When The picture below and the painting lined up with the:
monument, tree and billboard to the
womans outline, rose and clock
Eljayo…Good observation.  However
I
am going to contend that you actually have to flip the girl around to match the monument properly from this vantage point. By doing that, she is actually pointing at the rose and the clock.  You cannot flip the rose and the clock because it has the water in the background
I
got pretty excited.
It was time to take the next step.
Reviewing the last part
of
the the poem which reads:
Giant Pole
Giant Step
To the place
The casque is kept.
I
started to think my connections
of
the picture to the image might be correct!
Before
I
had been looking for pictures on Angel Island for Flag poles.  The thing that bothered me though was the giant step part.  How big is a giant step?  The only way that could make sense is that it would have to be in the image.
Then it hit me.  Could the “Giant pole” in this case be the palm tree?
The Billboard is postioned another 15ft behind the tree..  and you have to cross a 10 ft wide paved trail to get to it.
Could the “Giant step” be a figurative statement that you must step over the paved trail?
Since
I
couldn’t go there,
I
decided to get in contact with the Park Service.
I
got in touch with the Park Superintedant
of
Angel Island. This is no joke …Dave Matthews.
I
told him about the treasure hunt and that
I
thought there was something buried in the park.
I
sent him the picture and the peom and we discussed what
I
thought was a pretty good solution.
The solution being that
I
thought the casque was buried underneath the billboard.
I
asked him about the billboard and he said:
“it’s a billboard that has some information about park events and information about the island.
Year’s ago there used to be a Fire Hose on the back
of
it”
😮
My question to everyone is:  What is the object holding up the table in the image?
I
think, and it’s been mentioned before, it’s a fire hose nozzle.
Here are the pictures again:

When The picture below and the painting lined up with the:
monument, tree and billboard to the
womans outline, rose and clock
Eljayo…Good observation.  However I am going to contend that you actually have to flip the girl around to match the monument properly from this vantage point. By doing that, she is actually pointing at the rose and the clock.  You cannot flip the rose and the clock because it has the water in the background
I got pretty excited.
It was time to take the next step.
Reviewing the last part of the the poem which reads:
Giant Pole
Giant Step
To the place
The casque is kept.
I started to think my connections of the picture to the image might be correct!
Before I had been looking for pictures on
Angel
Island for Flag poles.  The thing that bothered me though was the giant step part.  How big is a giant step?  The only way that could make sense is that it would have to be in the image.
Then it hit me.  Could the “Giant pole” in this case be the palm tree?
The Billboard is postioned another 15ft behind the tree..  and you have to cross a 10 ft wide paved trail to get to it.
Could the “Giant step” be a figurative statement that you must step over the paved trail?
Since I couldn’t go there, I decided to get in contact with the Park Service.
I got in touch with the Park Superintedant of
Angel
Island. This is no joke …Dave Matthews.
I told him about the treasure hunt and that I thought there was something buried in the park.  I sent him the picture and the peom and we discussed what I thought was a pretty good solution.
The solution being that I thought the casque was buried underneath the billboard.
I asked him about the billboard and he said:
“it’s a billboard that has some information about park events and information about the island.
Year’s ago there used to be a Fire Hose on the back of it”
😮
My question to everyone is:  What is the object holding up the table in the image?
I think, and it’s been mentioned before, it’s a fire hose nozzle.
Here are the pictures again:

Please note the following:
http://www.parks.ca.gov/lat_long_map/de … lvl_id=105
You can not see the ‘GH’ from Angel Island.

Have you not followed the logic to my solution?

If you are thinking of going there to dig.  Don’t.
You have to get permission first.  I tried.  The park superintendent informed me a couple months ago that that area is under construction and is totally roped off.
They are actually moving the monument to a new location and reconstructing the immigration station that burnt down decades ago.

Things to think:
-Could ‘Gh’ be there for tell us the image is a mirror?
There is some things pointing us to SF: ‘Gh’, Coit tower (with shape as fire hose -> object holding up the table), SF bay, Golden Gate, and more, but this monument seem as pointing us the burial site (a match with lady shape).
May be is needed more work with verses to complete the idea…
-In google: define: pole -> a square rod (16,5ft) of land , i,e -> 272 ft
2
then, monument is in a pole?
Giant step -> leaping from square border to wall in lady’s finger directions?
Just some ideas to share and discuss…
It’s time that another casque see the sun’s light!!!

ac3100

If you are thinking of going there to dig.  Don’t.
You have to get permission first.  I tried.  The park superintendent informed me a couple months ago that that area is under construction and is totally roped off.
They are actually moving the monument to a new location and reconstructing the immigration station that burnt down decades ago.

bad news!!!

ac3100

Have you not followed the logic to my solution?

Yep, I have.  Just do not think that is the location.
Photo of the sign:
http://www.virtuar.com/ysf2/ap-Ghirardelli.htm
A closer view, with something interesting in the foreground
(maybe too recent an addition)
http://www.virtuar.com/ysf2/ap-Ghirardelli.htm
I agree that this figure is a mirror image of the casque site
(where in SF that would be?)
I think that with the orientation of ‘Alcatraz’, the casque site would
be to the south.
Angel Island may be the mass behind the Alcatraz portion.
(Under the many moons)
I see the China woman standing on a flat shoreline,
a small channel of water, Alcatraz, and then a larger stretch of
water, and another rocky island.
Here is the view from Aquatic Park:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hist … c_Park.jpg
In your solve, with the Immigration Station, you disregard
the serpent/dragon.

ah, I see now, heavy news…very heavy.
Do giants dream of reading giant Kindles?

Glossiphoniidae

Oregonian…. I would also ask that you not include any PDF copies of the book on the wiki, regardless of their completeness. The documents were created illegally and the person who made them is not too keen on there dispersion. Especially when they are PDFs created with pirated Adobe software, and the data on the files allows for the creator to be identified. The creator might also have intended the file(s) to be used by those in a small group that already owned the book, and not the general public.

The PDF on the wiki was put up there by White Rabbit in October of 2013. What makes you think it was done with “pirated Adobe software”? I haven’t examined the file very closely, but it looks to me like it was just produced with an ordinary scanner and some OCR software and then saved as a PDF.
I don’t know enough about publishing laws to know whether the PDF is illegal, so I’ll just have to rely on common sense here. When
The Secret
was out-of-print and unavailable, it made sense to have the text available on the wiki as a PDF. No copies of the book were being sold by the publisher, and therefore no one involved in the book was losing any royalties when people got the book in other ways. But now an electronic version of
The Secret
is being sold through Amazon’s Kindle eBooks (for $19!) and the profits are (presumably) going to some of the original authors. So now it does seem unfair to make a PDF of the book available on the wiki for free. So, as of this morning, I have removed the link.
If White Rabbit or anyone else wants to weigh in, I’d be interested to hear what you think.

Oregonian

I don’t know enough about publishing laws to know whether the PDF is illegal, so I’ll just have to rely on common sense here. When
The Secret
was out-of-print and unavailable, it made sense to have the text available on the wiki as a PDF.

Law and common sense do not work hand-in-hand. Ignorance of the law is no defense. Apply your same rationale to digging… “But officer, I didn’t know enough about city ordinance to know that I couldn’t dig here. I thought since nobody was around, it was OK.”
Derp.

Glossiphoniidae

Law and common sense do not work hand-in-hand. Ignorance of the law is no defense.

As I said above, I’m not the person who created the PDF or posted it on the wiki, so I doubt I’m in much legal jeopardy from whoever bought the intellectual property rights of Byron Preiss Visual Publications and ibooks Inc. Common sense and courtesy are the guidelines in this situation, and I’ve removed the link from the main page on the wiki. (Thank you for pointing out the problem.) I think we should probably go further and take the PDF completely off the wiki, but I’d like to give White Rabbit a chance to weigh in before we do that.
Most of the text of the book still seems to be available online in other places, including
here on the Q4T website
, but there’s nothing I can do about that. I can take the links to those sources off the front page of the wiki, but I can’t take down the content and people will still be able to find it in seconds using a Google search.

I think you’re missing the point.I think we’re wondering where you draw the line between fair use in a public forum and what your establishing as a more self serving benefit from others IP. Who controls the secretWiki? Whats its purpose if at this point it becomes selective over its contributers?

Euhirudinea

On this, we will have to agree to disagree.

Nope, we can agree on this as well,
I realized last night, I missed something. Time to break out my shovel!

maltedfalcon

Nope, we can agree on this as well,
I realized last night, I missed something. Time to break out my shovel!

I added the PDF version of the book to the wiki, but I didn’t create it. So if someone would prefer it taken down, then best take it down.
(I kind of assumed the Kindle version was a ripoff. I don’t know whether it’s based on the Q4T version as I haven’t downloaded it, but since the blurb they’ve used on the Amazon page was nicked from the summary Forest wrote for the wiki, it seems quite likely. The person to ask would be John Colby of
Brick Tower Press
, who owns the rights.)

Oregonian

so I doubt I’m in much legal jeopardy from whoever bought the intellectual property rights of Byron Preiss Visual Publications and ibooks Inc.

Better check your facts, as administrator of the wiki, you have taken on responsiblity for the content. if copyrighted material is used and you allow it to stay, the law comes down on you.

To be fair, MF, I think newcomers to the book who discover the wiki are now more likely to become engaged in the puzzle and subsequently discover your theories on it via Q4T, than they would have before.
Re: copyright, if anyone cared I think they would have said so by now. If they do complain, all you have to do is take the stuff down. No-one’s doing time for posting up a few jpegs.
Maybe we could have some kind of requests thread here where people could discuss proposed changes. But it seems a little harsh to start complaining about the wiki now when it’s been allowed to drift into dereliction for years.
As for you erexere, you don’t care, you’ve got an urbansmurfing wiki of your own!

WhiteRabbit

To be fair, MF, I think newcomers to the book who discover the wiki are now more likely to become engaged in the puzzle and subsequently discover your theories on it via Q4T, than they would have before.
As for copyright, if anyone cared I think they would have complained by now. If they do complain, all you have to do is take the stuff down. No-one’s doing time for posting up a few jpegs.
Maybe we could have some kind of requests thread here where people could discuss proposed changes. But it seems a bit unfair to start complaining about the wiki now when it’s been allowed to drift into dereliction for years.

