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rookhunter
2013-07-08 22:10:00
I am attempting to compile useful information that has been presented here throughout the years.
One of the most important pieces of information is the exact location of past dig attempts. You really have to dig and piece together threads to see where some members have put shovel to ground. I am hoping that anyone who has actually dug at proposed locations can post the exact dig spot here.
This information may be invaluable in finding a casque especially in locations where digging might be very restricted. (FOY park, Roanoke)
So in the spirit of finding these darn things please share if you know of a location that was actually dug up. Include pics and depth of dig if possible.
Of the unfound casques I know there have been digs in San Fran, Houston, New Orleans, St Augustine and possibly Charleston.
Deuce
2013-07-08 23:08:00
There was a group that dug in Milwaukee next to a tree on Lincoln Mem Dr. The past threads have all the pics and info. I dug across the street from that location by a tree that looked like the tree in the image. But found a concrete slab about a foot down.
rookhunter
2013-07-09 17:31:00
Deuce wrote::
There was a group that dug in Milwaukee next to a tree on Lincoln Mem Dr. The past threads have all the pics and info. I dug across the street from that location by a tree that looked like the tree in the image. But found a concrete slab about a foot down. I just need confirmation. Is this where Stercox and Forrestblight dug?
Deuce
2013-07-09 18:31:00
I believe it was closer to the street. More in the clearing near the road. Here is a pic. The circled tree is where they dug and I dug across the street.
forest_blight
2013-07-09 18:32:00
Close -- it was a little closer to the road than that. Also, PineTree was digging, too.
rookhunter
2013-07-09 20:24:00
Excellent.
And Deuce you dug here?
Deuce
2013-07-09 22:31:00
Correct. That whole edge of the beach has a concrete foundation about a foot under the sand. So if any future diggers venture in that direction don't waste your time.
I also probed a lot in Juneau Park to no avail. Trees have been removed and new ones planted there since the book was published. The same goes for trees near the sidewalk on the park side of LMD. Someone had a field day on those trees. Lots gone even though Google street view still has them.
WhiteRabbit
2013-07-10 13:46:00
Deuce wrote::
I also probed a lot in Juneau Park to no avail WhiteRabbit wrote::
I have been here all week at Sullivan's island...the street marker is at the tip of the park across from the church and says Osceola one side sta 12 on one side and middle on the other (3 streets meet here) and they were here when bp came and are always white. Using a pace as 30 inch up to 36 I worked a radius to the west side of this stone to no luck I did the same to the ww2 memorial -it puts you just on the edge of the park and the lady's property next door - no luck with that either. I also checked right beside them as White Rabbit requested - sorry no luck - the ground here ends at around 2ft depth in a bed of shell so this in some ways made the search easier but I hit a lot of shells and had to check them out to see they were only shells. Incidentally someone at SA pointed out that there's a
rhyolite
"wonderstone" at the southern end of Juneau.
Methinks that sounds a great place to investigate.
Re: places that have been dug up, here's a quote from the Image 2 thread about a dig attempt at the Sullivan's Island war memorial near the church.
bigmattyh
2013-07-10 15:43:00
I can't find the post, but there was also another guy here who dug near the tees of one of the golf course holes at this park.
If I remember correctly, it was the same guy who actually dug up the Chicago casque -- and I think his solution was actually the best of any of the ones presented here. (I especially liked the fact that the red, spherical tee markers matched the pair of red balls in the image.) The problem was that the "proud, tall fifth" (birch) had been felled and mulched most likely.
WhiteRabbit
2013-07-10 19:33:00
...yeah, it's funny how often people come up with theories that mean they were right but the casque is now unsolvable/irretrievable...
(Shadowrunner's notions about the verse he
solved
were crazy enough, let alone his ideas about the ones he didn't.)
