Unknown

Unknown:
so can anyone clarify?

Search is a wonderful thing:
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FRSTPRZFA had 567 posts on Q4T, but the overwhelming majority were in regard to “The Whistle Pig”, and to a lesser extent “A Treasure’s Trove”. She posted less than 20 times in this forum, mostly in the Verse 10 and Image 12 Threads, which makes sense since she admitted to being from NY. So she was an established poster, who only had a passing interest in this puzzle, and not a drive-by as has been suggested by others.
Therefore, I have every reason to believe that:
-She, in fact sent BP an email about Central Park as a possible casque location.
-He, in fact answered truthfully when he said that there was no casque in Central Park.
-fox’s post (above) accurately reports that exchange.
There is no casque in Central Park, NY.

Unknown

Unknown:
so can anyone clarify?

Search is a wonderful thing:
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=
central
+
park
&t=754&sf=msgonly&ch=-1&start=45
FRSTPRZFA had 567 posts on Q4T, but the overwhelming majority were in regard to “The Whistle Pig”, and to a lesser extent “A Treasure’s Trove”. She posted less than 20 times in this forum, mostly in the Verse 10 and Image 12 Threads, which makes sense since she admitted to being from NY. So she was an established poster, who only had a passing interest in this puzzle, and not a drive-by as has been suggested by others.
Therefore, I have every reason to believe that:
-She, in fact sent BP an email about
Central
Park
as a possible casque location.
-He, in fact answered truthfully when he said that there was no casque in
Central
Park
.
-fox’s post (above) accurately reports that exchange.
There is no casque in
Central
Park
, NY.

Euhirudinea

Search is a wonderful thing:
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=central+park&t=754&sf=msgonly&ch=-1&start=45
FRSTPRZFA had 567 posts on Q4T, but the overwhelming majority were in regard to “The Whistle Pig”, and to a lesser extent “A Treasure’s Trove”. She posted less than 20 times in this forum, mostly in the Verse 10 and Image 12 Threads, which makes sense since she admitted to being from NY. So she was an established poster, who only had a passing interest in this puzzle, and not a drive-by as has been suggested by others.
Therefore, I have every reason to believe that:
-She, in fact sent BP an email about Central Park as a possible casque location.
-He, in fact answered truthfully when he said that there was no casque in Central Park.
-fox’s post (above) accurately reports that exchange.
There is no casque in Central Park, NY.

Yes, I am aware of that. I was just curious about a post further on by fox saying that he was the one that received the email from BP. That was the question. Perhaps the wording is just a bit confusing. Just curious.

Euhirudinea

Search is a wonderful thing:
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=
central
+
park
&t=754&sf=msgonly&ch=-1&start=45
FRSTPRZFA had 567 posts on Q4T, but the overwhelming majority were in regard to “The Whistle Pig”, and to a lesser extent “A Treasure’s Trove”. She posted less than 20 times in this forum, mostly in the Verse 10 and Image 12 Threads, which makes sense since she admitted to being from NY. So she was an established poster, who only had a passing interest in this puzzle, and not a drive-by as has been suggested by others.
Therefore, I have every reason to believe that:
-She, in fact sent BP an email about
Central
Park
as a possible casque location.
-He, in fact answered truthfully when he said that there was no casque in
Central
Park
.
-fox’s post (above) accurately reports that exchange.
There is no casque in
Central
Park
, NY.

Yes, I am aware of that. I was just curious about a post further on by fox saying that he was the one that received the email from BP. That was the question. Perhaps the wording is just a bit confusing. Just curious.

Unknown

Unknown:
I was just curious about a post further on by fox saying that he was the one that received the email from BP. That was the question.

Only fox knows for sure, but my guess is that he is referencing the same email. The one that BP sent to FRSTPRZFA, the one she forwarded to him, and the one that he posted on this forum with her email address redacted. I agree that the wording in the second post is confusing, but the message is perfectly clear. And given the source, perfectly accurate IMO. There is no casque in Central Park, NY.
Which won’t stop people from searching in Central Park because…clues.

Unknown

Unknown:
I was just curious about a post further on by fox saying that he was the one that received the email from BP. That was the question.

Only fox knows for sure, but my guess is that he is referencing the same email. The one that BP sent to FRSTPRZFA, the one she forwarded to him, and the one that he posted on this forum with her email address redacted. I agree that the wording in the second post is confusing, but the message is perfectly clear. And given the source, perfectly accurate IMO. There is no casque in
Central
Park
, NY.
Which won’t stop people from searching in
Central
Park
because…clues.