Well you are correct about that! But my complaints wern’t about that, my complaints were I updated the wiki with facts about previous hunts, and my changes were removed because they didn’t fit the new admins theories. Neither here nor there, now I will stick to updating on Q4T
BP magnanimously allowed the wiki and pages like it to stay up. There are new owners though and they paid for the rights. Just because they haven’t complained yet doesn’t mean they won’t. One of the requirements for keeping a copyright is actively defending it.
while Q4t is a reference site, with much more information then just The Secret, that means, it falls under the fair use clause of copyright law, the majority of images and text on the wiki is straight out of the book. Its a derivative work dedicated only to the secret book , If the owners ever wanted they could contact pbworks and the whole site would disappear overnight.
If the documentary stirs up enough interest that could happen. So new interest comes with a mixed blessing.

Unknown

Unknown:
I sincerely doubt that this verse image combination is formulated differently than the two found casques.

Unknown

Unknown:
Especially when there exists a solution for SF that exactly matches the methodology used in those.

Unknown

Unknown:
and this is how SF works, with the unfortunate realization the casque is no longer accessible.

I could not agree more.
I agree with this as well.
On this, we will have to agree to disagree.

Actually now that I think about it was you who drew my attention to this feature and I disregarded it. I will pm you.

I’m seriously dense…
There are so many objects of Twains attention. how to choose which one?
The object of twains attention is the one that shows prominently in the image. duh!

table rose pocket watch?
Fortune telling?
Mysticism?

Goldengate

To me, the most compelling thing is the shape of the parking lot and the orientation of the circular pond…

It seems like everyone ignores the fact that the platform that the pearl sits on is not circular but hexagonal.

Choice

It seems like everyone ignores the fact that the platform that the pearl sits on is not circular but hexagonal.

It appears that what’s under the pearl is a shadow , and giving the illusion that the pearl is high up.

Choice

It seems like everyone ignores the fact that the platform that the pearl sits on is not circular but hexagonal.

Can you further explain this,
“platform” you mean below the neck area? or the collar of the dress?

Spiritr

“platform” you mean below the neck area? or the collar of the dress?

I mean the blue hexagon:

that’s a….hexagon?
btw, there’s a hexagon shaped flower bed in the area near my interest spot, I even ask the Park Gardener for the plan, it’s only 2′ in depth
furthermore… they had a voluntary program with the elementary school nearby, kids will re-pot and change the soils there annually…

Isn’t it? Perhaps try looking at an original book and let us know.

Choice

The leg indicates the start and finish of the puzzle. The Gate is the start and the round handle on the left and the dark leaf on the right side together is the ending.
Here’s another way of looking at the table leg:

To expand on my dragon’s gate hypothesis, looking at the G, there may be a dragon’s head inside making it dragon’s G.
And h on the other side spells hill. I think there’s a head or something inside the “h” too.

Heck, that’s no minor problem…I think my theory is trashed…but something might be salvaged.  The area in SF called little Tokyo maybe?  I think something close to GGB or where the Relocation process took place might be a direction to look into.
I’m went off track looking at various camp sites.  I’d still like to see verse 10 go with this.

Little Tokyo is downtown and there really arent any parks there.
any way however this turns out I’m almost sure its still image 1 verse 7, and the golden gate headlands.
I will let you know after I go dig..

actully when you think about the map of the golden gate on her forhead pratically screams Golden Gate Headlands….

Jambone

I was in San Fran last month for work, but found a little time to do some sightseeing. I didn’t have The Secret on my mind at all. We took the Powell Street cable car up to Fisherman’s Wharf, and as we neared the wharf, I saw a portion of the big Ghirardelli Square sign from the back (and to the side). All I could see was the “Gh” and maybe the “i” due to other buildings and trees, and it instantly reminded me of this image. It happened so fast, but it struck me that the “G” and “h” in this image are also reversed, and maybe this is why. One of the SF photos that Preiss gave JJP from which to paint the picture must have been taken from a point south of Ghirardelli Square. Here’s about the only picture I can find from behind the sign, but it has fewer obstructions.

Agreed completely. I also think the Ghirardelli sign is fundamental in linking the image to verse 7 with “At stone wall’s door The air smells sweet”. Its quite possibly giving you a starting point not unlike the three stories of mitchell.
I think the view from atop the hill is to the reversed GH is important

Choise: I have the original, not the new print (I agree on that one being only good for the story, not the images), and I even measured it to be sure, mine is straight on the page.
So I don’t think there’s any meaning in it… sorry. Maybe someone can double check for you ?
Thank you Spiritr for the picture, That’s the line I meant as well. glad to hear we’re all talking about the same line
(sorry the youtube link didn’t work. probably only works in europe…)
Maltedfalcon: you say it is folded, did someone tell you, or was it mentioned somewhere or is it a theory? It would be cool if it was folded (like those fold-in MAD covers). I’ve tried ‘digitally’ fold it onto the other lines, but I’m not getting anything interesting though… I was hoping to find a new shape that would lead us somewhere.. (if it’s painted on board, that woud not fold very well, he could still have made the line there on purpose though, to make us fold the printed version)
It could also be a later add-on, which would explain it being so different in shape from the rest. If the picture had stopped at the line, it would have made more sense size wise (although still narrow compared to the rest). But I’m wondering if the line would have been visible after being painted over… Does anyone have information about the material these were painted on (paper/board/canvas?) and what paint JJP used for these (oil/acrylic?) ? It looks like acrylic on board to me (like he usually uses, most paintings in his book Origins are ) …
Either way the line is there, not just in the print.

You must have one of the new prints. I read the feedbacks and didn’t get one. They’re good only for the written parts.
Original version still becomes available occasionally
https://tinyurl.com/y7qkxkrn

Spiritr

whatever that line is,

Has anyone else noticed in the SF image where the dragons head should be there is a large profile of a man’s head looking to the left side of the image?

Spiritr

Choice, try applying it with the Japanese hints, maybe it’ll help

Which Japanese hint specifically are you referring to? The chicken thing? That would toss us back to GGP.
There still isn’t a consensus on which verse to use with image 1.

mariska

The upper line is a fold line where the painting was folded

Hey Maltedfalcon,
Do you mean the line at the top, through the rocks?
How do you know it has been folded?
If you look at the original painting, it’s also there. (see image from the expedition unknown video at 25.45 minutes)
It almost looks like it were two pieces of board/paper put together or something… like JJP started with a rectangular painting and decided he had to fit the moons and door in later or something…
expedition unknown video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7pyMi9TiX8

Hey mariska, I can’t open the youtube because it says the copyright is not valid or something like that. The line at the top is just the separation of the water-like part from the rocks. The center line shows up as a purposeful and intentional part of the image and not a fold.

Choice

You must have one of the new prints. I read the feedbacks and didn’t get one. They’re good only for the written parts.
Original version still becomes available occasionally
https://tinyurl.com/y7qkxkrn

Yes, this new book is pretty much crap. I can’t believe I bought it, but I just had to get it. The art work was so beautiful and I was hoping I was going to find something close to the original. I would love to find a first edition but I can’t pay what people are asking on ebay etc. I don’t think many were printed. I can see how much better the images look from the link you have posted.

prospector

The line at the top is just the separation of the water-like part from the rocks. The center line shows up as a purposeful and intentional part of the image and not a fold.

Maltedfalcon means the fold shown by the red arrow that goes all the way across not the water line.
https://imgur.com/8Qi91C4

Choice

Which Japanese hint specifically are you referring to? The chicken thing? That would toss us back to GGP.
There still isn’t a consensus on which verse to use with image 1.

Carefully read everything one more time, I’m sure you can figure it out
.
Oh, btw, if you like Japanese cuisine, have you ever tried their Curry dishes?
next time if you’re having Japanese food, see if they have this one on their menu
Chicken 그囗У木”

Choice

Another perspective: Verse 7
Giant pole and Giant step may not be objects like big flag pole or big steps or a leap.
Similar to “Running north, but first across” that describes the direction of a street, “Giant pole Giant step To the place” is giving us the name of a street to the place; where “giant pole giant step” is the name of the street. Just have to decipher it.
For example, 2 Giant makes Giants, and pole step scrambled makes people St.
Many possibilities. Have fun!

Since I got crickets (as usual) I’ll expand on my thought:
Giant Pole
I’m looking for a street or location name. Something like St., Ave., Cl., BLVD, Pl.
Pole contains P+L and also sound like Pl.
Now a bit of scrabble work for the rest of the letters that would sound like Giant.
I came up with Genoa, It.
Put it all together and you get Genoa, It. Pl.
Genoa, Italy is the birthplace of Columbus.
At the foot of the Telegraph hill (Coit), across from the Garfield Elementary is Genoa Pl.
https://tinyurl.com/ybxe5vwu

Choice

Maltedfalcon means the fold shown by the red arrow that goes all the way across not the water line.
https://imgur.com/8Qi91C4

Hey,
Thanks
Ok, That may be a fold or some sort of imperfection. I have no guess on what that is.

Don’t have patience for games

Spiritr

whatever that line is,

It looks like the Image 1 painting is behind glass in its frame and matting (with the top curve, that’s not a cheap framing job, either).
The dark line could a picture rail molding on the wall of JJP’s studio, behind the camera position.
Note that there is no reflection on the unframed image to the right of the Image 1 painting.

Choice, try applying it with the Japanese hints, maybe it’ll help

Kalessin

It looks like the Image 1 painting is behind glass in its frame and matting (with the top curve, that’s not a cheap framing job, either).
The dark line could a picture rail molding on the wall of JJP’s studio, behind the camera position.
Note that there is no reflection on the unframed image to the right of the Image 1 painting.

Spiritr

Chicken 그囗У木”

Choice

Original version still becomes available occasionally
https://tinyurl.com/y7qkxkrn

I think the framing was done well after the photo was taken for the book. Notice there’s a line frame around the painting in the book that is most likely under the matting. Unless it was added graphically later.
I think if it was done on canvas, it was stretched improperly, perhaps overstretched at that area. Also again it looks to me like it’s not standing straight compared to the frame. Need to rotate that too!
Chicken = pollo, reads like polo (field in GGP) meaning pole
This one is a bit beat up but Spiritr might want it!

whatever that line is,

Choice

Another perspective: Verse 7
Giant pole and Giant step may not be objects like big flag pole or big steps or a leap.
Similar to “Running north, but first across” that describes the direction of a street, “Giant pole Giant step To the place” is giving us the name of a street to the place; where “giant pole giant step” is the name of the street. Just have to decipher it.
For example, 2 Giant makes Giants, and pole step scrambled makes people St.
Many possibilities. Have fun!

