Fenix

I
hate to post this here instead
of
on the verse thread but
I
have a feeling “near ace is high” is referring to 11th ave which runs on either side
of
GGP.
I
am sure there was discussion
of
this in the correct thread.  It seems “Sounds from the sky” with “near ace is high” is just a clever way to get people headed in the wrong direction.
I
mean who isn’t going to start thinking about airplanes?

I
don’t think
I
ever thought
of
it as relating to airplanes until someone else here suggested that idea.  “Ace is high” reminded me primarily
of
poker, and secondarily
of
the number “1”.  Unless the context is already piloting,
I
wouldn’t think
of
the word “ace” as referring to a pilot.  Unless there’s an actual statue or painting
of
a pilot, or a famous pilot involved in the geography,
I
still think that it’s a stretch to construe “ace” as having anything to do with the flying variety.
Drew

My scale is a little off, but wow… this might be a match.

fox

Drew, dont know if this is what u r looking for but…. I can almost see the word COIT from top to bottom.

Yup!  (although I thought it ran left to right…)
Drew

fox

Drew, dont know if this is what u r looking for but….
I
can almost see the word COIT from top to bottom.

Yup!  (although
I
thought it ran left to right…)
Drew

Drew, dont know if this is what u r looking for but…. I can almost see the word COIT from top to bottom.

Drew, dont know if this is what u r looking for but….
I
can almost see the word COIT from top to bottom.

Rviewer1

Can anyone give me a link to a descent resolution of image 1. Thanks.

https://i.imgur.com/a65pbLH.jpg
click on it to expand.
This is the highest res. image I have. Starting to pixelate

Rviewer1

Can anyone give me a link to a descent resolution
of
image 1. Thanks.

https://
i
.imgur.com/a65pbLH.jpg
click on it to expand.
This is the highest res. image
I
have. Starting to pixelate

Scrappy929

I actually broke that down into 2 separate functions
Odd phenomenon –> Fog
A sound that hurts the persons ears –> Horn
I am actually heading to San Francisco tomorrow morning at 0 dark 30, makes the drive an easy 2-2.5 hours as opposed to 4-4.5 hours stuck at the tolls at the Bay Bridge! lol! Gonna just do some exploration at LoH and the SFPL.

Eventhough foghorn makes sense for a coastal city, the obvious sound maker is sitting on the table. Unlike a typical alarm-clock that has two bells and one hammer in the middle, this clock has only one bell. Look closely to the triangular shadow it casts. It tells us what the clock represents; A clock tower with pyramid style top, similar to the one in Ghirardelli square. Also time on the clock is 6. So it’s chiming.

Work on image pairing to GGP
Khalil Gibran War

Can anyone give me a link to a descent resolution of image 1. Thanks.

Hey Goonie, the rock formation referred to as JFK to me it looks like combination of 3 things:
1) On page 11 of the book where the writer describes Columbus-like journey to new found land, he describes him as “Folleto” (misspelled) out of Genoa. I’m not Italian nor comprehend Italian but folletto with two T’s mean elf, gnome. I used Google translator. There’s also a drawing of this elf that looks similar to the rock formation.
2) Rock formation is the map of Tiburon/Belvedere. Angel island (the rose) is part of Tiburon. Tiburon translates to shark in Spanish. Shark is also present in painting.
3) Turned sideways it looks like a goat. Telegraph hill, where statue of Columbus stands was often called goat hill by San Francisco old-timers.

Choice

Hey Goonie, the rock formation referred to as JFK to me it looks like combination of 3 things:
1) On page 11 of the book where the writer describes Columbus-like journey to new found land, he describes him as “Folleto” (misspelled) out of Genoa. I’m not Italian nor comprehend Italian but folletto with two T’s mean elf, gnome. I used Google translator. There’s also a drawing of this elf that looks similar to the rock formation.
2) Rock formation is the map of Tiburon/Belvedere. Angel island (the rose) is part of Tiburon. Tiburon translates to shark in Spanish. Shark is also present in painting.
3) Turned sideways it looks like a goat. Telegraph hill, where statue of Columbus stands was often called goat hill by San Francisco old-timers.

I think some of the images represent several things in one object, it all depends on how you are using the verse i guess?

Choice

Hey Goonie, the rock formation referred to as JFK to me it looks like combination
of
3 things:
1) On page 11
of
the book where the writer describes Columbus-like journey to new found land, he describes him as “Folleto” (misspelled) out
of
Genoa.
I
‘m not Italian nor comprehend Italian but folletto with two T’s mean elf, gnome.
I
used Google translator. There’s also a drawing
of
this elf that looks similar to the rock formation.
2) Rock formation is the map
of
Tiburon/Belvedere. Angel island (the rose) is part
of
Tiburon. Tiburon translates to shark in Spanish. Shark is also present in painting.
3) Turned sideways it looks like a goat. Telegraph hill, where statue
of
Columbus stands was often called goat hill by San Francisco old-timers.

I
think some
of
the images represent several things in one object, it all depends on how you are using the verse
i
guess?

I totally agree. It might even look like the infamous one-eyed willy.

I
totally agree. It might even look like the infamous one-eyed willy.

I’ve made some high posts in this very thread.
Could those be the posts BP was referring to?

I
‘ve made some high posts in this very thread.
Could those be the posts BP was referring to?

Goldengate

… (there is a black and white photo in the second set I’ve included since it shows there were two Ghirardelli signs, back to back, so at some point from the back it also read left to right) …

I think the picture is from the early 1900’s. Most likely the south-side sign was discarded during the renovation in the 60’s. Here’s a clip from Wikipedia:
” San Franciscan William M. Roth and his mother, Lurline Matson Roth, bought the land in 1962 to prevent the square from being replaced with an apartment building. The Roths hired landscape architect Lawrence Halprin and the firm Wurster, Bernardi & Emmons to convert the square and its historic brick structures to an integrated restaurant and retail complex, the first major adaptive re-use project in the United States. It opened in 1964.”

Great stuff GG!

Hey GoldenGate, are you taking requests? I’m looking at the Galileo high area just behind Ghirardelli. Do you have a more closeup pic of that area besides the ones you posted from 80’s. That would be cool.
https://tinyurl.com/ydhtbn3r

Great pictures GoldenGate !
This picture confused me though… Even though I don’t necessarily have Gh for Ghirardelli … in this picture their logo is double sided and doesn’t read as a mirrored GH when viewed from behind. Until when was their logo double sided? Does anyone know?
https://ibb.co/cDTPjPW

I’ve been looking at the image along the right side of teh pic where the water meets the cliffs. To me the contour line of the cliff looks very suspicious and when mirrored if looks like a building. I can’t match it to anything. Thoughts?

I am accustom to staring at something until it looks like a horses rear end.  I can see it, but barely.  Subtle.
This looks like a flag pole to me in 1987, a blurry year in general.

Durian

So Choice, I’ve been thinking about what you are referring to as a blue hexagon around the pearl. Not sure what it means, but interestingly it seems to cast an angular shadow under the pearl. More interestingly, the angles forming this shadow seem to be repeated pretty much exactly in both top petals of the rose.

To me the rose looks like dragon’s claws grabbing and holding something. Especially the top of the rose looks like a chicken foot. This may be a nod to Angel island’s immigration holding facility during the Chinese exclusion act enforcement.

Let’s all remember that there was no image manipulation software in 1982. Also, you went to the library for research, grabbed some friends and went out and looked around and then dug holes.

It’s hard to outline what I’m talking about with a mouse. So it’s easier to outline digitally.
It’s visible to naked eye or enhanced with a magnifying glass.
BTW Welcome back to the thread. We missed you!

Choice

Since digging is not allowed talking about it is all we got. But I do agree that there’s too much emphasis on drawings.
That being said!, there’s an urn shaped shadow under the pearl.
Contribution!

https://www.wescover.com/p/public-sculp … kfgzsPMNWz

MERLIN

https://www.wescover.com/p/public-sculp … kfgzsPMNWz

Very nice Merlin. The only thing missing is a dig spot since it’s all concrete and flower planters!

MrBackstop

As an artist myself, it always struck me as odd that the 6:00 time was slightly off of true North.

Alternate way of looking at the table:
• Red rose represents memorial
• Rose and clock combo represent anniversary
• 5:59 on clock?
May 1959 anniversary of …

This forum used to be a place to discuss ideas and have people critique different
well
formed thoughts that were connected to actual parts of the puzzle. Honestly, I am not seeing much of that on the Image 1 thread. Posting random pictures of random things, especially without tying back to anything in the puzzle is pointless. Also, if you have a theory and you have posted about several or 50 times, you’ve made your point. If no one else agrees and you aren’t able, willing or capable of going to dig, then that’s it. You’ve said your piece. Move on.
Maybe for those who want to continue to discuss ideas until you’ve beat it to death, then take it to PMs or via email with each other. It really does nothing to move the puzzle forward by repeating the same thing over and over.
The goal is not to talk this to death, the goal is to get boots on the ground and dig up a casque.

Since digging is not allowed talking about it is all we got. But I do agree that there’s too much emphasis on drawings.
That being said!, there’s an urn shaped shadow under the pearl.
Contribution!

Maltedfalcon, where exactly is that plaque you mentioned about the Spreckles “air smells sweet” connection?  Is it closer to the parking lot or farther back behind the Thinker?

(…not a lot. Interesting location though…)

The hands pointing to a 3 and a 4 have been suggested as a street number hint since the Palace of the Legion of Honor and Golden Gate Park share 34th street.
I noticed that Dante’s Inferno, the inspiration for Rodin’s Gates of Hell sculpture, is divided up into 34 Cantos. In the fjnal Cantos, Dante passes into the 9th Circle of Hell which is held up, not by columns but by Giants themselves. I wonder if Giant Pole / Giant Step ties into the numbers 31-34 or the 8th-9th circle somehow. Like near the 9th hole on the golf course or 9th bench along the roadway overlooking the GGB.

The hands pointing to a 3 and a 4 have been suggested as a street number hint since the Palace
of
the Legion
of
Honor and Golden Gate Park share 34th street.
I
noticed that Dante’s Inferno, the inspiration for Rodin’s Gates
of
Hell sculpture, is divided up into 34 Cantos. In the fjnal Cantos, Dante passes into the 9th Circle
of
Hell which is held up, not by columns but by Giants themselves.
I
wonder if Giant Pole / Giant Step ties into the numbers 31-34 or the 8th-9th circle somehow. Like near the 9th hole on the golf course or 9th bench along the roadway overlooking the GGB.

I always thought the hands and arms create the outline of the state of California.

I
always thought the hands and arms create the outline
of
the state
of
California.

I’m looking to buy the 1981 first edition. If anyone knows where to get one, I would appreciate a heads up. My price range is $300 or lower.
Thanks guys.

I have been doing a lot of research about the path to the place to dig up the treasure and I am thinking it may have taken BP way to long to be able to do all details I think he may have done in the time frame. /quote]
I also support this concept… HOWEVER, the podcast guys did some fantastic work interviewing the book’s production team, which I believe should outweigh any personal suspicions I still hold.
Unless the sculptor/photographer/writers’ memories are all faulty (which is entirely possible, especially after 35 years) or unless they’re all committed to carrying on the book’s mystique for some unknown reason (again, also possible), the collective agreement seems to be that the production work was all completed within the timeframe.

Rviewer1

I have been looking at the building structure up in the far left top corner of image 1. I have thought that it may have been the palace of fine art or the Legion of Honor and then possibly an observatory. I think I finally may have gotten it. It is sitting up there on top of the rocks. It is a generic house up on top of a cliff. That would make it the “The Cliff House”. AKA an object of Twain’s attention.

With that logic all structures in the image could be considered cliff house. You need to show some resemblance. I thought it may be the Marconi (Edison’s cat’s paw) memorial with round top and square corners.

