Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:56 pm
for those without the book:
“You are about to learn of their wonderstones, the twelve treasures brought with them in their passage to the New Found Land: diamond, ruby, pearl, amethyst, emerald, sapphire, peridot, garnet, topaz, aquamarine…And you will discover what happened when the Fair People found Man of the New World, who shared their deep love for nature.”
Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:21 pm
Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:34 pm
but he typed in ten of them, why not the other two…..why not stop at three……….lol
Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:37 pm
Unknown
Unknown:
The 13th item is the casques, donated by the elves (see end of poem).
Egbert said:
But this isn’t true.
Look at page 10. The Thirteen are mentioned below the map.
1: Elves, Trolls, Grims, Nissen and Tomtra: from Scandinavia NOT DEPICTED – (Casques)
2. Vasily Leshy Poleviki, Domivye, Vily, Ruskalki from Russia (Topaz, Image 12)
3. Dwarves, Witchl, Hutchen, Rhine Maidens from Germany (Amethyst, Image 10)
4. People O’Peace, Twors, Brownies, Silkies, Kelpies from Scotland
NOT DEPICTED
5. Sidhe, Leprechauns, Fir darrigs from Ireland (Emerald, Image 5)
6. Fairies, Pixies, Hobgoblins, Boggarts from England (Garnet, Image 3)
7. Alven, Klabautermannikins, Gnomes from Holland (Opal, Image 9)
8. Korred, Lutin, Dames Blanches, Loup Garoux from France (Turquoise, Image 7)
9. Centaurs, Nymphs, Satyrs from Greece (Aquamarine, Image 4)
10. Hadas, Duende from Spain (Sapphire, image 6)
11. Folletti, Farfarelli, Salvani, Aguane from Italy (Peridot, image 11)
12. Djinn, Peri, Deevs from Arabia (Ruby, Image
13. Tree Fairies from Africa (Diamond, image 2)
Note that there are TWO countries listed above that are not depicted: Scotland and Scandinavia.
Now what IS depicted is China, even though the map says it is not shown. So this leaves us with another puzzle: did the original puzzle include Scotland instead of China? Or did Preiss let Palencar choose which one he painted? or was there supposed to be a 13th casque hidden? It is quite obvious that the Pearl, from ‘old Cathay’ refers to China. Which would mean the 13th was then supposed to be Scottish. That’s the only one left.
I see no evidence to support the idea that the 13th treasure is the
casques
themselves. What it says (page 20) is that the Scandinavians donated the casques
in which the 12 were kept.
The 13th jewel is simply not depicted–and it was (is) Scottish.
Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:57 am
Cold morning green, their Emerald.”
The Irish population of Chicago.
Thu May 08, 2003 1:37 am
Thu May 08, 2003 4:05 pm
I am furiously working on matching up all the pics to the flowers and birthstones, but I still don’t have them all yet. There are a bunch of discrepancies, and I am working from the internet rather than a book.
Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:25 am
Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:09 am
Easily
named
, and lovingly told:
1:
Fairies of
England
proudly bear
Garnet
, crown-jewel of their Queen.
2:
Brilliant as the eyes of
Celtic
folk,
Cold morning green, their
Emerald
.
3:
The Hadas of
Iberia
:
Sapphire
, shy as a wild field flower.
4:
Turquoise
the Fays of
France
keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer’s day.
5:
Dwarves’ treasure: purple
Amethyst
,
Imperial star of
Germany
.
6:
The
Opal
of the
Lowland
Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
7:
A
Topaz
is the
Russian
prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
8:
Peridot
of old
Italy
:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
9:
The
Ruby
out of
Araby
:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
10:
Africa
‘s
Diamond
, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
11:
The Nymphs of
Hellas
cherish sweet
Aquamarine
, spring-water clear.
12:
From far
Cathay
, the dragon’s
Pearl
:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
13:
Each jewel in its weird-wrought
casque
,
Gift
of the
Viking
craftsmen Elves.
Wonder and glory thirteen-fold:
These
are the treasures the Fair Folk bring.
Tue May 13, 2003 10:53 am
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
[Birthstone of January. Armor painting has Clock 1]
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
[Birthstone of May.]
The Hadas of Iberia [Spain]:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
[Birthstone of September. The Spanish Conquistador painting?]
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer’s day.
[Birthstone of December. Grandfather Clock/Mask painting: Clock is, obviously, 12.]
Dwarves’ treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
[Birthstone of February]
The Opal of the Lowland [Netherlands?] Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
[Birthstone of October]
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
[Floating Woman/Russian Church painting. Clock: 11. Birthstone of November]
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
[Birthstone of August]
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
[The Genie painting. Birthstone of July]
Africa’s Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
[The Lion/Mask painting. Birthstone of April. Clock (small mask): 4]
The Nymphs of Hellas [Greece] cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
[Birthstone of March]
From far Cathay [China], the dragon’s Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
[The Chinese Woman painting. Clock: 6, Birthstone of June.]