I like your thinking Choice. When trying to decipher some of the words in the verses I think there are words used with more than the obvious definition and sometimes we need look at other definitions of words….noun, verb, adjective.
When I looked at this part of the Verse specifically I noticed that the word “place” also means “seat”. My spot at Aquatic Park is that far East entrance before you enter down into the East Bleachers (Giant Step), which are seats. This was one of the clues that helped solidify my solves for Image 1.

Choice

Another perspective: Verse 7
Giant pole and Giant step may not be objects like big flag pole or big steps or a leap.
Similar to “
Running
north, but first across” that describes the direction of a street, “Giant pole Giant step To the place” is giving us the name of a street to the place; where “giant pole giant step” is the name of the street. Just have to decipher it.
For example, 2 Giant makes Giants, and pole step scrambled makes people St.
Many possibilities. Have fun!

I like your thinking Choice. When trying to decipher some of the words in the verses I think there are words used with more than the obvious definition and sometimes we need look at other definitions of words….noun, verb, adjective.
When I looked at this part of the Verse specifically I noticed that the word “place” also means “seat”. My spot at Aquatic Park is that far East entrance before you enter down into the East Bleachers (Giant Step), which are seats. This was one of the clues that helped solidify my solves for Image 1.

I’m really starting to believe this is verse 2.
The Gh really fits the Ghiradeli square at the north side.  Follow the roads south looking for landmarks along the way Brings you in the direction of Tanforan in San Bruno.  In 1951 the South San Fran High School was established at the 400B site where there is a football field with three tall light posts.  Their team is the Warriors and use an Indian Chief head with feathers as their emblem.
I think the mountains in the background represent having to pass to the other side of San Bruno mountain region to get to the location.

Could be, until we find a casque all theories are equal.

The aerial image looks about 15 rows on the home stand.  Right now I’m wondering if “rose” on a “stand” from where you “watch” the football game is how we should read this image.

Ok,
Here’s a giant leap, but maybe we were focused in on the main part of GG park!  I really think the link is “an object of Twain’s attention”  I did a search and Mark Twain lived in San Francisco for awhile.  He wrote about many things (events), one that made me think was  THE CLIFF HOUSE.  Well, after much difficulty looking on the web for current pictures, I found this site:  http://www.virtuar.com/ysf2/ap-ocean-beach.htm  (I think that’s the address).
Right in front of the main restaurant of the cliff house (there are numerous things there now)  IS A TOTEM POLE!  And, if you take a step, there is a drop of around 5 feet.  I’d say that was a giant step.  And here’s the key:  That whole area is considered GG park now.
Can someone there check to see if there is any validity to my search/reasoning? Thanks.
ABQRAM

This is absolutely a possiblility
the arched window in the cliff matches the windows in the tower of the original cliff house.
the cliffs in the picture look just like the ones cliff house is on or seal rock near cliff house.
Unfortunately (don’t know when the last time you were at cliff house) but Cliff house is closed and fenced off and undergoing major renovations (including new landscaping)
There was absolutely no way of getting in there.
Mark twain did write about cliff house- (he lived in san francisco for 2 years and was quite prolific. I made a list of the objects of Twains attention. using golden gate park as the center. and it was quite easy to find something Twain wrote about in every single direction. (except due south)
which makes sense because at the time there wasn’t really anything south of Golden Gate Park.

This is absolutely a possiblility
the arched window in the cliff matches the windows in the tower
of
the original cliff house.
the cliffs in the picture look just like the ones cliff house is on or seal rock near cliff house.
Unfortunately (don’t know when the last time you were at cliff house) but Cliff house is closed and fenced off and undergoing major renovations (including new landscaping)
There was absolutely no way
of
getting in there.
Mark twain did write about cliff house- (he lived in san francisco for 2 years and was quite prolific.
I
made a list
of
the objects
of
Twains attention. using golden gate park as the center. and it was quite easy to find something Twain wrote about in every single direction. (except due south)
which makes sense because at the time there wasn’t really anything south
of
Golden Gate Park.

Hi folks!
A friend of mine (who chats here often) brought me into the game.  Looks like alot of fun.  I’ve been concentrating on image 1 coupled with verse 7.  I used to live in SF and much of what was posted was what I was thinking as well.
Let’s get down to it:  Fulton st equals the object of Twain’s attention (steamboat).  Picture one reveals Lincon’s head, Lincoln Way.  These streets are on either side of GG park.  The lady’s cover (dragon) is of the GG park.  The bars in the mountain is Alcatraz prison (the rock).  And the air smelling sweet is Ghiradelli Square, corresponding to the G and h on the lady’s cover.  Also, there are 11 moons in the background, which to me equals Appllo 11 and the USS Hornet, which was used to retrieve the capsule, is docked accross the bay.
Now I believe that the treasure is hidden in Golden Gate Park, below route 1 (near ace is high, running north) which cuts through the park, but above north lake, which is shown in the picture.  So we’ve cut the look in half.
Ok, let’s get more specific:  I believe that the place to look between these two landmarks is 32nd and 34th street or 43rd street.  I say this because the lady in the picture is pointing to either 34 or 43 and if you look at her cover, the roman numerals correspond until you get to 3 and 2.
Could one of those people located in the Bay area look in the park between these streets and see if there is any kind of pole or giant step?
Thanks.
ABQRAM

Hi, welcome to the hunt
Looked all around fulton and 34/43
North Lake – found neither a giant pole or a giant step.
Matt Sparks

Well shoot, that’s demoralizing!
I was just talking to my friend and I know there’s a totem pole in the park.  Is that located in this area?  Also, within the Japanese garden there is a buddist temple, could that be construed as a pole?
ABQRAM

There was a totem pole
it is no longer there-
and I have dug entirerly around it from 0-5 feet (
a giant step.
I had to get permission from the park service  but they were really helpful
The one place I really thought it would be was  toward fulton avenue in front of the totem pole base –
unfortunately at some time in the past a larger trencher was used in the area and an irrigation pipe (pvc) so not too many years ago –  The trencher wouldve run right through were I thought the casque would be.
I was quite depressed to find this, but you cant imagine the excitement when the shovel blade hit something plastic….
Also very heavy equipment was used in the area in 1986 when they took down the totem pole.
The japanese garden is an avenue worth exploring. haven’t gone over there at all.

Sorry,
I’m reading all the work you did and just catching up.  Could the Giant Step be tied in with Apollo 11?  (One small step for man, on giant leap for mankind).  And the discoverer of the North pole is by the Great Highway.  These are markers.  The key is the .  I don’t think its Fulton.  I’ll throw out something in a bit, after some research.
ABQRAM

dug by the admunsen (north Pole) monument-
very hard dirt – nothing to find.
The hornet wasn’t in Alameda in 1981/82
Always good to hear new ideas.
just in general – though the picture gets you to an area-
the verse takes you in to the casque
People are making good progress with V7 and New Orleans-
it seems to match there just as well-
so I am trying other verses with SF to see if anything else fits.
Any ideas?

Hey, I really like the giant step being related to Apollo 11, Neil Armstrong.
Is there anything that would relate to Armstrong, or Apollo or 11?
wilhouse

Harley Quinn

https://archive.org/details/SanFrancisco1955CinemascopeFilm
San Francisco (1955 Cinemascope film)
Love seeing the classic cars.

Thanks for sharing the old film. I was quite amused.
Notice the population in the ’50s

prospector

That is one long url. I couldn’t open it. Do you have a graphic that points to what you are talking about. I like what you are saying. I can see a similar figure in the rocks, but I’m not sure I am seeing the same thing.

This better ?
https://tinyurl.com/y9zy5lv6

Choice

He who runs in front of the bus gets “tired”, and the one who runs after it gets “exhausted”.
I do like the resemblance a lot, however it looks like the bow on his sash (or his hands) form a lotus that’s commonly associated with Buddha.
Or it may be a lion or foo dog paw, similar to the ones at the Dragon’s Gate. Notice one of the nails is broken. Is there a statue with damaged toe?

yeah you’re right is does look like a bit like a paw (with one toe, pointing at a fold ?) , you mean this one on the gate?
I also think the black straight line above the ‘paw’ and the shoulder part are strangely shaped… no idea what that means.
I was kinda hoping for a statue of Confucius in San Francisco being an exact match for the man in the mountain
… wishful thinking …

Choice
Great find with that angle of the top rock and Pier 43. Also like what you’ve come up with as far as the square and triangle being 4 sides and 3 sides for 43.
mariska
I believe a lot of the clues can be seen from the dig spot itself but some are also waymarkers getting you to the spot without being able to see it necessarily. I see Pier 43 as the starting point to this puzzle. Other clues that members have found help put the puzzles pieces together with the Verse.

https://archive.org/details/SanFrancisco1955CinemascopeFilm
San Francisco (1955 Cinemascope film)
Love seeing the classic cars.

mariska

I’ve always been wondering about that man in the mountains…
It’s been the first thing that I noticed looking at this picture.
A little while ago I was going over the Cleveland find and thought I’d explore the other cultural gardens a bit more. And realized that the statues there obviously would represent the most ‘logical’ people of those countries to include in a puzzle. So for China that would be Confucius… Ever since I’ve seen the man as Confucius, what do you think ?
That is one long url. I couldn’t open it. Do you have a graphic that points to what you are talking about. I like what you are saying. I can see a similar figure in the rocks, but I’m not sure I am seeing the same thing.
“When a wise man points at the moon the idiot looks at the finger.”
― Confucius

Just to add an extra morsel to The Maritime Park theory.
Sounds from above!
KFOG Radio 104.5 once operated from The Ghirardelli Clock Tower.
Also on the 4th Floor of Maritime Museum is a Radio Room.
Now for my Pareidolia moment!
The blue, bird like blob and cannon shape to the upper right of the image can be found amongst the Intaglio carvings at entrance to museum.
During the History of the Museum, it has been Baths, Casino, and served as a base for the US Airforce during WW2. ( Aces High?)
The Senior Centre also have offices located there. Is the Dragon/ Phoenix their logo?
Inside the entrance hall is this mural :-
https://imgur.com/a/SHv44eu?s=sms
Note the blue bubble blob on the left with yellow moon tailed fish beneath. Also note the crepuscular style rays which are depicted throughout most of these Hilaire Hiler
Murals. Now looking at pages 64 and 65 of The Book. ‘ The West Ghost ‘This shows a group in a Bath Tub ( including an old guy trying to make sense of modern technology, haha.) with a ‘genie?’ floating on a vaporous trail, very similar to the mural, including the moon slither shape and searchlight beams in the distance!
Giant Pole, Giant Step.
From the Maritime Museum take a Giant Step towards Black point?
A Giant Pole ( beam ) of light would emit from the Searchlight structure that also has the appearance of a single Giant Step.?
Image has a Blackened fore finger that points at block 4 on sleeve.
Black point, Pier 4.
The Images forehead has a similar shape to the small protuberance on which the Searchlight stands. The end of her nose is almost the same shape as the shelter top.
Could her very straight, bright nose be a beam ( Pole ) of light?
( turn image upside down )
Note the reflected areas of her cheeks, neck/chest and arm tops. And the shadow cast beneath the haloed pearl.
…..Halcon..