Here are a few pictures of a helicopter tour brochure of the era I came across. Interesting maps and graphics. Click on the images to expand.
https://imgur.com/a/r4iSSiR
https://imgur.com/a/k4vK5j8
https://imgur.com/a/5DikEbw

I wish I could understand how this puzzle works. Boston seems easy compared to SF.
I get the feeling the picture represents a prison in the background. The obvious choice for the symbolism would suggest a view of Alcatraz might be in the background from where we are to dig. Or the painting suggests that’s where Prince Yi has contained the last fire breathing dragon, which may represent looking out towards the cliffs of Diablo Point Light. Or some more practical fire/prison/barred window kind of reference is being made.
I wonder if some clues might be found around the China beach area.

ok, so here is what I have come up with so far and i’m sorry if i am repeating anything already written,  but i have no time to read all posts since 2004.
image 1 is for san francisco
lat #’s are 37,38
long #’s are 122, 123
the image goes with verse 8
“as you walk the beating of the world”
this refers to the “North Beach” area of S.F. which was the neighborhood of the “beats”, (Jack Keroac, Neal Cassady, Alan Ginsberg, and other artsy beatnics), the main streets in this area are Columbus Ave, Broadway, Vallejo and Green Streets.
“Ascend the 92 steps after climbing the grand 200”
i think this might refer to the Coit tower steps which begin right after the Filbert steps end.  Coit tower and these stairs are located on Telegraph Hill which is within walking distance from North Beach. Also, in the image, the leg of the table is a sillouete of coit tower upside-down.
“pass the compass”
atop of telegraph hill is a statue of Christopher Colombus. it is possible that he is holding a compass, or there is an image of a compass on the statue. One would have to go there and find out, maybe count the steps to confirm because there are other steps in the area. Once atop telegraph hill, just look for the culvert and bridge and follow the directions in the last lines of the verse.

ok, so here is what
I
have come up with so far and
i
‘m sorry if
i
am repeating anything already written,  but
i
have no time to read all posts since 2004.
image 1 is for san francisco
lat #’s are 37,38
long #’s are 122, 123
the image goes with verse 8
“as you walk the beating
of
the world”
this refers to the “North Beach” area
of
S.F. which was the neighborhood
of
the “beats”, (Jack Keroac, Neal Cassady, Alan Ginsberg, and other artsy beatnics), the main streets in this area are Columbus Ave, Broadway, Vallejo and Green Streets.
“Ascend the 92 steps after climbing the grand 200”
i
think this might refer to the Coit tower steps which begin right after the Filbert steps end.  Coit tower and these stairs are located on Telegraph Hill which is within walking distance from North Beach. Also, in the image, the leg
of
the table is a sillouete
of
coit tower upside-down.
“pass the compass”
atop
of
telegraph hill is a statue
of
Christopher Colombus. it is possible that he is holding a compass, or there is an image
of
a compass on the statue. One would have to go there and find out, maybe count the steps to confirm because there are other steps in the area. Once atop telegraph hill, just look for the culvert and bridge and follow the directions in the last lines
of
the verse.

From one matty to another…
You’d probably be well-served to read through the posts.  Believe it or not, there have been a lot of smart people working on these for a while.

From one matty to another…
You’d probably be well-served to read through the posts.  Believe it or not, there have been a lot
of
smart people working on these for a while.

No luck today
It was raining lightly today. Got a few breaks and also some shelter by the trees. I dug under the front hoof. The soil on top was loose, but once I got down to the level of the stone wall, it was very rocky. Took me 3 hours to dig the hole, and I didn’t get much lower than the top of the wall. Soil is just too rocky. It would have taken all day to get down 3 feet below the top of that wall. Shovel was only useful for moving dirt and rocks. I had to use a small pickaxe to break up the rocky soil. Lots of sparks flying. After expanding the hole a bit I saw a piece of rebar sticking out  horizontally on the left side of the hole. Dug further in that direction but found nothing. Rebar was about 15″ long. The cliff that the horse is on is eroding and falling down on top of the stone wall. It might have been much lower in 1982. I need to get some time to speak with Ramon, who is in charge of that area. He has worked there since 1974, so I hope he has lots of ideas.

thanks for the update jimerson…one question…
why did you choose that horse?  what in either the P or V lead you to Mr. Equine?

gManTexas

If we assume for a second that the jewel location on the Images is the burial spot (still iffy IMHO), then have a look at this comparison I drew out:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzj9fow2rdlwc … 6.jpg?dl=0
After staring at Image 1 and getting frustrated with all of the various attempts to find a suitable explanation for Giant pole, Giant step I’ve come back to the railing with the curled ends. Can everyone chime in and explain why the railing is not the Giant pole? Has the area above the staircase been thoroughly investigated? Up the rocks and behind that tree toward Stow Lake.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7697669 … 312!8i6656
It seems strange to me that many people that grew up near GGP and others that have a lot of knowledge of the park are unable to find the answers.

For me, it was a few differences:
The notch above the spiral is tilted on the rose, but not on the railing:
Why wouldn’t JJP just make those thorns horizontal, for a match.
Also, the railing spiral ends in a nice, thick circle. The rose ends by tapering off.
Throw in that the pole spiral is pretty thick whereas the rose stem is brushstroke-thin, I don’t think it’s a match at all.

gManTexas

Let’s entertain that the Police Academy was still referred to that way, or perhaps the old police academy, in 1980-82. Would it make sense, that when BP visited, which we don’t know when (between 1980-1982) that he could bury something by the flagpole in front of the building? Maybe during reconstruction of the grounds?
Here is a Master Plan document that shows the various improvements and changes over time:
http://sfrecpark.org/wp-content/uploads/ParkHistory.pdf

I think it fits perfectly: The place was probably still labeled as a police academy, with the bars on the doors, but was in transition and so was not in use by anyone. Throw in the brush that isn’t there now, and that his wife might have been around for a lookout, and I’d say it’s way easier than we initially thought.
I love your ability to pull up all these old photos

mindydaile

I still lean toward the paddleboats in the lake as being the object of Twain’s attention. I associate Twain with the Mississippi River and boats far more than I would a newspaper.

Oh, yeah, the Mississippi, that’s a good one too.

treetops

Wow there’s so much. I really think we could pick a spot anywhere and reverse-engineer something that’s of Twain’s attention. Unless it’s a huge one, like riverboat, the Mississip, jumping frogs, or a San Francisco newspaper, I don’t think we’ll ever get anywhere.

I’ve felt for the longest time that the best use of the line “Near ace is high” is to think of the number that beats a king. Ace’s are 1st in one sense, but also like the number 14 in another if you think of J-11, Q-12, K-13, then A-14.
Things that might work:
a golf course, the 13th, 14th or 15th holes, since 13 and 15 are near to the number 14. Or the casque is simply near the 14th hole.
a building that is 14 floors high.
a street. 1st or 13th/14th/15th streets.

erexere

I’ve felt for the longest time that the best use of the line “Near ace is high” is to think of the number that beats a king. Ace’s are 1st in one sense, but also like the number 14 in another if you think of J-11, Q-12, K-13, then A-14.
Things that might work:
a golf course, the 13th, 14th or 15th holes, since 13 and 15 are near to the number 14. Or the casque is simply near the 14th hole.
a building that is 14 floors high.
a street. 1st or 13th/14th/15th streets.

I’m pretty convinced it’s highway 1 through the park:
– It crosses the park going east before running north (running north but first across)
– It’s elevated in relation to the surrounding park (sounds from the sky)
– Ace is high: Ace=1,
high
way
Wonder if we can spot that weird highway in the art, too.

jermajerm

“Giant pole, Giant step.”

I even spent a couple hours last year searching for monuments to famous “Poles” like Taddeus Kosciusko.
http://www.polboston.com/taddeus_kosciuszko.htm
. When you approach these verses with an open mind, the possibilities are literally endless– polar exploration, racing positions, etc. Or who knows, this could simply be referring to some kind of standalone tower somewhere near the dig site.

If we assume for a second that the jewel location on the Images is the burial spot (still iffy IMHO), then have a look at this comparison I drew out:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzj9fow2rdlwc … 6.jpg?dl=0
After staring at Image 1 and getting frustrated with all of the various attempts to find a suitable explanation for Giant pole, Giant step I’ve come back to the railing with the curled ends. Can everyone chime in and explain why the railing is not the Giant pole? Has the area above the staircase been thoroughly investigated? Up the rocks and behind that tree toward Stow Lake.
https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7697669 … 312!8i6656
It seems strange to me that many people that grew up near GGP and others that have a lot of knowledge of the park are unable to find the answers.

A few Golden Gate Park landmarks that were apparently there during the 80s, but have since been removed or significantly altered:
-The Ghirardelli Card Shelter used to have glass and brick walls; now just an open framework
-Haight Street gate was removed from 1979 through 1998
-Entrance to the Shakespeare Garden had walkway and the wrought-iron entrance gates replaced or added circa 1991; the original threshold stone was moved to the foot of the Shakespeare bust
Anyone have memories, or photos even, of what these looked like back then? The card shelter is especially interesting because of the whole “Ace is High” thing
(Source: Christopher Pollock,
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park: A Thousand and Seventeen Acres of Stories
)

treetops

A few Golden Gate Park landmarks that were apparently there during the 80s, but have since been removed or significantly altered:
-The Ghirardelli Card Shelter used to have glass and brick walls; now just an open framework
-Haight Street gate was removed from 1979 through 1998
-Entrance to the Shakespeare Garden had walkway and the wrought-iron entrance gates replaced or added circa 1991; the original threshold stone was moved to the foot of the Shakespeare bust
Anyone have memories, or photos even, of what these looked like back then? The card shelter is especially interesting because of the whole “Ace is High” thing
(Source: Christopher Pollock,
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park: A Thousand and Seventeen Acres of Stories
)

Just did some googling and the 1979 movie Time after Time popped up. It’s set in 1979 San Fransico. If anyone want to watch it, some clues might pop out. There are scenes in GGP.
Here’s a review with images:
http://www.nortonsmoviemaps.com/blog/archives/09-2016

Unknown

Unknown:
Later, in 1963, the building was decommissioned by the Police Department.
The Recreation and Park Department approved a new structure for
senior
citizens in 1969 […] but the 100-member John McLaren Society, a watchdog group against park development, protested that decision. The abandoned police building became the resolution to the dispute, and the renovated building was officially inaugurated as the
Senior
Center on July 31, 1980…

For drunknerds in particular, I’ve got different information on the
senior
center, also from this
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park
book by Christopher Pollock:
So this building being an active police facility when Preiss would have been in San Francisco seems not to be the case. Depending on the likely date of his visit, would have been undergoing renovations or an active
Senior
Center.

Unknown

Unknown:
Later, in 1963, the building was decommissioned by the Police Department.
The Recreation and Park Department approved a new structure for senior citizens in 1969 […] but the 100-member John McLaren Society, a watchdog group against park development, protested that decision. The abandoned police building became the resolution to the dispute, and the renovated building was officially inaugurated as the Senior Center on July 31, 1980…

For drunknerds in particular, I’ve got different information on the senior center, also from this
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park
book by Christopher Pollock:
So this building being an active police facility when Preiss would have been in San Francisco seems not to be the case. Depending on the likely date of his visit, would have been undergoing renovations or an active Senior Center.

treetops

For drunknerds in particular, I’ve got different information on the
senior
center, also from this
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park
book by Christopher Pollock:
So this building being an active police facility when Preiss would have been in San Francisco seems not to be the case. Depending on the likely date of his visit, would have been undergoing renovations or an active
Senior
Center.

Let’s entertain that the Police Academy was still referred to that way, or perhaps the old police academy, in 1980-82. Would it make sense, that when BP visited, which we don’t know when (between 1980-1982) that he could bury something by the flagpole in front of the building? Maybe during reconstruction of the grounds?
Here is a Master Plan document that shows the various improvements and changes over time:
http://sfrecpark.org/wp-content/uploads/ParkHistory.pdf

treetops

For drunknerds in particular, I’ve got different information on the senior center, also from this
San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park
book by Christopher Pollock:
So this building being an active police facility when Preiss would have been in San Francisco seems not to be the case. Depending on the likely date of his visit, would have been undergoing renovations or an active Senior Center.