Well, it is a bit difficult to rule out anything just based on a he said, she said source without much to back it up but reputation.

Unknown

Unknown:
Well, it is a bit difficult to rule out anything just based on a he said, she said source

According to the prevailing wisdom, it’s not just difficult, it’s downright impossible. Which, in the absolute is true as far as it goes. But in this case, the provenance seems solid and reliable, and that’s good enough for me.
But that’s just my opinion.

https://imgur.com/a/YfSj8
thoughts on an image match?

NYCNative

https://imgur.com/a/YfSj8
thoughts on an image match?

To what, that fighting wave Griffin? I don’t really see a resemblance, but maybe if they were side by side it would pop out at me.

drunknerds

To what, that fighting wave Griffin? I don’t really see a resemblance, but maybe if they were side by side it would pop out at me.

That is my thought on it. I am not sure if I am being biased or it is what it is

What if you took the two hooves behind it, rotated them, then put them below the griffin head?

I’m sad this image wasn’t on EU. Didn’t JJP say they tried to do something with the circles that didn’t translate to print? Would have been nice to get another shot at those three seemingly-unattainable clues

drunknerds

What if you took the two hooves behind it, rotated them, then put them below the griffin head?

Possible…just impossible to say it is an exact match since the waves are so abstract. However, if this is a match it also strengthens my theory of the whirring sound in the summer.

I think this is what we are seeing. It’s a pretty good match, even if it is abstract.

OH I SEE
You are saying the whole thing matches. Not just the wave griffin, but the wake in front of it as well is another match for the horizontal dragon. Now it’s looking a lot more plausible to my always-doubting eyes.
Are the four vertical dots in the image there also in the merry go round thing? For me those oddly even dots have always seemed like the key

Can someone with the actual book try a couple of things? I think we need to hold the page to a mirror at an angle until the water swirls “straightens out”. I believe there are letters in there. I tried with puppet warp in Photoshop, but I want to see if you can see this stuff in an old fashioned mirror trick. When I print the image with my inkjet, it looks like garbage.
There’s also the following:
74, 41(reversed), and then a 73 in the wave. This gives us the coordinates, not that it matters at this point.

I can see the link,
and it would be a stronger arguement if the bottom
half of the hair (turned upside down so the top
of the head) turned the same way as the bottom half of
the state – which it turns the other way.
I am comparing this to the outline of Illinois in the
Image 5.
Close, but skeptical.

boogieman

Try this:  this should clarify the hair NJ/NY map issue nobody has responded to.
http://www.freewebs.com/patcash/nycharbor.htm#

I cant see the pic either…

Unknown

Unknown:
Egbert, if you are still around, I have a proposed solution for one of the verses for New York. It is a bit of a stretch and I have to make guesses about the area as I can not find anything to show me a picture of the area. The majority of the solution will have to come from being at the place, but I did come up with a possible starting point.Or if there is anyone else who wants to check out the New York area, I will gladly post my idea in hopes that I may, in some way be right…Thanks to all

I’m in the New York area and plan to be in Manhattan on Saturday.  Whatcha got?

Hmmm.  I must have missed rewand’s message.  My workplace is 20 minutes from NYC, so I can go there any time, if Shawn isn’t able to find anything.

Anyone know what kind of cat this is?  Or another animal?

The road around this corner of the island has a few characteristics, but isn’t a perfect match to the skirt line.  The lighthouse is actually in the same place as the gemstone proportionally speaking.
Here I was thinking along the lines of Keats being buried in Rome “Written in water” and thought the San Juan Island National Historic Park shared a boot like shape to Italy.  I circled Rome thinking it might be a clue to the general area in the park.  I’m still trying to see the surf as this shape also, but now I can’t help seeing that dancing bear.  GRrrrr.
Edit: adding in a final bit about the abalone that was ever popular in this area of San Juan’s Puget Sound, I believe the colors and circular shapes are to represent abalone and the rare pearls they make, here in the middle is an actual photo of those pearls.  The seagull looks like it’s trying to eat the anomalous pearl with the halo.

