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= The Secret Podcast =
The Secret Podcast started in 2016 as a collaborative project between longtime members of Quest4Treasure.


Initially the group created a website to store image galleries consisting of all the research the group had saved over the course of 30 years, which quickly morphed into an online repository of all known information about the Secret, as well as a home for the audio version of the podcast.


'''JoEllen Trilling''' (born September 19, 1947)
== History ==


“Well-established since the 1970s for her mixed-media sculptures featuring lifelike animals and figures in outrageous, mischievous, and wry tableaux, Jo-Ellen Trilling expanded her vision into painting in 2001, inspired in part by the events of September 11th and their aftermath. Soon her oils took on a life of their own.Populated by a cast of animals, toys, and magical beings similar to those in her sculptures, her narrative paintings evoke the fairytales of the Grimm Brothers and Hans Christian Andersen. Their metaphysical aspects suggest the magical world of Alice in Wonderland and The Lord of the Rings.Inviting us in with their seeming innocence and charm, Trilling’s works gradually unfold into a more unsettling and haunting underpinning. Their multiple layers probe the subconscious and reflect the elusive, shifting, and troubling aspects of contemporary experience. While enigmatic, Trilling’s images are also at times allegorical, referring to aspects of the politics and culture of society today.”- Katherine Ashe
=== Pre-Podcast ===
In 2016 longtime hunters [[George]], [[JM]], [[Fox]], [[Wilhouse]], [[TJ]], [[Brian Zinn]], [[Andy Abrams]], and [[MaltedFalcon]] were discussing ways to combine all of their photos and site information in an easily digestible format for the general public. George created 12treasure,com, which in the beginning was simply a list of image galleries categorized by city. JM suggested a blog be created on the site to document old solutions, ideas, and digs. The team quickly switched to a podcast format. Wilhouse came up with the name "Shhh... The Secret Podcast".


==Early life==
=== Shhh... The Secret Podcast ===
{{Person_Infobox|image1=[[file:joellentrilling.jpg|200px ]]|born=September 19, 1947|education=|occupation=Sculptress|signature=[[file:Joellentrillingsignature.jpg|175px ]]|website=https://joellentrilling.com/}}
==Artistic Career==


Trilling’s paintings and dolls exemplify Magic Realism. Appearances lure and trick with bright colors but incongruous details. Whimsical, Bosch-like hybrid creatures teeter on disturbing. Winged things cling to Grimm forest trees; a live rooster hat glares from a dog doll’s head. Disquieting toys have too-round faces, and ‘steampunk’ horses advance. Strange animals peer through Alice’s looking glass. Jo-Ellen’s works have been avidly sought by private collectors, especially by prominent individuals in the entertainment world, such as Elton John, Carrie Fisher, Billy Crystal, David Letterman, Robin Williams, and Madonna, just to name a few.
The original idea behind the podcast was to create 12 individual episodes, one for each city, which packed all known information about that particular hunt into an audio record. The plan was to have one team member who was an expert on that specific city lay out all of their knowledge, and tell their stories for the community in a way which could be archived for all time. Once the original 12 city episodes were completed, JM left the podcast in order to focus on the tribute hunt.<ref>https://mysteriouswritings.com/the-secret-armchair-treasure-hunt-the-secret-podcast-and-the-end-of-an-era/</ref>
=== The Secret Podcast ===


Ms. Trilling's sculptures have been the subject of five shows at the Julie Artisans Gallery on Madison Avenue in Man-hattan, where such clients as Elton John, Ellen Burstyn, Cher, Julie Christie and Carrie Fisher have purchased them. Her sculptures have appeared in The Com-plete Book of Stuffed Work, The Beach Boys, Heavy Metal, The Soho Weekly News, Playboy, and Cue; and in the Ren-wick Gallery of the Smithsonian Museum in Washington D.C. She has taught soft sculpture in New York and Kentucky, and her work was featured twice on Bill Bogg's Midday Live television program in New York. She currently resides in New York.[[File:Julie Schafler Dale on Jo-Ellen Trilling - bonus video from STORYTELLERS episode|thumb]]
== Episodes ==