Let’s entertain that the Police Academy was still referred to that way, or perhaps the old police academy, in 1980-82. Would it make sense, that when BP visited, which we don’t know when (between 1980-1982) that he could bury something by the flagpole in front of the building? Maybe during reconstruction of the grounds?
Here is a Master Plan document that shows the various improvements and changes over time:
http://sfrecpark.org/wp-content/uploads/ParkHistory.pdf

drunknerds

So as you may know, I’m tunneling the
senior
center pretty hard as the location for this. I see the phoenix statue as an exact match, the doorway (in 1980 was a police academy and almost definitely still had the thin bars we see in old photos) is the most exact match I’ve seen, by far, and we might even have a match for the post.
The question lies, where do we take our giant step from the giant pole right outside? The part of the verse right before this is “in jewel’s direction lies an object of Twain’s attention,” which has been maddeningly difficult to solve.
I was thinking about the most simple solve: What’s the one object people most associate with Mark Twain? Probably a pen or a newspaper, those are his two things: He wrote satire and worked for newspapers. I think those two objects are the only direct answers that are really good: Many people had mentioned Fulton street, which is also good, but I don’t like it anymore because: A. Fulton was a person, and Fulton street isn’t really an “object,” and B. Everyone loves Fulton, there’s a Fulton street everywhere, it’s not just Twain.
So I’m thinking the solution is “take a step towards the nearest newspaper box.” Now, we live in a different time, but I remember GGP in the early 80s, and there were always newspaper boxes next to bus stops. There’s a bus stop right outside the
senior
center. I surmise that we stand at the pole, take a giant step towards the bus stop, and dig.
Of course, I need to verify the bus stop was even there in 1980, or maybe even find a photo or map telling me where the newspaper box in the area was. But I think, no matter where the solution, a newspaper/newspaper box plays into it. If I do find good evidence of a newspaper box within sight of the post in 1980, I’m going to write up a solve (and mention Malted Falcon’s technique for leaving no trace of digging) and ask for permission when I get to SF in September. Feel free to beat me to it, but be sure to ask permission.

Wow, nice job gang, this stuff is so useful. I’m going to unpack it in a few hours when I get off work.
In the meantime, here’s something I posted in the wrong thread, it’s about SF:

drunknerds

So as you may know, I’m tunneling the senior center pretty hard as the location for this. I see the phoenix statue as an exact match, the doorway (in 1980 was a police academy and almost definitely still had the thin bars we see in old photos) is the most exact match I’ve seen, by far, and we might even have a match for the post.
The question lies, where do we take our giant step from the giant pole right outside? The part of the verse right before this is “in jewel’s direction lies an object of Twain’s attention,” which has been maddeningly difficult to solve.
I was thinking about the most simple solve: What’s the one object people most associate with Mark Twain? Probably a pen or a newspaper, those are his two things: He wrote satire and worked for newspapers. I think those two objects are the only direct answers that are really good: Many people had mentioned Fulton street, which is also good, but I don’t like it anymore because: A. Fulton was a person, and Fulton street isn’t really an “object,” and B. Everyone loves Fulton, there’s a Fulton street everywhere, it’s not just Twain.
So I’m thinking the solution is “take a step towards the nearest newspaper box.” Now, we live in a different time, but I remember GGP in the early 80s, and there were always newspaper boxes next to bus stops. There’s a bus stop right outside the senior center. I surmise that we stand at the pole, take a giant step towards the bus stop, and dig.
Of course, I need to verify the bus stop was even there in 1980, or maybe even find a photo or map telling me where the newspaper box in the area was. But I think, no matter where the solution, a newspaper/newspaper box plays into it. If I do find good evidence of a newspaper box within sight of the post in 1980, I’m going to write up a solve (and mention Malted Falcon’s technique for leaving no trace of digging) and ask for permission when I get to SF in September. Feel free to beat me to it, but be sure to ask permission.

Wow, nice job gang, this stuff is so useful. I’m going to unpack it in a few hours when I get off work.
In the meantime, here’s something I posted in the wrong thread, it’s about SF:

I still lean toward the paddleboats in the lake as being the object of Twain’s attention. I associate Twain with the Mississippi River and boats far more than I would a newspaper.

mindydaile

I still lean toward the paddleboats in the lake as being the object of Twain’s attention. I associate Twain with the Mississippi River and boats far more than I would a newspaper.

Those paddleboats jumped to mind for me as well. However, I’m reluctant to accept them because “an object” as opposed to objects and there are dozens of them, located at different points around the lake throughout the day. “First across in jewel’s direction is an object of Twain’s attention” makes me really want to see a fixed, unique object that, combined with “Ace is high, running north” and “giant pole, giant step” can get me to a square foot of ground, or at least within sight of a strong match to some element of image 1.
In his prose, Twain does certainly use the word “attention” in the sense of having his narrator’s focus drawn to a person or object. You can google this quite handily in his works on Project Gutenberg. An example search would be:
site:www.gutenberg.org twain “my attention”
While I doubt that some obscure passage from one of Twain’s works is
required
for the solve, based on what we’ve seen with excerpts from
Abroad in America
I would not be shocked to find a Twain “Easter Egg” confirming the object. This could even be from one of the many 1970s-80s books about Twain or San Francisco.

“Giant pole, Giant step.”
What if the repeated use of ‘giant’ is there to create a comparative measurement? Like take a flagpole for instance. If a ‘giant pole’ were simply a 40 foot flagpole then we could assume that the ‘giant step’ we needed to make would be a 40 foot distance from that flagpole.

I have reason to be in San Francisco today, in Golden Gate Park as a matter of fact.  While there, I hope to have time to wander around with an eye out for new inspiration to this old, old riddle.  I do believe our biggest hurdle is that the features of the park have changed over time — the giant totem pole statue being the most obvious example.  I am having my breakfast now and reading this thread from the beginning, amazed that it was started almost three years ago.    Yes, I will take the verses with me today, hoping that something new will fall into place, but I won’t be bringing any digging tools.  It’s not that kind of trip for me (this time).
And Happy Chinese New Year!  The first day of the Year of the Golden Pig would be a most auspicious time to find the final clue to our Chinese themed treasure.

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How do people feel about the 4 symbols near the G and h on the robe? The two near the G are a triangle and square, the two near the h are a square and circle (or octagon).
I see traffic signs in this. If the image is flipped, the Great Highway makes more sense, and the traffic signs also make sense. Thoughts?

The take I have on what resources that people would of had back in 1980’s to what we have today, is different, i think speed is what we have to day verses 1980. Meaning we have technology that gives us information quicker. For these puzzles all you would of needed is…. A class room (what we learned in school) a Map of the area, A library, and a magnifying glass. The same as we have today . Internet (classroom) Map( google earth), Library (wiki and google) Magnifying glass (computer). Priess was a very smart man Graduated top of his class at Pennsylvania university and Masters at Stanford. So to him easy might not of been easy to common folk. I just think back in the 80’s we had all the things we have today but just today is much quicker in our movement.

The take
I
have on what resources that people would
of
had back in 1980’s to what we have today, is different,
i
think speed is what we have to day verses 1980. Meaning we have technology that gives us information quicker. For these puzzles all you would
of
needed is…. A class room (what we learned in school) a Map
of
the area, A library, and a magnifying glass. The same as we have today . Internet (classroom) Map( google earth), Library (wiki and google) Magnifying glass (computer). Priess was a very smart man Graduated top
of
his class at Pennsylvania university and Masters at Stanford. So to him easy might not
of
been easy to common folk.
I
just think back in the 80’s we had all the things we have today but just today is much quicker in our movement.

If these symbols are connected to traffic signs on the Great Highway, do you imagine there’s a significance beyond just confirming GH=Great highway?
I generally have a hard time getting invested in the symbols that aren’t I, II, III, yin-yang or G and h, because they are varying degrees of small and indistinct. Could they just be there to mask the more legible symbols?
When I do try to make sense of the four shape symbols along the top, I get:
-Alchemy something: doesn’t really lead anywhere except down a rabbit hole
-Numeric code, based on the number of sides to each shape: circle = 1, triangle = 3, square = 4
-Something to do with survey markers that could be found near the burial site, though I’m not sure that square with a dot in it is a valid marker symbol
-A cryptic representation of the letters ABCD, complementing the G and h (but where are E and F?)

If these symbols are connected to traffic signs on the Great Highway, do you imagine there’s a significance beyond just confirming GH=Great highway?
I
generally have a hard time getting invested in the symbols that aren’t
I
, II, III, yin-yang or G and h, because they are varying degrees
of
small and indistinct. Could they just be there to mask the more legible symbols?
When
I
do try to make sense
of
the four shape symbols along the top,
I
get:
-Alchemy something: doesn’t really lead anywhere except down a rabbit hole
-Numeric code, based on the number
of
sides to each shape: circle = 1, triangle = 3, square = 4
-Something to do with survey markers that could be found near the burial site, though
I
‘m not sure that square with a dot in it is a valid marker symbol
-A cryptic representation
of
the letters ABCD, complementing the G and h (but where are E and F?)

Perhaps those symbols are meant to lead us down Euclid. I know Cleveland’s solution has described the same approach. What could be the harm in Preiss using the same method twice?

Perhaps those symbols are meant to lead us down Euclid.
I
know Cleveland’s solution has described the same approach. What could be the harm in Preiss using the same method twice?

treetops

If these symbols are connected to traffic signs on the Great Highway, do you imagine there’s a significance beyond just confirming GH=Great highway?
I generally have a hard time getting invested in the symbols that aren’t I, II, III, yin-yang or G and h, because they are varying degrees of small and indistinct. Could they just be there to mask the more legible symbols?
When I do try to make sense of the four shape symbols along the top, I get:
-Alchemy something: doesn’t really lead anywhere except down a rabbit hole
-Numeric code, based on the number of sides to each shape: circle = 1, triangle = 3, square = 4
-Something to do with survey markers that could be found near the burial site, though I’m not sure that square with a dot in it is a valid marker symbol
-A cryptic representation of the letters ABCD, complementing the G and h (but where are E and F?)

I get that, but think about walking around or driving. I don’t think any of this is that deep in the sense of alchemy or code.
In actual orientation, the Great Highway (or Great highway) is busier on the south side, a divided section with 6 or 7 lanes, versus the north side of the park which is a normal double lane highway with maybe 4 or 5 lanes at the intersection. Looking to the north side, I see a that there would be stop sign and a square turn to the left sign. On the south side, which is crazy busy, I see a caution merge and possibly a turning circle sign. It would be great to see photos from the 80s of the Great highway, but when I look at the mirrored image from The Secret, the icons (can we call them that?) seem more prominent on the “G” side, which would be south.
The mirror image, at least on the top half also “looks right” but maybe that’s just the G h talking.

treetops

If these symbols are connected to traffic signs on the Great Highway, do you imagine there’s a significance beyond just confirming GH=Great highway?
I
generally have a hard time getting invested in the symbols that aren’t
I
, II, III, yin-yang or G and h, because they are varying degrees
of
small and indistinct. Could they just be there to mask the more legible symbols?
When
I
do try to make sense
of
the four shape symbols along the top,
I
get:
-Alchemy something: doesn’t really lead anywhere except down a rabbit hole
-Numeric code, based on the number
of
sides to each shape: circle = 1, triangle = 3, square = 4
-Something to do with survey markers that could be found near the burial site, though
I
‘m not sure that square with a dot in it is a valid marker symbol
-A cryptic representation
of
the letters ABCD, complementing the G and h (but where are E and F?)

I
get that, but think about walking around or driving.
I
don’t think any
of
this is that deep in the sense
of
alchemy or code.
In actual orientation, the Great Highway (or Great highway) is busier on the south side, a divided section with 6 or 7 lanes, versus the north side
of
the park which is a normal double lane highway with maybe 4 or 5 lanes at the intersection. Looking to the north side,
I
see a that there would be stop sign and a square turn to the left sign. On the south side, which is crazy busy,
I
see a caution merge and possibly a turning circle sign. It would be great to see photos from the 80s
of
the Great highway, but when
I
look at the mirrored image from The Secret, the icons (can we call them that?) seem more prominent on the “G” side, which would be south.
The mirror image, at least on the top half also “looks right” but maybe that’s just the G h talking.

erexere

Perhaps those symbols are meant to lead us down Euclid. I know Cleveland’s solution has described the same approach. What could be the harm in Preiss using the same method twice?

Isn’t the triangle in the Cleveland image thought to represent the number 3? That’s one of the things that made me think of sides = numbers for these symbols.
If interpreted that way, and we go with circle, square, square, triangle, we’d have:
14 hG 43
The only sense I can make of this is that the exits for Chain of Lakes Drive are 41st and 43rd avenue (was this always the case?), but that requires an arbitrary decision to read the numbers from inside to outside in both directions. This does again echo methods from image 4, but is that justified?

erexere

Perhaps those symbols are meant to lead us down Euclid.
I
know Cleveland’s solution has described the same approach. What could be the harm in Preiss using the same method twice?

