Looking closely these aren’t exact matches, but they all look suspiciously close. Note the curling stem of the rose fits the design of the attaching arm to the light post.

I
thought that’s what we’ve been doing.

I thought that’s what we’ve been doing.

Goldengate

There have been several high res scans
of
the book that have been made public. None are perfect… but if you compare and contrast them, it may help to make out the scanning artifacts that aren’t in the book.

I
was using one
of
those hi-res. images and
I
was told by Mr. “someone” that my scan was crap, so
I
used his!

Goldengate

There have been several high res scans of the book that have been made public. None are perfect… but if you compare and contrast them, it may help to make out the scanning artifacts that aren’t in the book.

I was using one of those hi-res. images and I was told by Mr. “someone” that my scan was crap, so I used his!

Goldengate

Repeat after me: 1982… 1982… 1982… 1982…

It would be nice if
I
had an original copy
of
the book, but the cost is outrageous.
I
do not zoom in higher than 5X, a typical magnifying glass
of
1982 era technology!

Goldengate

Repeat after me: 1982… 1982… 1982… 1982…

It would be nice if I had an original copy of the book, but the cost is outrageous. I do not zoom in higher than 5X, a typical magnifying glass of 1982 era technology!

So the other night Linda S
of
wiki suggested that we should take a closer look at Grace Cathedral and Huntington park area because her nephew saw Grace written by the dragon.
I
know Scrappy was looking at that area once.
I
think this is what she’s referring to:

So the other night Linda S of wiki suggested that we should take a closer look at Grace Cathedral and Huntington park area because her nephew saw Grace written by the dragon. I know Scrappy was looking at that area once. I think this is what she’s referring to:

Test

Hello Everyone.
Here follows the rambling thoughts
of
a Senior Citizen based 5,239 miles away in Derbyshire, England.
All the images shown in the book The Secret ( A Treasure Hunt ) are Gestaits.
Image one is a typical gestalt with an Anthropomorphic Landscape, which obviously accounts for the many Pareidolia moments encountered by all intrepid Treasure Seekers.
So when Apophenia sets in the mind becomes anarchic and turbid.
Sagacity is called for. Without lucidity, all images become fatuous and nugatory.
I
have read through most
of
the posts on this Forum, and had a few smiles and chuckles along the way. Anus Corn hole is head and shoulders in the lead for laugh out loud moments ( only Joshing! ) xx
My deepest respect to ALL the contributors on this site for their thoughts and proposals for the San Francisco Casque ( Cask ) burial location. Fantastic work everyone.
But, It’s not turned up yet!

Hello Everyone.
Here follows the rambling thoughts of a Senior Citizen based 5,239 miles away in Derbyshire, England.
All the images shown in the book The Secret ( A Treasure Hunt ) are Gestaits.
Image one is a typical gestalt with an Anthropomorphic Landscape, which obviously accounts for the many Pareidolia moments encountered by all intrepid Treasure Seekers.
So when Apophenia sets in the mind becomes anarchic and turbid.
Sagacity is called for. Without lucidity, all images become fatuous and nugatory.
I have read through most of the posts on this Forum, and had a few smiles and chuckles along the way. Anus Corn hole is head and shoulders in the lead for laugh out loud moments ( only Joshing! ) xx
My deepest respect to ALL the contributors on this site for their thoughts and proposals for the San Francisco Casque ( Cask ) burial location. Fantastic work everyone.
But, It’s not turned up yet!

Huh?!
I
think
I
need to go back to school.

Huh?! I think I need to go back to school.

Choice

Huh?!
I
think
I
need to go back to school.

As far as
I
know, gesalt isnt a thing as much as it’s a way
of
describing the process your brain uses to interpret an image. Take sf for instance. You see a chick with a dragon dress, but what it really is is a group
of
circles, curves, lines and other shapes that trick your mind into thinking it’s a chick in a dragon dress.
Hes saying (
I
think) that process is tricking your mind into seeing things that arent actually there, and in order to solve the puzzle you need to look at the shapes, and how the shapes work with the shapes in the other images instead
of
thw image as a whole.

Choice

Huh?! I think I need to go back to school.

As far as I know, gesalt isnt a thing as much as it’s a way of describing the process your brain uses to interpret an image. Take sf for instance. You see a chick with a dragon dress, but what it really is is a group of circles, curves, lines and other shapes that trick your mind into thinking it’s a chick in a dragon dress.
Hes saying (I think) that process is tricking your mind into seeing things that arent actually there, and in order to solve the puzzle you need to look at the shapes, and how the shapes work with the shapes in the other images instead of thw image as a whole.

no it doesn’t, the base is obviously longer than the side, look at it sideways.  Its not even a right triangle.
again, I seriously dont equate it with Euclid
But I like how you are working with the image to find a street, I have often wondered if that lake = the bay.
The exploratoriam door frames are cement not stone, but I think you could consider cement stone for the purposes of this hunt. The sleve squares are similar but they arent really that close. are they?

Big news, or half-big, depending on how you look at it…just in the way the top of the Cleveland Terminal Tower is outlined upside down in the shape of the space between the branches of image 4, I’m very confident the half or right-sided upside down shape of the Transamerica Pyramid building is outlined on the left side of image 1 just above the eye level of the woman where the water meets the rock.  I’ll work on putting in the visual later when I’m on my home computer, it’s very convincing.  Too bad it has to be only one side, so it won’t shrug off scrutiny, but this being said, I think this HAS to be the start path or iconic image.
Where I was worried about Union Square being our candidate for a treasure ground, now I’m less worried.  I expect one or two long streets will lead us to a park setting where we will find our giant pole…or at least where it once stood.

Actually I know right where you are talking about. looked at it many times.
yet compare that to any other bldg image in the picture water tower, terminal tower City hall, castle…
They are all quite detailed.
this is just a line that generally (not exactly) follows the contour of one part of a building.
Personnally (and this is just my opinion,) I think it’s not.
To answer your questions old lamp posts of that style are everywhere in San Francisco, even worse, old plain lamposts are commonly replaced with reproduction old style posts.
SF enjoys retro styling, for example they have brought back and restored many old style street cars from the 30s and and 40s and 50s. Things that would not have been there in the 80s
are in place and styled as or restored so that they look like they have been there all along.
It is actually pretty easy to find a lamp post that generally matches the outline, yet if you look the shape of the glass lamp is usually rounded, however the shape of the silhouette under the table has flatter sides or is squared.
Several locations have the triple top lampposts that could be High posts are three, however no matter where you go in SF Sutro tower is above and near everything. I’m pretty sure that’s high points are three, unless you actually found the casque
under a triple topped lamp post.

