catherwood

That page literally begins with “Privately owned Redwood Park…” which I think automatically rules it out.

Interesting. I never imagined that the Transamerica Pyramid wasn’t a city project, but yep it was built by a life insurance company.

Goonie68

Where in SF would there be a Pyramid…next to a square……hhhhmmmm??????? Anyone????

Washington square is next to Transamerica?
You have a better fit with Union square.
The layout of the square was just like the image 1 with trees lined up on each side like numbers on a clock and rounded top.
Also a tunnel crosses underneath like her arms.
And explains the 11 moons. 11th month is November which means 9th.
union square menorah has 9 candles,
Too bad the square is completely excavated and renovated.

Choice

Looking at the architectural drawings it’s just a trailer with a vent stack on top. I don’t see any significance to the hunt.

Yes, I know that now after I looked into it. But wanted to rule it out as it was potentially there in the early 80”s. Who knows it could have had some kind of image match on the exterior? But thought I’d share in case anyone had any recollection to it.

burnstyle

Call the city permit office and ask for construction site plans and architectural drawings.
They are public record.

Mmm, think I will just as a matter of throughly rulling it in or out as part of the aquatic park area.
Cheers

Choice

Washington square is next to Transamerica?
You have a better fit with Union square.
The layout of the square was just like the image 1 with trees lined up on each side like numbers on a clock and rounded top.
Also a tunnel crosses underneath like her arms.

No not next too, From the square you get a good look at the Pyramid, Columbus AVE connects the Square to the Pyramid.

Hey, I’d never heard of monkey puzzle trees so that was cool.
Now if there was a mention of “barrel of monkeys” in the verse or image then I’d be all over it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jJWMsEyAgE

Choice

Hey, I’d never heard of monkey puzzle trees so that was cool.

I used to be a tree surgeon and that’s the common name for. If you look at the leaves they are extremely hard and sharp as well as pointing in the same direction. This always made me laugh, Someone once told me that monkeys climb up them but couldn’t get back down due to the sharp leaves pointing upwards, the monkey would then be puzzled on how to get down. A little bit like this treasure hunt really

drunknerds

i enjoy that there is apparently a site on the Internet that felt the need to provide a definition of “hole-in-one” in golf. We need to get that information out there.

Yes, a hole in one is called an ace and the triangle it the symbol used on the scorecard. The square is also a symbol on a golf scorecard. This may seem unimportant at this point to some, but I believe the golf course is on the path to an area I want to dig.
The golf course photo I altered I posted the other day. The moons are the greens.

I like your work, but I feel like Coit tower can’t be the pole. It’s visible from a ton of places, the verse seems to say “take a step away and dig,” and neither Chicago nor Cleveland’s verses referred to any huge monuments.
Edit: oh, also it’s not a pole.
Also I realize a square is on either side of the Gh. Am I the last person to notice this?

Do we need to buy a round to get on the green?

Choice

Do we need to buy a round to get on the green?

Seriously, I walked all over that course a few weeks ago. I only saw three people. The original club house burned down.

IMO or theory puts the Casque area at Washington Square, Casque should be in a corner of the park. Washington Square has many connections to the image (IMO) St. Peter and Paul Church is one of them. Inside the Church is a replica of Our lady of Lourdes, this could be the inspiration behind the image and puts a physical address to the grotto likeness depicted in the image. There are three 6’s in the image, the address of the Church is 666 Filbert st. (Crazy right 666 for a church) inside the church you have a grotto (which we see in the image) A clock on the wall that resembles the one in the image, on the outside of the church you have a bird of prey, which resembles the bird in the 6 in the middle of the dragon. The church is Roman Catholic, the reason why the numbers showing us the long/lat are roman numerals, Across in the park is a geo survey marker placed in the late 18oo’s that gives the Lat/Long of San Francisco.
There seems to be a similar pattern with Chicago, if the casque is located at Washington Square. Chicago Park Grant President, SF park Washington President, both with in a geometric shape to describe an area, Circle (or loop) Chicago, SF Square.

Are you digging the sand boxes or near trees? Certainly not the green. Here’s your image. Hope it’s OK.

drunknerds

I like your work, but I feel like Coit tower can’t be the pole. It’s visible from a ton of places, the verse seems to say “take a step away and dig,” and neither Chicago nor Cleveland’s verses referred to any huge monuments.
Edit: oh, also it’s not a pole.
Also I realize a square is on either side of the Gh. Am I the last person to notice this?

Yes actually that is why I think Squares are a part of this puzzle,
Oh and no the Giant Pole…..? I know that Coit was not the Pole that is written in the plaque , but it stands in it’s place. Chicago ? Lincoln not huge? Hmmmm
LOL

My thought on the moons is that they are like ball pins you use on a board to mark a spot on a map or a waypoint in this case.

Don’t forget the Benjamin Franklin statue and the time capsule in the base of it (1979-2079). Clock on the table with twilight zone spiral for time travel to past?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU
By Date:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJj9nvk0AgY

Choice

My thought on the moons is that they are like ball pins you use on a board to mark a spot on a map or a waypoint in this case.

Choice,
Thanks for posting my blue moon/greens. I can’t seem to get images to post directly to the page. I use the link. I guess my idea of the moons being the greens are as good as any other of the many ideas out there.
Why are you still awake? I don’t think the moons are where to dig. I just think they are showing the way. I am on a roll. I hope to get down the road soon.

It’s going to be wet and muddy for the foreseeable future. But when you do post some pics.
To post image to the board click the tab on top of the window where you’re typing and paste your image link right in the middle.
Then on the bottom of the window click [Preview] button to make sure it works.

Thanks Choice, Let me see if this works.
https://imgur.com/7LEsxbP
In case it doesn’t work.
AND:
The word Gate on this rock caught my attention. I looked up Gate in
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/gate
and guess what? Gate = Door
Need I say more?

Choice

Don’t forget the Benjamin Franklin statue and the time capsule in the base of it (1979-2079). Clock on the table with twilight zone spiral for time travel to past?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU
By Date:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJj9nvk0AgY

I like that…
Tho I have a few rebus for the clock, possibly
Mountain or Rock = hard plus clock = Hard time = Jail or
Clock =Time and table = Timetable , Bus stop, Cable car stop a transportation route?

Rose with two thorns pointing downward towards spiral.
Now imagine the rose is the top of a key and the arrows, the key stem goes into the spiral or spring.
It’s like winding an alarm clock and setting it for 100 years?
That big “6” thing or top of the table itself could be a big C, roman for century, 100.

Choice

Rose with two thorns pointing downward towards spiral.
Now imagine the rose is the top of a key and the arrows, the key stem goes into the spiral or spring.
It’s like winding an alarm clock and setting it for 100 years?
That big “6” thing or top of the table itself could be a big C, roman for century, 100.

Could be, and who is on a 100 dalha BILL….lol

Goldengate

Awesome Goonie — I always look forward to checking out our smart, well put together walkthroughs!

Thanks GG! Again thanks for the Japanese hints!

There have been some great posts today. I see the hints take each person to their favorite area they believe leads to where to dig.

TexWriter

I have decided to go ahead and post what I think is a viable solution for the San Francisco puzzle. I am not going to be able to get out there any time soon so I am hoping maltedfalcon or someone else close will have a chance to check out my theory.

Very interesting!
Although the National AIDS Memorial was conceived in 1988 (way after the the fact) and was renovated in September 1991. That would probably be bad as they tend to move and dig up stuff, who knows what was there before. Also, 3rd and 4th ave are not really near HW 1. The hints in the two found treasures all seem to have locations that are really close together, but this SF one has people all over GG park…

TexWriter

That brings me to my second item, her hands. I believe she is pointing out streets. In particular, because of the orientation of the park in the picture, 3rd and 4th streets. Across Fulton Street between 3rd and 4th street there is a single Redwood. Could this be the tree? I had planned on going and checking that out by using the painting and bark patterns but maybe someone that lives in the area can check it out and save me the drive from Houston. If you connect 3rd and 4th street on the north side of the park to 3rd and 4th streets on the south side of the park, maybe the tree is between those two lines. The National Aids Memorial Grove of redwoods is located within these lines. I did not see any redwoods bordering Lincoln Way using Google between 3rd and 4th streets but that area should not be overlooked if nothing turns up in the other areas. When looking at the trees on Google you have to differentiate between the redwoods and the giant sycamores that have a much smoother bark. The redwoods generally have flat tops.
So there you have my idea on the GGP solution and determining the exact location using references in the painting and poem. Good luck to all.

I explored the area this morning. Most of the space between 3rd and 4th ave is heavy foliage. There are not that many place one can get to easily. I started on Fulton and walked all the way through to the AIDs memorial. Tomorrow I will start on the Lincoln side of the park and look around that half. I’m thinking this is not the place. The other clues in the painting seem to be clustered farther away.

I wonder if this is our dragon hiding on the carousel – there is an amazing amount of imagery at the carousel. –
https://foursquare.com/v/golden-gate-pa … de89965b3a
https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/au_attr/2190.jpg

MERLIN

I wonder if this is our dragon hiding on the carousel – there is an amazing amount of imagery at the carousel. –
https://foursquare.com/v/golden-gate-pa … de89965b3a
https://www.gpsmycity.com/img/au_attr/2190.jpg

The carousel broke down in ’77….it was sent to Ruby Newman Studios for restoration….it was put back and reopened in ’84.
Here’s her site, with pictures of her hand painting one of the mounts in ’79…..many of the pictures there copyright, ’80 to ’85.
http://www.rubynewman.com/main/carousel.html
http://www.rubynewman.com/pages/DA_Carousel_History.htm
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https://goldengatepark.com/golden-gate-park-carousel.html
There’s a good picture of the restored sea dragon, here:
http://www.rubynewman.com/pages/DA_Carousel_Menagerie.html

Wow it was originally powered by steam! Lots of good info – thanks EZ

MERLIN

Wow it was originally powered by steam! Lots of good info – thanks EZ

Yup, yup.
I think Goonies also posted that link to the studio, sometime in March, last year….it’s a phenomenal carousel.