Choice

So the other night Linda S of wiki suggested that we should take a closer look at Grace Cathedral and Huntington park area because her nephew saw Grace written by the dragon. I know Scrappy was looking at that area once. I think this is what she’s referring to:

That “r” requires too much suspension of my disbelief

catherwood

Did I miss the full report on this find? Did you gather pieces? Plexiglass is probably too generic to compare to other plastic samples, but the pottery could be analyzed. Did you post any photos of these artifacts?

Hey sorry, I’ve definitely not been posting enough since I found it. Had a lot of business crop up.
Choice’s immediate response to this was super accurate: There’s plexi and ceramic everywhere. Immediately after finding some pieces, we contacted Burnstyle. Even over the phone we found some differences between my ceramic (which were actually two different types of clay) and that of the found casques. To be sure, I mailed them to burnstyle. Nope, not casques.
What I learned most was how a switch flips in people’s brains from “I don’t care” to “obsessed” because of things we didn’t know happen all the time. I had no idea if you rake over ground in a public park, you can probably find lots of plexi and clay shards. Who would? And watching my friend stumble out to the senior center, only because he hadn’t seen me in a year and we had had 3 IPAs each and he wanted to see what ol’ crazy Drunk Nerds was up to… to “Whoa… you said these two substances would be here if the bulldozer destroyed a cask… and they’re here! Whoa!”
It really opened my eyes as to the unique factors that make this hunt something people obsess about for 40 years.

Halcon

Image has a Blackened fore finger that points at block 4 on sleeve.
Black point, Pier 4.

What do you mean by Pier 4? The small pier next to the Maritime cove?

Choice

What do you mean by Pier 4? The small pier next to the Maritime cove?

Pier 4
http://reelsf.com/reelsf/2014/6/7/the-h … y-alcatraz

So the small pier next to the cove.

That would certainly suffice as an explanation for the blackened pointing fore finger. And the three other finger denoting Fort Masons Piers 1-2-3. Pier 4 was not only used to transport prisoners to Alcatraz but was also open to fishermen during the 1980’s. The Dragons head fits into the shape with its snout pointing to The Searchlight. Also look at the space between her forefinger and middle finger. You will find that pier 4 forms that same shape as the gap. The wall around the Searchlight also has the same shape as the pushed out gold line at the Dragons Snout.
…..Halcon…

Thanks for your Fabulous input, yet again, bbi

I just hope your suggestion doesn’t send a bunch of jack asses with their probes to that dangerous cliff area. Author specifically mentioned it won’t be at any life-threatening location.

Choice

I just hope your suggestion doesn’t send a bunch of jack asses with their probes to that dangerous cliff area. Author specifically mentioned it won’t be at any life-threatening location.

That’s absolutely a fair point Choice, and to confirm Durian’s comment. The whole of this park is under GGNRA jurisdiction and is a complete no dig/probe zone and people caught will be punished for vandalism.

“Oyez-Oyez-Oyez,!” Or in other words “ Hear ye-Hear ye Hear ye!..So listen up all you potential Jackass probers and diggers!…. Do Not probe and or Dig, Anywhere on GGNRA supervised areas, which include Historical Monuments situated at Fort Mason without the appropriate permissions and permits in place. The Searchlight looks to be in quite a perilous position very close to a steep edge. Do not be stupid enough to endanger yourself, and do not risk being locked up by the GGNRA.
DO NOT PROBE OR DIG THIS AREA!!!
Thanks for pointing this out Dorian. Very grateful.
……Halcon….

Attention survivors of dead or injured seekers: Contact Halcon for damage recovery!

maltedfalcon

I just see El Cid

I see a bolder with a sea lion on it.
Are you saying that’s a horse’s ass?
And those may be maidens carrying the horse’s ass. No wonder she’s going “poooff…”

Choice

Dude! Take your Prozac already.
Menopausal men, they are the worst. Old crank!

LMAO! What’s wrong troll, you mad!? Prozac!? Menopausal? Old crank!? Haha! So original.
Still name calling I see. Man up. Learn how to debate and take criticism.

When you can bring something, anything to the table let me know Kavanaugh …
You like beer… Boof much?!
Messing with you angry lil man. lighten up.

Goldengate

Well if you won’t dig and you won’t join the FB group, you’ll have to rely on this forum and hope Josh gets let back into the US someday and can dig for you.

It’s probably all roots anyway

Haha! All good Choice! Enjoy the banter. Think we’ve entertained the masses enough.
Looking for feedback from someone that has the original book to look at those 2 images I posted recently and confirm or deny what I saw with the 13 & 71.

.o0O(Get off my lawn!)
No, just kidding!

MERLIN

Mark Twain had a famous quote about Columbus…..Something about 2 skulls in Havana.

Hey missed you Merlin!
Are you still pushing your IRA and Irish cathedral there?!
(Image 9 forum is pretty much dead, needs mouth to mouth)

Choice…
Surprisingly, you keep repeating “contribute”, do you even know what that word mean?
Taunting those who tried to correct your wrongs, and nonstop
Uploading these random low quality scans of the image and
Photoshop your own fantasy into it?
Ironically you gain nothing but notoriety…
Despite the
Fact that all of your “contributions” were irrelevant,
Useless, and randomly broken pieces that you made up.
Clues are everywhere in the image, they connects, both the Verse and image, in whole
Kaleidoscoping the way you did is a complete waste of time and will result with nothing but illusions, not solutions.

Sooooo… The base of the statue was different at the time. The outline of her sleeves may have something to do with the base outline. Here’s an old postcard.

Spiritr

.

Shut up Meg.!

Spiritr

Choice…
Surprisingly, you keep repeating “contribute”, do you even know what that word mean?
Taunting those who tried to correct your wrongs, and nonstop
Uploading these random low quality scans of the image and
Photoshop your own fantasy into it?
Ironically you gain nothing but notoriety…
Despite the
Fact that all of your “contributions” were irrelevant,
Useless, and randomly broken pieces that you made up.
Clues are everywhere in the image, they connects, both the Verse and image, in whole
Kaleidoscoping the way you did is a complete waste of time and will result with nothing but illusions, not solutions.

Heh…I see whacha did there.
And Merlin, here’s the Twain quote…
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/224635-in-a-museum-in-havana-there-are-two-skulls-of

Thanks EZ……that’s the one I was thinking of.

I think the feature you are pointing to looks like a bunny face, as in Bunny Meadow in GGP. Especially when we do not zoom in to 300X magnification.

fox

8)
another thought… could the table’s pedestal in this P represent Coit Tower?  We still have yet to decipher the table.  I know it isnt the exact shape of Coit Tower
http://www.magazinusa.com/images_st2/ca … _tower.jpg
like the buildings located in the 2 “found” P’s but…….
could it be something more like this?
http://www.geoffreydrewmarketing.com/an … nozzle.jpg
“The artists also claimed that the building was a mockery because they assumed (as do many today) that architects Brown and Howard had designed the monument in the shape of a fire hose nozzle in memory of Lillie Coit’s fondness for the Fire Department, an intention that the architects consistently denied.”  found on history of CT
http://www.coittower.org/history/histor … tower.html
the stem on the rose atop the table seems to curl into the letter “C” for Coit also

Here’s a post from 2006

Durian

I see a bird with wings and crests, but I can see your bunny as well gMan.

Thumbs up on the bird. Infact I proposed a line of 4+ perrots, the 1st one being well defined with long tail feather a while back but the idea was rejected quickly.

Durian

I see a bird with wings and crests, but I can see your bunny as well gMan.
I don’t think you need 300x magnification to see these marks. I’m assuming this is about acutal size (maybe a little larger, what are the dimensions of the book?). The marks remain to appear very deliberate. These features are about the same size as features on the woman’s face, and the entire piece I believe might be the San Carlos rock (the plaque, mortar, and jutting edge) occupy about the same amount of real estate as the clock/compass on the table:

I am starting to question whether the fine little details have much value in Image 1. We already know it is San Fransisco. I also suspect that we are all over-thinking this one. If there is any truth to the value of the gem being indicative of the complexity of the puzzle, this should be one of the easiest ones to solve.
I also suspect that having an illustration modeled after DaVinci’s Virgin of the Rocks adds a bit of complexity to the overall image, which of course will let imaginations run wild.

Unknown

Unknown:
truth to the value of the gem being indicative of the complexity of the puzzle

I was thinking the same thing, one tiny single goldish pearl compares to a blue color radiant cut diamond, the value gap is insanely huge.

Durian

I see a bird with wings and crests, but I can see your bunny as well gMan.
I don’t think you need 300x magnification to see these marks. I’m assuming this is about acutal size (maybe a little larger, what are the dimensions of the book?). The marks remain to appear very deliberate. These features are about the same size as features on the woman’s face, and the entire piece I believe might be the San Carlos rock (the plaque, mortar, and jutting edge) occupy about the same amount of real estate as the clock/compass on the table:

close…its a birdffalo
the crest is the bird heads beak, cover the beak, you have a buffalo

Choice

Thumbs up on the bird. Infact I proposed a line of 4+ perrots, the 1st one being well defined with long tail feather a while back but the idea was rejected quickly.

there is a parrot (singular) right side of rocks diagonally down and left from doorway.

JoshCornell

there is a parrot (singular) right side of rocks diagonally down and left from doorway.

Is the red 1 picture of your parrot Josh?
I’m thinking of the line of many with yellow #s.

