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I just want to point out a couple POSSIBLE misconceptions about this puzzle, and hopefully engage people in a reset discussion about how to work the puzzles. Misconception 1 - You can see more than one image confirmation at the digsite. This might have been true in the 2 that were found, but does this rule apply to every one, how would we ever know that? Is there anything in the book that tells us this? I believe that this could have been a coincidence, and since we don't know for a fact how these work, we can't make up a rule based on 2 examples. Especially when we've found large image confirmations in totally different places in the same city. Let's not make a rule when we don't know if it should be a rule. Misconception 2 - These are easy puzzles. Preiss never said these were easy, he said he feared they would all be dug up in a couple of months. I wouldn't interpret that as saying it was easy necessarily. He never said the puzzle was easy, or simple, or for kids. The only thing that might seem simple about it is he defiantly geared it towards a tourists perspective. I don't think this puzzle is easy, nor was it meant to be easy. It was meant to sell books. I'm sure BP was probably expressing the same self doubt in that interview that he felt while making the puzzle. He probably felt it was not difficult enough, when in fact, he made it fairly difficult as is. EXAMPLE We know there are 12 images and 12 verses. There is an image to match every verse says the book. So the first step, is to match each verse to each image. How do you complete step 1...you must examine all of the verses and the images. After examination...probably many times, you will either see the maps in the images, or the numbers. When you start putting the number combinations together from all ELEVEN that you find numbers in, together with the knowledge from the book that they will all be port cities, you can get 11 long/lat coordinates for correct cities out of the images....that's just the first part of step 1...(not an "easy" puzzle). Now we have 1 image with no numbers on it...but we find a puzzle, and that contains the name of the city. Has anyone thought about this... Now after figuring out the code in the 12th image, we have 12 cities, and 12 verses. Now we have to at least do some research on each city, to figure out what verse goes with that city...again, not something you can do over lunch. This new thread is an open discussion for everyone to discuss their idea's on how this puzzle works. All the newcomers who have questions and all the old folks who have idea's, why don't we open it back up from the beginning and start here again.

decibalnyc wrote:: Misconception 1 - You can see more than one image confirmation at the digsite. ...or any at all, even. If the only puzzle that had been solved was Roanoke, people would probably be insisting on a rule that every verse included a reference to something in the picture.

decibalnyc wrote:: Misconception 1 - You can see more than one image confirmation at the digsite. WhiteRabbit wrote:: ...or any at all, even. If the only puzzle that had been solved was Roanoke, people would probably be insisting on a rule that every verse included a reference to something in the picture. Seeing an/more than one image confirmation at the digsite is a different supposition than each verse including a reference to its image. Without speaking to either of those suppositions, I agree completely with your assertion, WR.

Good it seems we are getting somewhere... Now lets go back to what we learned from completing step 1 and try to apply it to the next thing we need to know...

One pattern I have seen in most of the puzzles is the math terms used with the image and verses. i am not sure if anyone else has caught on to this, but seems to fit well with the NYC and SF images.

NYCNative wrote:: One pattern I have seen in most of the puzzles is the math terms used with the image and verses. i am not sure if anyone else has caught on to this, but seems to fit well with the NYC and SF images. I am not sure what you mean?

I have notice that Chicago and Cleveland both have a line of verse which directly links to an image in the art Chicago fence and fixture too. you see the fence and fixture Cleveland search of the columns. you see the columns I feel Cleveland art was more detailed as palencar was the one who suggested it and was there when it was buried Is the Houston verse the 982?

Doghousereiley wrote:: I have notice that Chicago and Cleveland both have a line of verse which directly links to an image in the art Chicago fence and fixture too. you see the fence and fixture Cleveland search of the columns. you see the columns I feel Cleveland art was more detailed as palencar was the one who suggested it and was there when it was buried Is the Houston verse the 982? it is thought to be.

Agree.

Doghousereiley wrote:: I have notice that Chicago and Cleveland both have a line of verse which directly links to an image in the art Chicago fence and fixture too. you see the fence and fixture Cleveland search of the columns. you see the columns I feel Cleveland art was more detailed as palencar was the one who suggested it and was there when it was buried Is the Houston verse the 982? Wait, there's a train/982 in the Houston image?

but you don't actually see the 982 in the art. it is a shadow of the djinn maybe the image verse link is the spout/water veers lines

Doghousereiley wrote:: Is the Houston verse the 982? I don’t think he’d be that obvious about the hiding spot. It has to be the starting point.