Isn’t the triangle in the Cleveland image thought to represent the number 3? That’s one
of
the things that made me think
of
sides = numbers for these symbols.
If interpreted that way, and we go with circle, square, square, triangle, we’d have:
14 hG 43
The only sense
I
can make
of
this is that the exits for Chain
of
Lakes Drive are 41st and 43rd avenue (was this always the case?), but that requires an arbitrary decision to read the numbers from inside to outside in both directions. This does again echo methods from image 4, but is that justified?

treetops

Isn’t the triangle in the Cleveland image thought to represent the number 3? That’s one of the things that made me think of sides = numbers for these symbols.
If interpreted that way, and we go with circle, square, square, triangle, we’d have:
14 hG 43
The only sense I can make of this is that the exits for Chain of Lakes Drive are 41st and 43rd avenue (was this always the case?), but that requires an arbitrary decision to read the numbers from inside to outside in both directions. This does again echo methods from image 4, but is that justified?

I’m not discounting any other theories, just looking at this from a on-the-ground practical view point. I’ve been staring at these puzzles for maybe a month and thinking from a lot of directions, but mostly 1 or 2 layers deep. If I was searching for a treasure in 1982, I wouldn’t think much beyond that. Yes, that is an affirmation that we have become smarter, maybe to our chagrin, and rely too much on the internet or other resources. Let’s roll back to 1982. What do we have at our disposal? A street map, historical writings, people, and our senses. We could ride in a car or other standard mode of transportation and observe. We can walk around. We can look at a map. We can ask people what was important. Beyond that we have nothing.
When this was done in 1982, they (being the authors and the illustrators) had not much to go on. A map. A tale. A body of water or land. Traffic signs. Things that show up in Polaroids or maybe old photos. The authors, primarily Preiss, had an interest in selling books. Why would they create something layers and layers deep that could not be solved? Maybe to give up only a few casques, but I don’t think so. So let’s reel it in and consider what was the intent. I think to create some easy and some slightly harder puzzles for people to solve. The author himself said that he expected these to be solved in a few months. Granted what is easy to one person may not be to everyone, but I believe that the more time that passes, people mistakenly believe that these are more complicated than they are.
The major problem I see is that the book did not get the traction it was intended to, and probably deserved, when released. Given the relatively fluid changes in these public works (being the locations), and the general thought processes of humanity, some things are lost over time. It is hard in 2018 to picture what the culture and social outlook was in 1982, even if you lived it. Hell, I hardly remember 10 years ago.
Coming back to what I said in my last post, why not simplify? Let’s go back to ’82. I figure out that the girl in the Image is a representation of Golden Gate Park. She is a map. Wait, the Great Hwy is reversed, no problem, I’ll get a mirror. This is basic sleuth stuff. I had a secret decoder ring in the 60’s or 70’s from the back of a comic book. Okay, what’s next? Heck, some of these features look familiar. I drill down and match a verse that makes sense. Was Chicago or Cleveland that complicated? No, maybe more straightforward, but not complicated, like you needed an advanced dual-degree in ancient Nordic astrology and biophysics to understand these riddles.
I believe that this book was Preiss’ greatest achievement and failure at the same time. It’s possible that he lamented this fact later, when our predecessors found the casque in Cleveland, He marveled at the fact that they were so ambitious and worked so hard for years to crack this code, and yet he seemed to have moved on from this chapter, while retaining some youthful enthusiasm, like finding an old dairy that was well written but full of pubescent braggadocio.
Let’s go back to basics here, especially for San Francisco. There’s an image that is actually well defined by map placement. There’s a verse, if by no other reason, by process of elimination. There are some clues. Could it be that hard? I don’t think so. Does the casque exist? Maybe. Time has passed. Things have changed. But at the heart of it, there is a solution, and I doubt it is complicated. Look at the things that are generally immovable, like rivers and main streets. Stuff that shows up in searches over years and years. The objects, the shapes. They still exist. Finding them is the key.

treetops

Isn’t the triangle in the Cleveland image thought to represent the number 3? That’s one
of
the things that made me think
of
sides = numbers for these symbols.
If interpreted that way, and we go with circle, square, square, triangle, we’d have:
14 hG 43
The only sense
I
can make
of
this is that the exits for Chain
of
Lakes Drive are 41st and 43rd avenue (was this always the case?), but that requires an arbitrary decision to read the numbers from inside to outside in both directions. This does again echo methods from image 4, but is that justified?

I
‘m not discounting any other theories, just looking at this from a on-the-ground practical view point.
I
‘ve been staring at these puzzles for maybe a month and thinking from a lot
of
directions, but mostly 1 or 2 layers deep. If
I
was searching for a treasure in 1982,
I
wouldn’t think much beyond that. Yes, that is an affirmation that we have become smarter, maybe to our chagrin, and rely too much on the internet or other resources. Let’s roll back to 1982. What do we have at our disposal? A street map, historical writings, people, and our senses. We could ride in a car or other standard mode
of
transportation and observe. We can walk around. We can look at a map. We can ask people what was important. Beyond that we have nothing.
When this was done in 1982, they (being the authors and the illustrators) had not much to go on. A map. A tale. A body
of
water or land. Traffic signs. Things that show up in Polaroids or maybe old photos. The authors, primarily Preiss, had an interest in selling books. Why would they create something layers and layers deep that could not be solved? Maybe to give up only a few casques, but
I
don’t think so. So let’s reel it in and consider what was the intent.
I
think to create some easy and some slightly harder puzzles for people to solve. The author himself said that he expected these to be solved in a few months. Granted what is easy to one person may not be to everyone, but
I
believe that the more time that passes, people mistakenly believe that these are more complicated than they are.
The major problem
I
see is that the book did not get the traction it was intended to, and probably deserved, when released. Given the relatively fluid changes in these public works (being the locations), and the general thought processes
of
humanity, some things are lost over time. It is hard in 2018 to picture what the culture and social outlook was in 1982, even if you lived it. Hell,
I
hardly remember 10 years ago.
Coming back to what
I
said in my last post, why not simplify? Let’s go back to ’82.
I
figure out that the girl in the Image is a representation
of
Golden Gate Park. She is a map. Wait, the Great Hwy is reversed, no problem,
I
‘ll get a mirror. This is basic sleuth stuff.
I
had a secret decoder ring in the 60’s or 70’s from the back
of
a comic book. Okay, what’s next? Heck, some
of
these features look familiar.
I
drill down and match a verse that makes sense. Was Chicago or Cleveland that complicated? No, maybe more straightforward, but not complicated, like you needed an advanced dual-degree in ancient Nordic astrology and biophysics to understand these riddles.
I
believe that this book was Preiss’ greatest achievement and failure at the same time. It’s possible that he lamented this fact later, when our predecessors found the casque in Cleveland, He marveled at the fact that they were so ambitious and worked so hard for years to crack this code, and yet he seemed to have moved on from this chapter, while retaining some youthful enthusiasm, like finding an old dairy that was well written but full
of
pubescent braggadocio.
Let’s go back to basics here, especially for San Francisco. There’s an image that is actually well defined by map placement. There’s a verse, if by no other reason, by process
of
elimination. There are some clues. Could it be that hard?
I
don’t think so. Does the casque exist? Maybe. Time has passed. Things have changed. But at the heart
of
it, there is a solution, and
I
doubt it is complicated. Look at the things that are generally immovable, like rivers and main streets. Stuff that shows up in searches over years and years. The objects, the shapes. They still exist. Finding them is the key.

Great thoughts gmanTexas.
This doesn’t look like a simple image. A woman with her arms crossed -never a good sign…, standing, next to a table, watch, rose, and some prison gate in the side of a hill in the distance. Don’t forget there’s a bunch of big white orbs in the sky (making sounds?). She has a pearl for a prominentia laryngea. Perhaps the object of Twain’s attention, meant to be the pearl in this image, has something to do with the
Extracts from Adam’s Diary.
This leads me again to the Three Shades (
Adam
) sculpture once located at the Palace of the Legion of Honor on that car sized plinth.

Great thoughts gmanTexas.
This doesn’t look like a simple image. A woman with her arms crossed -never a good sign…, standing, next to a table, watch, rose, and some prison gate in the side
of
a hill in the distance. Don’t forget there’s a bunch
of
big white orbs in the sky (making sounds?). She has a pearl for a prominentia laryngea. Perhaps the object
of
Twain’s attention, meant to be the pearl in this image, has something to do with the
Extracts from Adam’s Diary.
This leads me again to the Three Shades (
Adam
) sculpture once located at the Palace
of
the Legion
of
Honor on that car sized plinth.

Wow, great breakdown, Goonie.
I like to think (hope?) that part of the difficulty in these solves is that Preiss chose spots to represent the dig site that are not perceptible on Gogle Earth. Like is that fence and fencepost from chicago even perceptible?

Wow, great breakdown, Goonie.
I
like to think (hope?) that part
of
the difficulty in these solves is that Preiss chose spots to represent the dig site that are not perceptible on Gogle Earth. Like is that fence and fencepost from chicago even perceptible?

Okay, finally got my solve together after revisiting this Image again. I have this casque located no where near Golden Gate park. The casque is located in San Francisco Maritime National Historic Park by the Powell-Hyde Turnaround at Beach and Hyde. Some members have discussed elements of this possibility but not the spot for my dig or the details I’ve concluded.
Verse 7
At stone wall’s door
– San Francisco Bay
The air smells sweet
– Ghiradelli
Alcatraz seems like an obvious one here and Ghiradelli is too. I stayed in SF 11 years ago on a vacation right next door to the turnaround in the Argonaut Hotel and the first two things that hit you when you walk out are the view of Alcatraz and the incredible smell of chocolate.
Not far away
– Aquatic Park
High posts are three
– Balclutha (1886 ship)
Aquatic Park is right at the corner of the Maritime Park and has many beautiful old ships docked at the Hyde Street Pier. The Balclutha can be seen from all over this area.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Education and Justice
– Galileo Academy and Alcatraz
For all to see
– Both are easy to view from a distance
Sounds from the sky
– This refers to the Foghorns in the bay
Near ace is high
– Alice Marble Tennis Courts at George Sterling Park
The Cable Car route for Powell-Hyde runs right passed this park which is known for its great viewing area for the Golden Gate Bridge and Alcatraz Island. The Alice marble Tennis Courts sit on top of this park.
Running north, but first across
-The Powell-Hyde Cable Car route runs to the North from Market St., across Jackson and then North to the Hyde & Beach Turnaround
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
In jewel’s direction
– Hyde Street Pier
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
– Paddle Wheel as you enter Hyde Street Pier
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Giant pole
– The Speaking Tower in the park to the West of the Cable Car Turnaround
Giant step
– Not the set of Steps on the beach but a “figurative” step toward the Cable CarTurnaround
Take a Giant step to the East and that will put you at the outside of the Cable Car Turnaround
To the place
The casque is kept.
– Dig Spot in the Landscaping just below (North side) of the Cable Car Turnaround.
Image 8
—————–
Let’s start with the
white balls
in the sky. These are the unique round lights that are around the SF Maritime Park in pairs, in front of Ghiradelli and on the Friedel Klussmann sign when you enter to ride the Cable Car. Also notice the wrought iron decor wrapped around the ball at this location. This wrought iron is all over the city of SF but very noticeable around Hyde and Beach Streets as well.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
The wrought iron is what is represented by the rose vine in the image curling around the table.
Window
on the Stone window is Alcatraz. There are many faces and images in the rocks that have been discussed like
Ronald Reagan
, I’m sure everyone can see different thing here but they are not important to my solve.
Let’s talk about the table and the rose.
It was pointed out by a few that the leg of the table resembles a cable car, and I agree. But what I see is actually a Cable Car on the Coit Tower. The top of the Table is what is known as the Tabletop in the Turnaround that the cable cars stop and spin around into the other direction on. And let me give credit to Kalessin from the post on page 70 noticing the winder on top of the clock is actually the bell on top of a cable car.
As you look at the rose notice how the background of the rose is above the horizon line with the “Rock” behind it. This signifies something very cool in my opinion. The rose is called a
Bardou Job Rose
. It is grown on Alcatraz Island and this is just a way to show the importance of the Gardens of Alcatraz.
https://www.roguevalleyroses.com/rose/bardou-job
As mentioned the curly vine of the rose doesn’t make the Letter “J”, it is representing the wrought iron designs used all over the area around the SF Maritime Park. The number 3 that has been mentioned in the vine in my opinion is actually the Letter “M” for Maritime.
Now for the Lady
Her fingers are pointing to the 4th sqaure on each sleeve. This represents the 44 hills of San Francisco. Her
arms are crossed
to show the crossing of the rails on the turnaround. There are a couple sets of tracks for the Cable Cars that cross over on the turnaround.
The
Sea Serpent
is a conjunction of things. It is the platform on top of the turnaround. The squares are the bricks on the turnaround that the tracks are embedded into. The Sea Serpent also represents the Cable Car system itself by the way it snakes its way around the city of SF. Now, on the Serpent in Image 1 there is what appears to be a Strawberry. And while this may be a strawberry, I see it as a representation of the famous Wildberries that grow on Alcatraz Island.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Symbols on Her Cloak
The
Backward “G” and “h”
are for us being behind the Ghiradelli Sign. But, she is on the “other side” of Ghiradelli like the Powell-Hyde Turnaround.
Squares, Circles, Triangles
at the top are Freemason symbols. Square representing N,S,E,W, also representing the Earth, Wind, Fire and Water. Circles represent the Sun. The Triangle is considered the most important because it represents the Diety.
Latitude and Longitude are represented by the Roman numerals
I-I-II and I-II-III
. Most everyone knows that one.
The
Yin and Yang symbol
is there to represent Fire and Water because from this area you can see the Historic San Francisco Fire Department Pumping Station #2. It was built after the great earthquake of 1906.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/nat1976000177.asp
The letter
“A”
on the left side is for Alcatraz.
The
upside down IV
on the right side is the “6” on the Ghiradelli Clock Tower.
The
“X”
is in the logo from the South End Rowing Club at the North end of the Maritime Park.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
The “A” on the right side is from the Argonaut Hotel next to the Turnaround.
The other symbols at the bottom have me baffled. Help me out here if anyone has any ideas, I’m stumped on these.
Now lets look as her Hair. The part in her hair appears to be the entrance of the Cable Cars coming from Hyde St into the Turnaround. The two strands of hair are the tracks. And what I see with the jewel is this, her chin is the boundary of the Powell-Hyde Turnaround. The sidewalk going around the Turnaround is the top of her Cloak. This would mean the landscaping (her hair) area between the Turnaround and the Sidewalk is my Dig Spot.
There you have it, my dig spot for San Francisco.
MrBackstop

