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Yo hunters! You want to let everyone know how sick and tired you are of someone's ideas, just put it here in this thread.  You have needs, we understand.  This is the best place to gripe so as not to upset that everprecious flow of ideas in the main threads. It's cool to vent now and again.  It's uncool to slander.  People who like to say an idea is crappy have every right to post WHY it's crappy, but when they just say it's bad, the empty qualifying statement is the most significant insult and degradation to this forum's purpose.  Let's reconsider our course of action, work together, discuss, and develop that hardcore or potential add-me to the hardcore list of possible ideas.  Let's stop petty arguing and realize that mistakes and errors in judgment are just part of the process. If you have a beef, take it to the administrators.  They do respond when there's real garbage going down. If you want to vent about me or anyone, go ahead and do it in here but try to maintain a friendly tone.  My point is that the process of making a gripe might be benificial to some extent but at the risk of clogging a thread.  Let's give that particular content some room to breath in this thread and workout those negative attitudes in a positve way. There's not a lot of people active in the threads these days.  I and a few others have been posting pretty regularly.  My presense has been the most polarizing although I have been mostly in the offering up ideas and working them in a manner to engage others and call for input, yet that hasn't been the desired effect and it's clearly a problem for some that my posts don't follow the mainstream.  Please feel free to lay it out here, let's work it out.  There should always be a place to discuss our differences.

erexere wrote:: It's cool to vent now and again. It's uncool to slander. [...] If you want to vent about me or anyone, go ahead and do it in here but try to maintain a friendly tone. erexere wrote:: Are you being childish or joking? ...what's happened that now you're okay with making such a minimal nonsensical contribution to the discussion? erexere wrote:: Your ignorance fits in wherever you like. ... Don't take this as belligerence , it's more like edgy criticism. erexere wrote:: You're confused about a lot of things it seems. Like bigmatty, you say something is insignificant only because you're ignorant. Don't be an idiot and say something doesn't look like the image if you haven't considered that it could've been achieved by a different angle. Totally agreed. Maybe you could start by talking to this guy. He's been throwing around quite a lot of insults at others here over the last few weeks.

bigmattyh wrote:: SELOY: The name of the village the FOY park sits on.  Other uncommon words from the verse are written, plainly, on signs in the park.  Also, the Fountain of Youth is a direct tie-in to the overall theme of The Secret -- the settling of the New World. SELBY: The name of an obscure, unnotable figure from an unnotable event in American history, which, requires reordering the verses and yet another layer of interpreting an anagram to get there. I'd want there to be a casque buried in my backyard, too, but this isn't it. bigmattyh, are you being rhetorical? I'm glad you could join the discussion.  I'm sorry for offending anyone. My comment to maltedfalcon still stands.  In this case it's a serious question and he can answer for himself.  He used the word 'seriously' and then made a silly statement that what I said about the FOY methodology was the same methodology I'm putting to use.  It's confusing to say the least.  On one hand, I'm referencing how many of the FOY related items have been identified with respect to their position on a map and yet nobody has formally offered a reasoning to explain their placement as the result of an intelligently organized plan.  That's the same as saying "look we've identified a bunch of points on a map, there's no clear starting point or end point".  It's like people are still guessing on where to dig.  I'm trying to understand the WHY or the structure in how someone has worked out an idea for a dig spot so that it makes some justifiable sense from THEIR interpretation of the verse and image.  Where is that part of the discussion?  So far I'm not seeing dig proposals in FOY that follow a concrete path of reasoning.  Until I do, I think it looks a little random when someone says "try to dig here".  With respect to my own process, I'm working at avoiding that sense of random guessing and I've identified the factors included in my reasoning for how I'm getting to the spot to dig.  After informing this forum of that contrast in approaches, I think it's okay to ask maltedfalcon if he's being childish or serious. When I used the word ignorant, I thought it was in the good sense and not with negative connotation.  It should be in our interest to be informed.  Ideally we come out of the process learning something new, like just this week I was mistaken or ignorant that the jewel was visible in image 7.  I thought it was setup behind the mask, or implied to be beneath the bulgy section in the lower right corner, but then pickwick pointed out it was right there in the crescent shape above the clockface.  I'm rather happy he settled that question for me, now I'm no longer ignorant of something most of the people here already knew.  In you're case bigmattyh, according to our notes relating to the Seloy/Selby discussion, after being informed of how and why I brought forth the relative points about Selby you said, I thought it was odd that you would choose to refer to the Pig War as an unnotable event in American history.  I probably shouldn't use the word 'ignorant', let's just say it's odd that you choose to say one thing is obscure and unnotable.  I see you're point and the evidence that the Fountain of Youth is a direct tie in to the Secret, however, I don't see how the Pig War is any less significant with respect to American History.  Perhaps you're making a point of the framework of the story, which is to say it adheres to it's own canon apart from what we might stumble across in the average text on American history.  I'm sorry I called you ignorant.  Don't take it the wrong way.  Now that you're rejoining the discussion, I'd like to hear more of you're thoughts, developing theories, or criticisms. As far as my dealings with fox go, I'm having fun poking back, since fox has gone out of his way to poke at me.  I'm being very childish in that case.  I'll give fox some credit though, it really has helped me try harder to make sense out of The Secret and my own developing process. My use of the word idiot wasn't directed at anyone in particular and stands very clearly in the context of how hard it is to relate to an object in 360 degrees when you're looking at it from only one direction.  I should've worded that comment better, but it's true that unless we're looking at a uniform object like a cyllinder or a sphere, then it's going to look different from different angles.  I think it raises a good point, that when looking at the Sam Hill monument OR the Haystack Rock, they do look dramatically different from different angles and so it's important to aknowledge that before dismissing my suggestion based on the criticsm that the image doesn't match the sample picture, hence I tried to offer a wider range of options in a collage of Haystack Rocks to help illustrate that point.