Doghousereiley wrote:: I have notice[d] that Chicago and Cleveland both have a line of verse which directly links to an image in the art. NYCNative wrote:: One pattern I have seen in most of the puzzles is the math terms used with the image and verses. i am not sure if anyone else has caught on to this... Verse 11 has "To the land near the window" and some of us link that to Image 3 because the outline of Roanoke Island which is by the window in the painting. I'd love to be able to do this with every verse/image pair. I'm not sure what you mean. A math term like cosine or integral? Can you be more specific, with examples? (and how is a math term represented in an image rather than text?) Good to steer at least one discussion back to abstract basics. I need the distraction.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: a) probably best not to listen to maltedfalcon lol b) keep the gold, throw away the garbage... He's one of the best hunters here. I'd bet my money on falcon over you any day of the week.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: falcon...hahahahaha. no. just no. Josh in my opinion you have zero street creed and your posts are worthless I tip my hat to falcon. I don't believe falcon has claimed to find one yet all of the casques and ended up looking stupid coming up empty handed like Josh Cornell did in Houston and New Orleans and ......

Unknown: He's one of the best hunters here. He's certainly one of the most persistent. You should see the size of the holes he's dug. "A little digging is your task."

Maltedfalcon must have a serious shovel collection by now.

Unknown: Maltedfalcon must have a serious shovel collection by now. Maybe, but in my experience, you only need two. A short-handled, square edged nursery spade for removing the top layer, and a 4', D-handled spade for digging and removing soil quickly. Thinking about it, the 6' spade Preiss is assumed to have carried around (probably because it is shown in one of the illustrations) is one of the worst tools to use if all you are trying to do is dig a small, 3.5' deep hole discretely.

Erpobdelliforme wrote:: Maybe, but in my experience, you only need two. A short-handled, square edged nursery spade for removing the top layer, and a 4', D-handled spade for digging and removing soil quickly. Thinking about it, the 6' spade Preiss is assumed to have carried around (probably because it is shown in one of the illustrations) is one of the worst tools to use if all you are trying to do is dig a small, 3.5' deep hole discretely. You need one for everybody who comes on the dig! I carry a folding army shovel in my car trunk and I have a full size 8 inch spade with the handle cut down to fit in my trunk I also bring a tarp to put the dirt onto so as not to ruin the ground around the hole, after the dig it is easy to dump the dirt back in off the tarp. I have found that the local groundskeepers were always super friendly and loved to pitch in and help dig. (they brought there own shovels. LOL) My current dig site, no private digging allowed (too many un-authorized digs) and i have to wait until the groundskeepers can dig for me. (after march )

I use two yoga mats because its better than a tarp in windy conditions. A long skinny square trowel. A 20v cordless sawzall for perfect plug shaping and trimming the sod base to a manageable thickness. The loose dirt goes on the yoga mats.

What's best practices for getting the topsoil out. Just cut like a 2 foot square then start working the trowel underneath?

drunknerds wrote:: What's best practices for getting the topsoil out. Just cut like a 2 foot square then start working the trowel underneath? In SF down about 6 inches the soil turns into dirty sand, so it's very like digging in a sandbox. Save the sod as best you can put something down to keep the sand from getting in the grass or mulch then pour it back in when your done and put the sod back down.

drunknerds wrote:: What's best practices for getting the topsoil out. Just cut like a 2 foot square then start working the trowel underneath? I use a gardening knife to cut the sod in a sort of pyramid shape (square down to a point) then just lift the sod out. You can do it in sections of you need a really big hole. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FRGK9KM/re ... il_3?psc=1

Josh - since you have already told us exactly where the casque in New Orleans is, - under the palm in the St Anthony's Garden and You have said that all the solves are different, I assume then that describing one won't ruin your future digs. besides you have said that it is just the solving that is important, actually digging up a casque is not. Why don't you specifically tell us your solve for New Orleans, that gets you to that garden. Once you have shown us all you are correct, we will all probably just forget about that picky little cemetery thing, You seem so sure, please share your New Orleans solve.

JoshCornell1 wrote:: i will as soon as im back. its ALOT of work its so detailed and i want to do it with visuals. And yet another excuse. Something tells me we won't see that solve.