also, what if the buffalo i see is really just a bull, then we have the white bears that everyone sees in the white water, so we have
the bulls and bears for the financial district
A topaz is the
Russian prize
:
The royal sunstone,
frozen
fire.
russian prize
makes me think of seward…………….he bought
alaska from Russia
——————
a russian prize
frozen
———sounds like alaska too
and the
white bears,
they called the buying of alaska for johnson, the
polar bear garden
the right hand from the image looks like seward’s hand holding the quill (in madison square park), but you (or i can’t) can’t really see the left hand.
madison square park is straight up from the financial district (i think)
http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image … 7da89c7986
http://www.nycgovparks.org/parks/madiso … /monuments
admiral farragut, with the waves on the monument
and general worth is there:  “…glass baubles possessed the same worth…”
and broadway…………gaze north toward the isle of B
frozen fire also makes me think of ice skating…….madison square garden?
i’m gonna be gone to NC for over a month!  have fun guys!

I’ve been calling it a seagull…now I think it’s an (s)Eagle.
Was just speaking to a friend of mine who told me a cool story about his bike trip around San Juan Island around 1995.  He said there were lots of abolone related things around town and there was a time when he was kicking around a hackysac and a huge Eagle swooped down into the water behind him and pulled into the sky just as quickly.  It was COOL.  He says he’ll be happy to go for another ride up there, but it won’t be anytime soon.

The eagle head has been associated with the Chrysler building, and the rounded arch (as opposed to a Gothic arch) could be connected to The Cloisters, a museum of medieval art in Fort Tryon
Park
.  Perhaps the colored spots represent mosaic.  Now, I do not know New York, so you New Yorkers may be able to eliminate my theory as rubbish.  Pic 12 may be connected to verse 5, so I will post the theory there and y’all can scrutinize it.
–Johann

The eagle head has been associated with the Chrysler building, and the rounded arch (as opposed to a Gothic arch) could be connected to The Cloisters, a museum of medieval art in Fort Tryon Park.  Perhaps the colored spots represent mosaic.  Now, I do not know New York, so you New Yorkers may be able to eliminate my theory as rubbish.  Pic 12 may be connected to verse 5, so I will post the theory there and y’all can scrutinize it.
–Johann

just a thought based on the GGpark map in pix 1
is it possible the image we all thought was a single World Trade Center tower is actually a map view of North
Central
Park
?

just a thought based on the GGpark map in pix 1
is it possible the image we all thought was a single World Trade Center tower is actually a map view of North Central Park?

hello again, here goes post 3
i believe that the 3 towers you see in the picture is of ellis island…. look at the pic and tell me what you think
http://www.historychannel.com/ellisisland/index2.html
Now ellis island has 4 towers, but mainly only 3 are seeable if you travel ship, like if you were an immagrant
i am also real excited about the possibility that image 12 goes with verse 8….please read my post on verse 8….i really thought that the casque itslef was on liberty island…..but bpruess shot that down, saying “there is no treasure on liberty island”….. but we are getting close…..read my post on “verse 8” and lemme mnow if it makes sense…..
Hoping to help someone get em some treasure
your treasure huntin pal from indiana

falcon, I think the confirmers seen in P12 point to NYC and the confirmers seen in P1 are very good matches for GGP.

Being from Chicago, I followed the trail with the pic and verse, and I do remember an article so many years ago.  I just wish I could get hold of the old article.

Well, I cased what I thought was a potential dig site in NYC – basically, it looks like a dead end.  I thought it may have been somewhere on Roosevelt Island, especially the southern tip, using Verse 10.  I figured the shadow of the grey giant was possibly the UN building or the Chrysler Building (from the gargoyle part of Image 12).  I thought the “cars abound” referenced the cable cars on the tram that opened in ’76.  The southern tip of the island seemed to form a small letter v, and if you looked down (river), you can see “simple roots in rhapsodic man’s soil”, meaning the small tributaries that extended into Brooklyn from the East River (Gershwin was born there).  And Charles Dickens wrote about the Octagon Tower and the former insane asylum on Roosevelt Island, formerly known as Blackwell’s Island, in American Notes.  Gazing north at the Isle of B could have meant either looking north toward the island itself, or toward the Blackwell’s Island Lighthouse at the northern tip.  Anyway, I spent Election Day walking the entire length of the riverwalk after searching the southern tip area, looking far and wide for the nearby sign that the natives speak of Dickens.  There was no plaque or sign or memorial anywhere to be found, not even at the lighthouse.  Although the southern tip looked promising, as it’s basically a small park, it seems as though a lot has changed about it in the last 24 years or whatever (gated fences, no public access to ruins located there, etc.).  It’s possible there could have been markers or a sign there at one point, but basically, if the key is there, it would be impossible now to find it.  Anyway, I’m starting to think the Niagara Falls thing could work, but there are 2 other spots in NYC I’m going to check out 1st.