Okay, finally got my solve together after revisiting this Image again.
I
have this casque located no where near Golden Gate park. The casque is located in San Francisco Maritime National Historic Park by the Powell-Hyde Turnaround at Beach and Hyde. Some members have discussed elements
of
this possibility but not the spot for my dig or the details
I
‘ve concluded.
Verse 7
At stone wall’s door
– San Francisco Bay
The air smells sweet
– Ghiradelli
Alcatraz seems like an obvious one here and Ghiradelli is too.
I
stayed in SF 11 years ago on a vacation right next door to the turnaround in the Argonaut Hotel and the first two things that hit you when you walk out are the view
of
Alcatraz and the incredible smell
of
chocolate.
Not far away
– Aquatic Park
High posts are three
– Balclutha (1886 ship)
Aquatic Park is right at the corner
of
the Maritime Park and has many beautiful old ships docked at the Hyde Street Pier. The Balclutha can be seen from all over this area.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Education and Justice
– Galileo Academy and Alcatraz
For all to see
– Both are easy to view from a distance
Sounds from the sky
– This refers to the Foghorns in the bay
Near ace is high
– Alice Marble Tennis Courts at George Sterling Park
The Cable Car route for Powell-Hyde runs right passed this park which is known for its great viewing area for the Golden Gate Bridge and Alcatraz Island. The Alice marble Tennis Courts sit on top
of
this park.
Running north, but first across
-The Powell-Hyde Cable Car route runs to the North from Market St., across Jackson and then North to the Hyde & Beach Turnaround
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
In jewel’s direction
– Hyde Street Pier
Is an object
Of
Twain’s attention
– Paddle Wheel as you enter Hyde Street Pier
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Giant pole
– The Speaking Tower in the park to the West
of
the Cable Car Turnaround
Giant step
– Not the set
of
Steps on the beach but a “figurative” step toward the Cable CarTurnaround
Take a Giant step to the East and that will put you at the outside
of
the Cable Car Turnaround
To the place
The casque is kept.
– Dig Spot in the Landscaping just below (North side)
of
the Cable Car Turnaround.
Image 8
—————–
Let’s start with the
white balls
in the sky. These are the unique round lights that are around the SF Maritime Park in pairs, in front
of
Ghiradelli and on the Friedel Klussmann sign when you enter to ride the Cable Car. Also notice the wrought iron decor wrapped around the ball at this location. This wrought iron is all over the city
of
SF but very noticeable around Hyde and Beach Streets as well.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
The wrought iron is what is represented by the rose vine in the image curling around the table.
Window
on the Stone window is Alcatraz. There are many faces and images in the rocks that have been discussed like
Ronald Reagan
,
I
‘m sure everyone can see different thing here but they are not important to my solve.
Let’s talk about the table and the rose.
It was pointed out by a few that the leg
of
the table resembles a cable car, and
I
agree. But what
I
see is actually a Cable Car on the Coit Tower. The top
of
the Table is what is known as the Tabletop in the Turnaround that the cable cars stop and spin around into the other direction on. And let me give credit to Kalessin from the post on page 70 noticing the winder on top
of
the clock is actually the bell on top
of
a cable car.
As you look at the rose notice how the background
of
the rose is above the horizon line with the “Rock” behind it. This signifies something very cool in my opinion. The rose is called a
Bardou Job Rose
. It is grown on Alcatraz Island and this is just a way to show the importance
of
the Gardens
of
Alcatraz.
https://www.roguevalleyroses.com/rose/bardou-job
As mentioned the curly vine
of
the rose doesn’t make the Letter “J”, it is representing the wrought iron designs used all over the area around the SF Maritime Park. The number 3 that has been mentioned in the vine in my opinion is actually the Letter “M” for Maritime.
Now for the Lady
Her fingers are pointing to the 4th sqaure on each sleeve. This represents the 44 hills
of
San Francisco. Her
arms are crossed
to show the crossing
of
the rails on the turnaround. There are a couple sets
of
tracks for the Cable Cars that cross over on the turnaround.
The
Sea Serpent
is a conjunction
of
things. It is the platform on top
of
the turnaround. The squares are the bricks on the turnaround that the tracks are embedded into. The Sea Serpent also represents the Cable Car system itself by the way it snakes its way around the city
of
SF. Now, on the Serpent in Image 1 there is what appears to be a Strawberry. And while this may be a strawberry,
I
see it as a representation
of
the famous Wildberries that grow on Alcatraz Island.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
Symbols on Her Cloak
The
Backward “G” and “h”
are for us being behind the Ghiradelli Sign. But, she is on the “other side”
of
Ghiradelli like the Powell-Hyde Turnaround.
Squares, Circles, Triangles
at the top are Freemason symbols. Square representing N,S,E,W, also representing the Earth, Wind, Fire and Water. Circles represent the Sun. The Triangle is considered the most important because it represents the Diety.
Latitude and Longitude are represented by the Roman numerals
I
–
I
-II and
I
-II-III
. Most everyone knows that one.
The
Yin and Yang symbol
is there to represent Fire and Water because from this area you can see the Historic San Francisco Fire Department Pumping Station #2. It was built after the great earthquake
of
1906.
https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/nat1976000177.asp
The letter
“A”
on the left side is for Alcatraz.
The
upside down IV
on the right side is the “6” on the Ghiradelli Clock Tower.
The
“X”
is in the logo from the South End Rowing Club at the North end
of
the Maritime Park.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?view= … ajaxhist=0
The “A” on the right side is from the Argonaut Hotel next to the Turnaround.
The other symbols at the bottom have me baffled. Help me out here if anyone has any ideas,
I
‘m stumped on these.
Now lets look as her Hair. The part in her hair appears to be the entrance
of
the Cable Cars coming from Hyde St into the Turnaround. The two strands
of
hair are the tracks. And what
I
see with the jewel is this, her chin is the boundary
of
the Powell-Hyde Turnaround. The sidewalk going around the Turnaround is the top
of
her Cloak. This would mean the landscaping (her hair) area between the Turnaround and the Sidewalk is my Dig Spot.
There you have it, my dig spot for San Francisco.
MrBackstop

Just one note: you might want to revise the detail about the Balclutha after reading this. It was moved to its present location in the late 80s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balclutha_(1886
)

Unknown

Unknown:
Just one note

Only one?

ahh, thanks Jimerson..
what the heck is Sidiothorpe?

Fox, apologies for being so brief earlier. Here is more about how I get to “Mr. Equine”.
My theory so far…
Image 1 is a map on 2 levels. First an aerial representation of Golden Gate Park. Second, a map of the horseshoe pits as viewed facing east.
The horseshoe pits are near the northeast corner of the park. Easily accessible by car, you can park right at the stairway.
In the image the dragon’s tail represents the stairway leading up to the horseshoe pits. The lamp post is on the left side of the stairs. While the outline in the image is not an exact match to the lamp post in the photo, I believe it just indicates it is on the left side.
The dragon’s head represents the horse’s head. Both heads face to the left.
The pearl could represent the sun or the moon, as both would rise above the horse (east).
The blocks on the sleeves represent the sand pits, and the crossed arms and pointing fingers represent the game of horseshoes, throwing from one side to the other, then back.
Directly under the hands are the top of the dragons wings, resembling horseshoes.
I believe there are 2 possible locations for the casque: in one of the sand pits or under the horse relief. If it is in the sand pits, I am not sure how to determine which one to dig. I tried to probe in the sand with a 4′ long thin metal rod, but I could only get it down about 3″. The sand is compacted quite a lot. I have dug at the front hoof of the horse, very rocky soil, perhaps I just didn’t dig deep enough.
See the horseshoe pits photos here:
http://www.cobbcrew.org/GoldenGate/Hors … html 
(slow server)
p.s. Scunthorpe

treetops

I just sent an email off to the Victorian Alliance of San Francisco asking for any information they have about that style of fountain and whether they were installed in other parks in the city. There might be some pdfs of old trade catalogues out there that can lead us to manufacturer and model names. I’d sure love for there to have once been one behind the Senior Center in Golden Gate Park.

Good thinking!

treetops

I just sent an email off to the Victorian Alliance of San Francisco asking for any information they have about that style of fountain and whether they were installed in other parks in the city. There might be some pdfs of old trade catalogues out there that can lead us to manufacturer and model names. I’d sure love for there to have once been one behind the
Senior
Center in Golden Gate Park.

Good thinking!

treetops

I
just sent an email off to the Victorian Alliance
of
San Francisco asking for any information they have about that style
of
fountain and whether they were installed in other parks in the city. There might be some pdfs
of
old trade catalogues out there that can lead us to manufacturer and model names.
I
‘d sure love for there to have once been one behind the Senior Center in Golden Gate Park.

Good thinking!

Here we go:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/product-category.aspx?ProductCategoryID=22
Obviously these are modern updates on classic styles, but this company has been around for a long time, making similar fountains.
And just to burn it into your brain:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/uploads/fileLibrary/M-C76C.jpg

treetops

Here we go:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/product-category.aspx?ProductCategoryID=22
Obviously these are modern updates on classic styles, but this company has been around for a long time, making similar fountains.
And just to burn it into your brain:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/uploads/fileLibrary/M-C76C.jpg

Not bad. I like drunknerd’s match to the senior center dragon pole better, but this is not bad.

treetops

Here we go:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/product-category.aspx?ProductCategoryID=22
Obviously these are modern updates on classic styles, but this company has been around for a long time, making similar fountains.
And just to burn it into your brain:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/uploads/fileLibrary/M-C76C.jpg

Not bad. I like drunknerd’s match to the
senior
center dragon pole better, but this is not bad.

treetops

Here we go:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/product-category.aspx?ProductCategoryID=22
Obviously these are modern updates on classic styles, but this company has been around for a long time, making similar fountains.
And just to burn it into your brain:
https://www.murdockmfg.com/uploads/fileLibrary/M-C76C.jpg

Not bad.
I
like drunknerd’s match to the senior center dragon pole better, but this is not bad.

