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GPKing
2003-05-07 16:38:00
Here's a verse in the book that describes each of the jewels.
This may help interpreting some of the pics:
What are the treasures the Fair Folk bring?
Easily named, and lovingly told:
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
The Hadas of Iberia:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer's day.
Dwarves' treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The Opal of the Lowland Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
Africa's Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
The Nymphs of Hellas cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
From far Cathay, the dragon's Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
Each jewel in its weird-wrought casque,
Gift of the Viking craftsmen Elves.
Wonder and glory thirteen-fold:
These are the treasures the Fair Folk bring.
fox
2003-05-08 01:37:00
Thanks for putting that on the boards GPK...it could indeed become helpful. One thing I find odd is the last 2 lines. Every line before the ending tells of each of the jewels brought over and a little about the fair folk. Now, the 2nd to the last line states "thirteen-fold". 13? there are only 12 jewels, 12 P's, 12 V's, 12 birth months/stones/flowers & 12 #'s (ie clock faces, flowers, moons, etc...). So, what is this thirteenth something we are missing?
Egbert
2003-05-08 16:05:00
The 13th item is the casques, donated by the elves (see end of poem).
I am furiously working on matching up all the pics to the flowers and birthstones, but I still don't have them all yet. There are a bunch of discrepancies, and I am working from the internet rather than a book.
shawnvw
2003-05-13 10:53:00
I've got all this written down somewhere, but since I can't find it, I'll just start. Note the connection between the clocks and the birthstones.
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
[Birthstone of January. Armor painting has Clock 1]
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
[Birthstone of May.]
The Hadas of Iberia [Spain]:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
[Birthstone of September. The Spanish Conquistador painting?]
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer's day.
[Birthstone of December. Grandfather Clock/Mask painting: Clock is, obviously, 12.]
Dwarves' treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
[Birthstone of February]
The Opal of the Lowland [Netherlands?] Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
[Birthstone of October]
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
[Floating Woman/Russian Church painting. Clock: 11. Birthstone of November]
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
[Birthstone of August]
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
[The Genie painting. Birthstone of July]
Africa's Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
[The Lion/Mask painting. Birthstone of April. Clock (small mask): 4]
The Nymphs of Hellas [Greece] cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
[Birthstone of March]
From far Cathay [China], the dragon's Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
[The Chinese Woman painting. Clock: 6, Birthstone of June.]
I hope someone else can finish matching the countries and the flowers to the paintings; I've got to get to bed.
Egbert
2003-05-13 15:16:00
Well, each picture should have an indication of time (not necessarily on a clock), which gives us a month of the year. Each picture is also supposed to have a birthstone and birthflower of that month. Using the verse on pp. 20-21, each picture also has a "theme" based upon the region where the faeries are from.
Image 1
June (6 o'clock)
Pearl
Rose
Chinese/Asian Theme
From far Cathay, the dragon's Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
Image 2
April (4 o'clock)
Diamond
Daisy
African Theme
Africa's Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
Image 3
January (1 o'clock)
Garnet
White Carnation
English Theme
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
Image 4
March? (3-sided triangle?)
Aquamarine
Jonquil? Violet? Daffodil? (can't tell)
Greek Theme
The Nymphs of Hellas cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
Image 5
May?(can't see a time)
Emerald
Lily of the Valley
Celtic Theme
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
Image 6
September?(can't see a time)
Sapphire
Aster
Spanish Theme
The Hadas of Iberia:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
Image 7
December (12 o'clock)
Turquoise
Narcissus? Holly? Poinsettia? Paper White?
French Theme (curious - New Orleans connection?) 🙂
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer's day.
Image 8
July?(can't see a time)
Ruby
Larkspur? Water Lily? (can't see a flower)
Arabian Theme
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
Image 9
October (The roman numeral "X")
Opal
Marigold? Calendula?
Dutch/Scottish? Theme
The Opal of the Lowland Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
Image 12
November (11 o'clock? hard to tell)
Topaz? (there's blue topaz, but the poem indicates a gold color!!!)
Chrysanthemum
Russian Theme (russian orthodox church!)
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
Images 10 & 11
These stump me.
One should be:
February (no indication of time in either pic)
Amethyst (pic 11 --- is that gem purple though?)
Violet or Primrose (pic 11 has a purple flower, but it doesn't look like a violet or primrose, it looks more like Gladiolus)
German Theme
Dwarves' treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The other should be:
August (ball glowing at 8 o'clock in pic 10?)
Peridot (are either of these gems green???)
Gladiolus or Poppy (what is that flower in pic 10?)
Italian Theme
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
Whew! I could use some help with the question marks. I guess I will also put these lists in the appropriate image threads.
fox
2003-05-13 20:14:00
Just filling in some "times" egg could not locate. There arent clocks in every P so we have to find something to count which equals the # of the month.
P5 - May (5) = warts on face.
P6 - Sept (9) = purple flowers
P8 - July (7) = total of columns
P10 - Feb (2) = red balls being juggled
P11 - Aug (8) = I dont remember what I had for this one, possibly the black or white squares going around the lower frame of the globe/ball. (8 white & 8 black)
shawnvw
2003-05-14 02:58:00
Unknown:
Images 10 & 11
These stump me.
One should be:
February (no indication of time in either pic)
Amethyst (pic 11 --- is that gem purple though?)
Violet or Primrose (pic 11 has a purple flower, but it doesn't look like a violet or primrose, it looks more like Gladiolus)
German Theme
Dwarves' treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The other should be:
August (ball glowing at 8 o'clock in pic 10?)
Peridot (are either of these gems green???)
Gladiolus or Poppy (what is that flower in pic 10?)