==Working Process==
=== Season 01 - 2018 ===
JoEllen's process is very freeform and without much planning.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Episode
!Title
!Hosts
!Guests
!Episode Links
|-
|01
|An Intro
|JM, George Ward
|
|[https://12treasures.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Shhh-TheSECRET-Podcast-Episode1-Pilot.mp3 Episode and transcript]
|-
|02
|Chicago
|JM, George
|
|
|-
|03
|Cleveland
|JM, George
|Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/shhh-the-secret-podcast-episode-3/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|04
|Houston pt.1
|JM, George
|Wilhouse
|
|-
|04.2
|Houston pt. 2
|JM, George
|Wilhouse
|
|-
|05
|St Augustine
|Jm, George
|
|
|-
|06
|San Francisco
|JM, George
|
|
|-
|07
|Milwaukee
|JM, George
|Savral
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/shhh-the-secret-podcast-episode-7/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|08
|New Orleans
|JM, George
|
|
|-
|09
|New York
|JM, George
|Andy Abrams, Ben Asen
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/shhh-the-secret-podcast-episode-9/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|08/21/18 Special
|Mid-Year Update
|JM, George
|Matt Sparks
|
|-
|10
|Roanoke
|JM, George
|Brian Zinn, Rob Wrobel
|
|-
|Japanese Translation
|
|George
|
|
|-
|11
|Charleston
|JM, George
|Kit Palencar
|
|-
|12
|Boston
|JM, George
|
|
|-
|13
|Montreal
|JM, George
|Fenix
|
|-
|14
|2018 wrap-up
|JM, George
|Bradley Hodges, Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams,
Kit Palencar, Matt Sparks
|
|}


==Personal life==
=== Season 02 - 2019 ===
==Bibliography==
{| class="wikitable"
==Exhibitions==
|+
*
!Episode
==Awards==
!Title
*
!Hosts
==References==
!Guests
==External links==
!Episode Links
<references />
|-
|01
|The 13th Tribute
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|Evan Hoovler
|
|-
|02
|The San Francisco Fake
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|
|
|-
|03
|Pimping the Palencars
|George Ward, Bradley Hodges
Brett Zingler
|
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/pimping-the-palencars/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|04
|Milwaukee Revisited
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|Fenix
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/milwaukee-revisted/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|05
|Digging Holes
|George Ward
|
|
|-
|06
|The San Francisco Treat
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
Bradley Hodges
|Matt Sparks
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/20-the-san-francisco-treat/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|07
|Boston Maybe?
|
|
|
|-
|08
|Meetups and Tv Shows
|Geroge Ward, Brett Zingler
Bradley Hodges
|Matt Sparks
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/21meetupsandtvshows/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|09
|Boston Yes!
|
|
|
|-
|10
|New Members Old Questions
|
|
|
|-
|11
|The Fountain of Youth Meetup
|
|
|
|}
 
=== Season 03 - 2020 ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Episode
!Title
!Hosts
!Guests
!Episode Links
|-
|01
|Hey Youz Guyz,
Let's talk Boston
|
|
|
|-
|02
|A fresh take on Charleston
|George Ward, Bradley Hodges
|Christopher Pierce, Brian Mills
|
|-
|03
|An Evening with George
|Cole May
|George Ward
|
|-
|04
|The Secret Guide to the
Fair Guide
|George Ward, Bradley Hodges
|Karleen, Seeds, Carley Perales
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/29-the-secret-guide-to-the-fair-guide/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|05
|The Secret Podcast Tonight:
Like, Totally Confused!
|George Ward, Brett Zingler, Bradley Hodges
|Kit Palencar
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/30-the-secret-podcast-tonight-like-totally-confused/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|06
|An Evening with Bradley Hodges
|George Ward
|Bradley Hodges, Laura Hodges
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/31-an-evening-with-bradley-hodges/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|07
|A Special Message From:
Overton Loyd
|Overton Loyd
|
|
|-
|08
|A Special Message From:
Ben Asen
|Ben Asen
|
|
|-
|09
|A conversation with William Stout
|George Ward
|William Stout
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/34-a-conversation-with-william-stout/ Episode and Transcript]
|-
|10
|Comparing Chicago and Cleveland
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
Bradley Hodges
|Cole May
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/35-comparing-chicago-and-cleveland/ Episode and Transcript]
|}
 