I
like the drinking fountain match to the bronze ring. That’s great.
I
do not see any match between the bases. The image base widens past its post on four spots before tapering down to a long pole at the bottom. The drinking fountain has 9-10 different “widenings” before reaching the long narrow base
of
the pole, none
of
these taperings correspond to those
of
the image, save maybe that big section near the top.
I
‘ve been trying for half an hour to draw some point
of
comparison between the two and
I
can’t even find a starting point.
That said, contacting the company was a great idea: Maybe there was another fountain there before that bore a more striking resemblance.

I like the drinking fountain match to the bronze ring. That’s great.
I do not see any match between the bases. The image base widens past its post on four spots before tapering down to a long pole at the bottom. The drinking fountain has 9-10 different “widenings” before reaching the long narrow base of the pole, none of these taperings correspond to those of the image, save maybe that big section near the top. I’ve been trying for half an hour to draw some point of comparison between the two and I can’t even find a starting point.
That said, contacting the company was a great idea: Maybe there was another fountain there before that bore a more striking resemblance.

I like the drinking
fountain
match to the bronze ring. That’s great.
I do not see any match between the bases. The image base widens past its post on four spots before tapering down to a long pole at the bottom. The drinking
fountain
has 9-10 different “widenings” before reaching the long narrow base of the pole, none of these taperings correspond to those of the image, save maybe that big section near the top. I’ve been trying for half an hour to draw some point of comparison between the two and I can’t even find a starting point.
That said, contacting the company was a great idea: Maybe there was another
fountain
there before that bore a more striking resemblance.

Generally agreed on the specific Murdock fountain not being quite as perfect a match as
I
‘d like.

Generally agreed on the specific Murdock fountain not being quite as perfect a match as I’d like.

Generally agreed on the specific Murdock
fountain
not being quite as perfect a match as I’d like.

So the thinking is that it’s a fountain and not a cable car for the base??

So the thinking is that it’s a
fountain
and not a cable car for the base??

I
was leaning cable car until
I
was reminded
of
White Rabbit’s fountain discovery.
I
really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking fountain base, instead
of
a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

I was leaning cable car until I was reminded of White Rabbit’s fountain discovery. I really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking fountain base, instead of a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

I was leaning cable car until I was reminded of White Rabbit’s
fountain
discovery. I really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking
fountain
base, instead of a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

Goonie68

So the thinking is that it’s a fountain and not a cable car for the base??

I
‘m
of
the opinion that items in the image are used as references to multiple items. Could be both a cable car and fountain/pole/building/etc.

Goonie68

So the thinking is that it’s a fountain and not a cable car for the base??

I’m of the opinion that items in the image are used as references to multiple items. Could be both a cable car and fountain/pole/building/etc.

Goonie68

So the thinking is that it’s a
fountain
and not a cable car for the base??

I’m of the opinion that items in the image are used as references to multiple items. Could be both a cable car and
fountain
/pole/building/etc.

The existence
of
this type
of
fountain in GGP, now or in the past, is purely speculative anyway. Any locals here remember seeing them at some point before the current, blockier fountains were installed? Time to dive back into the image archives.

The existence of this type of fountain in GGP, now or in the past, is purely speculative anyway. Any locals here remember seeing them at some point before the current, blockier fountains were installed? Time to dive back into the image archives.

The existence of this type of
fountain
in GGP, now or in the past, is purely speculative anyway. Any locals here remember seeing them at some point before the current, blockier fountains were installed? Time to dive back into the image archives.

Agree or disagree: The body
of
the dragon represents stones or bricks?

Agree or disagree: The body of the dragon represents stones or bricks?

Goonie68

Agree or disagree: The body
of
the dragon represents stones or bricks?

Yes, or city blocks is my bet.
I
just haven’t had the patience to try and match them up.

Closest things
I
‘ve seen in GGP are the stones
of
both the Sharon Arts Studio building and the McLaren Lodge. Similar irregular sizes, though
I
haven’t gone around either hunting for groupings that are exact matches.
http://sfrecpark.org/wp-content/uploads/McLaren_Lodge-586×286.jpg
https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000uaixrjSr_xs/fit=1000×750/sharon-art-studio-2.jpg

Goonie68

Agree or disagree: The body of the dragon represents stones or bricks?

Yes, or city blocks is my bet. I just haven’t had the patience to try and match them up.

Closest things I’ve seen in GGP are the stones of both the Sharon Arts Studio building and the McLaren Lodge. Similar irregular sizes, though I haven’t gone around either hunting for groupings that are exact matches.
http://sfrecpark.org/wp-content/uploads/McLaren_Lodge-586×286.jpg
https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000uaixrjSr_xs/fit=1000×750/sharon-art-studio-2.jpg

What if
I
told you
I
know
of
a picture
of
golden gate park with a cable car in it!

What if I told you I know of a picture of golden gate park with a cable car in it!

treetops

I
was leaning cable car until
I
was reminded
of
White Rabbit’s fountain discovery.
I
really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking fountain base, instead
of
a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

Agreed. There is a lot to like in the White Rabbit solution as well that seem Preiss-esque, including Octavia (the Eighth), the long palm (tennis court). Also would add Spreckels Mansion as the “White House.”

Bring it on! Those “cable car” party buses don’t count!

treetops

I was leaning cable car until I was reminded of White Rabbit’s fountain discovery. I really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking fountain base, instead of a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

Agreed. There is a lot to like in the White Rabbit solution as well that seem Preiss-esque, including Octavia (the Eighth), the long palm (tennis court). Also would add Spreckels Mansion as the “White House.”

treetops

I was leaning cable car until I was reminded of White Rabbit’s
fountain
discovery. I really prefer it be a specific marker in the dig area, like a drinking
fountain
base, instead of a useless, “Hey there, San Francisco here!” indicator

Agreed. There is a lot to like in the White Rabbit solution as well that seem Preiss-esque, including Octavia (the Eighth), the long palm (tennis court). Also would add Spreckels Mansion as the “White House.”

LL NO party bus here!!!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39756932514/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=
i
&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwib8Z2Jv7_ZAhVMsxQKHcz1BqwQjhx6BAgAEAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanfranciscodays.com%2Fpark-history%2F&psig=AOvVaw1miMx64JL3zvq1RzgM_C-9&ust=1519594012663769
Brought!

LL NO party bus here!!!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39756932514/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwib8Z2Jv7_ZAhVMsxQKHcz1BqwQjhx6BAgAEAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanfranciscodays.com%2Fpark-history%2F&psig=AOvVaw1miMx64JL3zvq1RzgM_C-9&ust=1519594012663769
Brought!

Check out the BIG WHEEL in the picture!!! Must date it to about 1970’s to 1980’s!

Goonie68

:rofl LL NO party bus here!!!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39756932514/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=
i
&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwib8Z2Jv7_ZAhVMsxQKHcz1BqwQjhx6BAgAEAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanfranciscodays.com%2Fpark-history%2F&psig=AOvVaw1miMx64JL3zvq1RzgM_C-9&ust=1519594012663769
Brought!

Boy,
I
love those old death trap playgrounds! Man, that was when you could really have a good time.

Goonie68

:rofl LL NO party bus here!!!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/138281177@N05/39756932514/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwib8Z2Jv7_ZAhVMsxQKHcz1BqwQjhx6BAgAEAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sanfranciscodays.com%2Fpark-history%2F&psig=AOvVaw1miMx64JL3zvq1RzgM_C-9&ust=1519594012663769
Brought!

Boy, I love those old death trap playgrounds! Man, that was when you could really have a good time.

Oh, I forgot to mention, the quick litmus test that eliminates 90% of potential pole matches, at least for me, is “does it have a rectangle?”
The image clearly has a large rectangular section. Now, obviously, in 3 dimensions it might be rounded, but it’s still a cylinder- so it has a cross section and profile of a rectangle.
I just can’t see BP or JJP looking at a picture of a post that rounds out and thinking “I’ll paint that as a completely different shape.” That’s not a puzzle, that’s just drawing something wrong.

Goldengate

No kidding… there used to be a decommissioned jet you could crawl all over in Larson Park in the Sunset District… literally tunnel all the way through it from the air intake below the cockpit to the tail. The thing was a tetanus factory — last I heard they removed it and are trying to get it restored for a museum!

Haha I used to love that!
“NO MORE WAR TOYS”

DUDE that jet was the boom!!!! Had swim lessons down the street at the swim center!!!

YEP!!! I would of been 70’s

Goonie68

YEP!!! I would of been 70’s

Oh, I had swim lessons there in 1981 when I was 3.
Awesome!

Have people been looking out for the wall that runs across this pic…?

This is all rough, but I wanted to throw an idea out there. I have no idea about the giant pole and step after following what I mention below:
Land’s End Press was the first publisher of Twain’s “1601…” (other than anonymous or twain himself)
pick up where you all left off at the stone walls door
…and justice
for all to see (go to flagpole)
Sounds from the sky (??)
Near ace is high (go to hole 14)
Running north (go due north), but first across (el camino del mar)
In jewel’s direction (in site’s direction)
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention (land’s end… eagle’s point)
the strand of hair matches the path b/w camino del mar and land’s end trl
unfortunately, I think there are many signs that look like this (with different locations inscribed – sutro, etc.), however…
interestingly, the hands could be roughly making an L and a D… the first and last letters of “lands end,” specific to this sign.
again, this is rough, but I thought I’d throw it in the mix (and i really do think the resemblance of the sleeves and the national park emblem quite good).

This is all rough, but
I
wanted to throw an idea out there.
I
have no idea about the giant pole and step after following what
I
mention below:
Land’s End Press was the first publisher
of
Twain’s “1601…” (other than anonymous or twain himself)
pick up where you all left off at the stone walls door
…and justice
for all to see (go to flagpole)
Sounds from the sky (??)
Near ace is high (go to hole 14)
Running north (go due north), but first across (el camino del mar)
In jewel’s direction (in site’s direction)
Is an object
Of
Twain’s attention (land’s end… eagle’s point)
the strand
of
hair matches the path b/w camino del mar and land’s end trl
unfortunately,
I
think there are many signs that look like this (with different locations inscribed – sutro, etc.), however…
interestingly, the hands could be roughly making an L and a D… the first and last letters
of
“lands end,” specific to this sign.
again, this is rough, but
I
thought
I
‘d throw it in the mix (and
i
really do think the resemblance
of
the sleeves and the national park emblem quite good).

421, looks like good offerings to me.  I’m really happy with the ettiquette approach.  In golf, when a ball is in flight towards anyone who might be in the path, the right thing to do is make a sound by raising your voice to shout “Fore!”
I’m still working out my approach with the triangulation idea.  Will post results soon.

421, looks like good offerings to me.
I
‘m really happy with the ettiquette approach.  In golf, when a ball is in flight towards anyone who might be in the path, the right thing to do is make a sound by raising your voice to shout “Fore!”
I
‘m still working out my approach with the triangulation idea.  Will post results soon.

Thanks, buddy. Look forward to it.

WhiteRabbit

Have people been looking out for the wall that runs across this pic…?

nope totally missed that
great catch

maltedfalcon

nope totally missed that
great catch

Yeah, that looks like a great catch.  Are you thinking railing and fountain?

That is a great catch indeed.
I’m sure this type of bordering could be found almost anywhere though.  Here it is running along the building atop the columns…there is a wall section under the bordering at the arched entry.
hmmmmmmm, do you see something in this pic which also ties in with the Cleveland find (think of Sir Egg’s account of his find)?  It also ties in quite nicely with accounts I have read about one of our possible sites at the Elizabethan Gardens.  I’m sure it’s just a coincidence though since it doesnt really fit with the Chicago find.