I just see El Cid

My hypothesis is that the lady in the painting is an amalgamation of statue of Columbus and a dove.
• Rock formations behind her form 2 large wings
• Her mouth looks like she’s saying “Cooo.. Cooo…!”
• Her shoulder-pads are similar to the pads on Columbus’ statue
• Both wearing long robe
• Columbus wearing a large cross where her arms are crossed
• Outline of her right sleeve (or the pushed-up earth by dragon’s nose) is similar to the old base of statue
There are many more similarities.
Columbus means dove.
I’ve mentioned most of these before.
All the rock formations may just be feathers and tail feathers.

Back to my “Coit sundial” theory!
Looking closely to the base of the clock on the table and the shadow it casts I notice 2 sharp angle points, one on each side of the base (yellow 2 and 3) and one point in the middle (yellow 1). IMO they can match either the base of the Coit tower or even more interestingly the POV of someone looking straight down from observation deck (red oval) the outline of the tower itself. Even the extended clock shadow matches the shadow of the arched window. Only 5x zoom. Any feedback?

So Durian, exactly when was the painting you imaged below painted?

Durian

I believe in the 30’s. They’ve been touched up on occasion as well.

There are some nice old pictures on the SF library site with date associated to them:
https://tinyurl.com/yd4p97cl

All the gold stenciling in her robe reminds me of the gold ribbons on cable cars.

Hi again, Durian. I’m glad to hear about your pending trip to San Francisco. I just wanted to remind you of something. The land from the bleachers all the way to the street was dug up during the 2009 remodel and this appears to include your dig spot. The skylights were replaced and a whole new irrigation system was installed. Looking at the photos, It seems that the concrete walkway may also have been redone.
Here is a link to the street view from July 2009, so you can get an idea of what I’m talking about.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8063776 … 312!8i6656
Here are some shots from that street view
Maltedfalcon posted on Facebook some aerial photos of the renovation. I have copied 3 of them below.
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Just something to keep in mind while you’re there.

JoshCornell

what the hell are you on? are you drunk? thats perfectly coherent. why you trolling for no reason?

What value have you brought to this forum Josh?

MrBackstop

That’s a nice map I’ve never seen. And I like your thoughts on the 43 1/2 as well. And I agree, her fingers and arms give all kinds of clues.
I know that most people in GG Park think the crossed arms mean Crossover Drive but I really like this as the Belt Railroad. The Belt was still running up until the early 90s and much of the track is still in the ground today.

IF the woman in the image had a belt I would say for sure, the tracks are noticeable down at the pier, I see the connection but does it show up in the image?

MERLIN

I’m not sure if this is part of the puzzle or not…..I kind of stumbled upon this by accident – but I figured I would share with the group “just in case”.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/m … -2012.html

this is what most people first see in sf, cause its right outside the powell street station exit, which is where most people get off after coming into the airport…these days…

gManTexas

What value have you brought to this forum Josh?

more value than, point in case. thanks for your douchebag input….douchebag.

MERLIN

Would look good on top of a Christmas tree.

theres some irony to this statement…the picture he posted above is from the center area of the ppe…but theres another pole (i cant see base on picture but looks similar to shape of pole in above image)…its clearly more massive than everything else there (i only see one though, not 12)…and it’s topped with a star (possibly the sun).

JoshCornell

this is what most people first see in sf, cause its right outside the powell street station exit, which is where most people get off after coming into the airport…these days…

I never noticed that clock before…..at least it has the right color scheme. It kinda reminds me of the table leg and clock in the image.

well, it is right by the powell cable car turntable…and, so…one’s first sweet taste of san francisco…

MERLIN

Does anyone see this in the image?…
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tiffa … 22.4793839

there is a seal in the sf image looking up like that, bottom right.

of all those posted maps i like the 1979 b muni one best, but thats just me. thanks bb.

of
all those posted maps
i
like the 1979 b muni one best, but thats just me. thanks bb.

Are we in Sausalito now? My bud took a picture of that with a seal on it making out. It was famous locally for a while.
http://alsybrianlegacybook.com/

Are we in Sausalito now? My bud took a picture
of
that with a seal on it making out. It was famous locally for a while.
http://alsybrianlegacybook.com/

id say that seal is exactly 100% referenced.

JoshCornell

there is a seal in the sf image looking up like that, bottom right.

If you are going to post on this forum, can you please try to use full coherent sentences? Are you capable of forming full cogent thoughts? I am personally tired of your mental diarrhea, clogging up the threads. If you have a problem with me calling you out, take it to PMs and we can work it out, instead of whining about how you are mistreated, but Josh you really need to stop inflecting your damage on this forum. I believe it would be a much better place, especially intellectually, if you would just leave for good.

JoshCornell

there is a seal in the sf image looking up like that, bottom right.

If you are going to post on this forum, can you please try to use full coherent sentences? Are you capable
of
forming full cogent thoughts?
I
am personally tired
of
your mental diarrhea, clogging up the threads. If you have a problem with me calling you out, take it to PMs and we can work it out, instead
of
whining about how you are mistreated, but Josh you really need to stop inflecting your damage on this forum.
I
believe it would be a much better place, especially intellectually, if you would just leave for good.

That time of the month gman?

what the hell are you on? are you drunk? thats perfectly coherent. why you trolling for no reason?

That time
of
the month gman?

he didnt. he was asking. i did. lower right…its just the head facing up exactly like the statue. it also references something else, more obviously.

he didnt. he was asking.
i
did. lower right…its just the head facing up exactly like the statue. it also references something else, more obviously.

Durian

Merlin, where exactly in the image do you see the seal?

On the Wiki grid I see a seals face at I-8.
http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/86301628/Image%2001

Durian

Merlin, where exactly in the image do you see the seal?

On the Wiki grid
I
see a seals face at
I
-8.
http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/86301628/Image%2001

MERLIN

Does anyone see this in the image?…
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tiffa … 22.4793839

I’ve been lurking for a few months and this is my first post. Sausalito has some interesting connections to Image1/Verse 7, but not enough for a solid theory (yet).
Tying into the immigration theme, “Willie” Yee Tock Chee immigrated from China in the early 1900’s. For 60 years, he owned and operated a family business known as the Marin Fruit Company (605 Brideway, Sausalito). The MFC is definitely a place where the air would smell sweet.
https://goo.gl/maps/GTVpBuZhuRF2
Yee Tock Chee Park was the docking place for the first paddlewheeler ferry service to Sausalito in 1868. (Hidden SF). If you browse pictures on Google or Yelp, there are concrete stairs that lead down to the water. Since the shoreline is technically a stone seawall, would it be far fetched to call this “stone wall’s door” (entrance)?
There some relatively tall wooden posts in that park, but definitely more than 3. What’s most interesting is the dedication plaque on the large concrete tree planter. It is right underneath the most prominent corner of the planter, with a large (maybe giant) step leading up to it. There is a tree in that corner, but maybe just enough room around it to bury a casque.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8550129,-122.4788566,3a,75y,351.31h,80.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipPjkPbcsy2U9MZZja7IbzWl94FLfQPyuLZLhawb!2e10!7i5376!8i2688
360 pan from YTC Park:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m12LuzPCTgg
There are a couple of connections to the Mark Twain clue. Between 1922 and 1941 Eureka was on the Sausalito commuter run. (Wikipedia). The ferry dock is just a stone’s throw away from YTC Park.
Alternatively, Mark Twain admired elephants.
http://www.twainquotes.com/Elephant.html
What word caught Mark Twain’s attention? Read here:
http://www.twainquotes.com/Chauffeur.html
For the 1915 Pan Pacific Expo at the Palace of Fine Arts, 12 supposedly full-size elephant sculptures were made as flagpole bases. If the elephants were full-size, then the flagpoles were gigantic.
Fast forward almost 50 years later, the venues deteriorated. Prior to restoring the Palace of Fine Arts, most other structures were demolished but two of the elephants and a fountain were salvaged. Guess where they were relocated? Not far down the street from Yee Tock Chee park is Vina Del Mar park.
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/plaza-vina-del-mar-sausalito?select=gXrc5YQTGB3autI_AqSTcw
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/plaza-vina-del-mar-sausalito?select=zy3Y3K03ne2zGeq3CNEgrA
NIce light fixtures, right? Unfortunately, I think there are less than 11, and the flagpoles there are not the originals.
Lastly, if you see an aerial view of that area, you might see a shape that might have looked like a dragon’s head in the past, that looks more like a seahorse now.
That’s all I have, so I’m passing the baton. Sorry that most of the images I chose are links instead of in-line.

MERLIN

Does anyone see this in the image?…
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Tiffa … 22.4793839

I
‘ve been lurking for a few months and this is my first post. Sausalito has some interesting connections to Image1/Verse 7, but not enough for a solid theory (yet).
Tying into the immigration theme, “Willie” Yee Tock Chee immigrated from China in the early 1900’s. For 60 years, he owned and operated a family business known as the Marin Fruit Company (605 Brideway, Sausalito). The MFC is definitely a place where the air would smell sweet.
https://goo.gl/maps/GTVpBuZhuRF2
Yee Tock Chee Park was the docking place for the first paddlewheeler ferry service to Sausalito in 1868. (Hidden SF). If you browse pictures on Google or Yelp, there are concrete stairs that lead down to the water. Since the shoreline is technically a stone seawall, would it be far fetched to call this “stone wall’s door” (entrance)?
There some relatively tall wooden posts in that park, but definitely more than 3. What’s most interesting is the dedication plaque on the large concrete tree planter. It is right underneath the most prominent corner
of
the planter, with a large (maybe giant) step leading up to it. There is a tree in that corner, but maybe just enough room around it to bury a casque.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8550129,-122.4788566,3a,75y,351.31h,80.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAF1QipPjkPbcsy2U9MZZja7IbzWl94FLfQPyuLZLhawb!2e10!7i5376!8i2688
360 pan from YTC Park:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m12LuzPCTgg
There are a couple
of
connections to the Mark Twain clue. Between 1922 and 1941 Eureka was on the Sausalito commuter run. (Wikipedia). The ferry dock is just a stone’s throw away from YTC Park.
Alternatively, Mark Twain admired elephants.
http://www.twainquotes.com/Elephant.html
What word caught Mark Twain’s attention? Read here:
http://www.twainquotes.com/Chauffeur.html
For the 1915 Pan Pacific Expo at the Palace
of
Fine Arts, 12 supposedly full-size elephant sculptures were made as flagpole bases. If the elephants were full-size, then the flagpoles were gigantic.
Fast forward almost 50 years later, the venues deteriorated. Prior to restoring the Palace
of
Fine Arts, most other structures were demolished but two
of
the elephants and a fountain were salvaged. Guess where they were relocated? Not far down the street from Yee Tock Chee park is Vina Del Mar park.
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/plaza-vina-del-mar-sausalito?select=gXrc5YQTGB3autI_AqSTcw
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/plaza-vina-del-mar-sausalito?select=zy3Y3K03ne2zGeq3CNEgrA
NIce light fixtures, right? Unfortunately,
I
think there are less than 11, and the flagpoles there are not the originals.
Lastly, if you see an aerial view
of
that area, you might see a shape that might have looked like a dragon’s head in the past, that looks more like a seahorse now.
That’s all
I
have, so
I
‘m passing the baton. Sorry that most
of
the images
I
chose are links instead
of
in-line.