I hope someone else can finish matching the countries and the flowers to the paintings; I’ve got to get to bed.
Tue May 13, 2003 3:16 pm
Image 1
June (6 o’clock)
Pearl
Rose
Chinese/Asian Theme
From far Cathay, the dragon’s Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
Image 2
April (4 o’clock)
Diamond
Daisy
African Theme
Africa’s Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
Image 3
January (1 o’clock)
Garnet
White Carnation
English Theme
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
Image 4
March? (3-sided triangle?)
Aquamarine
Jonquil? Violet? Daffodil? (can’t tell)
Greek Theme
The Nymphs of Hellas cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
Image 5
May?(can’t see a time)
Emerald
Lily of the Valley
Celtic Theme
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
Image 6
September?(can’t see a time)
Sapphire
Aster
Spanish Theme
The Hadas of Iberia:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
Image 7
December (12 o’clock)
Turquoise
Narcissus? Holly? Poinsettia? Paper White?
French Theme (curious – New Orleans connection?) 🙂
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer’s day.
Image 8
July?(can’t see a time)
Ruby
Larkspur? Water Lily? (can’t see a flower)
Arabian Theme
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
Image 9
October (The roman numeral “X”)
Opal
Marigold? Calendula?
Dutch/Scottish? Theme
The Opal of the Lowland Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
Image 12
November (11 o’clock? hard to tell)
Topaz? (there’s blue topaz, but the poem indicates a gold color!!!)
Chrysanthemum
Russian Theme (russian orthodox church!)
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
Images 10 & 11
These stump me.
One should be:
February (no indication of time in either pic)
Amethyst (pic 11 — is that gem purple though?)
Violet or Primrose (pic 11 has a purple flower, but it doesn’t look like a violet or primrose, it looks more like Gladiolus)
German Theme
Dwarves’ treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The other should be:
August (ball glowing at 8 o’clock in pic 10?)
Peridot (are either of these gems green???)
Gladiolus or Poppy (what is that flower in pic 10?)
Italian Theme
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
Whew! I could use some help with the question marks. I guess I will also put these lists in the appropriate image threads.
Tue May 13, 2003 8:14 pm
P5 – May (5) = warts on face.
P6 – Sept (9) = purple flowers
P8 – July (7) = total of columns
P10 – Feb (2) = red balls being juggled
P11 – Aug (8) = I dont remember what I had for this one, possibly the black or white squares going around the lower frame of the globe/ball. (8 white & 8 black)
Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:36 am
Unknown
Unknown:
How about this: the juggler is holding 2 balls, among other things.
Long shot here, but what about the angle of her color as an indication of time? Looks like 2 o’clock *shrug*
Wed May 07, 2003 4:38 pm
This may help interpreting some of the pics:
What are the treasures the Fair Folk bring?
Easily named, and lovingly told:
Fairies of England proudly bear
Garnet, crown-jewel of their Queen.
Brilliant as the eyes of Celtic folk,
Cold morning green, their Emerald.
The Hadas of Iberia:
Sapphire, shy as a wild field flower.
Turquoise the Fays of France keep: stone
Rare as a blue midsummer’s day.
Dwarves’ treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The Opal of the Lowland Gnomes:
A cloud of shining, shifting smoke.
A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
The Ruby out of Araby:
Scarlet of the desert sky at dawn.
Africa’s Diamond, earth-born star,
Bright harvest of the midnight rock.
The Nymphs of Hellas cherish sweet
Aquamarine, spring-water clear.
From far Cathay, the dragon’s Pearl:
Chaste, perfect as the silver moon.
Each jewel in its weird-wrought casque,
Gift of the Viking craftsmen Elves.
Wonder and glory thirteen-fold:
These are the treasures the Fair Folk bring.
Wed May 14, 2003 2:58 am
Unknown
Unknown:
Images 10 & 11
These stump me.
One should be:
February (no indication of time in either pic)
Amethyst (pic 11 — is that gem purple though?)
Violet or Primrose (pic 11 has a purple flower, but it doesn’t look like a violet or primrose, it looks more like Gladiolus)
German Theme
Dwarves’ treasure: purple Amethyst,
Imperial star of Germany.
The other should be:
August (ball glowing at 8 o’clock in pic 10?)
Peridot (are either of these gems green???)
Gladiolus or Poppy (what is that flower in pic 10?)
Italian Theme
Peridot of old Italy:
antique, and olivine, and rich.
Whew! I could use some help with the question marks. I guess I will also put these lists in the appropriate image threads.
How about this: the juggler is holding 2 balls, among other things.
And in the other picture, if you count the three globes, two bubbles, the moon, the star, and the window, you get eight round objects?