=== Season 04 - 2021 ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Episode
!Title
!Hosts
!Guests
!Episode Links
|-
|01
|The Great US Treasure Hunt
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|David Steele
|
|-
|02
|The Great US Treasure Hunt 2
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|Kristian House
|
|-
|03
|An Evening with
John Jude Palencar
|
|John Jude Palencar
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/36-an-evening-with-john-jude-palencar/ Episode]
[https://12treasures.com/podcast/36-an-evening-with-john-jude-palencar/ Transcript]
 
[https://youtu.be/Vq4BqA9VNI8 Youtube]
|-
|04
|Let's Talk Amphitheaters
|
|Stephen Poff
|[https://12treasures.com/podcast/37-lets-talk-amphitheaters/ Episode]
[https://12treasures.com/podcast/37-lets-talk-amphitheaters/ Transcript]
 
[https://youtu.be/ruvNIRTHuVw Youtube]
|-
|05
|Storyland's Hidden Treasures
|
|
|[https://youtu.be/ZpYZiOeov_U Youtube]
|-
|06
|Did We Find the Books Byron
Used to Create The Secret?
|George Ward, Bradley Hodges
|Cory Gilbert
|[https://youtu.be/eKK9bfyC77c Youtube]
|-
|07
|The NY Meetup
|George Ward, Bradley Hodges
|Ben Asen, Andy Abrams
|[https://youtu.be/FjSqh2vwMOw Youtube]
|-
|08
|The Secret of Bryon Preiss:
Documentary Review
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
|Cole May, Matt Sparks
|[https://youtu.be/Am-CymgmGgQ Youtube]
|}
 
=== Season 05 - 2022 ===
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Episode
!Title
!Hosts
!Guests
!Episode Links
|-
|01
|An Evening with Kit Palencar
|George Ward, Brett Zingler, Cole May
|Kit Palencar
|[https://youtu.be/e2sN0SwK9RA Youtube]
|-
|02
|Secret Adventures with Ben and JoEllen
|George Ward, Cole May,
Brett Zingler
|Ben Asen, JoEllen Trilling
|[https://youtu.be/OtwFhQ2soRM Youtube]
|-
|03
|Did Alex Find
the Roanoke Treasure?
|George Ward, Brett Zingler
Cole May
|Alex Sweeney
|[https://youtu.be/U6imHk-eIac Youtube]
|-
|04
|The St. Augustine One
|George Ward
|John Jude Palencar
|
|}
 
== Hosts ==
[[John Michaels|JM]] (2017-2018)
 
[[George Ward]] (2017-Current)
 
[[Brett Zingler]] (2018-Current)
 
Bradley Hodges (2019-2021)
 
[[Cole May]] (2021-2025)
 
== References ==

Latest revision as of 17:39, 26 December 2025

The Secret Podcast

The Secret Podcast started in 2016 as a collaborative project between longtime members of Quest4Treasure.

Initially the group created a website to store image galleries consisting of all the research the group had saved over the course of 30 years, which quickly morphed into an online repository of all known information about the Secret, as well as a home for the audio version of the podcast.

History

Pre-Podcast

In 2016 longtime hunters George, JM, Fox, Wilhouse, TJ, Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams, and MaltedFalcon were discussing ways to combine all of their photos and site information in an easily digestible format for the general public. George created 12treasure,com, which in the beginning was simply a list of image galleries categorized by city. JM suggested a blog be created on the site to document old solutions, ideas, and digs. The team quickly switched to a podcast format. Wilhouse came up with the name "Shhh... The Secret Podcast".

Shhh... The Secret Podcast

The original idea behind the podcast was to create 12 individual episodes, one for each city, which packed all known information about that particular hunt into an audio record. The plan was to have one team member who was an expert on that specific city lay out all of their knowledge, and tell their stories for the community in a way which could be archived for all time. Once the original 12 city episodes were completed, JM left the podcast in order to focus on the tribute hunt.[1]