That is a great catch indeed.
I
‘m sure this type
of
bordering could be found almost anywhere though.  Here it is running along the building atop the columns…there is a wall section under the bordering at the arched entry.
hmmmmmmm, do you see something in this pic which also ties in with the Cleveland find (think
of
Sir Egg’s account
of
his find)?  It also ties in quite nicely with accounts
I
have read about one
of
our possible sites at the Elizabethan Gardens.
I
‘m sure it’s just a coincidence though since it doesnt really fit with the Chicago find.

or maybe……..
It doesnt seem to have quite the same border but it does flare out like it does in whiterabbit’s blow up of the wall.  The more I look at it, the more it looks like the base/pedestal of a statue of some sort.

or maybe……..
It doesnt seem to have quite the same border but it does flare out like it does in whiterabbit’s blow up
of
the wall.  The more
I
look at it, the more it looks like the base/pedestal
of
a statue
of
some sort.

erexere

I agree it is eagle-like.  Isnt An Eagle a type of golfing term?

erexere

BP is a subtle artistic genius who has found ways to express deep connections through simple and efficient means….He gives me a stone wall and I show up with a ladder that is much too short.
My literary background isn’t so strong, and my chemistry background keeps surfacing on occasion as if I expect everything might be distilled or synthesized.

Yes, an eagle is 2 under par on a hole.
:app)
You do have a way with words my friend….are you a teacher of some sort?
At least you have a ladder  😀  This is me =====>

erexere

I
agree it is eagle-like.  Isnt An Eagle a type
of
golfing term?

erexere

BP is a subtle artistic genius who has found ways to express deep connections through simple and efficient means….He gives me a stone wall and
I
show up with a ladder that is much too short.
My literary background isn’t so strong, and my chemistry background keeps surfacing on occasion as if
I
expect everything might be distilled or synthesized.

Yes, an eagle is 2 under par on a hole.
:app)
You do have a way with words my friend….are you a teacher
of
some sort?
At least you have a ladder  😀  This is me =====>

Unknown

Unknown:
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AF8575’MASON AND IS ACCESSIBLE FROM THE ROOF OF THE BUILDING.  TO REACH THE
AF8575’STATION FROM HIGHWAY 101 IN NORTH SAN FRANCISCO AT THE INTERSECTION OF
AF8575’VAN NESS AVENUE AND LOMBARD STREET GO NORTH ON VAN NESS AVENUE FOR 0.2
AF8575’MI (0.3 KM) TO THE INTERSECTION OF BAY STREET. TURN LEFT AND GO WEST
AF8575’ON BAY STREET FOR 0.4 MI (0.6 KM) TO THE INTERSECTION OF LAGUNA
AF8575’STREET.  TURN RIGHT AND GO NORTH ON LAGUNA STREET FOR ABOUT 0.15 MI
AF8575′(0.24 KM) TO THE ENTRANCE TO FORT MASON CENTER AND MARINA BOULEVARD ON
AF8575’THE LEFT.  UPON ENTERING FORT MASON CENTER GO EAST AND THEN NORTH FOR
AF8575’ABOUT 0.15 MI (0.24 KM) TO THE WESTERNMOST OF THREE LARGE PIER
AF8575’BUILDINGS.  ENTER THE BUILDING AT THE SOUTHWEST ENTRANCE AND GO
AF8575’UPSTAIRS TO THE SECOND LEVEL.  THEN CONTINUE UP A SET OF STAIRS NEAR
AF8575’THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO A POINT WHERE ACCESS TO THE ROOF
AF8575’IS HAD THROUGH A HATCH.  GO THROUGH THE HATCH AND GO TO THE SOUTHERN
AF8575’MOST POINT ON THE ROOF AT THE APEX OF THE ROOF AND THE STATION.  THE
AF8575’STATION IS AN UNSTAMPED ONE-INCH BRASS DISK SET FLUSH IN THE TOP OF A
AF8575’0.85 FT (0.26 M) BY 0.75 FT (0.23 M) CONCRETE LEDGE ABOUT 3.3 FT (1.0
AF8575’M) BELOW THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE SOUTH WALL OF THE BUILDING.  THE GPS
AF8575’ANTENNA WAS MOUNTED ON THE TOP OF A SPECIALLY DESIGNED AND FABRICATED
AF8575’ANTENNA MOUNT.

wk, I’ve been thinking about these survey markers lately too, wondering if there’s a connection to any of the locations. What started me is that a triangle with a dot in its center, seen in Image 1, is used on survey markers:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/da/MY4112-Station.jpg/220px-MY4112-Station.jpg
It’s a basic enough symbol that it could be coincidental, but pre-internet, wouldn’t a survey marker be a clear way to get someone to a precise location, assuming readers could be reasonably expected to look up the information.
Oh, and here’s an awesome one for you:
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_mark.prl?PidBox=AF8575

Nice one! I am still having fun identifying and reading some of the others. There is one in Charleston which we have already considered and I just looked at another in New Orleans which seems to be very close to Café de Monde. “middle of 21” line in a verse.

Choice

Washington square is next to Transamerica?
You have a better fit with Union square.
The layout of the square was just like the image 1 with trees lined up on each side like numbers on a clock and rounded top.
Also a tunnel crosses underneath like her arms.
And explains the 11 moons. 11th month is November which means 9th.
union square menorah has 9 candles,
Too bad the square is completely excavated and renovated.

A bit of SF history:
Maiden Lane
Red-light district
Adjacent to Union square
222 Stockton
https://tinyurl.com/ybnj7o67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maiden_La … _Francisco
)

catherwood

Did I miss the full report on this find? Did you gather pieces? Plexiglass is probably too generic to compare to other plastic samples, but the pottery could be analyzed. Did you post any photos of these artifacts?

I posted one or two pics. I mailed the pottery to Burnstyle, looks like it’s not the real deal. It FREAKED out my friend who was with me and doesn’t follow the Secret. I said, “If we are in the right place, there should be plexiglass shards and white clay scattered about from the renovation,” then we found exactly that. It was fun.

Rviewer1

I’m strongly convinced that NOTHING in verse 7 is going to be the key. It’s all way too common stuff. Twain wrote about everything, everywhere in SF. I’ve literally closed my eyes and put my finger on a spot in GGP, then found something that relates to Twain in all 8 cardinal directions. The entire park is flanked by
Fulton
street, for goodness sakes.
Edit: Huh, I’ve been responding to posts from weeks ago. sorry!

I like beer too.

Goonie68

Yes actually that is why I think Squares are a part of this puzzle,
Oh and no the Giant Pole…..? I know that Coit was not the Pole that is written in the plaque , but it stands in it’s place. Chicago ? Lincoln not huge? Hmmmm
LOL

I mean, I love everything else, but you’re comparing a 12′ statue of L:incoln with a 210′ tower and saying they both are giant monuments.
I like the “tall pole on plaque=giant pole” except you keep saying “the pole is visible,” when in fact the pole no longer exists.
Is there a flagpole in Wash sq?

Choice

Another place of interest at Coit:
• First of all the round table and the rotating sign (spiral) indicates a
counter
clockwise
turning of the table similar to the flow of the cars around the Columbus statue.
• The gold outline pushed up by dragons nose is representation of Telegraph hill.
• The dragon’s nose itself is a near perfect profile image of the base of the statue in the 70’s and 80’s.
• I don’t think there were any flowers planted in the area and no fence then.
• Inside dragon’s mouth seems to be a flying dove (Colombo in Italian)
• Shadow of the pearl looks similar to the statues mid section.
• Columbus’ protruding shoulder pads are similar to the woman’s.
• The rose stem and thorns form a shovel pointing to dig area.
• The horizontal lines by the shovel show the shape of the round planter layer design.
Yet again because of installation of new base the cask may be lost if it was ever there.

I like your work. I am trying so hard, but I see none of these things. Particularly the lines around the wall and the lines in the image: The lines in the image are different widths, unlike the lines in the wall. Parallel lines are everywhere.
The pearl’s shadow is rounded, the crotch of the statue is almost pointed. Also, would Preiss or JJP really say “ooh, I’ll draw this man’s crotch in here, wow!”

Choice

Another place of interest at Coit:
• First of all the round table and the rotating sign (spiral) indicates a counter clockwise turning of the table similar to the flow of the cars around the Columbus statue.
• The gold outline pushed up by dragons nose is representation of Telegraph hill.
• The dragon’s nose itself is a near perfect profile image of the base of the statue in the 70’s and 80’s.
• I don’t think there were any flowers planted in the area and no fence then.
• Inside dragon’s mouth seems to be a flying dove (Colombo in Italian)
• Shadow of the pearl looks similar to the statues mid section.
• Columbus’ protruding shoulder pads are similar to the woman’s.
• The rose stem and thorns form a shovel pointing to dig area.
• The horizontal lines by the shovel show the shape of the round planter layer design.
Yet again because of installation of new base the cask may be lost if it was ever there.

I like your work. I am trying so hard, but I see none of these things. Particularly the lines around the wall and the lines in the image: The lines in the image are different widths, unlike the lines in the wall. Parallel lines are everywhere.
The pearl’s shadow is rounded, the crotch of the statue is almost pointed. Also, would Preiss or JJP really say “ooh, I’ll draw this man’s crotch in here, wow!”

drunknerds

Also, would Preiss or JJP really say “ooh, I’ll draw this man’s crotch in here, wow!”

Hey, that’s where his family jewels are.

Choice

Hey, that’s where his family jewels are.

Now I know what he meant when he said “giant pole.”

Now you’re getting it

Choice

A bit of SF history:
Maiden
LANE
Red-light district
Adjacent to Union square
222
Stockton
https://tinyurl.com/ybnj7o67
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maiden_La … _Francisco
)

The lady in the image is modeled after Star
MAIDEN
. Note her partially opened mouth.

Goonie68

St. Peter and Paul Church is one of them. Inside the Church is a replica of Our lady of Lourdes, this could be the inspiration behind the image and puts a physical address to the grotto likeness depicted in the image. There are three 6’s in the image, the address of the Church is 666 Filbert st.

Each door to the church has 2 rows of vertical square blocks similar to the sleeves in the painting. The arms in the painting are crossed like the famous painting named “the embrace of St Peter and Paul”. But where to dig?
I’m also torn between Aquatic park and Washington Square. Aquatic park theories makes sense. Could be between the blue skylight blocks, but it would be long gone in the 2009 renovations. No one’s getting permission to dig there anyways, hope it is somewhere else.

drunknerds

I mean, I love everything else, but you’re comparing a 12′ statue of L:incoln with a 210′ tower and saying they both are giant monuments.
I like the “tall pole on plaque=giant pole” except you keep saying “the pole is visible,” when in fact the pole no longer exists.
Is there a flagpole in Wash sq?

Yes there is….12′ could be considered Giant it all depends on how you view the word Giant
blackwood movie plot

DA25550

Each door to the church has 2 rows of vertical square blocks similar to the sleeves in the painting. The arms in the painting are crossed like the famous painting named “the embrace of St Peter and Paul”. But where to dig?
I’m also torn between Aquatic park and Washington Square. Aquatic park theories makes sense. Could be between the blue skylight blocks, but it would be long gone in the 2009 renovations. No one’s getting permission to dig there anyways, hope it is somewhere else.

The angle in the front of the doors has a some very interesting features, curly hair, long nose an arched window behind her blocks on both sides of her……
blackwood movie plot

In my hunt, starting from Dragon’s Gate (posted previously) I came up with at least 3 destination possibilities. One was the Washington Square. I interpreted “sounds” as church bells and shoehorned “3 posts” as 3 church crosses. I could almost feel the pearl in my hand, then came the pearl harbour (see what I did there?!); the Japanese translations (JT).
So back to the drawing board I came to the conclusion that the 2 destinations that can meet the JT requirements are Coit and Ghirardelli. That’s if you are using verse 7.
Here’s the issue with pairing I1, V7: JT suggest to search images for numbers then match a verse with the numbers present. I1 has sooo many numbers all over; V7 only #3 similar to I12.
However I1 has the Roman numerals I,I and II,II on the top 2 rows of her robe. I interpret this as 222 or V5.
I have a solution for paired I1, V5 at Union Square I worked on about half an hour yesterday so it’s very rough. I may post it later on V5 thread.
So Goonie, how do you resolve the JT sounds, 3 posts and pairing issues?

I tried using verse 5 to get to Washington Square with the Ben statue being the only standing member of a forest. Until I found there’s another statue there with 3 people on it.
Goonies, thanks for the picture of the door from the inside. If you go to google street view, there’s more squares on the outside. Seven high and 2 wide on each door.