The clock at Fort Hamilton High School does not strike me as the same one in the Image. The Image only has 4 numerals, and the clock has 12. There is a band around the Fort Hamilton clock, but not in the Image. Also, the hands are different. Does anyone know if the Fort Hamilton clock that is there now, is the same one as was there in 1981?

Frisco

…it’s just that you can’t really gaze north at an “isle of B” from Battery Park.

Or can you?

Frisco

…it’s just that you can’t really gaze north at an “isle of B” from Battery
Park
.

Or can you?

One can gaze *toward* any island from anywhere, I suppose. But if we’re talking Belmont Island to the northeast, across the entire island of Manhattan, it seems like there would be better landmarks to use if the intent was to get someone gazing in that direction. Manhattan isn’t exactly north-oriented, so aligning oneself toward Belmont Island from Battery Park would be nigh impossible, even for someone who knew exactly where it was. It just feels wrong to me. YMMV, of course. If someone finds some strong matches to Manhattan, I wouldn’t ignore that, but until then I’ll continue to look in Georgie’s soil.

One can gaze *toward* any island from anywhere, I suppose. But if we’re talking Belmont Island to the northeast, across the entire island of Manhattan, it seems like there would be better landmarks to use if the intent was to get someone gazing in that direction. Manhattan isn’t exactly north-oriented, so aligning oneself toward Belmont Island from Battery
Park
would be nigh impossible, even for someone who knew exactly where it was. It just feels wrong to me. YMMV, of course. If someone finds some strong matches to Manhattan, I wouldn’t ignore that, but until then I’ll continue to look in Georgie’s soil.

Frisco

Haven’t gotten much further on George Curtis, but he writes a lot of poetry, speaks often of the Fay (at least in his book “Lotus-Eating”), and has written essays on many of the other people I’ve run across while researching the other 11 casques.

Good research. You have a good starting point, there are a lot of matches in that area of lower Manhattan in image and verse. Getting on a boat doesn’t see the way to go…remember “Ride the man of oz” was a pretty specific clue to take a boat, we don’t see that here. I could be totally wrong, just making an observation. Good work tho!

Unknown

Unknown:
remember “Ride the man of oz” was a pretty specific clue to take a boat

Except the only people who were going to Roanoke Island by boat in 1981 were fishermen. The ferries that you are alluding to were out of commission, having been replaced by bridges several decades earlier. So, I’m pretty certain that “ride” in this context just means “drive”, given that it is 16 miles from the Wright Memorial (the two friends of Octave) to Fort Raleigh (Dark Forest).

decibalnyc

Good research. You have a good starting point, there are a lot of matches in that area of lower Manhattan in image and verse. Getting on a boat doesn’t see the way to go…remember “Ride the man of oz” was a pretty specific clue to take a boat, we don’t see that here. I could be totally wrong, just making an observation. Good work tho!

Curtis High School is in Staten Island, so a boat would be necessary. Unless the “gray giant” we start at is the Verrazano.
I don’t think BP is always overt with his travel suggestions. I’m not entirely off of Manhattan being a possibility, though–it’s just that you can’t really gaze north at an “isle of B” from Battery Park.

decibalnyc

Good research. You have a good starting point, there are a lot of matches in that area of lower Manhattan in image and verse. Getting on a boat doesn’t see the way to go…remember “Ride the man of oz” was a pretty specific clue to take a boat, we don’t see that here. I could be totally wrong, just making an observation. Good work tho!

Curtis High School is in Staten Island, so a boat would be necessary. Unless the “gray giant” we start at is the Verrazano.
I don’t think BP is always overt with his travel suggestions. I’m not entirely off of Manhattan being a possibility, though–it’s just that you can’t really gaze north at an “isle of B” from Battery
Park
.

Personally, it will be difficult to sway me from the Ferry Building on Ellis Island as the match for the Image 12 bird, particularly when you put it together with the context of the other clues in the image (The outline of the Ellis Island harbor in the lower left pane, et al.)

Nice finds guys!  McCarren Park intrigues me.  I found these pics of some bronze eagles that just returned to the park this year (they were removed almost 30 years ago).  It’s not an exact match, but if you remove the opened lower jaw of the beak in image 12, it’s a lot closer.

