key? The eyes are the two cannon on either side of the path, the flagpole is the flagpole, the star and stripes are the flag, the ‘mouth’ is the sewer grate, etc. Maybe the flagpole casts a shadow on the dig spot? Possible?... yes. Likely?... ok, I’ll keep working on it.

I also wondered if the Hobson monument was the “White stone closest..” But that is another issue.
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Re: image 2

Postby Dwill337 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:29 pm

Has anyone found out when the filming/dig date is? Live around the corner & would Love to be preset when/if any thing is uncovered. Personally I'm torn on whether I want it found or not. I love the rabbit hole of wondering & linking Charleston landmarks to this puzzle. On the other hand; closure would be good. I think there's great possibility it is in a few lesser visited parks in this city. Huge fan of the Chalmers, Marion Sq, and Hampton theories.

Also, very very well done to JamesV- one of the best solves I've ever came across
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Re: image 2

Postby jamesrogers2 » Sat May 04, 2019 3:01 am

The pear is in reference to Richmond Pearson Hobson, who had the USS Hobson named after him. A memorial to the USS Hobson is in Charleston, SC in White Point Garden.

Here's my Image 2 solution that leads to the top of the shadow of the Charleston, SC Hobson Memorial on April 26 at 4pm (sundial time). What do you think?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lxkCnE ... sp=sharing
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Re: image 2

Postby Dwill337 » Sat May 04, 2019 3:38 am

jamesrogers2 wrote:The pear is in reference to Richmond Pearson Hobson, who had the USS Hobson named after him. A memorial to the USS Hobson is in Charleston, SC in White Point Garden.

Here's my Image 2 solution that leads to the top of the shadow of the Charleston, SC Hobson Memorial on April 26 at 4pm (sundial time). What do you think?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lxkCnE ... sp=sharing



Yessir always believed it had to do with the sundial if at all in WPG. 4pm shadow at the palm. Sent on- hoping to meet up.
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Re: image 2

Postby JamesV » Sat May 04, 2019 7:57 am

I don't know... I've read a few other "sun-shadow" theories before, but they've never really made sense to me. Yes, that might have been the way the "Masquerade" treasure was supposedly found, but I'm having trouble seeing it with "The Secret."

If BP really designed the clues so that a casque's exact spot could only be found at a certain time of day, on one particular day of the year, then why in the world would he ever have been afraid that all of the treasures would be found within a matter of months?
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Re: image 2

Postby renovator » Sat May 04, 2019 4:53 pm

then why in the world would he ever have been afraid that all of the treasures would be found within a matter of months?

Quite simply, he wasn't. What he said was that if the puzzles proved to be too easy, and they were solved in a couple of months, his publisher would be mad at him or words to that effect. I suspect that he knew he had created a puzzle that would take some time to solve completely, and as we continue to find out, he was correct.
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Re: image 2

Postby UnprovenFact » Sat May 04, 2019 7:27 pm

If you use the Hobson Monument, you may not need a specific day at a specific hour to create a shadow marking the spot. (And what if it is too cloudy on that particular day and time?)

One could just use the arrow in the base of the monument as the direction marker - regardless of the weather. If the clue really is 12 paces from the monument, just follow the arrow's direction.
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Re: image 2

Postby jamesrogers2 » Sun May 05, 2019 12:41 am

UnprovenFact wrote:If you use the Hobson Monument, you may not need a specific day at a specific hour to create a shadow marking the spot. (And what if it is too cloudy on that particular day and time?)

One could just use the arrow in the base of the monument as the direction marker - regardless of the weather. If the clue really is 12 paces from the monument, just follow the arrow's direction.


Great point! And that would explain why you are to start on the west side of the monument (where the line for the arrow starts). I appreciate the feedback!
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Re: image 2

Postby TreasureBloke » Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm

Seeing as Charleston is about to be dug up soon I will post my analysis.

Fair warning: I am using these videos to help get a job also, I do put out for potential sponsorship. Please don't repoint that out it is free information I am tending out.

It is safe for work, I intend to keep them clean.

I also overlayed some 'fanart' over images not to show the original art in the video. It does cover up a bit of my line drawings but I was in a rush plus I have family members who are severely ill to attend to.

Also the production quality is not slick, but I want to keep it somewhat home garage in feel.

25 minute vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIriklgLBMg

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