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Back to Verse 6. I am going to breakdown verse 6 and image 1 from the beginning of the verse to the end of the verse. However I’m not using the verse in a linear fashion for my attempt at a solve. However I am using the methodology used in Chicago and Cleveland to a point. When I look at image 1, I get smacked in the face with the archetype that the “Rock” has become. I see a barred window on a rock. Therefore Alcatraz is my city confirmer not GGP. Any tourist will be more familiar with the rock (Alcatraz) than GGP IMO. Although I can see the merit of either being the city confirmer. What I have tried to bring together is food for thought and hopefully a new perspective at verse 6 and image 1. I have used work that has been done before me as I stand on the shoulders of giants. I have also added in my own work. Any ideas and input on this work would be graciously received. I am using movements to keep it partially linear to follow and they are coming from both verse and Image1.Which may be my diversion from the 2 previously solved cities methods. Although at this point I have not decided yet on how I’m going to put together the pieces that I have which I believe can get me down to a 2 foot area and the final location.
Hyde Street Pier and Alcatraz
So we have the first lines of the verse:
:Of all the romance retold
Men of tales and tunes
Cruel and bold
Seen here
By eyes of old”
This can be attributed to the songs and themes of the 1849ers diggers. It can also be traced to Robert Louis Stevenson in his book “Treasure Island”. Quote from the book below.
“And all the old romance, retold” and “If sailor tales to sailor tunes” This almost comes out word for word from the book.
RLS has a plaque on Bush Street where he lived and one in Ports Mouth Square:
After speed reading “Treasure Island” there are so many parallels for us would be treasure hunters. Hopefully we will be more civil that Long John Silver.
Then we have:
“Stand and listen to the birds”
“Hear the cool, clear song of water”
If Alcatraz is my city Confirmer I would be at the Hyde Street pier (and the above verses would likely come into play) heading for the Hyde st Powell street cable car which leaves at yes, 6 AM, and that Hyde is a character in RLS’s book. “Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde”. I would then go to Clay st which is an outlet for Portsmouth Square in China Town. I move down to Clay Street and run into Lafayette Square that has in interesting looking Fountain that resembles the table in image 1.
I have seen these Pics below posted on another forum and would make things interesting if you were into the cable car theme with the cable car turn around as the table top. Then you would have “the embedded in sand” hint at where the treasure is with the cable care in literally being sand. I have no idea if it is still there as that does not play into my attempt at a solve. It would have been a good idea though.
As I’m cruising down Clay’s Street I suddenly “Harken to the words” “Freedom at the birth of a century Or May 1913”
This is a shout out to the “Emancipation Proclamation”. “Or May 1913” was the 50th Anniversary of the “Emancipation Proclamation” as celebrated at the exposition of 1913. “Harken to the words” was a nod to James Weldon Johnson’s poem that was written for the occasion:
On the Fiftieth Anniversary of the Signing of the Emancipation Proclamation.
O brothers mine, to-day we stand
Where half a century sweeps our ken,
Since God, through Lincoln’s ready hand,
Struck off our bonds and made us men.
Just fifty years–a winter’s day–
As runs the history of a race;
Yet, as we look back o’er the way,
How distant seems our starting place!
You can read the rest of the poem at your leisure.
Clay Street was named after Henry Clay who was an esteemed politician that was both speaker of the house and a senator from Kentucky as well as the Secretary of State. He was the cousin of Cassius Marcellus Clay who assisted Abraham Lincoln with the “Emancipation Proclamation”. I’m sure that it is known that his family home was named “White Hall” in Kentucky and he was known as the “Lion of White Hall”. As interesting as this is it does not come into play with my “White House” and last time I checked I did not see any palms.
Then we have “Edwin and Edwina named after him” That would be Edwin being named after Edwin Forrest. Edwin”s daughter was named Edwina. He was a famous Shakespearean actor. In a bit of historical irony it was Edwin Booth who saved Abraham Lincoln sons life. “Mr. Booth was so popular in San Francisco, that The San Francisco News Letter, a popular publication in the 19th century, featured a reproduction of a lithograph of him, by none other than the famous San Francisco lithographers Britton, Rey & Co. Printed for its readers as a free illustration, it notes on the bottom – “Gratis with “News Letter” Sept. 9th 1876″.
https://www.californiapioneers.org/shakespeare-in-19th-century-san-francisco/
Below is the Plaque found on 444 Bush Street in San Francisco where the California Theater was located with Edwin Booth being listed.
Continuing down Clay Street I come to a dead end on Arguello Blvd. This is where I come to the building structure that is located in image 1 up in the top left hand corner, the Temple Emanu-El. It sits at Lake St and Arguello.
On top of the dome there is a coral blue circle like the Gem. I don’t think BP would have been able to see it though. Its good to take a look at the building from different angles. It does have a the same San Fancisco style pearl inside under the dome. Also the main focus of the Jewish Congregation is for social justice for the immigrants and refugees.
So I go left heading down Arguello to get to my next way points. I follow Arguello Blvd right into GGP on Conservatory Drive to the Conservatory of Flowers.
The next part of the verse is:
“Or on the eighth a scene
Where law defended”
This has to do with Shakespeare. William Shakespeare’s themes in many of his works are about the law, legal issues and Justice. You can look at this in two ways. The Law is defended in the Court’s. For this we have the Tennis Court Complex across the street.
Although I would attribute this part of the Verse to Shakespeare’s Macbeth Act 5 Scene 8, where the Law and Order are restored to Scotland.
Then the next part of the verse goes “Between two arms extended”. This would be the Garfield Monument back across the street from the Tennis Courts.
Then we have “Below the bar that binds”. This again has to do with the Law. It means passing the bar exam to become Lawyer.
Now we have come full circle. We have the verses “Beside the long palm’s shadow” and “White house close at hand”
And finally:
“Embedded in the sand”
“Waits the Fair remuneration”
This is where the treasure casque will be found. Stay tuned.
For me this has not been so much of a treasure hunt as it has been a history hunt. I know that this attempt at a San Francisco(image 1) solve for verse 6 will not be popular with a lot of Charleston people. Not to mention the Verse 7 people for Image 1. If for lack of anything else, I hope that some of this information will be helpful in some way.

JoshCornell

completed this motherfucker f**k yes…now have exact location and anxiety eases away….ahhhhh
*does a little dance*

For reals!?! you have it?? Can we see what it looks like? Where was it?

Dig it up oh Great Falcon of Maltedland!

Thanks for the input. I dont feel too compelled to figure this puzzle out these days. I think its thematically built around the idea of a doorway. If we findthe correct door, and its likely a giant door, then the spot directly in front would be considered a giant [door] step.

erexere

I’ve been working verse7 for SF. When I get to the line about a “giant step” I wonder if it has something to do with the Baseball team. Baseball steps might be those square bases that players step on, the five sided home plate or up on the pictures mound?

Well it’s 90 feet between bases. Perhaps “a Giant step” is a roundabout way of saying you need to walk 90 feet.

My apologies for taking so long, I was kind of ill the last few days or so. My adventure digging at the beach by the Aquatic Park was… interesting and one my daughters will surely remember for years.
The first day I was in San Francisco I went up to front desk of the museum that had jurisdiction over the park and asked if it would be ok to go out to the beach and dig a hole, describing that I wanted to dig down about 3-3.5 feet right in front of the steps. The guy at the desk and another lady kind of pondered it and then indicated that it would be ok since its a public beach. I jotted his name down and thanked him.
The next day my family and I headed down to the beach and I proceeded to dig, drawing the occasional interest of passers by. All went well for awhile, with me getting to the point that I had a hole about 3.5 feet deep (at which point I was hitting hard rocks)  and around 3.5 feet around. At this point a park policeman stopped me and asked what was going on. I explained and indicated that I had inquired yesterday at the museum’s front desk and was told that it would be ok. He indictated that he hadn’t been informed and had to do some checking.
To make a long story short, he then proceeded to do a bunch of checking and it turns out that the guy who told me it was ok didn’t have the authority to give me permission to dig. Fortunately I had jotted the guys name down, which helped. So, because I did attempt to go through the proper channels and thought I had an ok from someone in the organization, he didn’t give me a ticket, but it ended my digging. I had to fill everything in and give up.
The officer was quite nice towards the end and even gave me the name of the proper channel to go through, however as my trip was drawing to a close, I didn’t have time to follow up on it.
Several onlookers were quite disappointed that my digging was ended too. One guy even started chanting ‘let him dig’ and a lady was arguing with the police officer (which wasn’t helping things).
So as to my rationale:
I was digging, incidentally, down at the base of a large step by one of the lamp poles by the beach at the Aquatic Park.
From the picture: Gh isn’t a general SF landmark, its directly visible from the spot I was digging. FURTHERMORE, there is a tree that blocks out all of the letters, except the Gh (I took a picture, but am at work, so I’ll have to post it up later). The moons are the balls for the light poles down by the water. The table leg is the ironwork below the balls on the light poles (this is kind of debatable, but look at the outline, I think its pretty close). One of the symbols around the border of the tabard is a profile of one of the speaker towers in the park. The tower at the top is Coit Tower, a well-known SF landmark. There might be more I’m forgetting, but I’m going off of memory here.
From verse 7:
At stone wall’s door
The air smells sweet
Not far away
– Ghiradelli’s Chocolates was originally located at Jackson Square. And if you’ve ever been in the place it does indeed smell quite sweet.
High posts are three
– There is a three-masted sailing ship in the harbor of the Aquatic Park
Education and Justice
For all to see
– The Maritime Museum directly adjacent to the Aquatic Park and Alcatraz out in the harbor
Sounds from the sky
– There are two elevated speaker towers for people to address crowds from atop of.
Near ace is high
Running north, but first across
– The Golden Gate Bridge, which is also visible from parts of the Park
In jewel’s direction
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
– In addition to the sailing ship, there is a paddlewheel steamship out in the harbor as well.
Giant pole
Giant step
To the place
The casque is kept
– I worked under the assumption that the pole was one of the light poles down near the beach as they seemed to match the table leg pretty well. In addition a few of them were adjacent to some large steps.
So, I worked from the lightpole by the steps down to the beach where one could see Alcatraz, the Golden Gate, the Maritime Museum, one of the Speaker Towers, the three-masted sailing ship, the paddle wheeler, and the Ghiradelli’s sign (which as I mentioned had a tree which obstructed all but the Gh). One of the poles met all of the criteria best.
And thus ends my expedition. Here’s hoping that someone else can pick things up where I left off and get (the proper) permission to dig some more.
I’ll try to remember to post up some pictures when I’m home.
And thanks to Jimerson for doing some preliminary looking for me.

My apologies for taking so long, I was kind of ill the last few days or so. My adventure digging at the beach by the Aquatic Park was… interesting and one my daughters will surely remember for years.
The first day I was in San Francisco I went up to front desk of the museum that had jurisdiction over the park and asked if it would be ok to go out to the beach and dig a hole, describing that I wanted to dig down about 3-3.5 feet right in front of the steps. The guy at the desk and another lady kind of pondered it and then indicated that it would be ok since its a public beach. I jotted his name down and thanked him.
The next day my family and I headed down to the beach and I proceeded to dig, drawing the occasional interest of passers by. All went well for awhile, with me getting to the point that I had a hole about 3.5 feet deep (at which point I was hitting hard rocks)  and around 3.5 feet around. At this point a park policeman stopped me and asked what was going on. I explained and indicated that I had inquired yesterday at the museum’s front desk and was told that it would be ok. He indictated that he hadn’t been informed and had to do some checking.
To make a long story short, he then proceeded to do a bunch of checking and it turns out that the guy who told me it was ok didn’t have the authority to give me permission to dig. Fortunately I had jotted the guys name down, which helped. So, because I did attempt to go through the proper channels and thought I had an ok from someone in the organization, he didn’t give me a ticket, but it ended my digging. I had to fill everything in and give up.
The officer was quite nice towards the end and even gave me the name of the proper channel to go through, however as my trip was drawing to a close, I didn’t have time to follow up on it.
Several onlookers were quite disappointed that my digging was ended too. One guy even started chanting ‘let him dig’ and a lady was arguing with the police officer (which wasn’t helping things).
So as to my rationale:
I was digging, incidentally, down at the base of a large step by one of the lamp poles by the beach at the Aquatic Park.
From the picture: Gh isn’t a general SF landmark, its directly visible from the spot I was digging. FURTHERMORE, there is a tree that blocks out all of the letters, except the Gh (I took a picture, but am at work, so I’ll have to post it up later). The moons are the balls for the light poles down by the water. The table leg is the ironwork below the balls on the light poles (this is kind of debatable, but look at the outline, I think its pretty close). One of the symbols around the border of the tabard is a profile of one of the speaker towers in the park. The tower at the top is Coit Tower, a well-known SF landmark. There might be more I’m forgetting, but I’m going off of memory here.
From verse 7:
At stone wall’s door
The air smells sweet
Not far away
– Ghiradelli’s Chocolates was originally located at Jackson Square. And if you’ve ever been in the place it does indeed smell quite sweet.
High posts are three
– There is a three-masted sailing ship in the harbor of the Aquatic Park
Education and Justice
For all to see
– The Maritime Museum directly adjacent to the Aquatic Park and Alcatraz out in the harbor
Sounds from the sky
– There are two elevated speaker towers for people to address crowds from atop of.
Near ace is high
Running
north, but first across
– The Golden Gate Bridge, which is also visible from parts of the Park
In jewel’s direction
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
– In addition to the sailing ship, there is a paddlewheel steamship out in the harbor as well.
Giant pole
Giant step
To the place
The casque is kept
– I worked under the assumption that the pole was one of the light poles down near the beach as they seemed to match the table leg pretty well. In addition a few of them were adjacent to some large steps.
So, I worked from the lightpole by the steps down to the beach where one could see Alcatraz, the Golden Gate, the Maritime Museum, one of the Speaker Towers, the three-masted sailing ship, the paddle wheeler, and the Ghiradelli’s sign (which as I mentioned had a tree which obstructed all but the Gh). One of the poles met all of the criteria best.
And thus ends my expedition. Here’s hoping that someone else can pick things up where I left off and get (the proper) permission to dig some more.
I’ll try to remember to post up some pictures when I’m home.
And thanks to Jimerson for doing some preliminary looking for me.

Thanks for relaying your events.
Your logic is good, sorry to see your exploration not
fully sated.

I agree, that’s sound reasoning. I look forward to seeing your pictures.