Actually I know right where you are talking about. looked at it many times.
yet compare that to any other bldg image in the picture water tower, terminal tower City hall, castle…
They are all quite detailed.
this is just a line that generally (not exactly) follows the contour of one part of a building.
Personnally (and this is just my opinion,) I think it’s not.
To answer your questions old lamp posts of that style are everywhere in San Francisco, even worse, old plain lamposts are commonly replaced with reproduction old style posts.
SF enjoys retro styling, for example they have brought back and restored many old style street cars from the 30s and and 40s and 50s. Things that would not have been there in the 80s
are in place and styled as or restored so that they look like they have been there all along.
It is actually pretty easy to find a lamp post that generally matches the outline, yet if you look the shape of the glass lamp is usually rounded, however the shape of the silhouette under the table has flatter sides or is squared.
Several locations have the triple top lampposts that could be High posts are three, however no matter where you go in SF
Sutro
tower is above and near everything. I’m pretty sure that’s high points are three, unless you actually found the casque
under a triple topped lamp post.

So, zero chance of recovering it from Union Square?  It underwent a renovation in 1998 that included lots of paving.

yes there is no soil left on union square that wasnt removed and replaced during the renovation. the square was completely stripped down to the concrete parking lot under it.
yet not a cause for alarm, because i’m pretty sure thats not anywhere near where it was buried.

well, I’m only jumping to conclusions.  I thought about using the dragon on the dress to signify the Drake hotel after following my version of the picture maze, which is a detail to turn in the direction of Union Square.  Having little verse left, (still lost on Education and Justice…) I am back to thinking the Dewey monument is our Giant Pole.

erexere

Better pic of lamp at Montgomery and Sutter. (the first one I come to based on a path I’m working on)
The top of the watch is the most recognizable portion with it’s pointy bell shape matching the top of the light.

Now that most recent angle on the lamp posts….I can buy into.  That is a pretty darn good match for the watch pedestal in the pic.  Falcon, are these posts scattered all around SF or just in this one area?

I can’t answer that for sure, but I’ve seen at least 3 old style posts that have those features.  Most on Sutter, some on Powell and Market, and then some at the Palace of the Legion of Honor.
This next image is similar to the Exploratorium doors but maybe more similar to the sleeves.  The back side of the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium.

Glad you brought up the retro lamp activity..yet another hole in the leaky boat of theories.
Im generally skeptical on the partial match but as a perfect half image, I am going to give it some weight until i cant reason where we are to be led.  If its just wrong, i’ll have a suitably strained solution as usual.  ::)
Sutro Tower eh?  I like that very much, because it serves well as an Aligner (more of my custom reasure hunt jargon) with what is ultimately the Giant pole/step.
The last few days of exploration have really inspired me to rethink the other images, including my Sam Hill Memorial in Corbett, Oregon idea.
Edit; it’s clear to me now that the verse doesnt waste itself with details about where to start the path.  At stonewalls door must be in view of the casque.

Glad you brought up the retro lamp activity..yet another hole in the leaky boat of theories.
Im generally skeptical on the partial match but as a perfect half image, I am going to give it some weight until i cant reason where we are to be led.  If its just wrong, i’ll have a suitably strained solution as usual.  ::)
Sutro
Tower eh?  I like that very much, because it serves well as an Aligner (more of my custom reasure hunt jargon) with what is ultimately the Giant pole/step.
The last few days of exploration have really inspired me to rethink the other images, including my Sam Hill Memorial in Corbett, Oregon idea.
Edit; it’s clear to me now that the verse doesnt waste itself with details about where to start the path.  At stonewalls door must be in view of the casque.

erexere

Maltedfalcon.  I’m sorry I’ve been offensive towards you in the past.  I’m an abrasive personality.

never once have you offended me.  Hope I havent offended you.
we can argue over ideas all you want.  I never have taken it personally.
your method’s aren’t mine,  of course mine still haven’t found a casque either, so whose to say who is closer.

Not sure when the Rodin thinker was put in the courtyard, but I’m not sure if it was there in 1981
it might have been in a different location.  The whole thing was redone in the 90s lots of renovations and re-arranging.
I can see a mythological /clash of the titans link with the cleveland picture,
this one though not so much.

Yes Josh, you busted it in your solve which hasn’t worked out so far. Let me ask you this, and anyone else…What do you have the other part of the snake’s body meaning? What are your solves for the “6” and the “S”?

Children are fighting again. Need a hall monitor.

MrBackstop

Yes Josh, you busted it in your solve which hasn’t worked out so far. Let me ask you this, and anyone else…What do you have the other part of the snake’s body meaning? What are your solves for the “6” and the “S”?

what s? like the middle section?
i have explanations for both if so

Dang, Josh, buddy, how old are you?13?

Guys,
I am aware that the cable cars were under repair during the time that the book was released. However, even if they were not in service, cable cars were such a distinct feature for San Fransisco, it is hard to imagine that they do not play into the puzzle in some fashion. This holds true whether one believes there is an image of a cable car or not in Image 1.

Guys,
I
am aware that the cable cars were under repair during the time that the book was released. However, even if they were not in service, cable cars were such a distinct feature for San Fransisco, it is hard to imagine that they do not play into the puzzle in some fashion. This holds true whether one believes there is an image
of
a cable car or not in Image 1.

Hey, do the cable cars run on different lines at all?
I
‘m looking at cable car No. 6 (from the time on the clock) and
I
see an image
of
it on Hyde Street on the Powell & Market line. Would the other lines also have a car No. 6? Does it even matter?

Hey, do the cable cars run on different lines at all? I’m looking at cable car No. 6 (from the time on the clock) and I see an image of it on Hyde Street on the Powell & Market line. Would the other lines also have a car No. 6? Does it even matter?

Cable car imagery that some people have noticed and proposed:
Head-on outline of a cable car in the post of the round table
Distinctive cable car bell on top of the watch on the table
The table top combined with the outline and the bell, and perhaps with the spiral stem nearby, could imply one of the turntables in the system
…and something I just noticed. The figure at the bottom of the dress panel, which looks like a circle made out of a backwards-facing and forwards-facing capital D, could also imply a cable car turntable, a circle with a track running through the middle.

Cable car imagery that some people have noticed and proposed:
Head-on outline
of
a cable car in the post
of
the round table
Distinctive cable car bell on top
of
the watch on the table
The table top combined with the outline and the bell, and perhaps with the spiral stem nearby, could imply one
of
the turntables in the system
…and something
I
just noticed. The figure at the bottom
of
the dress panel, which looks like a circle made out
of
a backwards-facing and forwards-facing capital D, could also imply a cable car turntable, a circle with a track running through the middle.

Kalessin

…and something I just noticed. The figure at the bottom of the dress panel, which looks like a circle made out of a backwards-facing and forwards-facing capital D, could also imply a cable car turntable, a circle with a track running through the middle.

Yes, bbi just covered all that in his video!

gManTexas

Hey, do the cable cars run on different lines at all?
I
‘m looking at cable car No. 6 (from the time on the clock) and
I
see an image
of
it on Hyde Street on the Powell & Market line. Would the other lines also have a car No. 6? Does it even matter?

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types
of
cars

gManTexas

Hey, do the cable cars run on different lines at all? I’m looking at cable car No. 6 (from the time on the clock) and I see an image of it on Hyde Street on the Powell & Market line. Would the other lines also have a car No. 6? Does it even matter?