Outside is the small public garden called Green Dome Garden. I think this is a picture from inside the garden.
Lots of shrubs for hiding in if you look at Google Street view.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/imjustsayin/188139791
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1144900@N22/pool/

eagles at fort green too, NY has lots of eagles

Just a “what if”
It seems the dark rectangle has been assumed to be one of the twin towers…
What has us thinking this, wouldn’t there be 2 in the image?
Then I got to thinking… there wouldn’t be 2 if the angle of view put one behind the other.

good point cormac!

bigmattyh

Holy… crap. I agree with everything you just said.
The eagle is definitely a match. It’s possible that it’s meant just to be a marker for NYC, which I think is okay in this case, since the book is so heavily themed with immigration.

Wouldn’t it be more likely that the fairy’s resemblance to Lady Liberty is the marker for NYC and the bird is a specific match to a known sculpture at a distinct location that is backed up by another clue in the image (the red outline of the Ellis Island harbor)?
The “red herring” here, I think, when considering the known depths of Preiss’ trickery, would be that you’d make the NYC connection with Lady Liberty and think the rectangle is the profile of one of the twin towers.  It’s not until you dig deeper and connect the red outline to Ellis Island, and then confirm with the bird sculpture once you’re there.

I see that twin tower analogue.  If that’s the intent, maybe it’s a hint about twin things, though I doubt you’d like my suggestion that it applies to the other Lady Liberty statue near Alki Beach in Washington:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ankneyd/1392806866/
.
I have an afterthought using Verse 9, similar to Ponce’s first landing in St. Augustine, Alki Beach has a memorial to the first landing of the “white man”, the Birthplace of Seattle monument.

erexere

I think the fact that the bird is so similar to the Ellis bird is a huge step forward.  The natural inclination would be to think the casque is very close to where that detailed visual is found, but everything about burying something on Ellis seems wrong, which poses a new question: why use THOSE eagles?
I suspect there’s an intrinsic connection to be found that has to do with the whole process of being a tourist, buying a ferry ticket, and visiting a historic monument.  The Ellis Island Ferry may have been Preiss’ closest to home template to build that particular portion of his visual puzzle for the purpose of inference.

Holy… crap. I agree with everything you just said.
The eagle is definitely a match. It’s possible that it’s meant just to be a marker for NYC, which I think is okay in this case, since the book is so heavily themed with immigration.

From the Brooklyn side of the Manhattan Bridge. If you look through the lower arch. The empire state building is perfectly framed. I was wondering if this works with other bridges in NYC.

Let me write the answer on this Möbius strip and send it to you.

Siskel and I were at this church several years ago, trying to find a match for Image 12.  If you look at Image 12, you will see that there are small “bubbles” above each onion dome, so it does not match the silhouette.  Because of that, we did not look more carefully at the church, but that window is incredible.  I really like it.  I think this is the closest match so far.

I think a conglomeration of windows too. Notice that the lower curve is different in the image where it meets the vertical. One is straighter.

wk

I just found this church too. The window matches the curved outline and dividers at the top of image 12. I never realised that the dividers are at a slight angle.
Another confirmation is that the church is in the location of the carnation flower head if you equate the streets N 12th St and Union Avenue to the exact angle of the stem of the flower.

wow i had the wrong addy,
228 North 12th Street Brooklyn, New York 11211
http://goo.gl/maps/EswQs