Italian Theme
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
Whew! I could use some help with the question marks. I guess I will also put these lists in the appropriate image threads. How about this: the juggler is holding 2 balls, among other things.
And in the other picture, if you count the three globes, two bubbles, the moon, the star, and the window, you get eight round objects?
tsweeney123x
2003-06-26 10:57:00
"Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald."
The Irish population of Chicago.
Siskel
2004-07-20 06:25:00
Response to an old posting by Fox - now that I have read my book through and through and I am trying to read each and every post in chronologic order from oldest to most recent: what is the significance of the line "wonder and glory thirteen fold" mentioned in the last stanza of the lines regarding the treasures of the fair people, when there are only twelve pix, twelve treasures, etc. My running debate with Egbert centers around the fact that he believes the "13" reference relates to the casque as created and donated to the cause by the elves - a thirteenth wonder and glory to go along with the original twelve jewels. I, on the other hand remember reading a footnote in the text before the pix and verses which talks of the emmigration of the various fair folk to this country. In it, the story reveals that the fair people from Scotland and their close relatives from Ireland merged to form one tribe when they arrived in this country. Thus, the Emerald representing the Celtic folk would represent the treasure of one tribe made up of two country's original fair folk. Accordingly, we are left with only twelve jewels from twelve tribes although, as indicated, one of the tribes is made up of fair folks from two different Celtic countries making the true number of countries represented 13 and thus wonder and glory thirteen fold.
catherwood
2004-07-20 09:09:00
What are the treasures the Fair Folk bring?
Easily
named
, and lovingly told:
1:
Fairies of
England
proudly bear
Garnet
, crown-jewel of their Queen.
2:
Brilliant as the eyes of
Celtic
folk,
Cold morning green, their
Emerald
.
3:
The Hadas of
Iberia
:
Sapphire
, shy as a wild field flower.
4:
Turquoise
the Fays of
France
keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer's day.
5:
Dwarves' treasure: purple
Amethyst
,
Imperial star of
Germany
.
6:
The
Opal
of the
Lowland
Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
7:
A
Topaz
is the
Russian
prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
8:
Peridot
of old
Italy
:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
9:
The
Ruby
out of
Araby
:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
10:
Africa
's
Diamond
, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
11:
The Nymphs of
Hellas
cherish sweet
Aquamarine
, spring-water clear.
12:
From far
Cathay
, the dragon's
Pearl
:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
13:
Each jewel in its weird-wrought
casque
,
Gift
of the
Viking
craftsmen Elves.
Wonder and glory thirteen-fold:
These
are the treasures the Fair Folk bring.
varin
2004-07-21 08:36:00
Unknown:
How about this: the juggler is holding 2 balls, among other things. Long shot here, but what about the angle of her color as an indication of time? Looks like 2 o'clock *shrug*
slappybuns
2008-03-30 12:56:00
does anyone have an explanation why he doesn't mention turquoise or opal on p. 7 in the book. he only names 10 of the jewels....just seems odd .
for those without the book:
"You are about to learn of their wonderstones, the twelve treasures brought with them in their passage to the New Found Land: diamond, ruby, pearl, amethyst, emerald, sapphire, peridot, garnet, topaz, aquamarine...And you will discover what happened when the Fair People found Man of the New World, who shared their deep love for nature."
forest_blight
2008-03-30 13:21:00
Unsure, but I think the ellipsis is meant to refer to the remaining ones (like "etc." or "and so on").
slappybuns
2008-03-30 13:34:00
lol, i feel so dumb sometimes.
but he typed in ten of them, why not the other two.....why not stop at three..........lol
shecrab
2008-03-30 16:37:00
Unknown:
The 13th item is the casques, donated by the elves (see end of poem). Egbert said:
But this isn't true.
Look at page 10. The Thirteen are mentioned below the map.
1: Elves, Trolls, Grims, Nissen and Tomtra: from Scandinavia NOT DEPICTED - (Casques)
2. Vasily Leshy Poleviki, Domivye, Vily, Ruskalki from Russia (Topaz, Image 12)
3. Dwarves, Witchl, Hutchen, Rhine Maidens from Germany (Amethyst, Image 10)
4. People O'Peace, Twors, Brownies, Silkies, Kelpies from Scotland
NOT DEPICTED
5. Sidhe, Leprechauns, Fir darrigs from Ireland (Emerald, Image 5)
6. Fairies, Pixies, Hobgoblins, Boggarts from England (Garnet, Image 3)
7. Alven, Klabautermannikins, Gnomes from Holland (Opal, Image 9)
8. Korred, Lutin, Dames Blanches, Loup Garoux from France (Turquoise, Image 7)
9. Centaurs, Nymphs, Satyrs from Greece (Aquamarine, Image 4)
10. Hadas, Duende from Spain (Sapphire, image 6)
11. Folletti, Farfarelli, Salvani, Aguane from Italy (Peridot, image 11)
12. Djinn, Peri, Deevs from Arabia (Ruby, Image
13. Tree Fairies from Africa (Diamond, image 2)
Note that there are TWO countries listed above that are not depicted: Scotland and Scandinavia.
Now what IS depicted is China, even though the map says it is not shown. So this leaves us with another puzzle: did the original puzzle include Scotland instead of China? Or did Preiss let Palencar choose which one he painted? or was there supposed to be a 13th casque hidden? It is quite obvious that the Pearl, from 'old Cathay' refers to China. Which would mean the 13th was then supposed to be Scottish. That's the only one left.
I see no evidence to support the idea that the 13th treasure is the
casques
themselves. What it says (page 20) is that the Scandinavians donated the casques
in which the 12 were kept.
The 13th jewel is simply not depicted--and it was (is) Scottish.