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types of cars

maltedfalcon

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types
of
cars

So does only the Powell & Market line have a car number 6? Can we take this to be a clue? Is that particular line important, e.g. “Running north, but first across”.

maltedfalcon

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types of cars

So does only the Powell & Market line have a car number 6? Can we take this to be a clue? Is that particular line important, e.g. “Running north, but first across”.

maltedfalcon

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types of cars

Were the cars even running when BP visited? I know they shut the cars down for a year or more around that time to replace practically everything.

maltedfalcon

2 different cable car lines – 2 different types
of
cars

Were the cars even running when BP visited?
I
know they shut the cars down for a year or more around that time to replace practically everything.

So back to Coit!
If we assume the dragon represents windy Lombard street, and it’s nose pointing to a hill, Russian hill, then the tail end of Lombard street (pun intended) would be the Pioneer park. If you look closely you may even see X marking the spot!

gManTexas

So does only the Powell & Market line have a car number 6? Can we take this to be a clue? Is that particular line important, e.g. “Running north, but first across”.

Choice

Were the cars even running when BP visited? I know they shut the cars down for a year or more around that time to replace practically everything.

They were closed for updates from around 82 to around 84 (Pretty much the day the books release). So yes, they would have been running at the time (1981) but the entire turntable was altered at the Aquatic Park. However, I don’t think that would have impacted anything in regards to the rest of the solve if it was at the Aquatic Park . A few months ago I came up with a theory based on the cable car running north to hyde st. pier and the Aquatic Park. I believe that walking around this park you can match quite a few of the icons around the dragon which seem to lead to a certain point in the park. However, I applied for a permit and there is a strict no dig policy. Anyway, put together a walkthrough if anyone would like watch it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EZTPqi … sp=sharing

Choice

Were the cars even running when BP visited?
I
know they shut the cars down for a year or more around that time to replace practically everything.

They were closed for updates from around 82 to around 84 (Pretty much the day the books release). So yes, they would have been running at the time (1981) but the entire turntable was altered at the Aquatic Park. However,
I
don’t think that would have impacted anything in regards to the rest
of
the solve if it was at the Aquatic Park . A few months ago
I
came up with a theory based on the cable car running north to hyde st. pier and the Aquatic Park.
I
believe that walking around this park you can match quite a few
of
the icons around the dragon which seem to lead to a certain point in the park. However,
I
applied for a permit and there is a strict no dig policy. Anyway, put together a walkthrough if anyone would like watch it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EZTPqi … sp=sharing

Most convoluted one yet?
BTW
By 1979, the cable car system had become unsafe, and it needed to be closed for seven months for urgently needed repairs. A subsequent engineering evaluation concluded that it needed comprehensive rebuilding at a cost of $60 million. Mayor Dianne Feinstein took charge of the effort, and helped win federal funding for the bulk of the rebuilding job. In 1982 the cable car system was closed again for a complete rebuild. This involved the complete replacement of 69 city blocks’ worth of tracks and cable channels, the complete rebuilding of the car barn and powerhouse within the original outer brick walls, new propulsion equipment, and the repair or rebuild of 37 cable cars. The system reopened on June 21, 1984, in time to benefit from the publicity that accompanied San Francisco’s hosting of that year’s Democratic National Convention.
Courtesy Wikipedia

Most convoluted one yet?
BTW
By 1979, the cable car system had become unsafe, and it needed to be closed for seven months for urgently needed repairs. A subsequent engineering evaluation concluded that it needed comprehensive rebuilding at a cost
of
$60 million. Mayor Dianne Feinstein took charge
of
the effort, and helped win federal funding for the bulk
of
the rebuilding job. In 1982 the cable car system was closed again for a complete rebuild. This involved the complete replacement
of
69 city blocks’ worth
of
tracks and cable channels, the complete rebuilding
of
the car barn and powerhouse within the original outer brick walls, new propulsion equipment, and the repair or rebuild
of
37 cable cars. The system reopened on June 21, 1984, in time to benefit from the publicity that accompanied San Francisco’s hosting
of
that year’s Democratic National Convention.
Courtesy Wikipedia

cable car….there’s no cable car in image 1….
well, anyways,
big LIKE to the google earth video solve
much better than reading big long sci-fi friction. CLEVER!

bbi

They were closed for updates from around 82 to around 84 (Pretty much the day the books release). So yes, they would have been running at the time (1981) but the entire turntable was altered at the Aquatic Park. However, I don’t think that would have impacted anything in regards to the rest of the solve if it was at the Aquatic Park . A few months ago I came up with a theory based on the cable car running north to hyde st. pier and the Aquatic Park. I believe that walking around this park you can match quite a few of the icons around the dragon which seem to lead to a certain point in the park. However, I applied for a permit and there is a strict no dig policy. Anyway, put together a walkthrough if anyone would like watch it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EZTPqi … sp=sharing

That’s a pretty cool use of technology.

bbi

They were closed for updates from around 82 to around 84 (Pretty much the day the books release). So yes, they would have been running at the time (1981) but the entire turntable was altered at the Aquatic Park. However,
I
don’t think that would have impacted anything in regards to the rest
of
the solve if it was at the Aquatic Park . A few months ago
I
came up with a theory based on the cable car running north to hyde st. pier and the Aquatic Park.
I
believe that walking around this park you can match quite a few
of
the icons around the dragon which seem to lead to a certain point in the park. However,
I
applied for a permit and there is a strict no dig policy. Anyway, put together a walkthrough if anyone would like watch it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EZTPqi … sp=sharing

That’s a pretty cool use
of
technology.

Spiritr

there’s no cable car in image 1….

Really brother, you’re worse than Josh. Bring something to the table or learn from Josh and scram.

Spiritr

I’m impressed, surprisingly impressed,
with the wrong verse, wrong interpretation on practically everything, and you don’t even know how to pick out the things that matters in the image
yet you came up with the correct location in order.
wow, I’m speechless at the moment….

So…What’s the correct verse and the correct interpretation? Sorry in advance if I missed something and you have already stated the correct verse and interpretation.

Spiritr

I
‘m impressed, surprisingly impressed,
with the wrong verse, wrong interpretation on practically everything, and you don’t even know how to pick out the things that matters in the image
yet you came up with the correct location in order.
wow,
I
‘m speechless at the moment….

So…What’s the correct verse and the correct interpretation? Sorry in advance if
I
missed something and you have already stated the correct verse and interpretation.

Hey BBI, regarding search light, why are the light spots half-moons? They may be moon windows.

Choice

Hey BBI, regarding search light, why are the light spots half-moons? They may be moon windows.

Hi, Sorry not quite sure what you mean in regard to “why are the light spots half-moons?”

bbi

Hi, Sorry not quite sure what you mean in regard to “why are the light spots half-moons?”

Search light shining in the sky searching for enemy snipes are normally round and full circle. In the painting the moons are half moons (half shiny and half dark).

bbi

So…What’s the correct verse and the correct interpretation? Sorry in advance if I missed something and you have already stated the correct verse and interpretation.