Magesmiley

I was digging, incidentally, down at the base of a large step by one of the lamp poles by the beach at the Aquatic Park.
Which one?
From the picture: Gh isn’t a general SF landmark, its directly visible from the spot I was digging. FURTHERMORE, there is a tree that blocks out all of the letters, except the Gh (I took a picture, but am at work, so I’ll have to post it up later). The moons are the balls for the light poles down by the water. The table leg is the ironwork below the balls on the light poles (this is kind of debatable, but look at the outline, I think its pretty close). One of the symbols around the border of the tabard is a profile of one of the speaker towers in the park. The tower at the top is Coit Tower, a well-known SF landmark. There might be more I’m forgetting, but I’m going off of memory here.
Cant wait to see the picture
From verse 7:
At stone wall’s door
In your scenario, what is the Stone Walls door?
The air smells sweet “
Cant argue with this, you can get diabetes standing near Ghiradelli’s
Not far away
– Ghiradelli’s Chocolates was originally located at Jackson Square. And if you’ve ever been in the place it does indeed smell quite sweet.
High posts are three
– There is a three-masted sailing ship in the harbor of the Aquatic Park
Was that ship here in 1988?  I thought it was farther down Fisherman’s wharf, but I could be wrong.
Education and Justice
For all to see
– The Maritime Museum directly adjacent to the Aquatic Park and Alcatraz out in the harbor
Sounds from the sky
– There are two elevated speaker towers for people to address crowds from atop of.
Those are speakers? I always wondered!
Near ace is high
Running north, but first across
– The Golden Gate Bridge, which is also visible from parts of the Park
In jewel’s direction
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
– In addition to the sailing ship, there is a paddlewheel steamship out in the harbor as well.
But it’s a side wheel tug, not the kind associated with Mark Twain
Giant pole (
The light poles are’nt Giant, as light poles go their not very big, slender would be a good desription)
Giant step
Im looking for a Giant Step , I see lots of steps but not a giant step.
To the place
The casque is kept
So, I worked from the lightpole by the steps down to the beach where one could see Alcatraz, the Golden Gate, the Maritime Museum, one of the Speaker Towers, the three-masted sailing ship, the paddle wheeler, and the Ghiradelli’s sign (which as I mentioned had a tree which obstructed all but the Gh). One of the poles met all of the criteria best.
Mind you , on occasion they move the ships around. Before the Berkely arrived ,the balclutha and the sidewheel tug were on the other side of the pier.
This does have possibilities, but, and here is the bad news, the sand in this area, moves around, depending on the weather and storms, It can be higher lower or at some point even gone,
I remember them bringing sand in once, but that could pre-date the book. If it was buried in the sand at the base of the steps, it could be anywhere.

Magesmiley

I was digging, incidentally, down at the base of a large step by one of the lamp poles by the beach at the Aquatic Park.
Which one?
From the picture: Gh isn’t a general SF landmark, its directly visible from the spot I was digging. FURTHERMORE, there is a tree that blocks out all of the letters, except the Gh (I took a picture, but am at work, so I’ll have to post it up later). The moons are the balls for the light poles down by the water. The table leg is the ironwork below the balls on the light poles (this is kind of debatable, but look at the outline, I think its pretty close). One of the symbols around the border of the tabard is a profile of one of the speaker towers in the park. The tower at the top is Coit Tower, a well-known SF landmark. There might be more I’m forgetting, but I’m going off of memory here.
Cant wait to see the picture
From verse 7:
At stone wall’s door
In your scenario, what is the Stone Walls door?
The air smells sweet “
Cant argue with this, you can get diabetes standing near Ghiradelli’s
Not far away
– Ghiradelli’s Chocolates was originally located at Jackson Square. And if you’ve ever been in the place it does indeed smell quite sweet.
High posts are three
– There is a three-masted sailing ship in the harbor of the Aquatic Park
Was that ship here in 1988?  I thought it was farther down Fisherman’s wharf, but I could be wrong.
Education and Justice
For all to see
– The Maritime Museum directly adjacent to the Aquatic Park and Alcatraz out in the harbor
Sounds from the sky
– There are two elevated speaker towers for people to address crowds from atop of.
Those are speakers? I always wondered!
Near ace is high
Running
north, but first across
– The Golden Gate Bridge, which is also visible from parts of the Park
In jewel’s direction
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
– In addition to the sailing ship, there is a paddlewheel steamship out in the harbor as well.
But it’s a side wheel tug, not the kind associated with Mark Twain
Giant pole (
The light poles are’nt Giant, as light poles go their not very big, slender would be a good desription)
Giant step
Im looking for a Giant Step , I see lots of steps but not a giant step.
To the place
The casque is kept
So, I worked from the lightpole by the steps down to the beach where one could see Alcatraz, the Golden Gate, the Maritime Museum, one of the Speaker Towers, the three-masted sailing ship, the paddle wheeler, and the Ghiradelli’s sign (which as I mentioned had a tree which obstructed all but the Gh). One of the poles met all of the criteria best.
Mind you , on occasion they move the ships around. Before the Berkely arrived ,the balclutha and the sidewheel tug were on the other side of the pier.
This does have possibilities, but, and here is the bad news, the sand in this area, moves around, depending on the weather and storms, It can be higher lower or at some point even gone,
I remember them bringing sand in once, but that could pre-date the book. If it was buried in the sand at the base of the steps, it could be anywhere.

not trying to knock your theory,
Actually I think the education & Justice fit perfectly
The speakers thing is good too.
Highway 1 and GG Bridge is nearby
A while back someone thought the clock face matched a clock on one of the ships out on the  pier.
The Gh is good,
Your twain pull is a stretch
Im hoping you can re-work this and find a site in the grass or dirt.
I think if he meant steps he would have said step.
and Giant Pole, tends to me to mean in comparison to another pole.
but all the other light poles are the same size.

maltedfalcon

I was digging, incidentally, down at the base of a large step by one of the lamp poles by the beach at the Aquatic Park.
Which one?

This one…
http://www.cobbcrew.org/AquaticPark/Aqu … mage4.html
Take a “giant” step down from the lamppost to the sand.

Any thoughts on why the image is mirrored??
The ‘G’ and the ‘h’ being seen facing the wrong way?

Yes that would definitely fit giant step,

Unknown

Unknown:
In 1954 the San Francisco Maritime Museum purchased Pacific Queen for $25,000. Assisted by donations of cash, materials and labor from the local community, the Museum restored the vessel and returned her original name. The ship was transferred to the National Park Service in 1978, and Balclutha was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1985.

Unknown

Unknown:
The vessel was donated to the National Park Service in 1979. She is now berthed at Hyde Street Pier.

Still at work here, but quickly…
Stonewall’s Door I interpreted to be a reference to Stonewall Jackson and going with the next couple of lines, Ghiradelli’s original location in Jackson Square seemed a reasonable match.
According to the website:
So the ship was there.
For the paddle wheel steamship, I was looking at the Eppleton Hall (which admitedly is a tug, but looking at it you think paddlewheel steamship, and not tug). Also from the website:
I originally came across the towers being referenced as speaker towers on a website. Doing a bit of research, they were indeed originally (and still) used for speaking from atop of to address crowds.They’re actually just metal towers with a platform at the top.
As far as the giant pole… I took that to be artistic license to make it fit with the other line as we definitely have a giant step here. It is still a good sized pole regardless.
Now, I didn’t know that they moved the ships around. If the Eppleton Hall moved significantly in the time since the book was written, it could indeed alter the direction. I dug at the base of the steps in the direction of the Eppleton Hall from the lamp post. I think that the lamp post is probably the right one to start from though.
As far as the sand shifting, that is definitely possible. One thing I was able to tell going downward was that you could see very distinct layers of the sand – there were black layers every so often. that were fairly consistent around the sides of my hole. I doubt that they’d been disturbed in a long time. One big question is how deep – if it was 3 feet down, I doubt that the sand has shifted that much, although it could have. There is a layer of rocks at about 3.5 feet under that beach too, which I think would help stabilize things somewhat.
I am probably not going to be back in the SF area for a good long while (I live near Seattle), so the best I can offer is speculation at this point.
And I don’t have any idea on why the Gh is mirrored, unless its intended to disguise the letters somewhat.

jimerson

This one…
http://www.cobbcrew.org/AquaticPark/Aqu … mage4.html
Take a “giant” step down from the lamppost to the sand.

Actually the one I was digging from was the 4th or 5th from the left in this picture:
http://www.cobbcrew.org/AquaticPark/AquaticPark-Pages/Image3.html
I’m not 100% sure which due to the angle of the shot.
There are steps down to the beach at that point. It also was the only pole that I could see everything on my theory list. Plus it had the partially concealed Ghiradelli sign too, which quite frankly, clinched me selecting it as “the pole”.
I didn’t really think of that ledge in the other picture as a step, but its possible. Likewise stonewall’s door could be an actual door in a wall. I do think that our pole is one of the ones down on the beach here. The clues fit too well.

Magesmiley

– Ghiradelli’s Chocolates was originally located at Jackson Square. And if you’ve ever been in the place it does indeed smell quite sweet.

When was that? I thought Ghiradelli’s has been in the same spot since 1863 and jackson square is in the barbary coast area on the other side of town.
Can you explain the significance of the rose, or the lincoln/JFK silouette in the image?
and I would love to see the similarities between the lamp post bottom and the table

hey ya’ll…holli here…
i
have gone over this image…and have what
i
think is the verse to go with it…yes…
i
did get san francisco as well…
i
do have an idea where
i
think it is close too…its the last line that is buggin me…same as everyone else…verse 7 right?
anyone want to hear my ideas?
let me know…thanks..holli

hey ya’ll…holli here…i have gone over this image…and have what i think is the verse to go with it…yes…i did get san francisco as well…i do have an idea where i think it is close too…its the last line that is buggin me…same as everyone else…verse 7 right?
anyone want to hear my ideas?
let me know…thanks..holli

Hi everyone, I’m glad my summer vacation is here. Now I can hopefully help out…
I was doing some searching and although I need to actually take a trip to SF soon I’m going through photos and articles online. I’m also trying to accumulate theories and provide some new twists. That being said…
I was analyzing the solved puzzles and here is what I’ve noticed they share in common:
1. A State outline in each picture.
2. A representation of a fence/wall near the burial site.
3. A representation of the entrance of the park or specific garden the casque is buried.
4. Appears that at least one lat/long coord is in the image. (maybe other numbers are referencing something else?)
Has anybody been able to locate any of these items in Image 1?
Also, the verse doesn’t always appear to be step 1-10 to find the treasure. Of the 2 solved it looks like 1 had the burial site as the first line and the second was in order from where to start.
Sorry, I’m kind of rambling and if I’ve posted too many obvious things let me know

Hi everyone,
I
‘m glad my summer vacation is here. Now
I
can hopefully help out…
I
was doing some searching and although
I
need to actually take a trip to SF soon
I
‘m going through photos and articles online.
I
‘m also trying to accumulate theories and provide some new twists. That being said…
I
was analyzing the solved puzzles and here is what
I
‘ve noticed they share in common:
1. A State outline in each picture.
2. A representation
of
a fence/wall near the burial site.
3. A representation
of
the entrance
of
the park or specific garden the casque is buried.
4. Appears that at least one lat/long coord is in the image. (maybe other numbers are referencing something else?)
Has anybody been able to locate any
of
these items in Image 1?
Also, the verse doesn’t always appear to be step 1-10 to find the treasure.
Of
the 2 solved it looks like 1 had the burial site as the first line and the second was in order from where to start.
Sorry,
I
‘m kind
of
rambling and if
I
‘ve posted too many obvious things let me know

Durian

For real? You expect an artist to exactly represent that font in such a small space on a painting? Looks like he did a pretty good job to me.

small space?
ok lets do the math if the frame is made up of 3″ wood
then the bottom of the picture to the “fold” line is 12 units tall
or 36 inches- that makes sense, he painted it on a standard 36 inch piece of art board then had to extend it up to finish the curve.
that explains the fold line, its not a fold line its the seam between the artboards…
so that means each letter is just over an inch tall and an inch wide…. possbile a smidge bigger.
So yes I expect an artist of the caliber of ggp who probably used an opaque projector to add items to the drawings before painting them on would have got the letters exactly right.
for instance look at the yin yan symbol it is exactly right… examine the other text ie the 38 in the hair, incredibly fine work there.
so again no the Gh does not match the Gh in the sign.

MrBackstop

Ghirardelli connections to the Image.
Backwards G and h
11 white balls in the sky – Globe lights throughout the Square
Blue and Gold – Ghirardelli’s Company colors
Upside IV – 6 on the Ghirardelli clock tower
The eagle head in the snake just below the upside down IV – Eagle is in the Ghirardelli logo
Anybody want to add anything to this?

only that you have the company colors wrong, well not wrong for today but in 1981 this was ghiradelli’s product and colors.
https://atmedia.imgix.net/b3eed2df2cda0d9efe7952766c1bbf8c3a98e688?auto=format&q=45&w=478.0&h=402.0&fit=max&cs=strip

MrSeabass

If that’s the case, then the images of Ohio, Illinois, Charleston, and Roanoke Island do not match the map.

yes correct, we know all the maps are not accurate representations, but his buildings are spot on, and his faces.figures, but mostly the site confirmer images are rock solid. almost traced. and in this case since we are trying to use the Gh as a site confirmer not a map we would expect it to be nailed.

Yeah, that’s true on the colors. At that time frame it looks like they went with the big 3 and didn’t get rid of the red until the early 80s.

Tell me what you think of this . The 36 in the hair represents 36th ave. and 36th ave. runs into that dell area by Spreckels lake. The fact that the fingers point to lets say 43 and some say 34 (the arms crossover), then the location could be somewhere inbetween 34th ave. and 43rd ave. which makes 36 th ave. even more compelling as a guide to the location.