The Secret Podcast

Episodes

Season 01 - 2018

Episode Title Hosts Guests Episode Links
01 An Intro JM, George Ward Episode and transcript
02 Chicago JM, George
03 Cleveland JM, George Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams Episode and Transcript
04 Houston pt.1 JM, George Wilhouse
04.2 Houston pt. 2 JM, George Wilhouse
05 St Augustine Jm, George
06 San Francisco JM, George
07 Milwaukee JM, George Savral Episode and Transcript
08 New Orleans JM, George
09 New York JM, George Andy Abrams, Ben Asen Episode and Transcript
08/21/18 Special Mid-Year Update JM, George Matt Sparks
10 Roanoke JM, George Brian Zinn, Rob Wrobel
Japanese Translation George
11 Charleston JM, George Kit Palencar
12 Boston JM, George
13 Montreal JM, George Fenix
14 2018 wrap-up JM, George Bradley Hodges, Brian Zinn, Andy Abrams,

Kit Palencar, Matt Sparks

Season 02 - 2019

Episode Title Hosts Guests Episode Links
01 The 13th Tribute George Ward, Brett Zingler Evan Hoovler
02 The San Francisco Fake George Ward, Brett Zingler
03 Pimping the Palencars George Ward, Bradley Hodges

Brett Zingler

Episode and Transcript
04 Milwaukee Revisited George Ward, Brett Zingler Fenix Episode and Transcript
05 Digging Holes George Ward
06 The San Francisco Treat George Ward, Brett Zingler

Bradley Hodges

Matt Sparks Episode and Transcript
07 Boston Maybe?
08 Meetups and Tv Shows Geroge Ward, Brett Zingler

Bradley Hodges

Matt Sparks Episode and Transcript
09 Boston Yes!
10 New Members Old Questions
11 The Fountain of Youth Meetup

Season 03 - 2020

Episode Title Hosts Guests Episode Links
01 Hey Youz Guyz,

Let's talk Boston

02 A fresh take on Charleston George Ward, Bradley Hodges Christopher Pierce, Brian Mills
03 An Evening with George Cole May George Ward
04 The Secret Guide to the

Fair Guide

George Ward, Bradley Hodges Karleen, Seeds, Carley Perales Episode and Transcript
05 The Secret Podcast Tonight:

Like, Totally Confused!

George Ward, Brett Zingler, Bradley Hodges Kit Palencar Episode and Transcript
06 An Evening with Bradley Hodges George Ward Bradley Hodges, Laura Hodges Episode and Transcript
07 A Special Message From:

Overton Loyd

Overton Loyd
08 A Special Message From:

Ben Asen

Ben Asen
09 A conversation with William Stout George Ward William Stout Episode and Transcript
10 Comparing Chicago and Cleveland George Ward, Brett Zingler

Bradley Hodges

Cole May Episode and Transcript

Season 04 - 2021

Episode Title Hosts Guests Episode Links
01 The Great US Treasure Hunt George Ward, Brett Zingler David Steele
02 The Great US Treasure Hunt 2 George Ward, Brett Zingler Kristian House
03 An Evening with

John Jude Palencar

John Jude Palencar Episode

Transcript

Youtube

04 Let's Talk Amphitheaters Stephen Poff Episode

Transcript

Youtube

05 Storyland's Hidden Treasures Youtube
06 Did We Find the Books Byron

Used to Create The Secret?

George Ward, Bradley Hodges Cory Gilbert Youtube
07 The NY Meetup George Ward, Bradley Hodges Ben Asen, Andy Abrams Youtube
08 The Secret of Bryon Preiss:

Documentary Review

George Ward, Brett Zingler Cole May, Matt Sparks Youtube

Season 05 - 2022

Episode Title Hosts Guests Episode Links
01 An Evening with Kit Palencar George Ward, Brett Zingler, Cole May Kit Palencar Youtube
02 Secret Adventures with Ben and JoEllen George Ward, Cole May,

Brett Zingler

Ben Asen, JoEllen Trilling Youtube
03 Did Alex Find

the Roanoke Treasure?

George Ward, Brett Zingler

Cole May

Alex Sweeney Youtube
04 The St. Augustine One George Ward John Jude Palencar

Hosts

JM (2017-2018)

George Ward (2017-Current)

Brett Zingler (2018-Current)

Bradley Hodges (2019-2021)

Cole May (2021-2025)

References

  1. ↑ https://mysteriouswritings.com/the-secret-armchair-treasure-hunt-the-secret-podcast-and-the-end-of-an-era/
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