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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby gManTexas » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:46 am

I really like this proposal. Reading one of the articles from the time period and hearing BP's words regarding some of the prose got me thinking that there has to be connections. Some people have dismissed the prose as somehow being disconnected fluff. I don't see how that could be the case.

Now, here's one issue. I don't have the full book. I can easily remedy that, but most people will not read the entire book. I think the first task is to encourage people to read these passages in order to contribute, and possibly draw out some content that is relevant.

I think this will be a fantastic thread. Great idea!
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby maltedfalcon » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:50 am

I believe the thread you are looking for was called Litany of the Jewels. back maybe about 2007
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby gManTexas » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:10 am

Goldengate wrote:
maltedfalcon wrote:I believe the thread you are looking for was called Litany of the Jewels. back maybe about 2007
Check with Erexere


Thank you Obi-Wan. Those are the Litany of Jewels I'm looking for.


Goldengate, I was under the impression you meant the book part, not the vanishing, the litany of the jewels, etc. I figure there's some value in the prose part which I believe is called The Field Guide of the Fair People.

Can you clarify? In the meantime, I'm thinking of buying the Kindle Edition of the full book.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby NYCNative » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:54 am

Good Thread GG.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Doghousereiley » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:31 am

Brian Zinn wrote in the Cleveland thread that he asked Priess about the "rest" of the book

as Priess thumbed through it

Priess said there was no additional info/clues in the rest of the book besides the verse and images

But I agree with your assessment. The whole book does seem TOO coordinated and the additional illustrations and even some of the descriptions
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby WhiteRabbit » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:58 am

...just to repeat what I posted at SA...

...the book contains a story about the original fair-folk which was presumably written by BP, then the images/verses, and then a series of entries on modern fair-folk by National Lampoon types. The idea that parts of the book are irrelevant starts with a comment from Egbert:

"B.Preiss was a very good poker player, and was not giving out any hints about any of the other locations. However, he did confirm my theory that the countries of origin of the faeries do connect with the sites. He also said that the pages following the verses (which make up the bulk of the book) have NO connection with the puzzles, and contain no additional clues."

The first part can be found here, the last part isn't available online. The first part def contains clues (eg a reference to the Fountain of Youth, and all the countries of origin stuff), none have been demonstrated in the last part so far AFAIK (though the 982 train has been noted). But it wouldn't do any harm to keep an eye open.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Doghousereiley » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:03 pm

I think Pries would confirm cities where casques were buried but not much else
So I think he confirmed St Louis to Johann

In the back of the book is "Spirit of St Louis" where Priess useless the word dauntless to describe Lindberg

I have only come across the word Dauntless twice in my life. both in this book

maybe just a coincidence
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Howardjthomas » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:07 pm

Doghousereiley wrote:Brian Zinn wrote in the Cleveland thread that he asked Priess about the "rest" of the book

as Priess thumbed through it

Priess said there was no additional info/clues in the rest of the book besides the verse and images

But I agree with your assessment. The whole book does seem TOO coordinated and the additional illustrations and even some of the descriptions



Let go over the whole book with Chicago and Cleveland in mind. If we find solid eggs for these then it likely the rest will as well.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby WhiteRabbit » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:21 pm

...either way, if we're gathering non-image/verse clues about the puzzles in this thread, here's something from the English section of the introduction FWIW.

In England, the erstwhile high-honored court of the Fairy Queen was now much diminished. Her Majesty, Mab Herself, and many of Her subjects, Pixies, Hobgoblins, and Boggarts alike, had shrunk to tiny size. Robin had been exiled to Sherwood. Right gladly did all that company hear the news of a haven in the West, and right swiftly they embarked therefor...Robin and the Pixies of Britain gave lessons in archery to the Catawba braves, who passed their skill in bowmanship along to the neighboring Cherokee and Teton Sioux. Leshy and Vily, from the forests of Muscovy, instructed the Mohicans in woodcraft, teaching them to move silently and invisibly through the trees - a skill which (learned authorities say) the Mohicans possessed to the Last.

There's a statue of Queen Elizabeth in the Elizabethan Garden, and the inscription about the "dark forest" was written by Fletcher (arrowmaker). Roanoke has a "Sherwood Dr" and "Maid Marian Ct". There seems to be various "Midgett" connections, eg Neva Midgett House, and Jule's Park which was established by "Guy Midgett", but I don't have dates for any of the MIdgett stuff and it may all be too recent. Nowhere near the Elizabethan Gardens either.

(Some of the book's capitalisations are baffling. Why "Last"? Last of the Mohicans? Random trivia: another of Fenimore's novels, The Spy, features a horse called Roanoke.)
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Doghousereiley » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:00 pm

Wow. That is a cool observation

I like the Energenii. It says they came from Djinns that came from OPEC nations. I thought it appropriate that the OIL connection is to Houston, a major city for Oil/Energy business

and the Capitalizations

isle of B? "of the v". "man of oz"

I also wonder about numbers. in one it is 92 stairs the grand 200 walk 100 paces. yet you pass a proud "fifth"

or Hard word of 3 vols.? these are the only times Pries uses numbers instead of spelling out the word
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby erexere » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:08 pm

Looks like You're well steeped in the madness.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby BINGO » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:22 pm

Page 83 in the image there is a can of 222 spackling compound. I don’t understand if there is any connection at all to the verse, it’s just something that always stood out to me when reading through the book.
Might be something similar to the 82 train on page 199.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby erexere » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:00 pm

Good call on the can of 222. My guess is that Preiss really wanted to liven things up a bit. Out of the twelve locations he chose a handful of selections, or maybe just one for each casque location/puzzle and with those he "exaggerated" them in some of the photographs or with a small edit to the Fair Folk in the field guide after once his hired writers completed their work.

Without a doubt, it would be expected that people would latch on strongly to particular standouts in the verse, nine eight two, two twenty-two, etc.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby gManTexas » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:46 pm

erexere wrote:Good call on the can of 222. My guess is that Preiss really wanted to liven things up a bit. Out of the twelve locations he chose a handful of selections, or maybe just one for each casque location/puzzle and with those he "exaggerated" them in some of the photographs or with a small edit to the Fair Folk in the field guide after once his hired writers completed their work.

Without a doubt, it would be expected that people would latch on strongly to particular standouts in the verse, nine eight two, two twenty-two, etc.


Yes. Going through them now. There are clues, just wondering on the sequence though. It almost seems that the locations have to be determined first, then we look at The Field Guide for reinforcement or additional clues.
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Re: Clues in the Book

Postby Goonie68 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:42 pm

I believe that there are eggs in the book and if Priess said that there are NO connections (being a poker player) then to me I would not take his word for that direction. I would look at it as if he said, I am not telling you that there is, but you should look on your own.... He is not going to tell you what you want to hear in a book that has a buried treasure that he spent time and money to create. That would be way to easy. I also believe that there are no coincidence in the puzzle. This puzzle was well crafted to have random things inserted into the puzzle. I have found this in the SF puzzle on two pages. The first page is under Corporate Giants and in the text it refers to Karl Marx. In GGP there is a meadow named Marx meadow, (Pg 194 of the book) the exact spelling, coincidence?? I don't think so. On Pg 89 there is a picture of Monte Irvin in a Giants uniform, Which would imply baseball to the SF puzzle. These are hints to locations within the specific puzzles, they are not connect to the verse, but they point you in a direction of interest.

Excellent Thread GG!!!!!
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