Without knowing much of the area in question (boogie…sure would love your input here) I think I am going to have to chime in here.
This is the best match so far for our church. Not exact but pretty darn close in my opinion. And right across the street from a heavily treed park with plenty of concealment for burying casques. But first back to the church.
-LoTJ for this image:  “A Topaz is the Russian prize:
The royal sunstone, frozen fire.”
That sure fits nicely since we are standing outside of the russian orthodox cathedral of the transfiguration of our lord.
– Now let us look at the church itself…more precisely, the northeastern face of the building on 12th St which faces the park.
Look at the shape of the large stained glass window. It looks like “conglomeration” of images in P12. It even has the larger rounded top panes on the right and left sides. These areas have been called color blind tests but I think I remember someone suggestion stained glass as well. The top middle sections aren’t right though. The left middle of P12 is a maroonish square atop a yellowish square. Look at the church…a maroonish brown roof atop a yellowish church. The right middle rectangle of blue????? No idea. In the center of this large window is an angel whose head is “almost” where our Statue of Liberty head is in P12.  Going to street view in google maps will show this window in much better detail. Now look at the bottom left…the plain grey rectangle. Look at the front of the church. Running down the face of the church on either side of the arched stained glass window are large plain grey rectangles.
Here is another view of the window closer up:
Interesting side note. It appears that the other large stained glass windows are not broken down with the larger rounded rectangles as is the window facing the park. See here:
It even has a bird…not near as good of a match as either Ellis Island or Chrysler building.
Now, getting back to the park. Directly across from the church is a small triangular shaped section of the park. It doesn’t look like it contains much except for a bush, a large pine tree (perhaps decorated during Christmas) and something that Boogie might like. It was at an item exactly like this, but in a different park, that Boogie and I based our dig location from. There are numerous pictures of McCarren Park where the domes of the Cathedral are visible from also. What I don’t like about it is that it seems to be pretty much devoid of statues, plaques, etc…
In the section titled “The Passage to the New World”, these russian fair folk were called the Vazily, Leshy, Poleviki, Domivye, Vily, and Ruskalki. Looking at the map of their departure, these fair folk came from Poland, Russia, Hungary and Tartary. Now, look at the history of this Russian Orthodox Church. It was founded in 1880 when “The founders of this parish came from Galicia, a crown land of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, located in the southeastern section of today’s Poland, north of the Carpathian Mountains.”
http://www.roct.org/orthodox-church-history-brooklyn-new-york/
Force fit? Who knows. But these things sure line up. If this isn’t the correct church, I truly believe it is these types of things we need to match in P12

Hey guys – I’m Siskel’s cousin, new to the game.  I’m casing a potential dig site this weekend, somewhere in NYC.  Stay tuned.

thought everyone gave up

be assured guys that we have not given up.
sometimes for me real life intrudes and we have to lay low for a while.
wilhouse

Unknown

Unknown:
I am very new to this hunt, and thought I’d start with Image 12 because I live in New York.  I apologize if this idea has been thrown out and rejected before, but I noticed that only this and image 1 have the domed shape on the top.  At least insofar as image 12 is concerned, I think this might indicate a bridge.  If you look at the Verranzano bridge, the cut out portion of the bridge support is
exactly
the same shape as image 12.  If there is some significance to this, it could suggest that the casque is buried either in Staten Island or Brooklyn (the boroughs at the opposite ends of the bridge).  Don’t know if this is helpful at all, but thought I’d mention it.

If it hasn’t already been pointed out Verse 5 starts out with “Lane Two twenty two” and could be (among other things) Lane 2, 22 or Lane B, V — Verranzano Bridge.
Somewhat of a reach?…probably.

Here is a picture of the bridge support in question:
http://www.nyc-photo-gallery.com/Verrazano_02.htm

Check out this week’s issue of Time Magazine — our bird is on the cover.

yup….
http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641 … 11,00.html

Ellis Island                            image12
No offense, but these birds look more alike than the Chrysler bird.
Not sure what we are really looking for with this bird.  Symbol?  Exact match?

Perhaps the right way to consider this image is to see the window framed within the picture as a picture representation of the frame narrative style or a story within a story.
We have a bird in the window and a woman holding a white rose. In Oscar Wilde’s short story, the Nightingale and the Rose, there is a passionate story about a bird who holds its breast against a thorn of a rose bush which has been chilled white, but will become red if the the bird sings to the moonlight.

Unknown

Unknown:
Although the sign
Nearby
Speaks of Indies native

Re: Prospect Park, maybe the sign could have been on a plant in the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. (The Shakespeare garden might connect with “him of Hard word”, though it’s not obvious how.)
(To recap, Prospect Park also has an eagle on the Dongan Oak monument, a replica Liberty at the Brooklyn Museum, and a location due south of Belmont Island.)

Unknown

Unknown:
Although the sign
Nearby
Speaks of Indies native

Re: Prospect
Park
, maybe the sign could have been on a plant in the Brooklyn Botanic Garden. (The Shakespeare garden might connect with “him of Hard word”, though it’s not obvious how.)
(To recap, Prospect
Park
also has an eagle on the Dongan Oak monument, a replica Liberty at the Brooklyn Museum, and a location due south of Belmont Island.)