I don’t believe the Apollo 11 has anything to do with this puzzle. It seems like a disconnect tonthe theme or SF in general.
The one thing I like most is the hint from the LotJ about the pearl being perfect as a silver moon. I think it helps as an indication for how to work with the verse or how some landmark has something to do with whatever shares the some character that applies to perfect silver. My current thinking is the number for pure silver is 999, which I find in a clever way might work to describe the sculptures of August Rodin which represent a giant door to Hell. (See The Gates of Hell which include the Thinker presently at the Legion of Honor and the Shades which at the time of this hunts introduction located at the northeast end of the parking lot
I know I’ve said this all before. What the Hell, I just like saying it.

erexere

I don’t believe the Apollo 11 has anything to do with this puzzle. It seems like a disconnect tonthe theme or SF in general.
The one thing I like most is the hint from the LotJ about the pearl being perfect as a silver moon. I think it helps as an indication for how to work with the verse or how some landmark has something to do with whatever shares the some character that applies to perfect silver. My current thinking is the number for pure silver is 999, which I find in a clever way might work to describe the sculptures of August Rodin which represent a giant door to Hell. (See The Gates of Hell which include the Thinker presently at the Legion of Honor and the Shades which at the time of this hunts introduction located at the northeast end of the parking lot
I know I’ve said this all before. What the Hell, I just like saying it.

I could see if the moons in the image had a silver tint to them to lead you in that direction, but IMO they are depicted as Moons,11 (there is no silver in the image) the question is why 11 why not 10 or 12 or 9, ? The puzzle gives you a number to count, 11 if you are trying to connect it to the puzzle you have a couple of options, 11th ave, or as suggested 11 letters in the Ghirardelli sign or IMO Apollo 11 with ties directly to JFK, and confirms that the “path you take ” or the face in the rock is JFK, which runs through GGP. I don’t think that’s a stretch. BP was a Huge Syfy guy, just look at his work it’s all about fantasy and the realm of Sci Fi. Maybe this was an influence to some puzzles and added these hints to the puzzle. Take Boston for instance, looks pretty Sci Fi to me (the illustration) IMO. This is just food for thought and it’s only a suggestion. I do like the idea of silver moon, but I can’t find a direct connection to the image for that idea.

Yes JFK drive

Euhirudinea

Sentiments like the one above are often repeated on this forum and elsewhere, but all evidence suggests that the exact opposite was true. Preiss was made aware by several people well before his death that there was renewed interest in his hunt, and if anything, he went out of his way to obstruct their progress.

I am not sure the last part is true, I think he was not really interested or too busy elsewhere and did not want to be bothered, but I never ever heard that he did anything to obstruct. simply not helping is in no way obstructing. Am I mistaken, What do you mean by obstruct?

Spiritr

Yesterday I was missing 2 keys to the puzzle, now I have 3.
1.digging tools
2.camera man

What about your permit?
and BTW the Permit rules….
Permit will be granted on a first come first serve basis
Activity is supervised by SF Rec & Parks Park Ranger
Specify activity location in permit application
1 hole, 1-hour time limit per permit
Permits will be offered Mon-Fri 9am to 10 am or 12 pm to 1 pm.
One permit per day in each time slot
Probing poles are allowed up to 3.5 feet
Hand-digging only, no power tools permitted
Hole may not exceed 2 feet in diameter, 3.5 feet deep
Avoid drip-line of trees
Tools and tarps must be supplied by permittee
Hole must be refilled and all turf must be replaced exactly as found
No filming allowed

Durian

Just for the record, I’m not saying the moons have anything to do with Apollow 11. I’m just saying they’re metaphor, like the triangle in the Cleveland puzzle.

.
The Triangle in the cleveland puzzle is an exact match to the sign for “The Triangle” a shopping center,
this is where you turned into the park off Euclid and enter Rockefeller park..
Its the same as going down Michigan and turning at the Bowman to enter Grant Park.

Durian

Or, it could be metaphor.
Have you seen eleven moons at night on any of your excursions to San Francisco? And I’m not talking about somehing you may have seen after a few drinks.
So, assuming you haven’t seen eleven moons (fair?)… they must
represent
something other than eleven moons. Metaphor.

no I have not seen 11 moons, I never ever thought they represented moons.
no I do not think they are a metaphor. nor do I think they represent letters on a sign.

maltedfalcon

.
The Triangle in the cleveland puzzle is an exact match to the sign for “The Triangle” a shopping center,
this is where you turned into the park off Euclid and enter Rockefeller park..
Its the same as going down Michigan and turning at the Bowman to enter Grant Park.

Was Ford street the street that lead to the park?

Goonie68

Was Ford street the street that lead to the park?

Yes it was you turned – ford ran a block or so and became east. back in 1981 East made the horses tail turn (now there is a hospital or something sitting on that spot)
the whole road was rearranged.
But basically once you turned at the triangle you just stayed on the road and it went right to the columns.

and just saying.
The Gh does not match the Ghirardelli sign, Yes they are both Serif fonts, but they are not the same serif font, besides the letter thickness, look at the h it is totally different.

The Triangle in the cleveland puzzle is an exact match to the sign for “The Triangle” a shopping center,
this is where you turned into the park off Euclid and enter Rockefeller park..
Its the same as going down Michigan and turning at the Bowman to enter Grant Park.
Was Ford street the street that lead to the park?
Yes it was you turned – ford ran a block or so and became east. back in 1981 East made the horses tail turn (now there is a hospital or something sitting on that spot)
the whole road was rearranged.
But basically once you turned at the triangle you just stayed on the road and it went right to the columns.
I find that very interesting, with Ford, now I know maybe this wasn’t’ intend but I find the fact the street name Ford and you have a horse(well half of one lol) in the illustration Ford = Mustang = horse(illustration) reinforcing Ford street is the main path to the columns.

Goonie68

I find that very interesting, with Ford, now I know maybe this wasn’t’ intend but I find the fact the street name Ford and you have a horse(well half of one lol) in the illustration Ford = Mustang = horse(illustration) reinforcing Ford street is the main path to the columns.

never thought about that – possible…

maltedfalcon

never thought about that – possible…

Here is a possibility for SF, Image: Cable car (iconic image for SF), table, clock, Blue and Gold featured colors, bump on the outline of the dress.
Blue and Gold colors = State of California official Colors = California = California street
Cable car = California line (cable car)
Clock + table = Timetable = schedule= arrival or departure ( in this case a cable car schedule)
Bump = Knob or Nob= hill ( the route that the California line runs through)
There is more if interested……….

Goonie,
I know you like the Rose Garden and so do I, but this is my take.
At Mirror Lake (aka Lloyd Lake), hence the mirrored image, we have the Portals of the Past. Huge monument to the past and future of SF.
http://www.knightstemplar.org/pgeo/mepgm/18.html
Reuben Hedley Lloyd was a master Mason and the temple in SF was erected in his memory in 1958, where our girl is pointing in the Image (5 & 8 blocks on her sleeves). The Masonic temple sits on the former property of Alban Towne on Californian Street which is the doorway that remained standing in the earthquake of 1906 and is the monument in the park. The lines of the verse match up and I believe the casque is behind the Portals on the left side where the natural flat spot is. I’m okay with doubters, and when I get the chance to fly out there, I will dig a nice pit.
In the bottom image you’ll notice that there is a giant pole and giant step. The pole was placed there after the earthquake of 1957 destroyed the rear column. It sat on the huge top step. The column has since seen replaced but in 1982 that is what it looked like. I think being a simple puzzle (based on the value of the pearl) this is our spot.

Gman,
Yes I agree with the portals being a potential spot, the possibilities I posted prior was how we get to GGP from the Iconic image of the cable car.

Durian

I would think if we are to see “glowing objects, then the background of the “moons” or objects would be dark resembling night to get the glow effect, the illustration does not have this to connect “glowing night” with a lighter background, I am not saying your wrong just seems a little off if we are supposed to make this connection.

I just wish someone would stick a shovel in the ground back there.

Durian

So check this out. I can’t grab the image, so you’ll have to follow the link. We have, on-board the Eureka:
Dragons
A clock with Roman numerals
A clock hand with a trefoil (three circles in an ornamental pattern) like the symbol in the dress. Remember that the woman’s hands are pointing like clock hands, with Roman numerals above and below her hands.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomstr … VWy-3JVAKe

If the Eureka was the dig spot I would be on board!

Am I the only one that sees the “animal” on her bath robe to actually be a snake swallowing a sea serpent?

Dragons
A clock with Roman numerals
A clock hand with a trefoil (three circles in an ornamental pattern) like the symbol in the dress. Remember that the woman’s hands are pointing like clock hands, with Roman numerals above and below her hands.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomstr … VWy-3JVAKe

If the Eureka was the dig spot I would be on board!
The dig spot is “in the direction of the object of Twain’s attention,” not on it! Assuming the “object” is the Eureka, then we now have four things from the image connected to the Eureka: dragons, clock hands, a clock with Roman numerals, and a trefoil (three circle pattern).
Goonie68, note too that the woman can be viewed as a “dragon clock.”
If the woman is a clock and her hands are the “arms in the clock” then she would be pointing to 9:20?
What are we looking at? She’s got a dress with a dragon on it, the dragon is surrounded by Roman numerals, and her arms are crossed and pointing, like a clock points.

Goonie68

Dragons
A clock with Roman numerals
A clock hand with a trefoil (three circles in an ornamental pattern) like the symbol in the dress. Remember that the woman’s hands are pointing like clock hands, with Roman numerals above and below her hands.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomstr … VWy-3JVAKe

If the Eureka was the dig spot I would be on board!
The dig spot is “in the direction of the object of Twain’s attention,” not on it! Assuming the “object” is the Eureka, then we now have four things from the image connected to the Eureka: dragons, clock hands, a clock with Roman numerals, and a trefoil (three circle pattern).
Goonie68, note too that the woman can be viewed as a “dragon clock.”
If the woman is a clock and her hands are the “arms in the clock” then she would be pointing to 9:20?
What are we looking at? She’s got a dress with a dragon on it, the dragon is surrounded by Roman numerals, and her arms are crossed and pointing, like a clock points.
If the woman is the clock then her hands are pointing to 9:20?

as in left hand pointing to the 9 and right hand pointing down towards where the 4 would be, is what he’s getting at lol.

Durian, thanks for this link, good stuff.
https://www.loc.gov/resource/hhh.ca4182.sheet/?sp=12
This is where the idea for the sea serpent came from for this Image.

Ghirardelli connections to the Image.
Backwards G and h
11 white balls in the sky – Globe lights throughout the Square
Blue and Gold – Ghirardelli’s Company colors
Upside IV – 6 on the Ghirardelli clock tower
The eagle head in the snake just below the upside down IV – Eagle is in the Ghirardelli logo
Anybody want to add anything to this?

I’ve just always seen a snake’s mouth coming up from under the serpent’s wing. That looks like an eye just below the wing with the snakes mouth wrapped around the body of the serpent. It doesn’t change anything in the puzzle too much. I just felt as thought the speaker tower was the Sea Serpent and the Snake was the Cable Cars/tracks running thru the city streets.
I’ve never seen anyone discuss the Snake and the Serpent or the large “6” and letter “S” at the top of what would be the Snake’s body. I see this as meaning 6 Steps, as in 6 blocks….just like in Boston where it say 5 steps in the verse.
If you start at Stone Wall’s door, Pier 43, and go 6 blocks to the West (Twain’s attn) you end up in National Maritime Park. I’ve previously talked about the Geo. H at the bottom of the snake meaning George Hyde. I just thought I’d throw the 6 and S into the mix as well. Any body come up with other ideas on those?

Thank you cw0909–that site looks helpful.
I decided the background around the dragon looks like the tree background on the map of Golden Gate park posted earlier, so I’m pretty convinced it does represent the park, but I haven’t been able to match the shape of the dragon to any of the roads through the park as I thought others had been able to do.  Can anyone match specific features?  One loop in the center does seem to align with Strawberry Hill but that’s about all I could find.
John

Thank you cw0909–that site looks helpful.
I
decided the background around the dragon looks like the tree background on the map
of
Golden Gate park posted earlier, so
I
‘m pretty convinced it does represent the park, but
I
haven’t been able to match the shape
of
the dragon to any
of
the roads through the park as
I
thought others had been able to do.  Can anyone match specific features?  One loop in the center does seem to align with Strawberry Hill but that’s about all
I
could find.
John

I have a couple of issues with Durian’s solve.
The stem of the rose (Angel Island) is coming from the south side of the island. I think the port was to the north-east of the island.
Alternatively the stem could be GG Bridge. Then the perspective from Marina wouldn’t be right. You have to be standing way in the west for GG bridge to seem coming out of Angel Island.
Somewhere around Cliff House or China Beach.
Both these places also end up with spirals; Point Lobos turn up the trail to Sutro heights or the winding trail to China Beach.
Also the clock/compass shadow points to W not E.