The alternative verse is argued to be verse 10. Isle of B may be Belvedere isl., you know the one that looks like a horn over the rose.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=770&start=2611

Choice

Search light shining in the sky searching for enemy snipes are normally round and full circle. In the painting the moons are half moons (half shiny and half dark).

Ahh I see what you mean. Its nothing more than an theory really to explain the multiple moons in the sky at once. I.e. During WWII there could have been multiple search lights at various points, pointing at the sky.

Choice

Search light shining in the sky searching for enemy snipes are normally round and full circle. In the painting the moons are half moons (half shiny and half dark).

Ahh
I
see what you mean. Its nothing more than an theory really to explain the multiple moons in the sky at once.
I
.e. During WWII there could have been multiple search lights at various points, pointing at the sky.

You put a lot of effort into it and that’s commendable. A+
There should be a feedback system in this forum! If you don’t keep a minimum contribution score you get automatically dumped. (looking at you spiritr!)

You put a lot
of
effort into it and that’s commendable. A+
There should be a feedback system in this forum! If you don’t keep a minimum contribution score you get automatically dumped. (looking at you spiritr!)

Here’s another idea for this part of the snake. One of many reasons I’m in National Maritime Park.
There is a Letter “g”, letter “E” and letter “o” at the bottom with a Captial “H” on its side in this design. Geo is short for George and the “H” is for Hyde. George Hyde Street is the Eastern Border of the National Maritime Park.

MrBackstop

Here’s another idea for this part of the snake. One of many reasons I’m in National Maritime Park.
There is a Letter “g”, letter “E” and letter “o” at the bottom with a Captial “H” on its side in this design. Geo is short for George and the “H” is for Hyde. George Hyde Street is the Eastern Border of the National Maritime Park.

already busted this…seeing as you point it out…ill explain…it actually says GEORGE…GEO going down and rge back up…and it relates to george harrison taking acid and visiting sf…but i like george hyde as a secondary reading cause he leads you to another “ace is high”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hyde_(RAF_officer
) (which would be the application of this clue to the ghiradelli/maritime park area).

GEORGE is 100% correct , but not George Harrison….

whatever you say man…lol…

it’s
George
Jacob Gershwin, and also
George
Hearst

there are many georges…i can tell you with absolute certainty that both the ones ive mentioned are more primary references than gershwin, who has no ties to sf (though he does to la and ucla…which ive already noted is part of the puzzle, been to, and mapped out mind you)…ive also noted that hearst was part of the puzzle multiple times…but again…whereas you can attribute this to any george with any ties to sf whatsoever…george sterling being a wayyyyyyy better one than the ones youve mentioned…to solve it, you need to “use” the clue in CONTEXT!!!
so youre not “wrong” that they are referenced (it’s effectively a reference to every referenced george)…but you are definitely not applying the clue correctly when it comes to the treasure hunt. but you do you. lol

white boy may have been a late edition…preiss was a white boy…probably pointing to himself…fucking narcissist.

Choice

I always thought the vertical rock formation with horse’s ass on top to be the coit tower with a line of parrots on top of it.
Matching the vertical stripes
The horse’s ass may be the representation of an observatory dome, Coit’s observatory deck with a finger pointing on top. Or the sea lion on the bolder pointing to the direction of Fisherman’s wharf where sea lions are. (I just like to type horse’s ass)

ok. whoa. a) thats not the parrot. the parrot is in the top right area of the rocks, that is a wading shorebird of some sort as you can tell via the beak, i call it the birdfallo cause its attached to a buffalo (and both clues are meant to be read together) b) there is a seal lower right looking up, what are you calling the sea lion out of curiosity? c) coit tower is the nose upside down (and there is a UFO above it…).

Choice

I
always thought the vertical rock formation with horse’s ass on top to be the coit tower with a line
of
parrots on top
of
it.
Matching the vertical stripes
The horse’s ass may be the representation
of
an observatory dome, Coit’s observatory deck with a finger pointing on top. Or the sea lion on the bolder pointing to the direction
of
Fisherman’s wharf where sea lions are. (
I
just like to type horse’s ass)

ok. whoa. a) thats not the parrot. the parrot is in the top right area
of
the rocks, that is a wading shorebird
of
some sort as you can tell via the beak,
i
call it the birdfallo cause its attached to a buffalo (and both clues are meant to be read together) b) there is a seal lower right looking up, what are you calling the sea lion out
of
curiosity? c) coit tower is the nose upside down (and there is a UFO above it…).

Choice

However the leg of the table being a combination of a tower and a firehose nozzle points me to Coit.
Also flipping the table upside down orients the table correctly; E to the east side.
Also the graphics on top of the Coit elevator has many clues:
The blue genie lamp
Wind rose
Up/Down triangles
Bell shape on top

where exactly are you seeing a genie lamp in this? *confused*

Choice

However the leg
of
the table being a combination
of
a tower and a firehose nozzle points me to Coit.
Also flipping the table upside down orients the table correctly; E to the east side.
Also the graphics on top
of
the Coit elevator has many clues:
The blue genie lamp
Wind rose
Up/Down triangles
Bell shape on top

where exactly are you seeing a genie lamp in this? *confused*

the genie vase looking blue spot is actually a korean duck vase in the asian art museum
(can you figure out why?! …i bet one person can…
)

the genie vase looking blue spot is actually a korean duck vase in the asian art museum
(can you figure out why?! …
i
bet one person can…
)

The blue bay is the blue genie lamp.
Sea lion is sitting on the horse’s ass,
UFO?
Do you see a Jedi master or Millennium Falcon?

JoshCornell

where exactly are you seeing a genie lamp in this? *confused*

After removing the clutter in the middle.

Sounds from the sky…..check out the lat./lon. numbers.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/luc … -wind-harp

Choice

At least mine is blue!
It’s most likely a combination of layout of the SF bay and a steam boat. Notice the keel.

its blue cause it is also south lake…its south lake and the duck vase at the aam…

MERLIN

Sounds from the sky…..check out the lat./lon. numbers.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/luc … -wind-harp

You do realize that so. SF is a different city than SF

You never let me have any fun

MERLIN

You never let me have any fun

If we need any misdirection we’ll read Spirit-Rrrrrr’s posts!

Choice

If we need any misdirection we’ll read Spirit-Rrrrrr’s posts!

TRU-DAT!

MERLIN

Sounds from the sky…..check out the lat./lon. numbers.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/luc … -wind-harp

Like my sounds from the sky better
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=770&start=2993

Starting to worry about your mental health Durian. This is inkblot territory.

Choice

Starting to worry about your mental health Durian. This is inkblot territory.

Shhhhh…he’s making Rorschach happy.

Choice

The blue bay is the blue genie lamp.
Sea lion is sitting on the horse’s ass,
UFO?
Do you see a Jedi master or Millennium Falcon?

flip it upside down thats a ufo over a tower bro. the uss enterprise is in one, actually…so are chtullhu and xenomorph…havent found the falcon…yet…

Choice

After removing the clutter in the middle.

duck vase at AAM is way better match.

Choice

You do realize that so. SF is a different city than SF

i like it.

