maltedfalcon

it might or the casques were kind of rough so there would be room for discussion on what is what…
the photos in the book are all from the front and even in color it is difficult to tell what they are supposed to be.

Egbert posted a link to his Cleveland photo album, with good pictures of all sides of the casque after he washed it off. Looks to me like the unpainted figure standing upright directly to the right of his painted centaur, is a loup garou. Which would also make me think that the arm/hand from Image 7 belongs to a loup garou.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=725&start=60
https://www.flickr.com/photos/102050593 … 370249904/

maltedfalcon

… and you definitely don’t have all the pieces…

…no…? I’d have thought people might have been back to excavate that site for a trophy, like the bits they used to chisel off Stonehenge.

JoshCornell1

how heavy is it?

What an interesting question, I don’t know and never thought to ask
I will find out
The plexiglass case is pretty hefty for its size.
an interesting question would be would a sealed case and casque float

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I’d have thought people might have been back to excavate that site for a trophy,

Not sure what they would find other than an odd piece of plexiglass. As I understand it, Brian was very careful when he dug out the box, and the casque and lid (while broken) were still in the box.

Euhirudinea

Not sure what they would find other than an odd piece of plexiglass. As I understand it, Brian was very careful when he dug out the box, and the casque and lid (while broken) were still in the box.

Starcox (spelling?) went back out there, they found a couple of pieces of plexi that brian missed. no ceramic.

Euhirudinea

Interesting. For years, and every time we asked, Brian maintained that because the top of his casque was so badly damaged, he had no way of knowing what was on the underside.

Yes Brian was surprised that there was that much detail left. I can understand why he felt that way it was mostly large crumbs, but I have been working hard on isolating the painted parts. currently I only have about 35% reconstructed. picture a jigsaw puzzle with 3d pieces where you don’t know which side of which piece goes up and/or how big the part actually is… and you definitely don’t have all the pieces…

Euhirudinea

Interesting. For years, and every time we asked, Brian maintained that because the top of his casque was so badly damaged, he had no way of knowing what was on the underside. Now you are saying that not only was there a clock but that it showed a different time than the lid on the Chicago casque. And that information was gleaned from just one big piece. Which presumably was in Brian (or Andy’s) possession all along. Man, I tell you, sometimes it seems that good information is harder to find than buried treasure.

Yes and No, you are right I can’t definitively say the time was different, I can however say the paintings while still clocks are different. and you will be happy to know I have been working on digitally re-assembling the lid, I will keep you posted on what I find.
No I take that back I have reconstructed enough to know the little hand does not point at 5 on the cleveland casque

Euhirudinea

Interesting. For years, and every time we asked, Brian maintained that because the top of his casque was so badly damaged, he had no way of knowing what was on the underside. Now you are saying that not only was there a clock but that it showed a different time than the lid on the Chicago casque.

I always said I could put it back together if given access to it. turns out I was right (at least digitally)

I have no idea where to look for this information, but I have seen posts that say that the cleveland casque had a painted centaur and then the other 11 characters were unpainted. Has anyone ever said what all those characters were?

fariys nymphs and gnomes…. you can see them painted on the casque on the book
it seems the real casques were left unpainted except for 1 character
the keys so far have been different colors
and the underside of the lid had a clock painted on it -each showing a different time.
the key color and clock and single painted figure , probably allowed BP at a glance to identify which casque was which. – so when he went on a dig trip he grabbed the correct one.

I was wondering about the image 7 creature. If it is a loup garoux, mighn’t that appear on the casque?

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the cleveland casque had a painted centaur and then the other 11 characters were unpainted

So was the Chicago casque, as far as we can tell:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5050&p=88693&hilit=wrobel#p88693
Since they were all in sealed plexiglass boxes, it makes sense that Preiss had a way of identifying the casques from the outside while he was burying them.

clarkrock7

I was wondering about the image 7 creature. If it is a loup garoux, mighn’t that appear on the casque?

it might or the casques were kind of rough so there would be room for discussion on what is what…
the photos in the book are all from the front and even in color it is difficult to tell what they are supposed to be.

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and the underside of the lid had a clock painted on it -each showing a different time.

Unless someone has access to Casque #3 (or similar outside information), this must mean that Brian was finally able to put his casque lid back together, or at least enough to know what was painted on the underside. Cool

Euhirudinea

Unless someone has access to Casque #3 (or similar outside information), this must mean that Brian was finally able to put his casque lid back together, or at least enough to know what was painted on the underside. Cool

nope – but there was one piece big enough to see that it was different.

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there was one piece big enough to see that it was different.

Interesting. For years, and every time we asked, Brian maintained that because the top of his casque was so badly damaged, he had no way of knowing what was on the underside. Now you are saying that not only was there a clock but that it showed a different time than the lid on the Chicago casque. And that information was gleaned from just one big piece. Which presumably was in Brian (or Andy’s) possession all along. Man, I tell you, sometimes it seems that good information is harder to find than buried treasure.