DA25550

I tried using verse 5 to get to Washington Square with the Ben statue being the only standing member of a forest. Until I found there’s another statue there with 3 people on it.
Goonies, thanks for the picture of the door from the inside. If you go to google street view, there’s more squares on the outside. Seven high and 2 wide on each door.

You’re mixing to separate lines that are meant to be separate.
“Beneath the only standing member”, best read if you put a comma after beneath. So beneath, meaning beneath the statue, the only standing member, or the only column in the park or square.
I mentioned UNION square not Washington Square.
Here’s a rough draft.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=899&start=648

We are almost next door Mr Fox! Willcox Az here.

After dwelling on this image for a while ( and a bit of research ) I really believe that this cask is in Golden Gate Park! Wow! I know you all are blown away by this idea!
Really, I have narrowed it down to 3 areas, but I cannot find any really good pictures of these areas to narrow it down anymore than that. Here are my thoughts ( based on the image, I will add some on the Verse section ) on the 3 areas and why. Forgive me if these areas have already been touched on… I have searched through the posts and could not find anything substantial. P.S. Jimmer, this is for you, since you seem to live in the area — and could post some pics of the areas in question.
I believe that the Dress of the Asian Woman is a map of GG Park. Her Crossed Arms represent “Cross-over Parkway”. The Dragon Loop just below her arms represents “Strawberry Hill Island”.
My first caveat is, based on the Chicago find we know that the author will put many clues to the GENERAL area within the image ( which there are many for GG Park), but narrowing it down can be more difficult.
Theory 1: Based on the Cleveland find, there is an overall Greek theme. The Centaur was not an actual clue, except to lead you to a Grecian Garden. I believe the same goes for Image 1 and the Japanese Theme, ergo the Japanese Tea Garden.
Theory 2: The Rose and The J the rose makes lead to the Rose Garden (located on JFK Parkway). There are hints in the verse that lead me here- see verse section. (also the Asian woman appears to be pointing her finger in this general vicinity on the map)
Theory 3: Shakespeare Garden. This fits alot of the pieces of the puzzle, but not perfectly.
1) The Door at the top of the image, looks alot like the door/window where the bust of Shakespeare is kept.
2) The reverse ‘G’ and ‘h’ at the top of the dress, look to be in the same style as the entrance to the Garden.
3) The Outline in the bottom left of the Image (table?) looks similar to the shape of the sun dial in the park. The image has a pocket watch on top of this ?table? as well (to tell us that it is in fact a sun dial?)
There are a few other clues that I think can be found in the image, but I would love to hear some feedback.

Unknown

Unknown:
Theory 2: The Rose and The J the rose makes lead to the Rose Garden (located on JFK Parkway). There are hints in the verse that lead me here- see verse section. (also the Asian woman appears to be pointing her finger in this general vicinity on the map)

I agree–I have had this same thought a little while ago that the “J” rose does refer to JFK Drive and the rose garden–I think that the recurring conclusion that these casques are in “parks”, that the GGP map on the dress is prominent, and the depiction of the “J” rose,  keep the dig site within GGP.  I agree that the Shakespeare Garden, the Rose Garden and the Japanese Tea Garden may need to be really looked into to see if there is a verse that can be tied into this area.  The only problem I had with the Japanese Tea Garden is I felt the Theme for P1 was Chinese (Cathay) not Japanese, but this may be a minor discrepancy.  Still I believe our dig site to lie within GGP itself.

Nice one MrBackstop, some nice ideas there. I don’t remember the sundial theory being discussed much, though it has been mentioned before. Looking at it again, it’s quite compelling. As for Fay Park…that’s got to be worth a visit…
(Incidentally, the SF Giants are shown on P89.)

I believe another possibility “Of Twain’s attention” could be Hawaii. He traveled there for awhile after SF.
If that is the correct solve to this line, then you would need to take a Giant step toward the Southwest which would mean the spot of the “secret” would be where the rose bushes are just upon the opening of the gate to Fay Park.
Keep in mind, I just found out about this treasure hunt a few days ago so the more I look at this the more ideas keep “narrowing” in my mind.

Maltedfalcon, I thought I posted this already, maybe I was waiting for an answer to a question about taking a photo from the Joan of Arc statue.  It’s not important anymore, I’ve given up on trying the geek-math approach.  You’re right on top of that casque, so the rest is up to you.  I would only suggest that you be willing to look at the possibility that there is a strong visual scale match to a few elements in the picture: fountain, arch, and person standing on casque.  The main problem with recreating the image is the negative plane adjustment.  You have to “see” the fountain without having line of sight, which means taking a walk and measuring your pace from the opposite side where you can see it.  It might seem extremely hard at first when you consider there is a hill in the way, but it’s doable, you’ll just have to do it a couple times to check your measurements.  BP probably walked it twice from both directions and found the same spot with no problem.  I bet he was a boyscout.
Good luck.

animal painter

The artist was told the city for image 10.
Otherwise he would not have created the “mill-walk-key” rebus.

Not necessarily. He might have recognized City Hall.

Spiritr

And one more tip, 2 authorities you DO NOT mess with, Fish and game, and Park Rangers. They are above local police, way~~~~~above.

Do those departments not recognize press passes?

MrSeabass

You need to provide a lot more justification. Nobody is gonna ‘poke the ground’ without a working theory and a permit.

Wrong, after meeting with the park ranger, regardless if you have a working theory or not.
YOU NEED A PERMIT! WITH A REFERENCE NUMBER!
spending a night over in 850 Bryant is NO JOKE.
And one more tip, 2 authorities you DO NOT mess with, Fish and game, and Park Rangers. They are above local police, way~~~~~above.

BINGO

Do those departments not recognize press passes?

Source, worked for the McClatchy Company for 17 years
There are 3 kinds of press passes, law enforcement, Parking and event…. also who issued the pass makes a big difference.
a press pass gets you access. to
an area for purposes of reporting, photography, etc. it is not a get in free card.
it is not a guarantee of anything, it just lets the security/law enforcment/ organization know you are a reporter.
they do not have to allow any access, it’s more of an official “Please” LET ME IN
They used to be a much bigger deal. but now days since basically any blogger can get one, not so much.
The important part is who issued it.
even then now with basically instantaneous communication, the press pass sort of has been replaced by organization pre-arranging access
ie the super bowl- press passes are useless you need to pre-arrange superbowl credentials

Good luck, MF.  We will be interested in your theory whether or not it pans out.

Perfect,
Thanks for your help Goonie68. Are you in SF? Thanks, Adam.
P.S. the reason I ask, I am interested in pictures of the William McKinnon Statue in GGP on John F. Kennedy Drive just east of 8th Street. The internet photo doesn’t show the details of whats on the front or what the statue silouette from behind looks like. Have an excellent day! Adam

I figured out image attachment. Whew.
https://s26.postimg.cc/rr7ug3x3t/bart.png
Does anyone see the BART logo in Image 1?
The reason I ask:
I see AA – Ansul Adams
CB – China Beach
Pine cone in Left hand
so far and want to verify the BART connection. Thanks again, Adam

Spiritr

welcome to the forum Dom,
following what Josh said above, nobody will agree with you either.

Hello Dom,
I’m new to this too. I believe Image 1 goes with verse 5.
Seems there are many SF locations and people hidden in verse 5.
Consider:
Lover’s Lane, One of USA first.
Feb 20, 1902 is Ansel Adam’s Birthday. Born in San Francisco.
Ansels’ 1st Photo featured in a Gallery was taken at China Beach in 1932, subject Golden Gate.
“You’ll see” Arc of lights – directly refers to Golden Gate w/ Bridge as “seen” anytime after 1933
I am working on other clues and leads right now. and hope to have a complete solution before too long.
Thanks, Adam

AlaskaCasqueFinder

I figured out image attachment. Whew.
https://s26.postimg.cc/rr7ug3x3t/bart.png
Does anyone see the BART logo in Image 1?
The reason I ask:
I see AA – Ansul Adams
CB – China Beach
Pine cone in Left hand
so far and want to verify the BART connection. Thanks again, Adam

That wasnt the bart logo at any time during the 1980s

Good Morning Falcon,
I’m glad to see your post.
Was this logo used in the 1980’s. If not, can you post a pic of what their logo was back then. Thanks, Adam
Have an excellent day!
Adam
https://s26.postimg.cc/bftyeoqs9/new_bart.png

AlaskaCasqueFinder

Good Morning Falcon,
I’m glad to see your post.
Was this logo used in the 1980’s. If not, can you post a pic of what their logo was back then. Thanks, Adam
Have an excellent day!
Adam
https://s26.postimg.cc/bftyeoqs9/new_bart.png

Yes this is the logo back in 1980

Hi all… I’m mostly a lurker on this board and I’m nowhere near SF. But I had a thought that I haven’t seen posted here. Does anyone know if there is a big statue of someone Polish in SF (giant Pole)?
Matt

The idea has been raised before (dan39decoy, last year), but there were no takers. I really like the idea, because it doesn’t involve a straightforward interpretation of “pole.”

Would this be consider a stone wall’s door?

Unknown

Unknown:
What do you mean by obstruct?

“Obstruct” may be too strong a word Matt, but whether you agree with me or not ultimately depends on your interpretation of statement Preiss made such as:
-10 by 13 refers to feet
-there are no clues contained in the rest of the book
-Andy and Brian got all the clues
-it would not be a waste of time to dig there
IMO, all those statements are actually detrimental to solving the puzzle. I agree that he was under no obligation to “help”, but if that was really his intention, it would have been much simpler to just not respond to the phone calls and emails that he received, and to be much more reserved when he spoke with Andy and Brian.

Euhirudinea

“Obstruct” may be too strong a word Matt, but whether you agree with me or not ultimately depends on your interpretation of statement Preiss made such as:
-10 by 13 refers to feet
-there are no clues contained in the rest of the book
-Andy and Brian got all the clues
-it would not be a waste of time to dig there
IMO, all those statements are actually detrimental to solving the puzzle. I agree that he was under no obligation to “help”, but if that was really his intention, it would have been much simpler to just not respond to the phone calls and emails that he received, and to be much more reserved when he spoke with Andy and Brian.

actually looking at it that way
you are correct

Unknown

Unknown:
you are correct

What I am is consistent. It remains to be seen whether I am correct.

Goonie68

Would this be consider a stone wall’s door?

dont think so. but thats me.

Here goes my new and improved solve for image 1
At stone walls door the air smells sweet = the stone wall entrance to the stone walled fragrance garden at GGP
Not far away high posts are three = Sutro tower, you can see it from the entrance to the fragrance garden.
Education and justice for all to see = well you have a library in the botanical garden as well as a museum near by and most of the main streets are named after politicians like JFK.
Sounds from the sky near ace is high = between the music concourse and 11th ave. Is the general location of the casque
Running north but first across = straight north of the entrance to the fragrance garden lines you up with 11th ave. The first across is having to go across since you can’t go over the buildings so you need to bypass them
In jewels direction = north
Is an object of Twain’s attention = on the north side of JFK dr. You see the fenced in giant sequoia
Giant pole = the sequoia
Giant step = just that about 4 feet
So the casque is probably on the north side of the tree .This could be the clincher in the image 1 and would have to be investigated by someone who lives close by .
Take a close look at the fence that surrounds the tree . There is a top row of fence rails and a single row below that so what you have is two rows of squares essentially just like the two rows on each side in the image that the fingers point to . The thing is that the fingers are not pointing to the squares they are pointing to the areas in between the squares which represents the posts! .So you would have to count the posts from the east side and from the west side ( can’t be done on google earth), to determine the location more accurately. So you have to count them the right way . 5 posts going south from the north end on the west side and 4 posts going south from the north east corner and see where they intersect with the giant step
Possibly when you get a view of the north side of the tree you might see a dark shape resembling to one made between the wrists.
It would be nice if some one could confirm this. Maybe post a photo or two

Goonie68

Would this be consider a stone wall’s door?

No, rule number 1, no grave yard, no cemetery , so, NO.

Spiritr

No, rule number 1, no grave yard, no cemetery , so, NO.

I didn’t say this was the dig spot or the location, just asking opinion that’s all, I am well aware of NO CEMETERY to dig in.