Thanks for sharing Nike – I can see you definitely put some thought into that theory. Here is something else on the other side of the bridge that ties in with asian immigration.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/China … 22.4617136

Thanks for sharing Nike –
I
can see you definitely put some thought into that theory. Here is something else on the other side
of
the bridge that ties in with asian immigration.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/China … 22.4617136

its at GH 7 guys. i already travelled through there and checked some stuff out btw…stopped in strawberry on my way to grizzly peak…

its at GH 7 guys.
i
already travelled through there and checked some stuff out btw…stopped in strawberry on my way to grizzly peak…

I’m not sure if this is part of the puzzle or not…..I kind of stumbled upon this by accident – but I figured I would share with the group “just in case”.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/m … -2012.html

I
‘m not sure if this is part
of
the puzzle or not…..
I
kind
of
stumbled upon this by accident – but
I
figured
I
would share with the group “just in case”.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/m … -2012.html

MERLIN

Thanks for sharing Nike – I can see you definitely put some thought into that theory. Here is something else on the other side of the bridge that ties in with asian immigration.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/China … 22.4617136

OK, getting deeper by the minute. We are in San Rafael now.

MERLIN

Thanks for sharing Nike –
I
can see you definitely put some thought into that theory. Here is something else on the other side
of
the bridge that ties in with asian immigration.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/China … 22.4617136

OK, getting deeper by the minute. We are in San Rafael now.

I like all the star maiden statues on top of the building tho.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/s … ition.html

I
like all the star maiden statues on top
of
the building tho.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/s … ition.html

Choice

I like all the star maiden statues on top of the building tho.
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/s … ition.html

Would look good on top of a Christmas tree.

Great work, Treetops!
I feel reasonably certain that this is our stairway. When I listed those sights earlier, I didn’t mean that you have to be able to see them from the exact spot of burial. If Preiss could see those things from the hairpin curve on Stow Lake Drive, that’s good enough for me. It makes sense that he would then walk a little way down the path to have a more secluded spot for digging. The spiral on the railing is the confirmation that we’re in the right place.
My money is still on either side of that fourth step. I take it you didn’t feel ready to do any probing today? The most important bit of info I found in your photos is that you aren’t likely to do any harm by digging around there. The vine that appears on both sides of the stairs is English Ivy and it’s a horrible invasive weed in the park. The managers would probably be grateful if you managed to kill some of it off. So I’d say it’s time to start moving a little soil.

Excellent! Okay, here’s my thought: I think we are looking for a place on the eastern edge of Stow Lake where one can see (or almost see):
Sutro Tower,
Strawberry Hill,
Huntington Falls,
the Chinese pavilion, and
a green spiral like the one at the end of the rose stem.
(I’m going to allow a bit of flexibility on the view, if trees are in the way, because it’s been 30 years and things may have grown up a bit.)
From everything we’ve heard, it appears that there’s only one handrail in the park that has the spiral. And from the way the metal on the spiral is weathered and worn, I’m willing to assume that it’s been in existence for at least 30 years. There’s always a chance it was moved, of course, but I can’t imagine why it would be. They must have always needed a handrail at that spot, and the pole seems custom-made for it. So that’s our handrail (“giant pole”) going up the stairway (“giant step”). And from the photo that Treetops posted, I think we can rule out the spiral at the bottom. There’s no view of anything from there.
So we’re looking at the spiral at the top of the stairs. Now what?
Let’s take a look at the two sleeves on the dress:
Each sleeve of the woman’s dress is decorated with two columns of blue squares. The columns start very sharply and cleanly at the top with complete squares but fade away into shadows at the bottom, indicating perhaps that we are only supposed to be doing a precise count from one end.
The woman’s left index finger is upside-down and pointing at the lower edge of the fourth row of blocks. The woman’s right index finger is right-side-up and pointing at the upper edge of the fourth row of blocks. Taken together, the fingers seem to be indicating a range: No higher than the top of the fourth row and no lower than the bottom of the fourth row.
The structure of each pattern, with two columns of blocks going up and down, might represent a stairway with a handrail going up the middle. If we are being instructed to count from the top, it might be saying that we should focus our attention within the range of the fourth step.
That would still leave us with two sides of the stairway for digging, of course, but maybe that’s the point of this line: “In jewel’s direction / Is an object / Of Twain’s attention” Unfortunately, I still don’t know what “object” that would be. (Wouldn’t it be great if the woods beside the stairway once had a small sculpture of a jumping frog? A guy can dream.)
So… If anyone in San Francisco feels like visiting the park this weekend, please take a camera and show us what the ground is like on either side of that fourth step.

Excellent! Okay, here’s my thought: I think we are looking for a place on the eastern edge of Stow Lake where one can see (or almost see):
Sutro
Tower,
Strawberry Hill,
Huntington Falls,
the Chinese pavilion, and
a green spiral like the one at the end of the rose stem.
(I’m going to allow a bit of flexibility on the view, if trees are in the way, because it’s been 30 years and things may have grown up a bit.)
From everything we’ve heard, it appears that there’s only one handrail in the park that has the spiral. And from the way the metal on the spiral is weathered and worn, I’m willing to assume that it’s been in existence for at least 30 years. There’s always a chance it was moved, of course, but I can’t imagine why it would be. They must have always needed a handrail at that spot, and the pole seems custom-made for it. So that’s our handrail (“giant pole”) going up the stairway (“giant step”). And from the photo that Treetops posted, I think we can rule out the spiral at the bottom. There’s no view of anything from there.
So we’re looking at the spiral at the top of the stairs. Now what?
Let’s take a look at the two sleeves on the dress:
Each sleeve of the woman’s dress is decorated with two columns of blue squares. The columns start very sharply and cleanly at the top with complete squares but fade away into shadows at the bottom, indicating perhaps that we are only supposed to be doing a precise count from one end.
The woman’s left index finger is upside-down and pointing at the lower edge of the fourth row of blocks. The woman’s right index finger is right-side-up and pointing at the upper edge of the fourth row of blocks. Taken together, the fingers seem to be indicating a range: No higher than the top of the fourth row and no lower than the bottom of the fourth row.
The structure of each pattern, with two columns of blocks going up and down, might represent a stairway with a handrail going up the middle. If we are being instructed to count from the top, it might be saying that we should focus our attention within the range of the fourth step.
That would still leave us with two sides of the stairway for digging, of course, but maybe that’s the point of this line: “In jewel’s direction / Is an object / Of Twain’s attention” Unfortunately, I still don’t know what “object” that would be. (Wouldn’t it be great if the woods beside the stairway once had a small sculpture of a jumping frog? A guy can dream.)
So… If anyone in San Francisco feels like visiting the park this weekend, please take a camera and show us what the ground is like on either side of that fourth step.

Why not the landing in the middle of the staircase as the “giant step”? That’s one way of looking at it.
I sure wish something in the vicinity sang out as “Object of Twain’s attention.” This verse seems so stingy compared to some of the others.

nice pics treetops thanks, what is at the bottom of the rail here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31515168@N00/15416550199/

Are you asking what’s in the immediate vicinity of the bottom of the stairs? If you take a look at the photo previous to the one you’re asking about, you can see there’s a paved walk, with rocks and foliage on both sides making it difficult to explore off the path. Back down the path past the Tea Garden exit, you cross a small lawn to reach a street where cars can drive through the park. Across that street is the entrance to the massive Strybing Arboretum. Like many Arboretums, Strybing has areas representing different climes and countries. I’ve been to the Asian gardens there, which had some stone lamp sculptures bearing no resemblance to anything in Image 1.

A few more questions for you, Treetops:
– Is there any other staircase in the park that has the metal spiral or is the one you photographed unique?
– Am I correct in thinking that the railing with the two spirals runs down the middle of the staircase (so people can go up and down on either side of it)?
– Do you happen to have a shot looking up the stairs or down the stairs in a way that shows the whole staircase?
– If not, do you have an estimate for how many steps there were?
Thanks for your help, as always!

No idea if there are other staircases in the park that have those ornaments. The thought even crossed my mind, “What if these ornaments used to be on a different railing and they moved them onto this one at some point?”
Sorry I didn’t take photographs of the whole staircase. Still, you can see it in the second photograph, the one with the guy looking at his phone. The railing runs down the middle and it looks like there are about 28-30 steps, broken up into to sections with a short flat stretch in the middle.

Unknown

Unknown:
That would still leave us with two sides of the stairway for digging

Line theory suggests the north side:
So does the verse if you accept the Fulton/Twain connection.
If I were probing, I would allow at least 18 to 24″ on either side of the staircase for the foundation, and assume that anything that I hit in that area is going to be part of the staircase construction. If the casque is still there, it’s probably 2-4 feet from the edge of the staircase. So, while I had my doubts, it would appear that Oregonian has narrowed down the dig spot to an area no bigger than 3-5 square feet. Impressive.
Still unsure how the first few lines of the verse lead you to this area, but the visual clues are pretty hard to ignore.

Ugh, I totally walked up that staircase when I was there in May, months before I had even heard of this treasure hunt. I just looked through my photos of my trip and sadly didn’t get any of this staircase. If I recall correctly, both sides of the staircase were lined with plants which would make digging difficult. I assume that much hasn’t changed since the 80’s either, but I could be wrong.
This photo from treetops kind of shows the stair I believe you guys have narrowed down for a possible dig spot:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31515168@ … otostream/
. I like where this is headed, I just think digging along those staircases, as best as I can remember them, will be difficult without removing a bunch of plants.
Near the entrance of the tea garden (just down the hill from the staircase) is this object, which somewhat resembles the leg of the table the flower is sitting on (admittedly not as close in proximity or resemblance as I’d like it to be):
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Golde … 68ef3ba730
.