Durian

This is endlessly fascinating. A shadow on the San Carlos rock/plaque:

ok, youve gone full blown dambala…

JoshCornell

duck vase at AAM is way better match.

I’m sure I can find even a better match at my local salvation army store.

Choice

I’m sure I can find even a better match at my local salvation army store.

rrrrright…but the duck vase actually has a purpose…it tells you something…

JoshCornell

rrrrright…but the duck vase actually has a purpose…it tells you something…

It quacks?

At least mine is blue!
It’s most likely a combination of layout of the SF bay and a steam boat. Notice the keel.

Combo of SF bay layout and ss canberra?
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=770&start=2941

Durian

And of course there is more—multiple references to cable cars, Angel Island, Alcatraz, Ghirardelli, the Bay and evirons… It starts to add up to a lot of data all viewable in a radius of less than 100 yards.

But the fact that while you see all that , there is nothing that leads to a probable dig site , indicating it probably is just random similar shapes and you are in the wrong spot.

Aquatic Park,
Durian,
I admire your conviction to your theory, I also have a strong case for a theory, and will stay on my theory until I dig and prove it right or wrong. Last month I did go down to the Aquatic Park to check out things in my theory and some of the areas you have suggested, I did a small amount of research to see how the Speaker plays into your solve, as your Giant Pole. When I came across this article about the Park (below) and the Historical significance it has to San Francisco, it really harped on how important this area was. By reading this article I can see why this area would be an impossible dig location even back in 1980. I did go and scout the speaker, and what I could tell is that digging a hole around this structure would of been very hard to do with all the people around and it (even at 5am with Joggers) would of not been very private. So the question is would BP risk someone seeing him in the open digging a hole and would they be curious? Would he take that chance? Not to mention that it is a protected area? Again I am not saying your theory is wrong, but if you can’t dig (protected area) to prove it then how will you know it’s right? I hope you can get to your location and see the area for yourself, and see that taking your Giant step lands you in concrete, which by the action of taking a step is quite small. Maybe you will get to see with boots on the ground and how strong your theory is.
https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/harrison/harrison29.htm#photos

Goonie68

Aquatic Park,
Durian,
I admire your conviction to your theory, I also have a strong case for a theory, and will stay on my theory until I dig and prove it right or wrong. Last month I did go down to the Aquatic Park to check out things in my theory and some of the areas you have suggested, I did a small amount of research to see how the Speaker plays into your solve, as your Giant Pole. When I came across this article about the Park (below) and the Historical significance it has to San Francisco, it really harped on how important this area was. By reading this article I can see why this area would be an impossible dig location even back in 1980. I did go and scout the speaker, and what I could tell is that digging a hole around this structure would of been very hard to do with all the people around and it (even at 5am with Joggers) would of not been very private. So the question is would BP risk someone seeing him in the open digging a hole and would they be curious? Would he take that chance? Not to mention that it is a protected area? Again I am not saying your theory is wrong, but if you can’t dig (protected area) to prove it then how will you know it’s right? I hope you can get to your location and see the area for yourself, and see that taking your Giant step lands you in concrete, which by the action of taking a step is quite small. Maybe you will get to see with boots on the ground and how strong your theory is.
https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/harrison/harrison29.htm#photos

Interesting..Van Ness…also a street bordering Fenway.

strike13

Yes, Charleston has a Cleveland street off of King, there is also a Lombard street in downtown NY, Boston has Van Ness as you stated, and there is some others but can’t remember off the top of my head…
Interesting..Van Ness…also a street bordering Fenway.

I think I was incorrect about NY and Lombard, not sure it’s an actual street name.

I’ll be there this weekend, and I’ll let you know what evidence I find!
Awesome, So will I!!!

Choice

It helps if you provide some description of what you see in an image. Otherwise we have no idea what you are trying to show.

gManTexas

It helps if you provide some description of what you see in an image. Otherwise we have no idea what you are trying to show.

I thought it was self explanatory. Look at the same color ovals and find resemblances/matches.

Choice

I thought it was self explanatory. Look at the same color ovals and find resemblances/matches.

Please see this very persuasive post:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=737&p=140807&hilit=south+pole#p140807

Fenix

Once is certainly better than none.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFTUtbn1RU

gManTexas

Please see this very persuasive post:
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=737&p=140807&hilit=south+pole#p140807

Yes it was entertaining the 1st time I read that.

Choice

Hey Choice,can you give me a link to the image 1 you are using. It is a much better resolution than the one I have been using?

Rviewer1

Hey Choice,can you give me a link to the image 1 you are using. It is a much better resolution than the one I have been using?

https://imgur.com/fWLGACL

Choice

View post on imgur.com

Thanks Choice! It looks much better than the one I was using.

Rock on, Treetops!
Thank you for doing that. Those are great photos.
I also like your idea about “East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet.” Preiss capitalized “Twain,” of course, but that could just be his sneakiness. A gift from a sister city in Asia is definitely a nice match for the twain giving their attention to the same thing.
I assume that from the hairpin curve near the spiral railing one can see Huntington Falls. Did you happen to notice whether you could also see Sutro Tower from that spot?

Rock on, Treetops!
Thank you for doing that. Those are great photos.
I also like your idea about “East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet.” Preiss capitalized “Twain,” of course, but that could just be his sneakiness. A gift from a sister city in Asia is definitely a nice match for the twain giving their attention to the same thing.
I assume that from the hairpin curve near the spiral railing one can see Huntington Falls. Did you happen to notice whether you could also see
Sutro
Tower from that spot?

I fully expected to have a clear view of the Falls from the hairpin, so I was surprised when I discovered that that little island in the NE arm of the lake does a good job of obscuring it.
On Sutro Tower: I’ve always been unhappy with this as a solution for “Not far away high posts are three”, because it’s clearly visible from many, many parts of the city. Referencing it as a locator just seems to say, “Hey, you’re still in San Francisco.” I also tend to read “Education and Justice for all to see” as further information about the “high posts”, and I don’t see a Sutro Tower connection to either. But yes, you have a nice view of it from all around the Stow Lake area.

I fully expected to have a clear view of the Falls from the hairpin, so I was surprised when I discovered that that little island in the NE arm of the lake does a good job of obscuring it.
On
Sutro
Tower: I’ve always been unhappy with this as a solution for “Not far away high posts are three”, because it’s clearly visible from many, many parts of the city. Referencing it as a locator just seems to say, “Hey, you’re still in San Francisco.” I also tend to read “Education and Justice for all to see” as further information about the “high posts”, and I don’t see a
Sutro
Tower connection to either. But yes, you have a nice view of it from all around the Stow Lake area.

Unknown

Unknown:
If the spiral is still there, it shouldn’t be hard to find. It must be somewhere along that staircase up Huntington Falls.

Very nicely done Oregonian.
The spiral fits the line theory, although not as precisely as the Cleveland solve. But it’s close enough.
North of everything is Fulton Street. Robert Fulton equals steamboats, which were most certainly objects of Twain’s attention. So I’d suggest north of the spiral is the best place to explore, probe, and eventually dig.