I’m not saying that everything must be to scale or at right place. Afterall I have the Belv./Tiburon attached to cliff house.
I’m thinking the GG Bridge seemingly coming out of Angel Island may be a hint to find a place that this may be visually plausible.

I do like the Gulliver’s Travels tie in to the puzzle, there was a movie in 1977 Gulliver’s Travels, and the book is something we as youths would of read so I can see how this could be a reference, tho I personally think the step is a physical object like the pole

Durian

After decades of speculation by probably hundreds of people as to what exactly constitutes a ‘giant step,’ nobody here is excited that Preiss appears to have given us such a clear-cut hint that there is a numerical answer to this question: 10 yards?

Especially when you consider there have been plenty if theories where the Giant step was resolved to a specific distance.
and considering this was theoretically an easy one I suspect adding layers of literature clues is problematic
that the japanese clues for SF did not reference a particular book for research
it makes more sense that the Giant step is simply a large horizontal or vertical human step.

The topic of Giant Step has inspired this experiment.
3 people (volunteers)
2 people of height of 5’6
1 person of height of 6’1
Giant step : front toe on base line, to front toe on the measured line
This experiment shows that a person 5’6 and a person 6’1 a difference of about 9 inches in separation between the two giant steps, Is it possible that a 5 inch box could be missed with the interpretation of one’s Giant step?
https://ibb.co/9yMQKcy

Giant step could also be equal length (height) as giant pole; using one Giant as a unit of measurement. This also may work with Durian’s spot.

Goonie68

Is it possible that a 5 inch box could be missed with the interpretation of one’s Giant step?
https://ibb.co/9yMQKcy

not if you dig a big enough hole…

maltedfalcon

not if you dig a big enough hole…

That would be the Willhouse effect.

Durian,
if the casque was in maritime park it is probably gone
if not the limited amount of area where it could be could be easily checked
when you say “extremely good match ” I tend to tune out since chicago and cleveland had exact matches, there are extremely good matches all over SF
Yes there is a huge difference between the image artwork sources and your literature reference
that is nobody actually needed to find the image artwork sources to figure out the puzzles they were noticed as an after the fact easter egg
your idea requires the discovery of that clue before finding the casque location.
the 11 letters = moons has always seemed to me to be a stretch and again the Gh is not the same font as the sign (see the part about exact match above)
and lastly a vertical step as a giant step distance really would not matter. just bigger than a normal step – something you would need to jump down or climb up
but since you have a distance length and direction dig it up and prove me wrong…
Not that I wasn’t there at one time, now I just don’t think it is anywhere around there. still best of luck!

Setting Gulliver quote aside, if your location is correct then looking at the “Giant pole, Giant step” could mean that the pole and step are the same size. Don’t be concerned if the tower is taller than the space between the stone and the tower. It won’t be under the stone but a few feet away.

maltedfalcon

but since you have a distance length and direction dig it up and prove me wrong…

That’s the whole point. He can’t get permission to dig.

Choice

Setting Gulliver quote aside, if your location is correct then looking at the “Giant pole, Giant step” could mean that the pole and step are the same size. Don’t be concerned if the tower is taller than the space between the stone and the tower. It won’t be under the stone but a few feet away.

Question: Do you think BP would have people digging holes next to a monument that is important to the City of San Francisco a few feet away? If 5 people came to this very spot(not at the same time) and dug they would tear the S%%H out of the place destroying the area around the monument, Yes? No?

Choice

That’s the whole point. He can’t get permission to dig.

great use a boroscope and prove me wrong.

maltedfalcon

great use a boroscope and prove me wrong.

Do you think it’s legal to probe?

I don’t think it’s legal to probe either. But the whole area is too exposed for my taste.

Choice

I don’t think it’s legal to probe either. But the whole area is too exposed for my taste.

If it was legal I have the equipment to boroscope it, if not don’t want jail time, got a job and bills LOL

Sun Hung Heung Restaurant sign across from the phone exchange:
https://tinyurl.com/y463hhqw
Weak!

So last week I asked about our Russian Lady and the question I have now is for those who have solves in GGP. If Preiss had stated he did not bury a casque in Central Park for the New York Image, why do you think he would have buried a casque in San Francisco’s “Central Park”?

MrBackstop

So last week I asked about our Russian Lady and the question I have now is for those who have solves in GGP. If Preiss had stated he did not bury a casque i Central Park for the New York Image, why do you think he would have buried a casque in San Francisco’s “Central Park”?

Well the most obvious reason is there is no image of central park in the NY image,
the 2nd being he did not say it was not in golden Gate Park.
The 3rd being all the obvious references in the image to parts of golden gate park.

Please help analyze these images for anything that might be considered a possible link.

Im looking and looking -but I don’t see any map of California in this picture –  I was thinking if the current map in the picture thread ran true there would need to be a CA map in pix 1 –
maybe the GGpark map counts.

you could be right.
JFK drive runs right through the park and parallels lincoln.
maybe its both…

Unknown

Unknown:
Did it? really? by who?

Pretty much everyone who has been seriously working the puzzle over the last 15 years and understands the connections Preiss was trying to make. But if you think that you have a better idea, I for one would love to hear it. Your solve is short on details, especially how you have used Verse 10 to find your dig spot.

Did it? really? by who?

Opps I posted the map in the verse thread. Sorry .

Goonie68

Opps I posted the map in the verse thread. Sorry .

It’s okay because I made some verse related comments over there.

Here is a link to PDF with GGP inventory for Historical register it lists dates of construction for areas also –
https://npgallery.nps.gov/pdfhost/docs/ … 001137.pdf

drunknerds

(Seek the columns for the search + the picture of the wall, Fence and Fixture + the picture of the post.) So, I’d like to explore what elements of the picture can also be found in the verse, and vice-versa. Not that EVERY picture has the same rules, but so far two have had them and they’ve BOTH been the final piece to the location.

Unknown

Unknown:
they’ve both been the final piece to the location

Good point. Welcome to the forum.
I wondered if the grass in Image 6 represented the ‘green picket fence’. (Not necessarily this one.) Maybe that could fit the pattern. More abstract though. I guess the ‘tall tree’ would be more obvious.
I’m not sure how close the columns at the entrance to the Greek Garden were to the planter where the casque was buried. Were they both visible from the same spot…? Is this the planter between them, or something else…?

Choice

Dominick, get your shovel and go get it!

Your theory, your dig. Good luck. I will stay in the park.

Dominick

When I go to the park with family we walk the popular theories and talk about the images and the book. Great fun.

me too, everytime me and my family drove thru Crossover Dr, I’ll talk about how the image and verse mislead everyone to believe this is the correct park

“Winding” spiral stem of the rose; winding spring for a winding alarm clock.
Spiral also spinning or turning symbol on the round table.
Top part of the table’s pedestal is silhouette of a cable car.
Bottom part of the pedestal looks like a smoke stack.
I think all these clues point to a cable car turntable.
Here’s a wikipedia description of cable car museum, 1201 Mason. (Masonic reference?!)
“Exterior of the Ferries and Cliff House Railway Co. Building Constructed in 1887. Houses both the cable car winding station, engines, and museum. The smoke stack in the rear was damaged in the 1906 San Francisco earthquake, restored then soon decommissioned when steam power was replaced with electrical power at the winding station.”
Also checkout the walkthrough link:
http://tinyurl.com/y39ef8bl
Here are 3 wooden posts near giant step:
http://tinyurl.com/yye7ozb6

Spiritr

me too, everytime me and my family drove thru Crossover Dr, I’ll talk about how the image and verse mislead everyone to believe this is the correct park

You haven’t found anything.

Dominick, get your shovel and go get it!

The Rodin statues, the Three Shades which also adorn the Gates of Hell along with the Thinker and point to the Latin phrase for “abandon hope, all who enter” were located at the head of the lot.  Just to the right of that the marker was first installed.  I’m not definite of this, but I think the original marker was in place in 1980 along with the Betsy Ross flag pole.  It may have suffered vandalsm at some point, been stolen or broken.
Wish we had information on when exactly the marker was (re)moved.
maltedfalcon, what do you think of this breakdown?  Start at the arch entrance, then walk towards the posts in the plaza, veer to the right towards the golf course and spot an alignment of lamp post over fountain (yellow line at green circle) then continue towards the path that looks like the woman’s hair part and follow the part that runs North in the direction of the 15th hole (near ace is high) and spot the alignment of baluster with Lincoln marker (blue dot on pink line) with Betsy Ross, climb up the bank to a point where you stand right along the wall with the baluster looking as big as it is in the image and then turn towards the Joan of Arc for the dig spot?  That’s so close to where you just dug.  I’m thinking this all makes linear sense.

The terminus of the Lincoln Memorial Highway might better signify the first across as the first road across America.  I find that a spot directly South of the Betsy Ross Memorial Flagpole has to be important.

If you look at the picture just to the right of joan of arch on the street it says Ped Xing.
Just to the right of “Ped” in the clearing between two trees just a few steps from the street is gray/black blob
This is the Lincoln Highway Memorial Marker.
The original location of the Lincoln Highway Memorial Marker was at the peak of the parking lot in line with the arch/fountain/flagpole/Fort Point.
At some time between the 1960s and the 1990s the memorial was removed and then placed in the location it is.
But for several years the memorial was totally gone.
It is possible and actually likely that during the time frame of the creation of the book, there was no Lincoln Highway Memorial Marker in the area at all.
I got this from the Lincoln Highway Association historian.

So that is possibly a significant detail.  Somewhere along the edge of the golf course East of Joan and South of the flagpole or original marker might be where this is heading.  Right now I’m definately throwing out all my previous ideas.  This is getting very interesting.

Could also be a red-tail hawk or the Perigrine Falcon that SF is known for.

This also can represent a phoenix, the city of San Francisco’s flag represents a phoenix on it to commemorate rebuilding of the city in the 1906 earthquake. Look up the flag it kind of resembles the illustration.

This also can represent a phoenix, the city
of
San Francisco’s flag represents a phoenix on it to commemorate rebuilding
of
the city in the 1906 earthquake. Look up the flag it kind
of
resembles the illustration.

Goonie68

This also can represent a phoenix, the city of San Francisco’s flag represents a phoenix on it to commemorate rebuilding of the city in the 1906 earthquake. Look up the flag it kind of resembles the illustration.

Funny I always thought it was a crow.

Goonie68

This also can represent a phoenix, the city
of
San Francisco’s flag represents a phoenix on it to commemorate rebuilding
of
the city in the 1906 earthquake. Look up the flag it kind
of
resembles the illustration.

Funny
I
always thought it was a crow.

Well, I mean, there’s this:
I don’t think you’re going to get an exact match on your bird head: It’s either just a coincidence made by the juxtaposition of a curve, an oval, and a triangle… or else it’s so rudimentary I just can’t see Preiss seeing this children’s block eagle and saying “yes! That is art worthy of my book, out of all the art in GGP.”

Well,
I
mean, there’s this:
I
don’t think you’re going to get an exact match on your bird head: It’s either just a coincidence made by the juxtaposition
of
a curve, an oval, and a triangle… or else it’s so rudimentary
I
just can’t see Preiss seeing this children’s block eagle and saying “yes! That is art worthy
of
my book, out
of
all the art in GGP.”

bbi

Which line or wording ties V10 to image 1 for you Spirtr?

Glossiphoniidae

FTFY

first 12 lines, and the last 9 lines
words that ties to image…
“v” and “B.”
The City That Knows How

Unknown

Unknown:
Are people using a different verse for this image? I would like to know what people think.

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I think that anyone who is trying to solve the SF puzzle using a Verse other than #7 (with Image #1) is wasting their time. Actually, I can speak for at least two others closely associated with the puzzle, at least anecdotally. In over 17 hours of podcasts, neither host (nor any of their guests for that matter), ever seriously suggested that the commonly accepted Image/Verse/City connections are incorrect. Not once.

Unknown

Unknown:
Are people using a different verse for this image?
I
would like to know what people think.

I
can’t speak for anyone else, but
I
think that anyone who is trying to solve the SF puzzle using a Verse other than #7 (with Image #1) is wasting their time. Actually,
I
can speak for at least two others closely associated with the puzzle, at least anecdotally. In over 17 hours
of
podcasts, neither host (nor any
of
their guests for that matter), ever seriously suggested that the commonly accepted Image/Verse/City connections are incorrect. Not once.