I like that image match.

meatypuffs: I’ve looked at that stone “lantern” by the Tea Garden many times, hoping to find an angle from which it looks like the table base, or to find some detail on it that matches any element of the painting. No luck. The silhouette is actually closer to the generic lampposts found throughout Golden Gate Park, though still not a close enough match for an “aha” moment.
Regarding the Japanese Tea Garden and its associated artworks in general, I really want to believe that Preiss took some care with the distinction between Chinese and Japanese icons here.
Back to the Chinese Pavilion: Can someone refresh my memory as to when exactly Preiss was visiting sites to plan the book? If the Pavilion was dedicated in April, 1981, and The Secret was published in November of 1982, it would have been quite a new landmark if he was there. If he planned things out very far in advance however, it’s no longer a candidate for being part of the San Francisco hunt.
And yes, your recollections about the area around the stairway match my observations the other day.

meatypuffs

Near the entrance of the tea garden (just down the hill from the staircase) is this object, which somewhat resembles the leg of the table the flower is sitting on (admittedly not as close in proximity or resemblance as I’d like it to be):
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Golde … 68ef3ba730
.

If we’re thinking the table leg is a lantern (several in the past have thought lantern or light post), there are additional lanterns inside the tea garden itself, some of which may be visible from this staircase (I seem to recall the staircase overlooking much of the Japanese Tea Garden, someone on foot in SF could likely confirm). Several can be seen on this page for reference:
http://www.san-francisco-travel-secrets … cisco.html

treetops

meatypuffs: I’ve looked at that stone “lantern” by the Tea Garden many times, hoping to find an angle from which it looks like the table base, or to find some detail on it that matches any element of the painting. No luck. The silhouette is actually closer to the generic lampposts found throughout Golden Gate Park, though still not a close enough match for an “aha” moment.

Agreed, it’s vague resemblance makes me uncomfortable for calling it, as you say, an “aha moment”. However, one of the park’s lanterns or one of the various ones in the Tea Garden (see my post a few minutes ago) may be another visual confirmation for the final digging location.
That’s such a beautiful area. I’m trying to plan another trip from Nebraska to visit. I hope this baby is dug up before then, though!

treetops

Back to the Chinese Pavilion: Can someone refresh my memory as to when exactly Preiss was visiting sites to plan the book? If the Pavilion was dedicated in April, 1981, and The Secret was published in November of 1982, it would have been quite a new landmark if he was there. If he planned things out very far in advance however, it’s no longer a candidate for being part of the San Francisco hunt.

Yeah, I’ve been meaning to post the history of that pavilion and I just haven’t gotten around to it.
The pavilion was a gift from San Francisco’s sister city of Taipei, the capital of Taiwan. The pavilion wasn’t officially dedicated until 1981, but it was actually given in 1976 to celebrate the U.S. bicentennial. Preiss had plenty of time to hear about it and see it being built.
But here’s the funny thing: This wasn’t the only Chinese pavilion that Taipei gave to a U.S. city as a bicentennial gift. Remember “friendship south”? That’s right. The other pavilion went to Houston, Texas and was put in Hermann Park. It’s part of what people have been using for years now as a clue in Verse 1.
Make of that what you will.

cool stuff. I’m liking the bicentennial stuff more an more.

Unknown

Unknown:
Can someone refresh my memory as to when exactly Preiss was visiting sites to plan the book?

My best guess is that the San Francisco casque was put into the ground no later than the fall of 1981, or early winter of 1982. I seem to recall reading somewhere on this forum that his then girlfriend (and future wife) was in California at the time, so it’s certainly possible that he scouted this one location during one of his earlier visits with her. But in general, I don’t think he spent more than a day or two in each of the casque cities, nor do I think he scouted any of them in person in advance.

Great info Oregonian!
Here’s another slew of photos of that staircase, since there seems to be interest in more detail. (It certainly is nice living a short walk from Golden Gate Park.) I’m hoping these will convey just how little you can see from this staircase, surrounded by trees as it is. If there is a connection to image 1, it might just be that the spiral ornaments are something you see on your way to the treasure, kind of like the centaur statue in image 5.
I also took a walk around the perimeter of Stow Lake, looking for another staircase like this. I couldn’t find any comparable pedestrian exit from the area. The main way in and out on foot is around the boat rental building at the NW end of the lake.
The top of the stairs, facing the south branch of the path:
Looking down the stairs:
View north, upper half of stairs:
View south, upper half of stairs:
Middle of stairs:
View north, lower stairs:
View south, lower stairs:
Looking up from base:
View north from the path, just east of the foot of the stairs:
View south from the same vantage point:
And here’s what’s around the other side of the trees in that last photo (the staircase runs parallel to the back of the bench, about 20 feet behind it).

Well, would you look at that! We seem to have a functional forum again!
Durian, I like a lot of the work you’ve done. I think the personal goal is to prove to yourself whether your theories work or not. I have had many ideas that I cross checked from many different angles and a lot dissolved, but some stuck. I definitely think a great approach is to develop a solid working theory and then put it aside, maybe even look at some of the other puzzles, especially read some of the other Image and Verse threads. Kind of like scouting the other teams to see the talent and trick plays. Then try with fresh eyes, maybe even a new approach. If you keep coming back to the same answer, then you are probably getting close.
Keep up the good fight!

Just a thought, in 1981 if you started talking to me about the “Dragon”, I would have assumed you were talking about Bruce Lee. As in “Enter the Dragon” and “The Way of the Dragon”. Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco in the year of the Dragon. There is a “Bruce Lee” tour of SF from one of the local tour companies.
That said, Bruce didn’t spend much time in SF. He spent most of his life in Seattle and is buried in Seattle next to his son, Brandon Lee.
Did you know Seattle used to be called “The City of Clocks” because they had a large number of street clocks.

Durian

A final thought on the exact match vs. “caricature and essence” in the SF painting…
Many, many people think the woman’s dress represents Golden Gate Park. Fine, no problem. But I’d argue that what people see as a correlation to GGP is absolutely not an exact match. Aside from being roughly a rectangle, they don’t really match at all, IMO. I’d argue that people who see the flare in the dress as proof we’re looking at Golden Gate Park are doing exactly what I’m doing when I look at things in the painting that in their essence correlate to images around Aquatic Park. They are viewing the flare and the winding dragon (winding roads of the park) as representing the
essence
of the park.
I am absolutely OK with this, but to be clear, we’re looking at a possible match based on the essence of something, not based upon identifying an exact match. Using the tiles in the dragon to represent city blocks is similar. It’s a fine and quite possibly correct metaphor, but absolutely not an exact match to reality.
It seems to me metaphor and caricature are absolutely part of these puzzles, and IMO we should be open to them, especially given all the years that have passed with what seems to me to be a stunning scarcity of exact image matches being found.

I agree. Some things are representative. I will throw this at you though, there are almost perfect map overlays in the Images. GGP is not one of them.

rexx

Just a thought, in 1981 if you started talking to me about the “Dragon”, I would have assumed you were talking about Bruce Lee. As in “Enter the Dragon” and “The Way of the Dragon”. Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco in the year of the Dragon. There is a “Bruce Lee” tour of SF from one of the local tour companies.
That said, Bruce didn’t spend much time in SF. He spent most of his life in Seattle and is buried in Seattle next to his son, Brandon Lee.
.

Bruce Lee is much more associated with Oakland than SF.

gManTexas

I agree. Some things are representative. I will throw this at you though, there are almost perfect map overlays in the Images. GGP is not one of them.

Exactly, it’s just a signature or icon for San Francisco. Not the buried site.
Just like what we see in Image 4 and 5, these objects were city identifiers
take a look at the maps below,from the city identifier to the casques buried site.

I have been working on this one for a while.
I have some information that you might be interested in.
I believe the casque is hidden in a specific location on Angel Island.
I will get my facts in order and explain.

Actually building one did serve as an air terminal for quite some time. before and after the navy base was there
It was the terminal departure point for the China clippers  (sea planes)
you waited inside then walked straight out the front accross the main street and down a small stairway onto a small dock to board the clipper.
Still all this was behind the main Security gate, manned by US marines until the 60’s and the Navy after that
a stranger with a shovel and small box would not have been looked too kindly upon….

forest_blight

AP, I don’t see any resemblance, beyond the fact that both are female faces. Some features are actually opposite (widow’s peak vs. part, upward-slanting eyes vs. downward-slanting…).

Actually the fact that everything between the two seeming to be exact opposites has me intrigued.  Flat bottom lip vs rounded, upper lip coming to peaks vs flat upper lip, flat eyebrows vs arched ones, widows peak vs part, eye slanted up vs eye slanted down, rounded nose vs square nose…all seems very deliberate to me

forest_blight

AP,
I
don’t see any resemblance, beyond the fact that both are female faces. Some features are actually opposite (widow’s peak vs. part, upward-slanting eyes vs. downward-slanting…).

Actually the fact that everything between the two seeming to be exact opposites has me intrigued.  Flat bottom lip vs rounded, upper lip coming to peaks vs flat upper lip, flat eyebrows vs arched ones, widows peak vs part, eye slanted up vs eye slanted down, rounded nose vs square nose…all seems very deliberate to me

And this is how sounds from the sky is replaced!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kosw1yb2RFg

Choice….I’ll buy that…..
(I can see what you’re saying about the bridge/symbols.)

Choice….
I
‘ll buy that…..
(
I
can see what you’re saying about the bridge/symbols.)

So does anyone have any theories about what the blue bubbles around the dragon are?

Kalessin

A number of people, myself included, think that the triangle symbol in the woman’s stole in Image 11 represents the iconic Citgo sign above Kenmore square.
My avatar for this forum is a photo of the Kenmore Square Citgo sign.

That is an interesting thought. Not sure that would work for for image 1. To the best of my knowledge, there are no Citgo stations in San Francisco. Thanks for the info though.

Choice

So playing with the painting I tried to join the two broken halves of a mirror. This also could be done by folding a printed copy of the picture in the 80’s.

I thought had read somewhere before that this was a thing, where you could fold images / illustrations and they would reveal things. Not with The Secret, but with something else…

Choice

So does anyone have any theories about what the blue bubbles around the dragon are?