Unknown

Unknown:
If the spiral is still there, it shouldn’t be hard to find. It must be somewhere along that staircase up
Huntington
Falls.

Very nicely done Oregonian.
The spiral fits the line theory, although not as precisely as the Cleveland solve. But it’s close enough.
North of everything is Fulton Street. Robert Fulton equals steamboats, which were most certainly objects of Twain’s attention. So I’d suggest north of the spiral is the best place to explore, probe, and eventually dig.

@ 1:20 is some of the handrail
http://youtu.be/wjeseEdWH1Q?t=1m20s

Just got back from Stow Lake with a bunch of photos for everyone. You can click through to flickr for larger images. You might find a map of the Stow Lake area helpful. Here we go.
This is the exit at the back of the Japanese Tea Garden:
This is the view to the staircase in question, facing roughly SW from near the Tea Garden exit:
The ornament at the bottom of the stairs:
The view from the top of the stairs:
Standing at the top ornament, facing roughly north:
That path takes you right around the corner to this view of the NE-most point of Stow Lake. The Chinese Pavilion is visible from here, off behind some trees:
Now, over by Huntington Falls, here’s what that railing looks like:
The view from one of the Falls bridges, looking back NE towards where we came from:
Top of the Falls. From here we can see the dome and two towers of St. Ignatius Church, located on the USF campus:
Back at the base of the Falls, it’s a very short walk to the NW side of the Chinese Pavilion:
Here’s the April 15, 1981 dedication sign:
It reads:
—
The people of the City and County of San Francisco proudly accept this pavilion from the Honorable Teng Hui Lee, Mayor of our Sister City, Taipei, as a testament to the abiding friendship between the people of Taipei and San Francisco, on the Occasion of the Official dedication of the Golden Gate Pavilion.
We are grateful for this treasured addition to Golden Gate Park
[names]
On behalf of the people of Taipei, I present this Golden Gate Pavilion to the people of San Francisco as a confirmation of friendship and cultural exchange between our sister cities and to comemorate the struggle and contributions of the early Chinese settlers in California.
I extend our appreciation to the Honorable Dianne Feinstein, Mayor of San Francisco, the Board of Supervisors, City of San Francisco, Mr. Pius Lee, Chairman of the San Francisco-Taipei Sister City Committee, and the Chinese Community for their efforts and contributions toward the realization of this memorable gift.
Honorable Teng-Hui Lee
Mayor of Taipei, ROC
—
Railing detail, entering the Pavilion:
One of the dragon decorations:
Sign over the entrance:
This decoration is inside the Pavilion, behind the sign, and continues all the way around:
Plaque mounted on the table at the center of the Pavilion:
It reads:
—
Two sister cities were made, side by side and hand in hand. Is peoples’ well-being thus made.
Residing in this wide world. Cooperating closely from our hearts. The universal brotherhood is thus made.
A scenic spot in USA for ascending remained, easterly coming culture. A real friend can not by wanting in this wide world.
A great ocean on ROC for crossing lain, westerly looking from Golden Gate. The world although so wide becomes as near as in the neighborhood.
—
Here are the four columns that have writing on them:
NW side, left:
NW side, right:
SE side, left:
SE side, right:
Translations anyone?
One thought that occurred to me, and not for the first time, was that “Object of Twain’s attention” can be interpreted as referring not to Mark Twain, but to the opening lines of Kipling’s “Ballad of East and West”, which would suit this memorial to east-west friendship.

Choice

You “old timers” have been circle jerking eachother off for over a decade with nothing to show for except stains on your faces. Perhaps you should be open to new views and thoughts. So tired of you guys whining. Sooo unmanly!

Not sure this is going to win you any points around here. I have a lot of new ideas as well, but I always try to present them respectfully. You have to understand that many people have their own ideas of where the casques might be, how the puzzles are constructed, and possibly have thought about the very thing you are proposing, but rejected it initially.
While the forum has rapidly changed in the past several months, much to some “old timers” chagrin, the overall culture here is to be skeptical. Many, many ideas have been discussed and many empty theories and holes in ground later, it is natural to question where people are going with their thoughts.

Goldengate

How old are you? You sound like a petulant 14 year old…

That’s kinda mean, Goldengate…

He ain’t that old!

Spiritr

Great find! The Chegg study solutions right?
But all 11 balls in the image are
BLUE
, and they all sized differently.

Whoa, I think we may have solved a new clue: I just looked “blue balls” up in the dictionary, and there was a picture of
The Secret

drunknerds

Whoa, I think we may have solved a new clue: I just looked “blue balls” up in the dictionary, and there was a picture of
The Secret

Really you looked up “blue balls” DUDE you must be the A STUD, to have to look up “blue balls”
sorry couldn’t couldn’t
help it!

There’s a classic statistics problem with 11 white orbs. It’s so famous it’s literally the first thing that comes up when you google “11 white balls”
In it, it posits that 7 red balls and 11 white balls are placed in an urn. Then it gets statistically complicated so I won’t bother you with my fully-formed understanding of the problem.
I wonder, is there an urn in GGP?

drunknerds

There’s a classic statistics problem with 11 white orbs. It’s so famous it’s literally the first thing that comes up when you google “11 white balls”
In it, it posits that 7 red balls and 11 white balls are placed in an urn. Then it gets statistically complicated so I won’t bother you with my fully-formed understanding of the problem.
I wonder, is there an urn in GGP?

Great find! The Chegg study solutions right?
But all 11 balls in the image are
BLUE
, and they all sized differently.

Unknown

Unknown:
The Open Era of tennis began in 1968, when most world-class tournaments first allowed professional players as well as amateurs to enter. Prior to the Open Era, only amateurs could enter the world’s most prestigious tournaments, including the Grand Slams, leaving many of the top players of the day out of the competition. The distinction between professionals and amateurs had long been artificial and unfair, because many amateurs were receiving substantial compensation under the table. Once the governing bodies of tennis saw the light and allowed open competition, almost all of the top players became professionals. The quality of the major tournaments, the popularity of tennis, and the prize money for the players all surged strongly in response to the new Open Era rules.

Beside the long palm’s shadow
“Long palm” is the ancestor of tennis…might be a clue for the tennis courts at GGP (33 on the map).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longue_paume
Image 1 has various hints for 68. The fingers point at the 8th and 6th squares…
…and 68 is also suggested in the dragon’s coils…
1968 was the beginning of “Open” tennis.
Tennis racquet…?
I previously suggested SF’s Lafayette Park, straight down Clay from the RLS statue at Portsmouth Square Plaza, and this could also indicate the tennis courts at Lafayette. These have sand and a white house conveniently situated.
(Found a nice mosaic dragon in “Dragon Park” in Nashville by looking at the coords 86, 36…but I don’t suppose he’d be very popular.)

Dragon spikes

Yes, That is a great photo with the green Coppola building in the foreground. Did you take the photo?

prospector

Yes, That is a great photo with the green Coppola building in the foreground. Did you take the photo?