Deuce
2013-07-10 22:36:00
My brother is meeting the head gardener of the Elizabethan Gardens tomorrow for digging. He was told there have been many people at the site looking for the casque. The gardener is going to tell him all the sites that have actually been dug and if our site has been checked out yet. Hopefully they find something.
rookhunter
2013-07-10 22:54:00
Deuce wrote::
My brother is meeting the head gardener of the Elizabethan Gardens tomorrow for digging. He was told there have been many people at the site looking for the casque. The gardener is going to tell him all the sites that have actually been dug and if our site has been checked out yet. Hopefully they find something. I wonder if the gardener has access to the bench area. Wouldnt hurt to ask
Deuce
2013-07-10 23:11:00
I think so. Thats where I told him to dig if he can.
forest_blight
2013-07-11 00:45:00
But the bench isn't in the EG -- it's in the adjoining Ft. Raleigh park.
Still, if they do get to dig there (I hope they do), digging between those sawed-off poles would be a better option I think. Anyway, they should take a probing rod!
maltedfalcon
2013-07-12 16:43:00
Probing rods do not work in sand.
you insert the rod and the crystals of the sand interlock and become an impenetrable block after only a foot or so.
it acts and sounds like you hit something solid. Dig and there is nothing there...
Its the same physics principle that makes cornstarch goo solid that you can walk across it but fluid if you try to hold it.
you could use a hammer and force it down but that kind of eliminates the purpose of the probing rod.
bigmattyh
2013-07-12 21:35:00
WhiteRabbit wrote::
...yeah, it's funny how often people come up with theories that mean they were right but the casque is now unsolvable/irretrievable...
(Shadowrunner's notions about the verse he
solved
were crazy enough, let alone his ideas about the ones he didn't.) It's worth repeating that even in the case of the Chicago casque -- the first one found -- the landscape had already significantly changed enough to not match the clues in the verse. ShadowRunner had to get help from BP to find that casque. It just goes with the territory when you make trees and other non-permanent things part of the treasure path.
rookhunter
2013-07-12 22:03:00
bigmattyh wrote::
It's worth repeating that even in the case of the Chicago casque -- the first one found -- the landscape had already significantly changed enough to not match the clues in the verse. ShadowRunner had to get help from BP to find that casque. It just goes with the territory when you make trees and other non-permanent things part of the treasure path. They were lucky. Imagine they were trying to find it in 2005. A couple of digs, no treasure and no author to tell them they were right. They might have given up.
I have said it before and Ill say it again, we need to invest time and effort into ground penetrating scans. Only way to solve some of these.
erexere
2013-07-16 20:37:00
maltedfalcon wrote::
Probing rods do not work in sand.
you insert the rod and the crystals of the sand interlock and become an impenetrable block after only a foot or so.
it acts and sounds like you hit something solid. Dig and there is nothing there...
Its the same physics principle that makes cornstarch goo solid that you can walk across it but fluid if you try to hold it.
you could use a hammer and force it down but that kind of eliminates the purpose of the probing rod. Dude, just got back from the beach. You're right, I couldn't probe beyond a foot.
Deuce
2013-07-16 21:14:00
Official word on Roanoke... they dug under the bench and hit clay about a foot down and couldn't go any further.
rookhunter
2013-07-17 03:31:00
Deuce wrote::
Official word on Roanoke... they dug under the bench and hit clay about a foot down and couldn't go any further. who??
Edit: and what side? tell us more! pics?
Deuce
2013-07-24 14:55:00
Take this for what you will. A lot of calls, callbacks, and messages. So I don't know if we should rule the bench spot out yet or not. There were no witnesses to the actual dig.
The head gardener at Roanoke said he would dig under the bench and let us know if he found anything. Then he called to let us know that he hit clay and didn't dig any further. Who knows if he actually dug. Might not have had time and just fed us some bull. Anyhow we gave it a try. If he dug then cool. But I can't say for sure that the bench was an attempted dig.
rookhunter
2013-07-26 16:24:00
Finally got a chance to upload some of the photos I have been storing from all the threads to consolidate info. You can find the link on my profile or signature. I am by no means close to done but I think in the end we will have a nice library of photos for reference without having to search.
Deuce
2013-07-27 16:35:00
That's awesome. Really helps.