Euhirudinea

In over 17 hours of podcasts, neither host (nor any of their guests for that matter), ever seriously suggested that the commonly accepted Image/Verse/City connections are incorrect. Not once.

Renovator, I love your work, and I especially enjoy the podcasts, but I have to respectfully disagree. I submitted that same question via Facebook to be asked on the podcast’s SF episode, and MaltedFalcon did admit that nobody could really be sure of the correct Image/Verse pairing until a casque was dug up.
Even with all the crazy “post-Expedition Unknown” theories being thrown around (wolves!!), I’m still cautious about being too closed-minded with this puzzle. Clinging too tightly to the “commonly accepted” connections is going to get us the same “commonly accepted” results… which is to say, no casques.

Euhirudinea

In over 17 hours
of
podcasts, neither host (nor any
of
their guests for that matter), ever seriously suggested that the commonly accepted Image/Verse/City connections are incorrect. Not once.

Renovator,
I
love your work, and
I
especially enjoy the podcasts, but
I
have to respectfully disagree.
I
submitted that same question via Facebook to be asked on the podcast’s SF episode, and MaltedFalcon did admit that nobody could really be sure
of
the correct Image/Verse pairing until a casque was dug up.
Even with all the crazy “post-Expedition Unknown” theories being thrown around (wolves!!),
I
‘m still cautious about being too closed-minded with this puzzle. Clinging too tightly to the “commonly accepted” connections is going to get us the same “commonly accepted” results… which is to say, no casques.

Sorry to interrupt but could the rose be a hint to dali’s meditative rose? If so that may point us to Buddha statue and moon bridge and koi ponds.

Choice

Sorry to interrupt but could the rose be a hint to dali’s meditative rose? If so that may point us to Buddha statue and moon bridge and koi ponds.

Absolutely! Why not?

I mean, you can cut up the picture in to basic shapes and find basic shapes anywhere. The bottom of the dress is a right angle so any square could be a clue. The references in the solved images are clear. The focus should be historical photos from 1980s.

Choice

Great initiative Mys.
BTW these are all Verse 7 related posts.

Are people using a different verse for this image? I would like to know what people think.

Last time I checked people are using V5, 6, 7 and 10 for I1.

representing club V10 here~

Spiritr

representing club V10 here~

Which line or wording ties V10 to image 1 for you Spirtr?

bbi

Which city ties V10 to image 1 for you Spirtr?

FTFY

MrBackstop

I want to throw this out there for fun. I had always kinda seen the Reagan Head over the rose to be Reagan and then someone pointed out it looked like Lincoln. Now that I really look close it definitely looks like Lincoln but there is what appears to be a Fish Head in front of the Lincoln profile.
This could indicate that the image is referring to Lincoln Blvd to the West in the Presidio and Fisherman’s Wharf to the East.
Any thoughts on this? My solve is in the SF Maritime National Park and it is located between these two spots. And yes I know other things are too but curious if anyone has noticed this fish head.

I do not see a fish head, but I do not see lots of things that other people are seeing. so that I don’t see it doesn’t mean its not there.
I am curious why of all the things he could pick to represent fisherman’s wharf… he would choose a fish head as a symbol, – was there a sign with a fish head?

I want to throw this out there for fun. I had always kinda seen the Reagan Head over the rose to be Reagan and then someone pointed out it looked like Lincoln. Now that I really look close it definitely looks like Lincoln but there is what appears to be a Fish Head in front of the Lincoln profile.
This could indicate that the image is referring to Lincoln Blvd to the West in the Presidio and Fisherman’s Wharf to the East.
Any thoughts on this? My solve is in the SF Maritime National Park and it is located between these two spots. And yes I know other things are too but curious if anyone has noticed this fish head.

It seems a bit out of the way, but that might be Sagebrush Theater at Frontier Village in San Jose.
The mountain scene seems to be the backside of the fake wall in the second picture.

It seems a bit out
of
the way, but that might be Sagebrush Theater at Frontier Village in San Jose.
The mountain scene seems to be the backside
of
the fake wall in the second picture.

Just read through all posts. Phew! Will someone who has lined up the crossed arms to crossover drive please post your image? Thank you.Lafitte

If you insert image 1 into a word processor, crop the bottom half off and transform the top half of the image.
I used the mouse to select the bottom edge and dragged up until I had a very narrow panoramic view of the hills.
Notice that the hills have a blue outline . I now realise why . Some hills now appear in the distance.
Or tilt the book away from you.
Is this the view from Russian Hill Park?

wk, I bet someone who is on site will be able to confirm this for you.  I’ve never been there, and google streetview is just not perfect when it comes to replicating the real thing.  My mind’s eye is stretched enough as it is, I think you’d have more luck squeezing blood from a stone than manipulating a hidden image from a pic that way.
I’m not opposed to starting in Russian Hill or near the Dragon Arch, because I think the path takes you all the way up to the Palace of the Legion of Honor.  From there it becomes obvious that you take direction from the Thinker to the Betsy Ross to the Lincoln Marker over the ballustrade, across the 15th hole, and over to a bench that sits with a nice view of GG Bridge.  I believe that nothing has much changed in that natural setting and when someone who knows this verse and image well gets close to that spot they WILL FIND A CASQUE.  I believe it would’ve been obvious 30 years ago.  It might be less so now, but I think still very doable.  Come on maltedfalcon, get movin.

which ones?

The San Francisco Parks Department has a new podcast about The Secret.
https://player.fm/series/i-left-my-park … asure-hunt

brutal lol. I was worried they were gonna talk about my solution…glad they didn’t.
hes right about the expo but it covers at least 2 expos and the 1915 one is of lesser importance than the one at the de young.

Doing a little more basic research on the area around Gh square……Alcatraz “the rock” is definitely in a straight shot from Gh sq as P1 shows but it looks like there aren’t that many parks in the vacinity for casque burial ie…Grant Park and Greek Gardens… unless we consider the area called Fort Mason.  Is that somewhere where anyone could go and dig?
While looking at the satellite of the area at maps.google.com I noticed 2 large curved buildings 1 block down N Point St…what is this?  Just curious.

Doing a little more basic research on the area around Gh square……Alcatraz “the rock” is definitely in a straight shot from Gh sq as P1 shows but it looks like there aren’t that many parks in the vacinity for casque burial ie…Grant Park and Greek Gardens… unless we consider the area called Fort Mason.  Is that somewhere where anyone could go and dig?
While looking at the satellite
of
the area at maps.google.com
I
noticed 2 large curved buildings 1 block down N Point St…what is this?  Just curious.

Hey Fox (and all);
Sorry I haven’t posted in awhile, just too busy.  My brother is going to SF next week.  Any suggestions on where to snoop around?  I’m gonna have him check my original thought–that it’s at the cliff house by the totem pole–see if he can get to it yet…
ABQRAM

Hey Fox (and all);
Sorry
I
haven’t posted in awhile, just too busy.  My brother is going to SF next week.  Any suggestions on where to snoop around?
I
‘m gonna have him check my original thought–that it’s at the cliff house by the totem pole–see if he can get to it yet…
ABQRAM

abq…tell him to take his backhoe and dig up the entire Golden Gate Park.  That way, we can either confirm it as a site by locating the casque or mark it off of our list of possible SF locations….
Really, I would have him look around the Gh square….see if there are any parks or nice little grassy areas nearby.  I really do like the Gh on her robe = Gh sq.

abq…tell him to take his backhoe and dig up the entire Golden Gate Park.  That way, we can either confirm it as a site by locating the casque or mark it off
of
our list
of
possible SF locations….
Really,
I
would have him look around the Gh square….see if there are any parks or nice little grassy areas nearby.
I
really do like the Gh on her robe = Gh sq.

maltedfalcon

I have a copy of the Lincoln Highway Association History of the Lincoln Highway. SF to Truckee.
I will look it up. but I think  it was written before 2002.

I really like this photo:

Do you get to keep the key?
wilhouse

Chinese
years of the dragon
in Golden Gate Park…
1916
Cervantes
1928
Shakespeare (inc rose poem)
1940
Fuschia Dell
…1952, 1964…
1976
Teng-Hui Lee visits San Fransisco and announces that they intend to bestow a gift from China…the temple.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=o2o … le&f=false
(This one presumably?)

Durian

Ha! You’re 100% right, re: casques. Until someone comes up with one in SF, NY, or wherever, nobody with a theory—no matter how good or plausible—is an expert or has solved anything.
I’m just trying to make the point that IMO many theories tend to reach for clues and devise elaborate explanations while often overlooking the obvious or simple. For instance, there are many theories on the Twain reference, and almost all of them make some sort of sense on some level. I’m not saying any of them in particular is right or wrong, but the most obvious reference to Twain in SF is the Eureka. By far. Everything else, while valid, is not what one thinks of when one thinks of Twain. He piloted boats like the Eureka. He took his pen name from that type of boat. The Wikipedia page on Mark Twain makes no reference to Vivaldi, for instance. But people seem to think Vivaldi is a clue. Maybe?
I think when you can plausibly tie together enough obvious line-of-site references to one geographic location, ie. a cable car, a cable car bell, a reversed Gh, Alcatraz, Angel Island, the door to a chocolate factory (under the Gh and where the air smells sweet BTW), a boat of the type Twain would have piloted a hundred times, an image of water/islands in the distance—I think you are on to something. For me, it’s hard to ignore the accumulation of that type of evidence. Even the Roman numerals in the dress could be representative of the clock tower at Ghirardelli. And as shown elsewhere, I think the symbol at the bottom of her dress could represent a cable car turnaround. There’s a lot going on image/verse-wise in this one little slice of Russian Hill. Too much for me to ignore.
Do I think it would be easy to dig my proposed solution? Physically digging it out, yes. It’s just weeds, though some utility boxes are nearby. There are a couple of BIG issues though. Who do you ask for permission? Is it the city, PG&E, or the NPS? Someone would need to start at City Hall and find out who owns that strip of land. The NPS Park Supervisor I spoke with said the location in question likely is an easement belonging to the city. If that’s the case, getting a permit may be relatively easy. If it’s owned by the feds, it’s pretty much a game over situation. I’m sure the Park Service could be convinced to allow some ground penetrating radar of the location, and maybe some probing, but the American Antiquities Act of 1906 makes getting permission to dig almost impossible, according to my ranger source.
So someone in the Bay Area would need to start physically at City Hall, requesting the documents showing who owns the spot in question. I personally think getting hold of the plans/photos pre-turnaround renovation would be a good starting place as well, because if the stairs didn’t exist before ’79, obviously that’s not the sight to dig. But like I said elsewhere on the forum, I’m pretty certain from the evidence there were stairs leading up to the turnaround from Hyde Street in the 70s, just like there were (and are today) stairs leading down to the turnaround from Beach Street. Makes a lot of sense.

Are you still kind of local to SF or do you visit there occasionally? I think the best thing to do is go to your spot and scope it out. Take pictures and video, maybe talk to some people. See what kind of coverage there is from authorities. Also, now you have webcams all over the place too, maybe see where they are because you will be monitored in some fashion.
Judge what type of effort would be required to possibly recover this thing. Even if it seems difficult, you’ll never know until you dig. I believe that the option to query the publisher is gone since BP is no longer with us, and the company went belly up, so you cannot submit a proposed site to them any longer.
I also think you are on the right track with determining property ownership and possibly what was there and not there in 1980. You might be able to research some of this online at this point or make some calls.
As for probing, I think you might be able to do that without much attention, however, in a setting like that I think you’ll hit a lot of stuff. GPR, while enticing, seems like overkill for a pearl. If you just want the satisfaction of finding the casque, then go for it, but again you might get a whole bunch of false readings.
Again, I like where you are going with this. Plausible stuff. I say evaluate it until you convince yourself either way.

Durian

As far as the puzzles being for locals versus outsiders, I would only note that the author gave an address to write with a solution if someone figured it out remotely but didn’t have access to the site. That tells me that in his mind, his puzzles were clearly intended to be solvable by people beyond just the locals.

or for people who were locals moved away but recognized the hints.
up to this point only only locals(ish) have found a casque

Durian,
First of all, hats off to you for a well thought out and coherent proposed solution. Second, there is a lot to like in here. I have a couple of thoughts:
Strengths
1. I love the interpretation of the table, clock, bell, rose. It fits pretty nicely.
2. Ghirardelli Square connection.
3. Lombard Street incorporation into your solve.
Weaknesses
1. Federal property. I have a hard time believing that BP would have buried anything on Federal Land. This assumes that it was under that status in 1982. Also, I realize that things were a bit more laid back in 1982, but why risk getting arrested or encouraging readers to dig in federal property?
2. I’m a bit flat on the Giant Pole. Street lights don’t impress me much. However, given the benefit of the doubt, when combined with the not so giant steps, I’ll buy that for the moment.
3. Ace is high reference is a little tenuous. Not sure if the Alice Marble Tennis Courts were there in ’82, but could that be the Ace is High?
4. The dress in Image 1 is a pretty good match for GGP. It is hard to ignore that.
So, in looking at your proposed solve in a reverse way, could we perhaps could say that George Sterling Memorial Park would be a good candidate site? Twain speculated in silver mining in Nevada. You can see a lot of famous landmarks from Sterling Park.
Heading up from the Ghirardelli Square area, we could take the Larkin Stairs which is a giant step (or steps). This would put us in Sterling Park. I don’t have any answers for giant pole at the moment, but I’m just throwing some ideas out there.
Disclaimer: I believe the casque is buried at the Portal of the Past in GGP. Although I am certainly open to other concepts.