Haven’t been able to come up with anything solid. First thought was maybe the bottom of either a fountain or pool or maybe something where you would have water bubbling up to the top. Then thought maybe something along the lines of stained glass. They do look similar to the bubbles used in three panes of image 12. Outside of that, not a clue…

Scrappy929

Haven’t been able to come up with anything solid. First thought was maybe the bottom of either a fountain or pool or maybe something where you would have water bubbling up to the top. Then thought maybe something along the lines of stained glass. They do look similar to the bubbles used in three panes of image 12. Outside of that, not a clue…

Perhaps if we assume the stoney road is the Lombard brick road then the blue bubbles could represent hydrangea blooms. There’s an interesting story about their purpose.
http://www.sfcityguides.org/public_guid … itted=TRUE

Scrappy929

I thought had read somewhere before that this was a thing, where you could fold images / illustrations and they would reveal things. Not with The Secret, but with something else…

Mad Magazine has had a “fold-in” in the inside back cover since about 1964.
There’s an example in the Wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Fold-in

Also just like the 2 triangles and the rectangle with cross across the dress come together look like Fort Point and GGB, the 3 circles (state farm logo thing) and square triangle across the dress come together look like a clock winding key or a skeleton key. X and A makes the bridge tower.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=770&start=2733

Steam whistle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUhQht8zUWo

Rviewer1

The radio signals from Sutro tower can be heard on radios all around San Francisco. Hence”sounds from the sky”

I’m perplexed. How would that possibly be a clue that will narrow things down since sound waves are everywhere?

Choice

I’m perplexed. How would that possibly be a clue that will narrow things down since sound waves are everywhere?

They wont…..These are the wrong verses for SF. Malted knew this in 2008 – these verses belong in Montreal. MF got SO CLOSE – but he miss-interpreted the most important clue – the clue that is actually the key to the entire solve – “The object of Twain’s attention” – it is the most important phrase in the entire puzzle….and explains what the character is doing with his hands. I recently figured it out – and image 9 may actually be one of the easiest puzzles. This is what was missed in 2008 –
http://www.sanctuairesquebec.com/en/gal … ell-towers

MERLIN

They wont…..These are the wrong verses for SF. Malted knew this in 2008 – these verses belong in Montreal. MF got SO CLOSE – but he miss-interpreted the most important clue – the clue that is actually the key to the entire solve – “The object of Twain’s attention” – it is the most important phrase in the entire puzzle….and explains what the character is doing with his hands. I recently figured it out – and image 9 may actually be one of the easiest puzzles. This is what was missed in 2008 –
http://www.sanctuairesquebec.com/en/gal … ell-towers

Are you sure it’s not Baltimore?!

You can interpret Twain in multiple ways in different settings. Literally Mark Twain means 12′. Twain by itself could mean 2. It could be a 12′ statue i.e. Columbus at Coit or a twin tower building like a church, i.e. the one near Washington square in SF on Columbus! It could be NYC.

http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/86301628/Image%2001

Flag pole was gone well before the 80’s though…. I think. I can’t find any pictures of it being there past the late 50’s or 60’s

Thanks Merlin!

Choice

That’s quite a jump from Sutro tower to L of H. It’s like 4 miles straight line distance. But here’s an old overhead shot of the grounds with flagpole.

It’s not. The radio signals from Sutro tower can be heard on radios all around San Francisco. Hence”sounds from the sky” In the Legion of Honor solution which was pioneered by Matt although my path getting there was different. My overall method is possibly different than Matt’s. I’m not going from beginning to end as the verse lays it out. I’m matching lines in the verse with the image with an X on the map for each match. Then since the verse does not have to go in any particular order, I choose my own or based on the X’s on my map. My solve for the Legion of Honor starts at GGP and ends at the LOH.
I have another Solution that starts at Ghirardelli Square then heads to Fisherman’s Wharf for the first two Matches. I also take into consideration that when you are at the casque location that you should be able to see at least some of the other locations that are in the image
BTW, can you link in a copy of your LOH pic but I need to see further to the right a little beyond parking lot.

If the red X marks your spot you may find a lot of tree roots and hard rocky dirt. Have you probed?

Rviewer1

I don’t have Sutro Tower anymore for my 3 high posts. I have it for the sounds from the sky. My ending spot is at the Legion of Honor.

That’s quite a jump from Sutro tower to L of H. It’s like 4 miles straight line distance. But here’s an old overhead shot of the grounds with flagpole.

Rviewer1

BTW, can you link in a copy of your LOH pic but I need to see further to the right a little beyond parking lot.

When you quote-reply to a post, you’ll see the URL of an image in the code block. Or, right-click and use the context menu to open the image in a new window to see it in full as well as the URL.
https://i.imgur.com/HKlvLUN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NsEVawZ.jpg

Rviewer1

BTW, can you link in a copy of your LOH pic but I need to see further to the right a little beyond parking lot.

That’s actually the whole postcard scan so no extension.
Here’s a higher res. scan. Click on the picture to see full size.
https://i.imgur.com/HKkNIk8.jpg

Thanks Chioce and Catherwood.
Burnstyle, I’m not using the flag pole as my Giant pole but thanks for pointing that out.
Choice, no I haven’t probed the red X yet. Right now it appears next to the tree. Once I do that could eliminate or confirm. I am continuing to work out different Giant poles and steps at the LOH. I really liked your dragons gate with the two Lyons as being part of a solution. Maybe we can work on that.

It’s reasonable to presume that the most iconic symbol of SF will be more prominent in the solve/painting than a couple of thrones on a rose.

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In 1881, Adolf Sutro purchased 22 acres (89,000 m2) of undeveloped land at the edge of the city, which included a promontory overlooking the Cliff House and Seal Rocks with breathtaking views of the Pacific Ocean, Mount Tamalpais, and the Golden Gate. Taking advantage of the views, Sutro turned this property into Sutro Heights.

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Chief Mathias Joe Capilano of the Squamish Indians of Western Canada, he carve um 58-foot totem pole for George K. Whitney to plant in front of Cliff House. Heap big pole, one of biggest in world, it marks Western end of pioneers’ trek.

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Finally, we reached the Great Western Sea. There was no place farther we could go.

Good post catherwood. Have to admit I haven’t looked at the Cliff House totem pole theory before, and it’s the best giant pole I’ve seen. I was starting to wonder if the shapes in Image 1 might suggest Seal Rock.
Twain wrote about The Cliff House here…
http://www.twainquotes.com/Era/18640703.html
“At stone wall’s door the air smells sweet”…could that even be the Cliff House restaurant…? I guess Malted has already checked Sutro Heights Park.
That date again.
http://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/th … house.html
Reminds me of the story in the introduction.
It’s one of those places I feel BP might have hinted at, even if he didn’t end up there.
From far Cathay, the dragon’s Pearl
Incidentally I’ve only just noticed how close the Cathay House restaurant is to Portsmouth Square Plaza. Dunno how long it’s been there, though there seems to have been a Cathay House in Chinatown since the ’50s.
Education and Justice for all to see
I guess one of the most obvious interpretations is a law school.
This is just off Octavia at 20 Haight St.

While the Totem pole at Cliff house had 1 thing going for it, It’s a giant pole. From that spot you cannot see sutro tower (high points are three or San Francisco State U or  the law school.
The biggest thing against it is of course the entire area was bulldozed and rebuilt as the road was widened and cliff house was remodeled. So if the casque was there, it is not now.
But the biggest thing against it, was no site confirmers in the image. Nothing in the image matches even the rocks do not match,
But if we look to the other found casques for our methodology,  Chicago and cleveland, they have similarities we can use as a method.
The iconic image… Chicago is the water tower, Cleveland is the Tall building (I cant recall its name.)  From the iconic image there is a single road you can take to the treasure ground with no turns.  The treasure ground being the part where the verse takes over.
Then the image helps more by supplying site confirmer images (things you can see from the casque location)
if in image1 the most obvious thing (GGpark) is the iconic image. then the road that takes you from GGpark straight to lincoln park is 34th ave (her fingers point to 3 and 4  ) Then her head matches the shape of the parking lot in lincoln park perfectly. (there is a silhouette of lincoln in the image)
but perhaps it means go from lincoln park to GGpark how do we know that Lincoln park is not the iconic image? because of the site confirmer images,  the Barred window matches the palace gate, the statue of el cid, the object under the table matches the seamen’s monument
In the middle of this parking lot in 1981 was the tallest flagpole in the us.  We have a clear view of Several objects of Twain’s Attention
all the lamp posts have 3 points as well as sutro tower is in plain view from this location.
I think I could go back and actually find the casque, but I was told there was lots of dirt added at the location where I was digging, I think the casque is simply deeper than I was able to dig at the time. I plan to go back , but do not have the time currently.
@Erexere, one point against the bench location is from there you can no longer see any of the site confirmers. but from the location just over the railing you can see them all.
BTW I finally noticed your login name is a palindrome…

Wasn’t Golden Gate Park considered the best solution early on?  Why was it abandoned in favor of Lincoln Park?  Oh, just because digging for it did not turn up the casque.  That doesn’t mean the solution was wrong, but that the casque has probably been destroyed over time.
In all of the theories, I kept my focus on the key instruction on where to dig: the pole.  We had two prime candidate places where we know there used to be a GIANT POLE in or near Golden Gate Park.  Not a large pole, not a flagpole, but a pole for giants.  I feel like people are looking at Lincoln Park now only because nothing was ever found within GG Park. Sadly, I think this treasure is long gone, and we have passed the correct solution already without confirmation.
Possibility One:
Along the Great Highway at the Cliff House was a totem pole.  It was above the beach, which would be a great place to bury a treasure for a short-term hunt, but likely washed away long ago.  I direct your attention to this page and the photo of the area beneath the pole, shown as a hill with striations very much like our painting.
http://www.berbec.com/rberbec/images/ph … index.html
(see the caption “The side of the mountain dug through for the road.”)
Possibility Two:
The wooden sculpture “Goddess of the Forest” was a 26-foot tall figure of a woman, but being carved from a single tree trunk had the appearance of a totem pole.  It stood in Golden Gate Park until 1986.  The major question of where to dig would be in relation to where she might have taken a giant step.  However, the park land was dug up for irrigation over the years.  We may never know whether the casque was destroyed in the process.
My prediction is that someone will eventually start to dig around Lincoln Park, come up empty, and thus conclude that there MUST be a better solution.  The cycle will begin again, and continue in frustration without end.  We each need to consider what kind of evidence is sufficient for our own satisfaction, short of finding the casque itself.  If the treasure is gone, if no evidence remains, what will you accept as “good enough” to stop looking elsewhere?

On Google Earth you can see the flagpole shadow if you switch on historic view and move the slider back to 1938.