That’s actually a stock photo. In fact if you look at the top of that Columbus Tower/Sentinel Building, the roof line forms a V. Combined with I’s on each side of the Transamerica pyramid you get the upside down VII.

Choice

Choice, great photo….very interesting possibility. Nice find.

shecrab

I have been looking all day at Treasure Island. And I’ve found some really interesting things.

The only problem is that until recently, the entirety of treasure island has been a military base with a 24 hour guard at the front gate and no admittance without a reason for entry.
BP would not have been able to set foot on Treasure Island any time during the 1980s
nor would any treasure hunters been allowed there either.
Yerba Buena island is also a coast guard base, and there is not any place to stop your car and go exploring…
So while there has always been some great matches for TI as a casque resting place it is an impossibility.
The only thing Imagineable is a location that somehow has a view of TI from the location….

maltedfalcon

The only problem is that until recently, the entirety of treasure island has been a military base with a 24 hour guard at the front gate and no admittance without a reason for entry.
BP would not have been able to set foot on Treasure Island any time during the 1980s
nor would any treasure hunters been allowed there either.
Yerba Buena island is also a coast guard base, and there is not any place to stop your car and go exploring…
So while there has always been some great matches for TI as a casque resting place it is an impossibility.
The only thing Imagineable is a location that somehow has a view of TI from the location….

Not true. Only PART of TI was a military base. The rest was a tourist attraction and had been since 1940, since the fair.
My ex-husband was stationed there in the 70’s and we had friends who lived there. You could get onto the island with no trouble at all.
Remember, the base security in the 80’s was very open.
I should say this however—I don’t really think it’s buried ON the island, after my research last night. There just isn’t much open land. And no trees. There may not be any topsoil!

I have been looking all day at Treasure Island. And I’ve found some really interesting things.
http://www.sfmuseum.net/hist6/ti-lights.html
(read this whole article!)
You’ll see an arc of lights?
Citadel in the night?
Wind-swept halls?
Hmmm…..funny thing is, I’d never have suspected this verse for this location—but—the latitude and longitude of Treasure island are EXACT to the image: 37, 122, and when I started reading about it, some things just began to click together.
The island is man-made–weight and roots together saved the site? The bay area has fierce winds–and on Treasure Island, they are definitely a problem at times. The citadel-like buildings and the wind-swept halls of the 1939 Fair are well-documented. The “wingless bird ascended”? maybe The Sun Tower, which has been described as an “art-deco rocket”. Born of ancient dreams of flight? well, there’s plenty of aviation stuff there–including an aviation museum, a Naval Air Station, and the Fair had a bunch of exhibits of airplanes, flight-associated things….and the airport is nearby. White stone? All over the place. And so, oddly enough, is MICA! It was mixed in with the stucco on the Fair buildings to make them “glimmer” in the night lights!” This is the only other place I’ve seen mica mentioned. (another linking item with these verses maybe?)
I’m not nearly finished trying to see if there are any other tie-ins with this verse–but I’m working on it. Who knows–maybe THIS is the place. Wouldn’t it make a ton of sense? “Treasure” Island? (Like, uh, DUH…)
And…the obvious association with other verses, and other references: including “Treasure Island” by Stevenson? AND…there was a “Mark Twain House” at the World’s Fair…and a White House nearby….eerily enough, it’s almost like this one image sparks all the other verses–in smaller ways. Which, if you read through the intro in the book, ALSO makes sense–because the Pearl–the Chinese treasure–is the one that is mentioned last. It’s also diametrically opposed to New York, where BP lived—there is a wonderful synchronicity and symmetry here!
I don’t know if it’s on purpose or if it’s just a huge coincidence, but why not?
If there’s a “lane 222” there, I’m convinced.

Hmmm, I lived in Oakland in from 1969 to 1978 so I can only speak for those years.
I lived on Oak Knoll Navy Base and we often went to TI to shop at the base commissary.
The Gate to the base was just accross the spit that connected the TI to Yerba Buena.
The 1st building on the base was the one used for the airport in an Indiana Jones movie. That was base administration and it was behind the gate.
I dont remember any place accessible to tourists at all during that time
maybe it was changed during the 80s.  what exactly was accesible to tourists?

not quite a lane technically but interesting nonetheless
http://www.noehill.com/sf/landmarks/sf222.asp

I asked my older brother what he remembered, the exception would be people were allowed access to the museum in building 1
but thats as far as they could go.

The museum. That is what I was referring to.

shecrab

The museum. That is what I was referring to.

“Seen here by eyes of old”
The road that runs in front of the museum:  Avenue of the Palms

I replied to the author re her solve several months ago. No response. I had issue with her bouncing all over the place for sweet smell and Twain. I also don’t see a clear connection between GGP and immigration of asians, since Angel igland is a predominant feature of the painting.
I’ve heard the Lincoln connection to the rock in the wiki before. However elf/Tiburon combo makes sense to me.

I
replied to the author re her solve several months ago. No response.
I
had issue with her bouncing all over the place for sweet smell and Twain.
I
also don’t see a clear connection between GGP and immigration
of
asians, since Angel igland is a predominant feature
of
the painting.
I
‘ve heard the Lincoln connection to the rock in the wiki before. However elf/Tiburon combo makes sense to me.

I replied to the author re her solve several months ago. No response. I had issue with her bouncing all over the place for sweet smell and Twain. I also don’t see a clear connection between GGP and immigration of asians, since
Angel
igland is a predominant feature of the painting.
I’ve heard the Lincoln connection to the rock in the wiki before. However elf/Tiburon combo makes sense to me.

Choice

elf/Tiburon combo makes sense to me.

Belvedere:

i was surfing and searching today and came across this entry from earlier this year. I’m not as familiar as (maybe) I should be with all of the random theories out there, so this one might be redundant or not. I don’t buy half of the connections she makes, but it can be enlightening to see how other people think riddles should work.
http://www.jennifermoss.com/byron-preis … 1-verse-7/

i
was surfing and searching today and came across this entry from earlier this year.
I
‘m not as familiar as (maybe)
I
should be with all
of
the random theories out there, so this one might be redundant or not.
I
don’t buy half
of
the connections she makes, but it can be enlightening to see how other people think riddles should work.
http://www.jennifermoss.com/byron-preis … 1-verse-7/

My mistake the lat lon in the pix are  other numbers , go read the thread,
you can read all about the numbers 37 38 122 123 which actually feature quite prominantly in the image
These numbers when taken as latitude and longitude form a bounding box that pretty much emcompasses the city / peninsula of San Francisco.
Now since the we have lat and long numbers elsewhere in the image, the question has always been what is she trying to show by where she is pointing
if you look at her fingers she is obviously pointing at something.
remember we reverse the image to make it match the park.
so her left finger now points at the line below 3 blocks and her right finger points at the line below 4 blocks,
I was suggesting perhaps this indicates the number 34
and 34th ave goes straight north to Lincoln ave, china beach, baker beach and lincoln park,
it also takes you to the area that is shown as a map on the forehead of the lady.
lastly  if you were in that area and you could see the Ghirradelli sign, (i dont think you can, but if you could, you woud be looking at the back of it…

My mistake the lat lon in the pix are  other numbers , go read the thread,
you can read all about the numbers 37 38 122 123 which actually feature quite prominantly in the image
These numbers when taken as latitude and longitude form a bounding box that pretty much emcompasses the city / peninsula
of
San Francisco.
Now since the we have lat and long numbers elsewhere in the image, the question has always been what is she trying to show by where she is pointing
if you look at her fingers she is obviously pointing at something.
remember we reverse the image to make it match the park.
so her left finger now points at the line below 3 blocks and her right finger points at the line below 4 blocks,
I
was suggesting perhaps this indicates the number 34
and 34th ave goes straight north to Lincoln ave, china beach, baker beach and lincoln park,
it also takes you to the area that is shown as a map on the forehead
of
the lady.
lastly  if you were in that area and you could see the Ghirradelli sign, (
i
dont think you can, but if you could, you woud be looking at the back
of
it…

using those as lat/long put you out in the atlantic ocean, not san fran.