Durian,
I like how you can discuss this without getting bent out of shape. You make a pretty persuasive set of arguments.
I like that monument, but it is far removed from the rest of the hunt, although I could see it as being inspiration.
What’s your thoughts on the Dragon’s Gate also being inspiration? It’s somewhat of a landmark and I’m sure it was there in the 70s. Maybe some stuff just to place us in SF?
I’m still stuck on not being in GGP. It seems that most of the puzzles are centered in larger, well-established parks that have a history of conservation.
BTW, if you listen to the Shhh podcast, Malted Falcon mentions that he once saw a map of GGP area and the Great Highway letters matched the reversed Gh in the Image. Maybe the map maker (tourist type map) was taking artistic liberty and incorporating the signature font, but I tend to agree with Malted.
I could see that maybe you’ve nailed some of the tourist part of the puzzle, as I believe each puzzle has a dual purpose. First to take us on a visit through the city in question, then focus us on the actual casque location. Many of the landmarks you have pointed out would be very touristy, including the Coit Tower as our possible Giant Pole. Even for someone who has never visited the city, they would recognize the cable car on the hills, Lombard, the marina area, with Alcatraz in the distance, etc. In fact, the three times I’ve been to SF, I never even got to GGP, but I saw all that other stuff.

Durian

I’ve tried to put myself in the author’s shoes when thinking about this puzzle. He likely did some research before flying out to San Francisco on what was likely a quick trip of 2 or 3 days. He would have had a plan. I doubt he had access to a guidebook with super detailed information about Golden Gate Park, like we do now. More likely, he had a guidebook that highlighted the usual tourist spots, so he planned his trip accordingly.
I think he probably spent a day walking around and taking photos. Maybe this was his once-in-a-lifetime trip to San Francisco, one of the world’s great cities. My wife thinks he probably took a boat tour of the bay like any other tourist, hence the clear Alcatraz references. I assume he would not miss the opportunity to visit Angel Island, probably not intending to bury the treasure there, but just to see it for himself since he had a fascination with immigration.
So my question is this: in a book with a theme of immigration, why put the treasure somewhere obscure and make obscure references to fairly obscure parts of the city with no relation to immigration? Why not make references to famous songs, signs, and iconic San Francisco places in a part of town rich with immigration references? Chinatown, Russian Hill, North Beach, Fisherman’s Wharf… Why make obscure Twain references when the Eureka is right there? Preiss probably saw the boat while walking around and thought: “Aha, I can make a verse about this using Mark Twain!” Why not make Angel Island a focal point? Not the place where the treasure was to be buried since it is remote, but a place to make the reader think about by featuring it prominently in the clues and visually prominently as the reader physically walks about the city following the clues? Wasn’t the Chicago casque found in a well traveled park close to downtown? The whole reason for dressing up like a city/utility worker was because he was burying these things in public.
Regarding the Dragon Gate being inspiration, I think that’s totally possible!
My two cents.

There are people who have way more knowledge of the history of the hunt in SF than me, but I believe some people think BP actually spent a good deal of time there, between attending grad school at Stanford and spending time with his future wife who lived in SF. I want to say this has been a tough one to crack because he had time to weave a lot of narrative into the puzzle. I think the Image is a bit overwhelming in the amount of crazy detail, almost like he handed JJP 100 photos and said “incorporate ALL of this!”
Having looked at most of the puzzles, I believe the immigration connections are a bit of a side note and perhaps just a literary device to frame the book. I think you’d be hard pressed to find any of the puzzles that really emphasize the immigration angle, especially the nationality for a particular puzzle, like Italian for Boston or German for Milwaukee. I think it’s more of a 30,000 foot thing.

Durian, very well put together solve. I like seeing your thought process and the various photos to go along with it. I too believe the casque is in National Maritime Park. And although I’ve made some new discoveries and revamped a couple thoughts on Image 1 and the Verse, I’m still in the same park but looking for a targeted dig spot.
As for the Rose on the J-shaped stem. I’ve described before how the rose is a Bardou Job Rose that is famously grown in two areas of the World….Wales and Alcatraz. The background behind the rose is above the horizon line indicating the Bardou Rose on Alcatraz.
The J-shaped stem represents two things. First, it is similar to all the wrought iron, decorative fencing and posts in San Francisco and around the Maritime park. Second, The Maritime Park is bound by Beach St to the South, Hyde to the East, and Jefferson to the North. Notice the vine making the number 3 below it,….Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States.
That’s just another of the many reasons my solve is in this park.

MrBackstop

Durian, very well put together solve. I like seeing your thought process and the various photos to go along with it. I too believe the casque is in National Maritime Park. And although I’ve made some new discoveries and revamped a couple thoughts on Image 1 and the Verse, I’m still in the same park but looking for a targeted dig spot.
As for the Rose on the J-shaped stem. I’ve described before how the rose is a Bardou Job Rose that is famously grown in two areas of the World….Wales and Alcatraz. The background behind the rose is above the horizon line indicating the Bardou Rose on Alcatraz.
The J-shaped stem represents two things. First, it is similar to all the wrought iron, decorative fencing and posts in San Francisco and around the Maritime park. Second, The Maritime Park is bound by Beach St to the South, Hyde to the East, and Jefferson to the North. Notice the vine making the number 3 below it,….Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States.
That’s just another of the many reasons my solve is in this park.

The Bardou Job Rose seems to have been discovered on Alcatraz in 1989. The history of it sounds murky enough to not be a candidate.

I’ll throw another one at you real quick. You see the rock in C/D-4 with the 3 crosses on it? Notice that there are other horizontal bars on the vertical bar of the crosses. This is because those aren’t crosses, they are the masts of the Balclutha….as in:
Not far away
High posts are three

Yes Gman, discovered in ’89…..the word “discovered” is key. They are believed to have been there for decades without any clear knowledge of how they got there. An employee? A prisoner? A visitor? who knows.

I forgot to ask….to not be a candidate…for what?

MrBackstop

I forgot to ask….to not be a candidate…for what?

Even if BP knew about it, how would any treasure hunters? This is a very specific rose variety that was thought to be extinct. For the general population, a rose is Shakespeare, or a garden or simply the outline of something.

MrBackstop

I’ll throw another one at you real quick. You see the rock in C/D-4 with the 3 crosses on it? Notice that there are other horizontal bars on the vertical bar of the crosses. This is because those aren’t crosses, they are the masts of the Balclutha….as in:
Not far away
High posts are three

That is something I can agree with. Especially since it was used at times to house immigrants.

Durian

My comment regarding the map would be this: what are the odds this map “with a reversed Gh?”

zero, on the map the G and h were correctly oriented. although the h in highway was lower case.

Oh, I see what you are saying now Gman. I was under the impression that the Bardou Job was introduce in 1850 like the other heirloom roses and that it survived over the decades of time. The point I was still making is about the roses Alcatraz was famous for and the Gardens that have been around since the 1800s. I believe BP would have definitely been aware of the roses and vegetable gardens. When I took my tour of Alcatraz 8 years ago I learned all about those items. I’m would guess BP would have toured or learned about the roses and gardens the same way I did.

Durian

Hi gMan,
Thanks for the back and forth. I love it! That’s what a board is supposed to be all about…
I haven’t heard the podcast. My comment regarding the map would be this: what are the odds this map “with a reversed Gh?” was seen by the author, vs. the odds of the author seeing the Ghirardelli sign? And why a lowercase “h” for Great Highway vs. a lowercase h for Ghirardelli? Along the Hyde St. cable car line, I believe your first glimpse of the sign as you come down the hill is the “Gh,” with the rest of the sign obscured.

I agree that the Gh is very distinct and that alone might get you to SF. I also agree that you would see it reversed on the Ghiradelli building, I’ve seen it myself.
I should have said that it was not reversed on the alleged tourist map, from what I gather. I do believe that BP would have seen a tourist map from that time period, or simply, BP and JJP being clever in the design of the puzzle. A lot of things in these puzzles seem to have dual meanings. I am in essence agreeing with you, although I am having some trouble placing the casque outside of GGP or the immediate area of GGP.
I think we are presented with clues from around the city, or cities if you expand this to all of the puzzles. They help ground us in the location and present historical or physical references that we can use to help solve the dig location.
Take Milwaukee for example. There are many references downtown to various landmarks, buildings and people. This aids us in the hunt in Lake Park, where many people believe the casque is located. Moving back to SF, in the Coit Tower, we have arched windows (like the arch in Image 1) that overlook parts of the city including the harbor. In the tower, we also have murals depicting scenes, including the mural of “Library” showing a copy of Karl Marx’s Das Kapital. In GGP we have Marx Meadow, albeit named after a different Marx, however I contend that if we make these connections, then see that Marx can represent Mark’s Meadow, as a clever play on words, Twain’s attention would be a good fit.
I firmly believe that BP truly thought these puzzle were easier than they are. In this respect he created a masterpiece that is still alive some 36 years later, but also a failure in that most people gave up and he was never able to release a second book as originally intended. Yes, two casques were recovered, the first with help from the author and the second by brute force. I do not believe that either group had “solved” the riddles. Now, we could also say that both of the finds were arguably easier puzzles, although it is easy to say in retrospect. If we assign a value to the gem as being an indicator of the complexity of the puzzle, as BP mentioned, then why have SF, Milwaukee, and New Orleans not been found?
I suspect that in order to find the casque in SF, you would need to be relatively familiar with the city, or dedicate a lot of time in the local library, especially back in 1982. Here we are in 2018 armchair hunting with a ton of resources at our disposal and yet it is still elusive. I think you may be onto some great ideas, and I’d like to see your wife’s take on it. Keep sharing!

Durian

I’ll play along here. If the small circles (so not to be confused with actual bubbles or spheres in the Images) represent water, the entire map of GGP on her dress would be water. This is not far from the truth.
Originally, a necklace of parks was proposed by Fredrick Law Olmsted and they would have fit into the natural habitat of SF, requiring little water in the process. The city decided they wanted a park like Central Park, and thus it became GGP. Then they figured out they need huge irrigation systems and water works to support the park. Water and pipes everywhere. Just ask Malted, lol!

MrBackstop

Oh, I see what you are saying now Gman. I was under the impression that the Bardou Job was introduce in 1850 like the other heirloom roses and that it survived over the decades of time. The point I was still making is about the roses Alcatraz was famous for and the Gardens that have been around since the 1800s. I believe BP would have definitely been aware of the roses and vegetable gardens. When I took my tour of Alcatraz 8 years ago I learned all about those items. I’m would guess BP would have toured or learned about the roses and gardens the same way I did.

The Bardou Job is actually a very old rose variety, but without having access to that information, I doubt it would be referenced. You could be right that gardens could be referenced at Alcatraz, but who thinks of that? I suppose if you took the tour, but I think it’s a little bit of a stretch.

I believe Preiss was very familiar with Olmsted and also the history of every place he buried a casque. I also believe he was acutely aware of what was Federal Land and what was not. Let’s look at Lake Park in Milwaukee again. Prior to 1969-70 there was Nike Missile Tracking Station in the park, crazy huh? Also, the North Point light house was run by the USCG. I believe he avoided those specific areas and buried the casque nearby. This lends credence to your possible solve, so I wouldn’t rule it out, but he seemed to have given some though to where you should and shouldn’t be digging.
Every treasure casque is buried underground, at a depth of no more than three to three and one-half feet. The casques are protected by lustrous transparent boxes, and are sealed.
The following places do not hold any treasure:
(a) any life-threatening location, such as a dangerous highway embankment, a contaminated area or active railway track
(b) any cemetery
(c) any public or private flower bed
(d) any property owned by the contributors to the book, their families or friends.
Now, this does not specifically say no to Federal Land, but who wants to run the risk of that, especially as you mentioned, running foul of the Antiquities Act. This guy was a bit of an adventurer, but at the end of the day, was a New Yorker with a job and family. He probably did not want to spend time in lockup in New Orleans.