This is how I see image 12 so far (conjoined with verse 10):
> Lower left corner pictogram in the ‘stained glass’ is the United Nations. This lines up to the “grey giant” in verse 10.
> In the folds of her dress that hang down is a lion’s face – which I would place as one of the lions flanking the New York Public Library.
> The head of the seagull is a Chrysler Building eagle. It’s not exact, but close.
So far all of these are in the same general vicinity: East 40-44th Street, east of 5th avenue.
What throws me off:
> The “statue of liberty” face. If this is the Statue of Liberty we are now in lower manhattan, which combined with the seagull puts us in a very different location than midtown.
> The seagull – that suggests being close to the water – that would make the “path” from verse 10 perhaps a riverwalk?
> The Russian or Greek Orthodox Cathedral – I was certain this was St Nicholas on E 97th street. But in the context of the other landmarks it doesn’t add up logistically.
> If the “grey giant” is the United Nations –  in its shadow places the “UN campus” and promendade into question. If so this access has been closed to public for some time and post-9/11 will probably not return anytime soon. Does anyone know if this area was accessible when the book was written? That is hard information to come by.
a little on verse 10:
> “the grey giant” might be the UN but it might be the old New York TImes building (W43rd, NY TImes aka the Grey Lady)
> “the sign nearby speaks of Indies native” is Alexander Hamilton. Buried at Trinity Church in lower Manhattan. But signs of Hamilton are all over NY. One perplexing coincidence is between the Hamilton Grange (AH’s historic home, located in St Nicholas park on the upper west side) and whether the outline of the russian/greek orthodox church is in fact St Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church.

This is how I see image 12 so far (conjoined with verse 10):
> Lower left corner pictogram in the ‘stained glass’ is the United Nations. This lines up to the “grey giant” in verse 10.
> In the folds of her dress that hang down is a lion’s face – which I would place as one of the lions flanking the New York Public Library.
> The head of the seagull is a Chrysler Building eagle. It’s not exact, but close.
So far all of these are in the same general vicinity: East 40-44th Street, east of 5th avenue.
What throws me off:
> The “statue of liberty” face. If this is the Statue of Liberty we are now in lower manhattan, which combined with the seagull puts us in a very different location than midtown.
> The seagull – that suggests being close to the water – that would make the “path” from verse 10 perhaps a riverwalk?
> The Russian or Greek Orthodox Cathedral – I was certain this was St Nicholas on E 97th street. But in the context of the other landmarks it doesn’t add up logistically.
> If the “grey giant” is the United Nations –  in its shadow places the “UN campus” and promendade into question. If so this access has been closed to public for some time and post-9/11 will probably not return anytime soon. Does anyone know if this area was accessible when the book was written? That is hard information to come by.
a little on verse 10:
> “the grey giant” might be the UN but it might be the old New York TImes building (W43rd, NY TImes aka the Grey Lady)
> “the sign nearby speaks of Indies native” is Alexander Hamilton. Buried at Trinity Church in lower Manhattan. But signs of Hamilton are all over NY. One perplexing coincidence is between the Hamilton Grange (AH’s historic home, located in St Nicholas
park
on the upper west side) and whether the outline of the russian/greek orthodox church is in fact St Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church.

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Sonoran, I do like your solution but something does bother me.  In the solves for the two that have been found, there has been a visual confirmer at the dig site that can also be seen in the image.  (Wall in Cleveland and fenceposts in Chicago.)  These are pretty much exact matches.  There would be two things that I would look for before I started digging at the location that you have pointed out:
1.  Look for a visual confirmer.  I would not try to tear up asphalt if there is not something you could consider an exact match.  It doesn’t have to be at the dig site itself, but should be viewable from the dig site.

Good point
2fast
! I bet most, if not all, of these locations have a final spot visual confirmer. Although it was of the last items I identified (by accident), I believe I found your confirmer. When I was trying to nail down “
White house close at hand.
” I noticed that the windows in Judson Memorial Church are similar to the top of the Picture 12; the arched stained glass windows. Those three “window panes” at the top of Picture 12 could be representing the multiple arched stained glass windows in Judson Memorial Church. This link is a good link for different angles on those windows.
http://www.nyc-architecture.com/GV/GV021JudsonMemorialChurch.htm
Judson borders the southwest side of Washington Square Park.
Here is one of my favorite ground reference pictures.
The whole park is only 10 acres. So anything bordering the park should be within sight.
Here is an arial shot with Judson Memorial Church on the left and Alexander Holley Monument to right of middle.