Hey Goldengate, do you have a detailed period map of the GGB/Presidio area you could post? I think you could make a correlation between the woman and the map of the area if you consider the two on/off ramp deltas as her hands pointing.

fyi the presidio was an active duty army base at the time, surrounded by a barb wire fence and off limits to all civilians.

maltedfalcon

fyi the presidio was an active duty army base at the time, surrounded by a barb wire fence and off limits to all civilians.

There are points of interest in the area not within Presidio, i.e. the 3 gun posts at Battery Godfrey at 7 O’clock from the deltas. Or Battery Boutelle.

Thanks Goldengate. Here’s a bit of similarity I can see right away.

a swirl is such a common occurrence in nature, architecture, art and monuments as to be totally useless as a clue.
That very same section has been used to show JFK blvd, Lombard St. various monument and garden paths…

Wanted to see what different ideas we have about the symbols on the border of her dress.
While I do not believe they represent shapes of structures or a map representation (I could be wrong), could they be some sort of rebus code? Are the symbols truly symbols, i.e. masonic symbols, Greek symbols, etc… that have a specific meaning or are they shapes we will see on structures like what I’ve posted before. Any relevance to solving the puzzle? Any other thoughts as to what these mean?
Upside down Roman numerals – possibly representative of Roman numerals on a clock.
X A –> (possibly a (A) cross (X), across, running north but first… with the X being a symbol for crossing i.e. railroad crossing) Looks to be a capital X and a capital A
The other symbols which seem to be elusive…
I did see someone post awhile back that the square and triangle symbol near the G in image 1 were also in image 11. Anyone that has researched or followed the image 11 thread come across what these might be?

Someone posted for image 1 a while ago that they were topographic map symbols. I thought it was a good match. The square with a dot is a boundary marker and the triangle with a dot is a horizontal marker.

Lots of good points, thanks for addressing my theory.
I’m really convinced by the opportunity for some old stable tree growth to match the painting, especially at a 45 degree angle as the parking lot on a standard north-is-up map matches the shape of the woman’s head.  I agree there’s eucalyptus trees in the area, but the particular tree group I’m focused on is Monterey Cypress, slow growing and established in the 1930’s tract of planting.
Where did we leave the story about that terminus marker?  I thought someone said it was missing at some point, found in a ditch, and is now in some old professor’s back yard…it’s replacement ended up being placed in it’s current position at the edge of the lot as part of the lots reconstruction.  We are sorely lacking in details on this area, eh?
I’m sorry for the bad logic, but the Twain’s attention = pen, and the idea that we go in that general direction of a PEN (Alcatraz) with approximate precision, along with the idea that the verse may begin with a good view of Alcatraz and the “Gh” of the chocolate factory, seems like it pulls a ton of ideas together.
As for precision on drawing a line from pole and post to Alcatraz or a specific bench, I’m not sure about that either.  It looks like a rough approximation at best and I think that’s just the point.  We get our precision in this case from the image where it presents the rectanglar shape with the pearl at it’s end, so I’m willing to bet the casque is buried directly off the long end of a bench.  I think the picture I grabbed off streetview is a lucky break.
Just now musing over a mention of Mercury/Hermes in the Odyssey in regard to sweet smelling cypress:
http://books.google.com/books?id=NMz5OB … CD8Q6AEwCQ
Interesting, the story is about Odysseus being held aggajnst his will on an island for 7 years.  I keep wondering if there’s room to fit some Greek references in these puzzles.

Those are Eucalyptus trees.
They grow extremely fast.
in 1980s the seaward side of the road was being kept clear of trees (except for the torrey pines)  check the history images on google earth
and the trees on the leeward side of the road were kept cut low.
So as not to interfere with the view from  the palace.
I don’t think your trees were there at all during the 1980s
sometime in the 90s they stopped trimming the trees and planted lots more. (erosion control??, more natural?)
basically the only good views now are between the trees…
Just to say again your mark twain – alcatraz link leaves me cold.  The “Pen” wasn’t created until 20 some years after his death. so the
penitentiary was never an object of his attention.
And you cannot see it from Lincoln Park.  However you can see both the Golden Gate and Fort Point, both of which were actual objects of Twain’s attention he wrote about them both.
And you can also see (in another direction,) Downtown SF, another object of Twain’s Attention.  Your theory that we should ignore those right in front of us for an illogical word play doesn’t make sense.
Also to this point we have no proof that the Lincoln Highway post was in place during the 1980s
lastly if you drew a line through the Door and the pole, the lincoln highway marker would not be along it .
if you ran the line through the marker it would miss your bench by 30-40 feet.

Delilah84

Possible major update for this image!
I hope this can help!
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=7362

Not sure what you are getting at, or how this is a possible update. It is almost a circular reference.
While I’m excited about new ideas, I must say that under the Image threads, there should be a positive match to physical objects or exact matches to the said Image to be valid. It doesn’t make sense to post a bunch of random images of objects that roughly describe the image and say “a major update”. Please remember that there are years of research that have gone into this.

catherwood

i was surfing and searching today and came across this entry from earlier this year. I’m not as familiar as (maybe) I should be with all of the random theories out there, so this one might be redundant or not. I don’t buy half of the connections she makes, but it can be enlightening to see how other people think riddles should work.
http://www.jennifermoss.com/byron-preis … 1-verse-7/

Hello Catherwood,
I am new to this site and your’s is the first post I have replied to on this site.
I have been looking at all the post around the internet after I studied the image and verse. I was compelled by Jennifer Moss and her ideas. I had a lot of fun looking up everything and reading. I didn’t look at anyone’s ideas until I really looked at the images Preiss developed with the artist he commissioned to paint the images. I saw many things that just popped out at me. I am grateful for all of the posts on the City of San Francisco and Golden Gate Park. That makes so much sense. I don’t really like all the bla bla bla about who is finding what, where and when. But that is ok I just scan over them. Why do they do that?
I was trying to get on the PBworks site but I think it is full. There is a fellow on there that is digging with permits. How do you get a permit to dig? Have you dug anywhere?