Durian

Hi gMan,
Good points, all. Respectfully, my main critique of what you’re saying re: the level of complexity in the puzzles (having multiple meanings, deep knowledge, etc.) would be that I think when trying to solve any problem, looking at the obvious solutions usually lead to an answer more quickly and more often than adding complexities that may or may not have been intended. Again, it’s like Occam’s razor. You may be right and many things in the puzzles might have double meanings, but if Preiss thought the puzzles were easy to solve, I would argue he probably didn’t make them super complex, with a ton of multiple meanings.
What I’m saying is this: Maybe all the references to the waterfront are there simply for what they are—clues to get us looking around the waterfront to solve the problem.
I have personally never seen any real smoking gun that we are supposed to be looking in Golden Gate Park. The best argument for this from my perspective is that her dress flares out, similar to a map of the park. But when you put that up (along with potentially the Gh standing for Great Highway) versus all the references to cable cars, cable car bells, Alcatraz and justice, cable car turnarounds, Lombard Street, a boat that Mark Twain would be able to pilot today if we were able to suddenly revive him via science 🙂 … If you put all of these things up against a dress that flares out (which I contend is a reference to Lombard Street anyway), and a reversed “Gh” on a map (which I contend is the view most people first get of a world-famous sign), I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming that we are supposed to be at the waterfront. Has anyone considered that the artist put the flare in the dress just to throw us all off? That seems more likely to me, given the preponderance of references to the waterfront.
If you show a reversed “Gh” to one hundred San Franciscan’s I bet you almost all of them say: “That’s a reference to the Ghriardelli sign.”
By the way, I’m an SF native and lived there most of my life. I’ve spent hour upon hour in GGP, but never visited Shakespeare’s Garden. But maybe that was my bad, lol

Hey, almost any well reasoned theory is as good as another at this point until someone comes up with a casque.
People have tried this six ways to Sunday. Simple, complex, vectors, shadows, planetary alignments… I want to believe that it is simple. My opinion is that it becomes simple when you see it. This is why I am pleased with my Portals of the Past theory. Everything lines up in one spot and it’s secluded. That’s one thing we have not discussed yet, is the ease of burying the thing and more important, the ease of digging for it. The Cleveland guys dug for some 8-9 hours. The Chicago guys dug multiple times.
It’s my thought that you will need at least a few hours of probing and digging to find one of these things. Nature of the game where trying to find an object so small with rough instructions. Do you think someone can do that in your proposed spot, even with permission?

Durian,
Awesome work with your proposed solution. I can see why the Aquatic park would be a great location, it does have a lot of clues you can connect to the verse and image. I am also a native of San Francisco born and raised, so the SF puzzle has been my focus for the most part. I have looked at it two ways, In the park (GGP) and out of the park(Downtown, Marina). I found that almost anything you can link to verse and image in both scenarios. Through my research, like gman said BP lived in the bay area for a time and had more knowledge about SF then I think he would of had with other locations. I also think that the puzzles where meant for more of the local people then tourist, because what are the chances that people who bought the book had the means to travel to all the cities he burred a casque in. I think the puzzles could resonate with the local people of the city’s he had placed each casque in. With that being said, the one clue that sticks out to me is “High posts are three” SF 1970’s-80’s, the local TV stations (KTVU) channel 2 (FOX) now, during commercial breaks( Or KTVU image) they would show a picture of
Sutro
Tower between breaks or at the end of the broadcast right after Creature Feature (for those who remember and BP would of been a fan right? This was right up his alley) this was before TV was on 24/7, this Iconic picture was a stable in local broadcasting which almost any resident who owned a TV at the time would of know this. I am sure you remembered it right? I think if you are going to ask 100 people which one of these objects would be recognizable to SF natives they would say
Sutro
Tower, all though Gh is good too. This one image for me brings me to GGP after looking at all the other possibilities seeing the tower and reading the verse makes a strong connection for me. So looking at a few factors in your proposed solutions Questions would be:
Would BP take a risk in burring a casque in such a highly visible place with a sidewalk just feet way with Tons of passing bye people to see him. Would he jeopardize his “Secret” if someone saw him and decided to wait till he left and dug it up?
Both casque’s that have been found connected to large parks with gardens and history to theses gardens. The back ground of the book is about nature and in all the images flowers are a common thread. Do you think the Aquatic Park fits this picture?
The quote ” Great Western Sea, There was no place farther we could go” GGP sits on the edge of the west. Do you think this is more likely?
I think if you are a tourist then the wharf makes senses if your a local then GGP marke sense ?
As of right now my research has strengthen GGP ( for me) as the area of search. I could be way off as I do not have a caques and with out one everyone has a chance in there theories, again great work tying in clues, visuals and verse.

Durian,
Awesome work with your proposed solution. I can see why the Aquatic park would be a great location, it does have a lot of clues you can connect to the verse and image. I am also a native of San Francisco born and raised, so the SF puzzle has been my focus for the most part. I have looked at it two ways, In the park (GGP) and out of the park(Downtown, Marina). I found that almost anything you can link to verse and image in both scenarios. Through my research, like gman said BP lived in the bay area for a time and had more knowledge about SF then I think he would of had with other locations. I also think that the puzzles where meant for more of the local people then tourist, because what are the chances that people who bought the book had the means to travel to all the cities he burred a casque in. I think the puzzles could resonate with the local people of the city’s he had placed each casque in. With that being said, the one clue that sticks out to me is “High posts are three” SF 1970’s-80’s, the local TV stations (KTVU) channel 2 (FOX) now, during commercial breaks( Or KTVU image) they would show a picture of Sutro Tower between breaks or at the end of the broadcast right after Creature Feature (for those who remember and BP would of been a fan right? This was right up his alley) this was before TV was on 24/7, this Iconic picture was a stable in local broadcasting which almost any resident who owned a TV at the time would of know this. I am sure you remembered it right? I think if you are going to ask 100 people which one of these objects would be recognizable to SF natives they would say Sutro Tower, all though Gh is good too. This one image for me brings me to GGP after looking at all the other possibilities seeing the tower and reading the verse makes a strong connection for me. So looking at a few factors in your proposed solutions Questions would be:
Would BP take a risk in burring a casque in such a highly visible place with a sidewalk just feet way with Tons of passing bye people to see him. Would he jeopardize his “Secret” if someone saw him and decided to wait till he left and dug it up?
Both casque’s that have been found connected to large parks with gardens and history to theses gardens. The back ground of the book is about nature and in all the images flowers are a common thread. Do you think the Aquatic Park fits this picture?
The quote ” Great Western Sea, There was no place farther we could go” GGP sits on the edge of the west. Do you think this is more likely?
I think if you are a tourist then the wharf makes senses if your a local then GGP marke sense ?
As of right now my research has strengthen GGP ( for me) as the area of search. I could be way off as I do not have a caques and with out one everyone has a chance in there theories, again great work tying in clues, visuals and verse.

the connection to Angel Island are the elephants. Can you see the elephants? “I have seen the elephants”

the connection to Angel Island are the elephants. Can you see the elephants? “
I
have seen the elephants”

as per your first question, as I’ve said numerous times and gman has reiterated here…the treasure hunt is located within a larger puzzle, that is the mythology of the location you are in…there is always one clue in the verse that connects you to this, and many visual clues.

as per your first question, as
I
‘ve said numerous times and gman has reiterated here…the treasure hunt is located within a larger puzzle, that is the mythology
of
the location you are in…there is always one clue in the verse that connects you to this, and many visual clues.

One observation about the dragon on her robe: The serpent seems to be two creatures. One main dragon with the head and tail and the other is the thicker one right in the middle that looks like a giant 6. Also the platform that the pearl sits on has six sides outlined in blue indicating importance. My crude blue line drawing indicates the natural flow of the dragon. Sorry, hard to draw with a mouse!
I think the giant 6 is a blown up overlay of the dragon’s head and neck.

Cool pics. Much better than the aerial diagrams that litter the forums…

That statue appears to be on private property…? Can probably ask the resident(s) how long it’s been there.
That basin looks like it’s built into the wall….hard to tell if that’s public or private….or, how long it’s been part of the wall / that area on the side of the public stairs…
(Choice — Interesting find, imho. Whether it’s there or not, the area under the basin is visually reminiscent of the shrubbery planter in Cleveland…)

Choice

Unredacted version:
https://tinyurl.com/ydayj6km
Other side of steps:
https://tinyurl.com/y72b7pmh

I have scouted this area, and talked to the residents there, the statue is only about 8 years old, the fountain has been there a long time, but the stone wall(in front) has only been there for about 10 years. The area was backed filled and the stone wall was added.

There are lamp posst all around Telegraph hill that resemble the shadow under the table, This lamp pole is next to the fountain.

Here is what I think is a match that puts you at the Top of Greenwich steps, possible a confirmation of the area to be in, but again IMO, just could be pareidolia?
The Rock face is disguised in the image to represent these rock formations atop of the stairs.
famous poems about dreams
shesher kobita
The L shaped rock is infront of the path to the stairs, the other rock formation is to the right of the stairs.
what rhymes with arrow

I joined this post a couple of month ago assuming that people are sharing their findings for the sole purpose of solving the puzzle. Now it’s obvious that some people hold back their findings and this makes the whole point of crowd sharing and solving moot. Side-effects may include waste of time, redundant effort and possible hostility.
I’ve been getting PM’s from people I’ve never heard of that claim to have the same idea and came up with my findings a long time ago, me too, me too. It would’ve been nice to share your findings so someone else doesn’t have to waste countless amount of time researching. So to these people, #methree

My first post. Working on this a long time. I don’t have the energy to go there, get permits, etc…, to test my theory. Choice, turn it upside down. There’s a time piece under a statue. Like the time capsule in Washington Square in front of the church. Under the Benjamin Franklin statue. An old temperance statue. Matches with the fountain relic. The triangle symbol matches. The other markings too. There’s a sign post hanging in the park, matches with a Washington Park signpost.
12 paces from west side of the Ben Franklin statue in Washington Park, SF. Right eh? Towards Columbus where the dragon looks. Ask permission to dig. You don’t want to dig the time capsule by accident. It’s a city park, you need permission.
More thoughts:
Verse 5:
2202 Lombard
(bunch of stuff that leads you to Coit)
A wingless bird ascended
Born of ancient dreams of flight
Beneath the only standing member
—–
Of a forest
To the south
“Can this be anything other than a tree?” Yes, Ben Franklin could be the only one standing in the park! Break up the sentences. This is a park where everyone is usually lying down on towels. Franklin is the only standing member (of the park). Ben Franklin also did some work with balloons, wingless bird.

Maybe this is the only standing member of a forest….
https://www.artandarchitecture-sf.com/n … -2011.html

Lonesome palm.
I think it’s near this thing at the Greenwich steps.
https://tinyurl.com/ybzzqdgl

Unredacted version:
https://tinyurl.com/ydayj6km
Other side of steps:
https://tinyurl.com/y72b7pmh

Trohn, I’d love to see the pics you provided links for, but I don’t think the links are working properly (could be user error on my part) – I just get the main page for the Gh Square Interactive Picture Tour.  Can you get some screen captures of those pics or something?

Just lucubrating…
Lady seems to be pointing a symbol in the monument… Or maybe is pointing us the burial site?
El Jayo

When The picture below and the painting lined up with the:
monument, tree and billboard to the
womans outline, rose and clock
Eljayo…Good observation.  However I am going to contend that you actually have to flip the girl around to match the monument properly from this vantage point. By doing that, she is actually pointing at the rose and the clock.  You cannot flip the rose and the clock because it has the water in the background
I got pretty excited.
It was time to take the next step.
Reviewing the last part of the the poem which reads:
Giant Pole
Giant Step
To the place
The casque is kept.
I started to think my connections of the picture to the image might be correct!
Before I had been looking for pictures on Angel Island for Flag poles.  The thing that bothered me though was the giant step part.  How big is a giant step?  The only way that could make sense is that it would have to be in the image.
Then it hit me.  Could the “Giant pole” in this case be the palm tree?
The Billboard is postioned another 15ft behind the tree..  and you have to cross a 10 ft wide paved trail to get to it.
Could the “Giant step” be a figurative statement that you must step over the paved trail?
Since I couldn’t go there, I decided to get in contact with the Park Service.
I got in touch with the Park Superintedant of Angel Island. This is no joke …Dave Matthews.
I told him about the treasure hunt and that I thought there was something buried in the park.  I sent him the picture and the peom and we discussed what I thought was a pretty good solution.
The solution being that I thought the casque was buried underneath the billboard.
I asked him about the billboard and he said:
“it’s a billboard that has some information about park events and information about the island.
Year’s ago there used to be a Fire Hose on the back of it”
😮
My question to everyone is:  What is the object holding up the table in the image?
I think, and it’s been mentioned before, it’s a fire hose nozzle.
Here are the pictures again: