I must agree with FB here.  I really dont think our “arc of light” is the lighthouse….too obscure.  Think it will be a little more obvious than that….not kick in the butt obvious, just a little more obvious.

Got to love the internet…
who knew that coming into Sullivan’s Island,
on Station 22 1/2 you crossed a draw bridge…
wouldn’t this be an arc of lights (if it is an old
draw bridge with the metal over hangs for the road
supports)
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tips/get … onNo==1159
Also some photos at the Fort

forest_blight

Why is this an
arc of lights
? I don’t get it. The
arc
has to be key, here, the thing that makes you go “ahh,
now
I get it.” I don’t get that from the lighthouse.

One could say that the beam of light from the tower sweeps across an arc path.  (That, or they use arc lighting, like arc welding?) Hmm, but that would be an “arc of light” not lights.  nevermind.

The lighthouse is automatically run now.
It is on both day and night.

Hi all! I stumbled across “The Secret” last week, but I was instantly hooked so I just wanted to post a quick hello. I spent about 10 years living and working in the Charleston area, so Image 2 caught my attention immediately. (I’m leaning heavily toward Verse 5 for the pairing…)
Unfortunately I’m stuck exploring online for now since I won’t be back in the Lowcountry for a few more months, but I’m amazed by how much devotion this group has shown to the puzzle. Thanks to everyone who’s shared their thought processes so far!

Welcome! I’ve been at it for 13 years now, and not one casque to show for it — I hope you have better luck.

Revisiting one of my favorite image connects, though it shouldnt really considered a match since an oval or circular shape is non-unique but in this particular landscape and circumstance where one would be encouraged to climb the octagonal 150 foot lighthouse stairs, there is no othwr option but to look down upon the conical, light-absent flat top of the old 85 foot lighthouse, You’ll see the remnants of its old above ground cistern, positioned in a way toward which the one shaded daisy pedal might be pointed.

Just wanted to pass along “Where is Osceola?”, a cool 1968 article from Sandlapper, the now-defunct magazine of South Carolina. Interesting to read about the alleged “grave robbing” which led to Osceola’s re-interment the next year. Article starts on page 43…and just FYI, as best as I could tell from NPS photos, that cypress tree alongside Osceola’s grave was gone by 1976:
https://dc.statelibrary.sc.gov/bitstrea … sAllowed=y

Wanted to add a couple things I think I see in image 2 that I have not seen posted anywhere else. If it has I have missed it. I have shared this in a PM, but wanted to post here as well to get thoughts from others.
Does anyone else see a ship on the bottom left of the lion’s mane? It appears to me to be the front of a wooden sailing ship with the bow pointed left and it seems to be sailing out from the shadow on the left of the lion’s face. It is just below the sideways ’33”. In fact what most feel is a sideways number ’33’ I think is actually the sails of the ship, or it may be both, or it may be neither one. LOL. What most believe is a cross in the bottom left of the mane I think is actually the anchor for the ship. It appears to be hanging from the bow of the ship. I tried to attach an image, but I get a message “the board attachment quota has been reached”. Let me know if there is a spot I can post if others can’t see what I am seeing.
Also, the eyes of the African mask. I have searched everywhere for a similar shape, and hexagons are basically non-existent at every location I have been to. Lots of octagons, but no hexagons. I was doing some research on Post Office Park and the Old Post Office and I found a picture on Wikipedia that caught my eye. Go here,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St … h_Carolina
) and click on the top picture on the right side of the page to enlarge it. Then zoom in on the steeple of St Michael’s Church on the left side of the picture. I think the arches at the top of the steeple match the arches on the African mask. The sky showing through the bottom of the arches with the railing balusters looks similar to the eyes on the mask with the lines below the eyes. The line in Verse 6 is, “Seen here by eyes of old”. St Michael’s Church is one of the oldest churches in Charleston, built in the 1750s. Are these the “eyes of old”? You can see the steeple from many places in lower downtown Charleston, but worth noting the angle is correct so you can see these “eyes” on the steeple from both Washington Park and Post Office Park.

there are lions literally everywhere….everywhere. the guy at the end of my old street has two big ass lions lol.

WhiteRabbit

…probably, although in seriousness I did wonder whether BP would base clues for the casque sites around military figures and hardware, as has often come up in the past, based on the central themes of the book. I’ve also been hoping for a proper human translation of the
arms extended / bar that binds
Japanese hint, because I think it might rule out solutions based on sand bars and cannons…
To find the keys is your reward
For Fairy, peace the real accord.

i already told everyone this…the first one leads to #19 in the e african studies collection…its the bar that binds WATER.
the two arms extended are the shadow of the obelisk sundial and the cannon, the treasure is gone. i went there and dug. it was in the triangle shaped sand garden beside fort sumter association building.
a billion times over…thats the spot clearly.

THE SECRET: HOW TO PASS THE DEAD OF NIGHT IN CHARLESTON  ||  cedarCell, Dept. of Investigative TreasureHunting
|| SUMMARY ||
In July 2005, I was in the Charleston area and was able to pursue some of the ideas about The Secret, based on information from Pine Tree and C3.  Along with a TreasureHunt accomplice, EZ, we patrolled the park for clues well past 2am.  Several digital photos were taken during the day and can be accessed at
http://community.webshots.com/user/cedarcell
Many of my photos replicate some of C3’s pictures, but I tried to leave constructive comments in the hopes that between C3’s pictures and those of my own, someone could find something of use.    Based on my findings, I have provided some additional information to combine with C3 and Pine Tree’s respective findings, particularly as related to the geometric shape depicted somewhat hazily in the African mask painting in The Secret.
Much of this Hunt was conducted under the assumption that the “arch theory” of other parts of the Secret would hold true in Charleston (see Background section, below).  In adhering stringently to this theory, several “good” possibilities were ruled out on this Hunt.  Someone may wish to re-examine some of the avenues ruled out if the opportunity should so arise.
|| Brief Background on Sources ||
The observations made were based on the “African” painting from The Secret (image2 in the Q4T files).  Several observations which, with high probability, confirm the location as being Charleston are found elsewhere in this thread on the Q4T site.
Following the precedent that clues to the locations of the casques appear under arches drawn into the paintings, our “target” was the geometric shape seen underneath the arch of the eye of the African mask.
As there can be multiple approaches to solving this Secret site, I approached it with the assumption that the casque location had to fit the “Arch” theory of the painting.  Findings not fitting the arch theory were ruled out below.
Every effort was made to not be redundant with C3’s existing findings, documented in this thread, but some obvious overlaps were nonetheless mentioned for the sake of completeness for this trip report.
|| A Bird’s Eye View ||
The ambiguous shape appears to be a hexagon with a rectangular slit in the middle of it.  Directly below it is a blade-shaped outline with three vertical rectangles side-by-side.
If the hexagonal shape is taken to be a bird’s eye view of a monument, then in three-dimensions, one would be looking for a rectangular slab shaped monument with a hexagonal base.  There are several monuments throughout White Point Gardens, located at the tip of Charleston, which come close, but none which replicate the shape exactly.
Many of the monuments are octagonal in shape and as of this past visit, none were found with a hexagonal base.
With regards to the rectangular slab, or tablets, there are three in the park:  a monument to sunken submarines, the Hunley ship memorial, and the “Pirate Tablet,” described in detail by C3.
The submarine tablet does not have a base.  The Hunley tablet, which Pine Tree and I judged to be a likely candidate from C3’s pictures, has a base, but one which is oval-shaped and not hexagonal.  The Pirate tablet has at its feet (see pictures) what appears to be the remnants of a base, but there is no way of knowing what it used to be.  In reviving this hunt two decades after its initial inception, entropy (and re-zoning and tourism) greatly place us at a disadvantage in the present day.
|| “..between two arms extended..” ||
This line of the Verses was investigated in much detail by C3.  Two ways to consider this line of the poem:
1) Literal “arms” – As C3 points out, there are two statues, each with one arm outstretched towards the sea.  There is indeed an obvious middle point between the two arms located in the park, which is manifested in a grassy area with exposed earth and sand.  However, if desiring to keep with the “Arch” theory, the trail goes cold here.
2) Military “arms” – A commemorative site for the wartime activities surrounding Charleston’s history, the park is bordered by several different types of cannon, of which those that are able, are fully extended into the sea (refer to cannon pictures).  There are several opportunities of burying a casque between the individual cannon locations.
|| “..below the bar that binds…” ||
1) The Former Gate Theory – There are two stone posts located on the street-side of the Hunley tablet.  These are the only posts in the entire gardens proper.  (As an aside, similar posts appear singularly on the median on the river/sea side (south side) of the gardens).  The two posts are slotted in between.  Pine Tree has suggested that these slots could have possibly been, two decades ago, a place for a gate of some sort.  Beneath the location of the hypothetical gate, however, nothing fitting the arch theory was found.
2) Gazebo Gates – Underneath the octagonal gazebo—the centerpiece to the entirety of the gardens, is a metal gate which appears to lead into the mechanical/electrical area (see photos).  I searched the gate for specifics relating to the arch theory, but none were found.
3) Cannon Struts – This seemed the most likely of all the “bars,” and closely satisfies the arch theory.  The cannon located throughout the entire gardens are filled with bolts: hexagonal bolts.  These bolts hold various support structures of the cannon together.  In several photos, I show the area beneath the cannon.  The cannon are built upon brick foundations.  However, there are loose spots of sand directly beneath the cannon which are not bricked at all.  Upon closer inspection, one will notice that there are metal truss-like structures welded together, suggesting an almost “X” shape which lies directly above the sandy, un-bricked areas.  In all of the park, the only item I found that was hexagonal were the bolts on the cannon.  So, in a sense, a portion of the arch theory is satisfied.  What is not satisfied, however, is the shape drawn underneath the hexagon, mentioned below in the “Bending Blade” section.
||”..beside the long palm’s shadow…”||
As C3 points out, palmetto trees line the entire park.  Some are indeed taller than others, but with 20 years behind us, it is difficult to discern one tree from another.  In continuing with the word play, areas where literal “palms” from the statue’s arms could cast a shadow were investigated, but again, none which adhere to the arch theory.
|| “..white house close at hand..”  ||
More hand/palm imagery here.  The north end of White Point Gardens is bordered by a residential street, lined with palmetto trees.  Pine Tree suggested checking out specific white houses, as did C3.  I came up with the same conclusions—nearly every house on the street is painted white (who knows what color they were 20 years ago…).  I’ve included pictures taken from the Hunley tablet, which, along with the Pirate tablet, are the only two monuments of that type near any white houses, if the term is to be taken literally.
|| How to Stretch a Hexagon ||
EZ made this observation.  At the eastern end of the gardens, there is a seawall of sorts.  Here, tourists can climb a flight of stairs to get to the top of the seawall/walkway to get a better view of the waterfront.  EZ noticed that the stairs leading up to the seawall are half a hexagon.  There are three or four “sets” of these types of stairways along the seawall.  Following the shape in the arch theory, the rectangular portion is represented on the staircases by a large metal grate.  Also, there are metal hand-rails along the seawall and along the stairs themselves.  While it fit one portion of the arch theory, we weren’t convinced that the bottom half of the arch-theory (see the Bending Blade section below) was sufficiently met.
|| The Three Paths  ||
In referring to the shape underneath the African mask eye/ arch, the bottom portion of the shape has three vertical, parallel rectangles spaced along the base of the hexagon.  There were three observations in the gardens made by EZ and myself with regards to possible candidates:
1) There are three paved paths which run parallel to one another along the width of the park.  All the monuments mentioned are found along one of the three paths.  From an aerial view, the arch shape is a good fit for the three paths in the park.
2) The benches in the park are all backed with three parallel boards (See picture). Their shadows cast the same shape (goes without saying, perhaps..haha).  However, throw in the time element of twenty years, and there’s no telling what benches were in the Gardens two decades ago.
3) Some but not all of the lamp posts in the gardens have grooved posts, whose patterns resemble the three rectangles, but they all number more than three and in the areas where said lamp posts are located, the other criteria of the arch theory could not be met (based on mine and EZ’s observations).
|| The Path of the Bending Blade  ||
Continuing along the idea that the arch theory shape is an aerial view of the park (see Three Paths section, above)  the curve of the path also matches well with the driving route around the gardens.  The ‘Curve” of the blade-looking path is best represented on the west-end of the park, where a hotel/commercial building stands.  The “blade” part is the road which loops just past its entrance.
|| Castle Pinckney ||
Another one of EZ’s observations.  From any map of the Charleston/Charleston Harbor area, there is an island called Shutes Folly in Charleston Harbor, which is accessible by tour boat.
The island lies near the intersection of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers (again, referencing C3’s idea of the rivers being the “two arms extended” in Verse 6).  There are ample opportunities for continued exploration there, which were not undertaken on this trip.  It fits well on two other lines from the poem.  The ‘long palm’s shadow’ could be a reference to the nearby Isle of Palm resort island.  Also ‘bar that binds’ could be referring to one of the many sandbars in the harbor leading towards Shutes Folly.  On Shutes Folly is Castle Pinckney, a Civil War era prison which may add to the opportunities of pursuing the arch theory.
||  REMARKS  ||
Nighttime in Charleston is relatively safe compared to other touristy towns.  The time EZ and I were at the Gardens was a Saturday night, a time when the park is relatively quiet.  Most other people we saw there were couples or high-school aged folks hanging out by the seawall.  Follow common sense and use the buddy system should you also end up in here in the wee hours of the night.  For those interested in giving the Charleston casque a try, I’d suggest going in the day to scope the place out and then return at night when it’s quieter (and cooler).
The long street perpendicular to the park on the gardens’ east side is East Bay Street, a popular thoroughfare.  It’s pretty quiet for about three or four blocks, then you run into the Market area of town, where a lot of weekend hot spots are, so you’ll always be a few blocks away from crowds of people.  Police are also visibly present every block or so.
If you need some time to clear your head, there’s an independent coffeehouse called Moose Mountain which is a great stop for a caffeine boost.  There’s a sushi place along the way, too, Typhoon, which in my opinion, is forgettable.
Be safe and good luck.
|| cedarCell ||

The woman’s feet are highlighted in blue. They say that the highlighted areas are map outlines.

funsun

The woman’s feet are highlighted in blue. They say that the highlighted areas are map outlines.

Song
I see 2 turtle doves (in the butterfly wings) and a partridge perhaps in a PEAR tree.
12 days of Christmas Song. (Cross in the Lion’s hair could be Christmas.)
I need opinions.

hardatlurk

Has there been any discussion of the woman’s feet in the image? They look alittle weird and are silhouetted…maybe their silhouette matches a landmark or part of a statue?

The feet are crossed like Jesus on the cross along with the bottom cloth. The arms form a t cross.

funsun

The woman’s feet are highlighted in blue. They say that the highlighted areas are map outlines.

Hello funsun
The blue highlights can mean a number of things from image to image. Many searchers think they are important while others think they are just a creative part of JJP’s artwork style. I personally see the blue highlights as indicating certain keys to the puzzle or verse.
Some highlighted parts of an image might be a confirmation of a waymarker that leads us to the treasure spot. In Image 4 the cup is highlighted (fountain in the Italian Garden next to the Greek Cultural Garden) which is a waymarker letting us know we are in the right area.
In Chicago, see how the lady with the fairy wings from the Fountain of Great Lakes is highlighted in blue while the Chicago Water tower is not? This is telling us that the Fountain of Great Lakes is in the neighborhood or near the casque in this case while the Chicago Water Tower is just informing us of the City we are to search.
Then there is Image 9 with no blue highlights.
As for Image 2, I believe the blue highlights below her feet appear to be a path to take to go in the direction of the casque.
So while these blue highlights may not be maps they can certainly help us along the route.

Note that the orientation of the map clue shape of Charleston 1) doesn’t suggest a top-is-north perspective, and 2) isnt consistent with the orientation of the Sumter shape.
I suspect the position and orientation of one or both of these clues is important to judging the general direction of where to go looking for a casque. One interpreration would support White Point Gardens, another would support looking somehere NE of Charleston.

A different BP, Baden-Powell, was an ambidextrous artist born Robert Stephenson Smyth Powell.  He’s the originator of the Boy Scouts.  I find it curious that verse 6 echoes Robert Lewis Stevenson as the name is so similar as this BP’s name.
The winged woman with arms crossed may be an expression of ambidexterity.  Baden-Powell spent much time in Africa.
As for a maritime reference that fits SC, i cant find much of anything.  The most famous link to the scouts is The four Chaplains of the Dorchester sinking.
I noticed Sumpter the city was incorporated on Jan. 1st, 1800, the birth of the 19th century?

I’m low seeing if the tower outline is more of a Calhoun monument reference that takes us to the ferry at the end of Calhoun St.

I’ve been looking at the mask in this picture today and was wondering if it had been identified before. I’ve searched what I’ve found on the forum and haven’t seen anything mentioned.
To me the mask resembles a “Dan mask” from the Dan people of the Ivory Coast. These particular masks contain slit eyes, high foreheads and a pointy chin. They also regularly feature a break on the bridge of the nose and through the middle of the forehead. A Google of Dan mask in images will provide many examples. None exactly resemble our mask, but they contain features which seems to have been accumulated to create ours.
They also seem to hold beliefs which make me think of the free folks story. The masks are used to communicate with the spirit world, and the masks are said to contain the spirit they are trying to contact. I can’t find a link between them and Charleston yet, or if the mask is coincidental.
http://www.artyfactory.com/africanmasks/masks/dan.html

Ashsimmonds-
Pretty sure this is to be a reference to a Fang Ngil style mask. Some of the smart folks noticed this awhile back.
Here is a good list:
http://www.randafricanart.com/Fang_ngil.html

I don’t think it necessarily has to have any specific connection to Charleston. It seems like most of the images contain a nod to the country of origin of that particular group of Fair Folk (i.e. the falcon for Italy, dragon for China, columns for Greece, masquerade/marionette mask for France, etc).
The map of Charleston hidden on the mask is the major clue, the eyes could be doubling as earthquake bolts for another, and the line that runs through the middle of the forehead and over the rightmost eye may be something as well. It’s possible there some other connection with Charleston (like a similar mask being on display in a local art museum–seemingly a favorite locale for BP), but I wouldn’t be shocked if there wasn’t.

Deuce, I can’t see what’s happening here. Are you looking for a superimposed X marks the spot?

Thought I added a comment in that post. Guess not. I just haven’t seen this mentioned as a state outline. I know this image is SC and everything but thought I would add this to the thread. If it was mentioned already my bad.

EvelynMDog, check your PMs.
Regards,
Mac

Hi EvelynMDog, welcome to Q4T! Sorry, I’m a little behind on emails at the moment– I’m still on the other side of the world, my day job is a little busy right now, plus I’m putting the finishing touches on my latest book, due out in February. And oh yeah, Christmas!
I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted if there’s any kind of movement from NPS on my I2/V5 “solution” — the contact I worked with seemed very open-minded, so I’m convinced that some sort of proper dig will happen… someday. Please be safe with your own explorations in the meantime– Sullivan’s Island PD doesn’t mess around!
Hope everyone is enjoying their holidays!

if this image goes with verse 6, i like the area around the market hall
“White house close at hand”–Edward Brickell White designed the Market Hall
“Fair”—can be a gathering to promote business….you know, like a market
the custom house and the and several theaters are here, dock street theater, used to be planters hotel, is where Booth(the elder) stayed when he played Othello in charleston

of course i’m getting verse 5 and 6 mixed up….i got all excited about Rainbow Market and Rainbow Row for “an arc of lights”,
it is up around the market hall…..still, something to keep in mind
here’s a picture:
http://flickr.com/photos/strangelittleg … 125130915/
The Brass Pirate store is there too……..checking to see how long they’ve been there

this is interesting because of the “daisy” in the picture, and it’s right around white point gardens
If you walk a little further down South Battery, you’ll be opposite the corner of Church Street. Note the house on the right. It’s white with columns and was built as a wedding present in 1890. This is the “Villa Margherita,” and it was built in the “Chicago Exposition Style” for a New Orleans belle by a Charlestonian named Andrew Simonds. Her name was Daisy, and the house was named in her honor. In 1909, and several husbands later, Daisy turned the house into an inn. It was run in great style by an extraordinary Charleston woman, Miss Leize Dawson. Some of the notables who graced the inn included Henry Ford, Alexander Graham Bell, Barbara Hutton and both Roosevelts. John F. Kennedy also lived in the area briefly during the Second World War. In the 1920s, they served a soup called diamondback terrapin, or turtle soup, which at the time went for $25 a bowl. The Villa Margherita also boasts South Carolina’s first indoor swimming pool, located in the atrium. In the peak of the spring season the Villa rented guest rooms in the surrounding neighborhood. That was the beginning of the Bed and Breakfast practice in Charleston. Many a household paid its taxes on the proceeds.

Slappy, did you at any time find an anchor? especially one which might have been raised UP on the side of a house or building, or a pole, or statue’s base? The reason I’m asking is this: “
beneath the long palm’s shadow”
.
The ‘points’ on an anchor are called palms. On some anchors, one of the palms will be longer than the other. I thought maybe there might be a visible anchor somewhere where the sun could shine on it, and create a shadow beneath the ‘long palm.’

ck, no it was a not so great trip, lol.  my b/f had left his credit card at a restaurant near myrtle beach on the way to charleston. (we didn’t know, of course, until we got to charleston)  we called the restaurant and they would hold the card, but the next day was a holiday and some places were closed, and what with him worrying about that….. i had like a day and a half to see ft. moultrie, white point gardens and ft. sumter and downtown charleston and see all the houses and churches that his family had lived and preached and the aquarium.  so it was  like,  click click click (pictures) and move on to the next,  lol
plus, he has no interests in a treasure hunt! strange person huh?
i remember your posting that about the anchors, i will start research on that as i research all these areas, ok? (taking a break from boston OR canada
)
i do have some pictures of washington square because i was interested in the “4 corners of the law” downtown, but they aren’t great and my white point gardens pictures would probably just be doubles of cthree’s.  i took some of “liberty square” also, which is right there where you take the boat to ft. sumter.
which reminds me, “fair” could also mean “square” ……..like, fair and square,

The day before yesterday, while searching for puzzles to solve (a hobby), I came across a blurb on the book The Secret and was instantly intrigued by the whole story and the fact that most of the “treasure” remains undiscovered. I couldn’t resist joining the hunt, so I located scans of the images from the book and decided to try my hand at “decoding” one.
I started by listing the main objects visible in the selected image. Then I thought of the larger context (be it cultural, scientific, etc.) of said object and looked for hidden clues in/on the object. I asked silly questions like “What is this object? What do I know about objects of this type?” Repeating this exercise gave me a handy chart to “add up” the various clues and a “solution”.
I chose Image 2 because it seems to picture “tribal” masks or woodcarvings and a (African) lion. (I’d just re-watched The Ghost and the Darkness recently, so my mind was still on Africa.) I played around and came up with my own conclusions about what the image foretold, but I still had a certain questions and doubts. So after some online searching I found this site, registered, waited to be approved, and now after having waded through all the posts pertaining to this image, I thought I would share a few highlights from my conclusion not yet mentioned (or so I recall).
Image Location Highlights
:
Aside: In addition to being the birth flower for the month of April, the daisy flower attracts butterflies (in gardens) and there is a “butterfly” hovering near (what I think is an) Oxeye daisy in the picture.
Aside: On the scanned image which I downloaded the bars on the pentagonal mask ornament look “red, white, and blue”, couple this with the white star on the mask’s other cheek and I immediately thought of the “star(s) and bars” (or the Stars and Bars flag, which was the 1st national flag of the Confederacy). This flag (with three big stripes and 7 stars) first flew over Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, SC in 1861.
Aside: The pear (unlike the Fort Sumter mask ornament) is not just hanging on the tree branch, it is literally attached by its stem or grafted. A graft is a man-made, physical joining of two separate segments, just as a bridge functions on a roadway; a branch is also defined as a road or way. Thus pear graft = pear bridge = Silas N. Pearman Bridge in Charleston. Before it was blown up at least.
Each “level” of the image’s deconstruction focuses on a map, and each subsequent map is a “zoom-in” view of the previous one until finally one reaches the final destination (the park). a) The “etched” map of the South Carolina coastline at Charleston on the tribal skull; b) The close-up of a distended Charleston peninsula  (I think) as a “birthmark” on the lion’s forehead; c) The street-ways map from the grafted pear (Pearman Bridge) over the moth/butterfly wings (peninsula sand bars) to points beyond (Sullivan’s Island); d) and finally the outline of Fort Moultrie itself as a “blotch” on the lion’s right cheek. By following the progression of visual maps it is “impossible” to arrive anywhere else besides Fort Moultrie (even without the longitude and latitude clues).
Verse Collusion Highlights:
I too, paired Image 2 with Verse 5. Initially, because of the obvious Charleston reference (i.e., the best known “citadel” in the USA is located in Charleston, SC). However, the phrase “Citadel in the night” was the first of what I call a ‘double clue’ reference. It could be a literal reference to
the
Citadel (citadel.edu) or it could also reference Fort Moultrie (a fort can be thought of as a “citadel” or fortress — not all citadels are forts, but forts can be citadels). Considering that
the
Citadel is located on Moultrie Street, it may very well reference both.
The second possible “double clue” in the verse is the line “a wingless bird ascended”. The phrase “wingless bird” has been prominently used as a metaphor for at least two man-made creations that I could find easily (in addition to the wingless birds of natural occurrence); the first of these man-made creations is a literary device, the second is the hydraulic elevator.
The famous British writer Coleridge describes poetical prose as a wingless bird (“a metaphysical Bustard”). [Reference:
Such Rare Citings
, the first full-length account of the British prose poem, its history, and status as a genre, by Nikki Santilli. p 215.
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ra0LQ9xpe6oC
] There is also at least one book and poem with similar title. Taking all this into consideration, it is interesting (but not conclusive) that Poe’s “wingless bird” (The Gold Bug) “ascended” (was written, created, dreamed up, took flight) at Fort Moultrie in the 1880s.
I found the more likely reference to be an hydraulic elevator. When the hydraulic elevator was first introduced several news stories of the day used this specific phrase “The upward flight of the great wingless bird” to refer to the contraption. Such as:
Harper’s New Monthly Magazine
. Published by Harper & Brothers, 1882 Item notes: v.65
[
http://books.google.com/books?id=SsoaAA … #PPA893,M1
] And there’s even a retrospective on the hydraulic elevator which refers to it as “a wingless bird” in the title, so the terminology would seem to be an acknowledged descriptor.
Thus we have the Sullivan’s Island lighthouse (officially called Charleston Light), the last lighthouse built by the U.S. Coast Guard (1962). The Charleston Light is unique: it’s the only three-sided lighthouse; it’s the only lighthouse in the USA with siding; and it’s the only lighthouse in the USA, (and possibly the world), that has an elevator.
[
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/sep … r_mo54218/
]
I will end by saying that I also believe the casque in question is most likely located beneath a tree at Fort Moultrie National Monument on Sullivan’s Island, SC and that in all probability it cannot be retrieved (due to the NPS regs). Boy is this a disappointment!
PS If I’ve repeated anything, just consider it summarization and “expoundering.” Please forgive the extra-long first post….

nice post unschliemann!
that is interesting about the lighthouse and the elevator, i’d never heard that b4.
are u gonna go hunting?
i’ve been there for a quick run thru of the places mentioned, well, some of them, and i’ve seen that lighthouse, i don’t see how it could hurt anything there, so i would ask someone there at the fort who’d u ‘d need permission or how to go about getting permission.  i hope you’re going hunting, we need more hunters

but forest, it has that “or” ………either this “or” that,
it did the same for the 2 sentences b4 that……
freedom at the birth of a century
Or May 1913 (on the capstan)
edwin and edwina named after him
Or on the eighth a scene…………
by the way that capstan has lots of 8’s on it
and capstans used bars OR levers, lol
and in this pic of cthree’s there is a palm tree on the left of the capstan
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1158 … 4516haIyQD
:
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1158 … 4516MmSeYp
i am trying to find stuff on blyden here…..so far no luck

The “or”s don’t matter for what I’m claiming. Regardless of what is written in the rest of the verse, I claim that the Edwin/Edwina reference *must* be a reference to Blyden; the odds that it is a reference to anything else are extremely tiny, given that the same book has indisputably been used for a quote in another verse. The “or”s would not alter that at all.
See, what I had
hoped
we could find was something like this:
…but alas, this one is in Africa.

does it mean chief cw?
it could if you spell it dif like this, pronounced the same
ca·cique (k-sk)
n.
1. An Indian chief, especially in the Spanish West Indies and other parts of Latin America during colonial and postcolonial times.
2. A local political boss in Spain or Latin America.
American Spanish, from Arawak kassequa, chieftain.]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cacique

wow cw, you are good at research!  but i’m not sure if any of that is shown on the monument of him, just when i did a quick search on him i had seen that word and it caught my eye, lol. there might be something with simms that goes with “the boogieman” about the grandfatherly spirt, truth seeker and dreamer, or something like that, no time to check exact words…i know all that makes u think of martin luther king or sojourner truth..but remember, i think all the guide does is general and maybe wordplay (or, i’m hoping or thinking, just maybe small hints)
i found out that olmsted did design white point gardens:
http://flickr.com/photos/hdescopeland/3010023874/
but i’m going to concentrate on looking for the “edwin and edwina named after him” part.  maybe on one of the crew lists on the memorials, maybe there is someone named
AFTER
edward, or edwina. the only thing so far with edward, is knowing that stede bonnet joined blackbeard (edward teach), which still makes me think of “
the long arm of the law
, which could go with “below the
bar
that binds” and “beside the “
long palm’s shadow
and there was a captain edward anderson i read about, but not sure if he is mentioned on one of the war memorials.
i have got to go back and look at the crew lists pictures, not much time today, but still convinced it has something to do by the pirates monument, with the hanging of ft. sumter, she’s hanging on a limb, and now the “long arm” of the law………and the “
bar exam
for justice,

slappybuns

“beside the “
long palm’s shadow

Nothing terribly important to share but I just came up with another odd idea after reading the part of your post I quoted above.  Where ever this quote leads us, is it possible that instead of a tree {palm}, we are looking for a person?  Is there a statue of a person named ‘Long’ at any of our possible sites?  I understand that technically, for this theory to work, the word long would be capitalized to show a name and would also be possessive as in:  Long’s palm shadow… but it could still work.  Look for the statue of Long and use the shadow of his hand {palm}.  We would still have the problem of searching at a specific time of day allowing us the correct shadow placement.  That fact alone leads me to believe we are probably not working with a real ‘shadow’ in the first place but thought I would ramble on anyways.

that is great fox! haven’t gotten to the list of names yet on those memorials.  i will look for anyone named edward,edwin, long, palm, and even shadow, lol.
but i did find these two photos of the flagpole, they seem to be in different places to me, and if a flag had the flag of south carolina, it would be a “long” (as in tall) , palm (the palm tree on the flag), and a shadow
http://flickr.com/photos/hdescopeland/2 … 7/sizes/o/
(i think that’s a flagpole)
http://flickr.com/photos/16451098@N04/2 … 783351779/
this one is between “two arms”…..(guns or whatever
)
http://www.50states.com/flag/scflag.htm
and after reading it like that………long palm shadow……………lol, long john silver (the pirate in treasure island!)
another thought with the flag……..you always “stand” up

here’s one list, and the only named that stood out to me was “joseph”, because in the guide “the boogie man” mentions “rainbow wearer”………lol, which made me think of joseph and his coat of many colors…
http://flickr.com/photos/16451098@N04/2 … 783351779/
the other side of it:
http://flickr.com/photos/16451098@N04/2 … 783351779/
amberjack memorial:
http://www.waymarking.com/gallery/image … 41b1cdb17a
alphabetically?
how about this for “or on the eighth a scene”:
http://books.google.com/books?id=e9rdhT … &ct=result

Unknown

Unknown:
but i’m going to concentrate on looking for the “edwin and edwina named after him” part.  maybe on one of the crew lists on the memorials, maybe there is someone named AFTER edward, or edwina. the only thing so far with edward, is knowing that stede bonnet joined blackbeard (edward teach), which still makes me think of ” the long arm of the law, which could go with “below the bar that binds” and “beside the “long palm’s shadow

slappy, I feel compelled to once again post this image — which is found in
the exact same book as the Sarmiento quote in V2
— that tells us precisely who Edwin and Edwina are named for. If it were just a matter of finding people after whom Edwin and Edwina could have been named, there are probably many possibilities. But the fact that this was found in the same book makes the probability that the other theories are correct
vanishingly small
.
Call me closed-minded, but for me the answer to the question “who are Edwin and Edwina named for?” has been definitely answered — it’s Edward Wilmot Blyden. Now, what to
do
with that information is anyone’s guess.

Found this and thought it was woth sharing.
note the similarity between the major roads (hwy 17) and the branch running thru P2.  The pear would fit over where historic Charleston lies.  Why a pear…?….still unsure, unless it may be that travelling east over the Cooper River from historic Charleston to the Mount Pleasant area, you cross over the Silas Pearman Bridge
…  Even the mask (Ft Sumter) is in the correct location on the map.  For further exploration of this page go to
http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/charleston/map.htm
Marion Square

fox – see stercox’ post of April 4. it’s back a ways, but this idea has come up before. I like it a lot.

The left side seems like a close enough match. The right side, however, has those three appendages on the skull that don’t translate to the one inlet on the map. Sorry everyone if I’m using the wrong map terms.

Macfos

Yeah, that is what I have been looking at, but have not found anything matching…
Regards,
Mac

And the nose/mouth of the lion is all this
https://imgur.com/a/P4w1V

MrSeabass

I’m not seeing any sort of match. It makes no sense to include something as ambiguous as that when a super clear and obvious map of the peninsula/bay/islands already exists on the image.

Oh, that’s a good point, I forgot about that.
This is so Rorschach, I wonder if Preiss ever got any angry letters, “why did you paint a picture of my Uncle naked on the skull?”

strike13

And the nose/mouth of the lion is all this
https://imgur.com/a/P4w1V

I feel like it is a much better match for the highways above where you circled, but your point still stands.

MrSeabass

…again, why would there be *two* maps of the same place on the image? The lion does not contain any sort of map whatsoever.

damn where is the like button when you need it…

…again, why would there be *two* maps of the same place on the image? The lion does not contain any sort of map whatsoever.
well i think 2 maps because one encompasses more territory, more of the coast of that area of sc, where the nose and mouth are, and the other one, on whatever that figure is, is similar to a zoomed in version of actual charleston. i think there are many maps in every image, and they just keep getting more and more intricate and narrowed down to where exactly the casque is at.

strike13

i think there are many maps in every image, and they just keep getting more and more intricate and narrowed down to where exactly the casque is at.

Boy that would be nice, of course I haven’t seen any evidence of that ever….

Agreed. I have lived here a long time and the map on the mask forehead is all I can see. I am not sure the tree branch can be called a map. It is just a road with a possible reference to our old bridges.
Regards,
Mac

MrSeabass

I’ve been to Charleston more times than I’ve been to the bathroom. I’ve been to so many parts of the city that I could claim it under adverse possession laws.
Other than the potential pear branch/highway connection and the blatant Ft. Sumter pendant, there is NO map anywhere else on that image. Not a hint of one, not a subset of one, not a mirror/invert/fisheye/stretched version of one. Full stop.

and, uh, this one

drunknerds

and, uh, this one

well that and fort sumter…

I am trying to add the picture of Havana Harbor, but I can’t figure out how to do that. Any assistance would be helpful.

Smokey Joe Would

I am trying to add the picture of Havana Harbor, but I can’t figure out how to do that. Any assistance would be helpful.

Hi Smokey,
You have to upload the photo to an image hosting site, such as
www.imgur.com
. Then you can just post the link here or use the Img option to embed the .jpg into your post.

Here is a link to the image Smokey Joe is referring to:
https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:4m90fk355
Regards,
Mac

An interesting match proposal:
In my opinion, it doesn’t quite fit: The “horsehead stain” seems to have ~7 appendages, whereas I can only find 4 in Havana Bay
Keep it coming though, one day we’ll crack that skull

Agreed… it is close, but you can’t account for a lot of the other shading.
In addition to the “forehead stain” I am intrigued with the odd hairline.
Regards,
Mac

Macfos

Agreed… it is close, but you can’t account for a lot of the other shading.
In addition to the “forehead stain” I am intrigued with the odd hairline.
Regards,
Mac

The hairline on the lion looks like a coastline to me. I got a partial match to northern Spain, but yeah, not sure.

Unknown

Unknown:
gManTexas wrote:
The hairline on the lion looks like a coastline to me. I got a partial match to northern Spain, but yeah, not sure.

Yeah, that is what I have been looking at, but have not found anything matching…
Regards,
Mac

I have a wild theory on P2/V5. I was wondering if there was anyone near Sullivan’s Island? I will post more on my theory once I gather a few more pics from the web.

Not near it, but I’ve been there and I think it’s a great candidate site.

Well as far as my theory, it may be far fetched. Here it goes…
For the V5 I will focus on the wingless bird line and after, since the lines before people have come up with Fort Moultrie as a possible nearby location already.
A wingless bird ascended
I also saw the riddle as someone else mentioned about a wingless bird being smoke.
Born of ancient dreams of flight
Smoke is born of fire. What does this have to do with ancient dreams of flight? I was thinking of born of fire and ancient flight , which made me think of a Phoenix. The dream part may just be there because a phoenix is a mythical creature.
Beneath the only standing member  Of a Forest
Stella Maris church across from the fort was built to replace the Church St John the baptist. The church was the only public building left standing on the island after the Charleston fire in 1861 and the war ending in 1865. The definition of forest also says,      Forest  4. a thick cluster of vertical objects: a forest of church spires.
To the south  White stone closest
Directly south of the church is a small plot of land with a white stone, a stone wall like in the wings and a bird bath which looks like the lion’s nose.
At twelve paces  From the west side
To the west side of the white stone is the bird bath which looks about 5-6 paces, pass the bird bath in the back is another stone wall just about 12 paces
Get permission  To dig out
I don’t know who owns the land or who you would get permission from.
Stella Maris is also The star of the sea, like the star on the Fort Sumter part of P2 and the Phoenix idea to me seemed symbolic of Charleston being reborn from the ashes. again the 1861 fire and war.
Attached will be some images. 1 is an arial view of Fort Moultrie welcome center. Look at the walkway near the parking lot. The X in P2 looks to be where the church is. Also there is a tree in front of the church, which looks similar to the type of tree used for the “branch street map”
I said my theory was wild and probably far fetched.  But I just wanted to get this out there
Sorry for the image quality of the white stone and stone wall. I could only get those from google earth.
The tree image was too large a file for an attachment so here is a link to it.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/bigs/line3276.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/htmls/line3276.htm&usg=__5K-t9u8iyo6numJYYJJ52tHH4F8=&h=2448&w=1632&sz=2889&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=GI-ga_NqTPQGaM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstella%2Bmarisgnarly%2Btree%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

cw0909

i dont want to get to O/T,but that Stadther,statement,and yours the very special child–with superpowers
in the summer of 09,i meet a child that is a genius,and gave her the book of sad,she is in her freshman yr
of college this yr,age 15,and still hasnt solved it, she is good in every subject,but loves math,i thought for
sure she would solve it,so far no go,she did say that it might be a morse,but she hasnt found it yet
go figure,IMO,its only simple if you know the answer,and im still looking LOL

Yeah. So much for “so easy a child could solve it,” eh?

Other portions of the image that I have not seen much conversation on are:
1. The “Sunglasses” to the right of the Lion. (To me this looks more like a boom mast and definitely not sunglasses)
2. The hidden face above the “Sunglasses”
3. The top of the lions forehead (That jagged shape seems so odd)
4. The birthmark on the Lion (Not much theory, except a reference to the base of Defender’s statue, which seems like a stretch, but who knows)
5. Of course the lady, especially her hair, closed eyes and overall body position
6. The idea of a moth or butterfly
In the other images that have been solved, there were major landmark clues. To me the clues that have been brought up for image 2 are just general location for Charleston. i.e. Map, coordinates, Pear (for Silas Pearman bridge), and the outline of the state in the tree branch. And of course the Africa theme for slavery trade.
Are we missing specific defining landmark clues?
Some clues that are very specific to me as a local are:
1. The tree branch which is definitely highway 703 that leads from Downtown to Mt. Pleasant and then directly to Sullivan’s Island
2. The Pear on the branch mentioned above would be a reference to Silas Pearman bridge
3. Fort Sumter medallion shape
4. The daisy really fits the Palmetto tree on the flag, along with the shaded portion of the pair showing the crescent moon
Would like to get thoughts on this.
Regards,
Mac

Hi JamesV – I really enjoyed reading your write up and looking at the photos you took. Sullivan’s Island is such a relaxing and historic spot.
I saw your diagram of where you think the casque is held, near the grave site in front of the Fort. Seems very logical based on the clues. Too bad digging is not allowed at this point. I hope you find a way to get in there.
My only question on that theory is: Would that ground, even though a few paces away, be considered a grave site? Only asking because that was one of the rules; that nothing would be in a cemetery. Although, not a cemetery, still a sacred burial ground.
I would like to get your thoughts.
Regards,
Mac

Macfos, welcome to the hunt. NPS has actually been very responsive throughout the last year, and especially since the “Expedition Unknown” episode first aired. Please keep your fingers crossed–you never know what 2018 might bring!
Regarding the gravesite, here’s the language used in the original rules:
“The following places do not hold any treasure:
(a) any life-threatening location, such as a dangerous highway embankment, a contaminated area or active railway track
(b) any cemetery
(c) any public or private flower bed
(d) any property owned by the contributors to the book, their families or friends.”
It’s a little hard to see from my photos, but Osceola’s grave is a man-sized slab of concrete laying flat on the ground. The upright Patapsco monument obelisk is listed as being 2′ wide at the base. While both memorials contain actual human remains, both are also clearly protected by waist-high iron fencing which was in place before 1981/1982. The casque location that I came up with would be either 5 or 10 yards away from both of these— definitely in a sensitive area which would obviously require “permission to dig out”, but also clearly outside the marked boundaries of any cemeteries/sacred burial sites.

Hello James – thanks, I’m really enjoying these hunts for the “secrets”.
The lion’s forehead is just another clue to verifying that the casque is in Charleston.
Its been educational to read more and more of the ideas being thrown about on all these threads. It has really helped me to take a step back from what seems “obvious” and reconsider other possibilities. I’m only one week into this after the Expedition Unknown episode and am really loving the challenge. I will try to jump in with ideas and get more feedback so, thank you guys.
I am trying to catch up on reading as much of the previous pages as possible so I can see what everyone’s thoughts are so bear with me. In fact, after realigning some thoughts today I’m more into the thinking that (and this has probably already been discussed):
Between two arms extended (Low Battery and High Battery sea walls)
Below the bar that binds (Connection of the sea walls)
Beside the long palm’s shadow (Where the setting sun creates a shadow of the extended arm from the Defender’s Statue)
Embedded in the sand (This refers to the landscape “beds” (em
bed
ded) up against the seawall where the shadow hits)
And keep in mind, those are not flower beds so they can be dug next to the area between where the High Battery wall connects to the “bar” on the curve of the pennisula.
My 2¢ worth,
MrBackstop

Hi James – Glad to hear the NPS is interested and appears interest is growing, which helps the cause.
Very good point that the graves are fenced in. I have been to Fort Moultrie many times. We are on Sullivan’s Island or IOP every weekend during the spring and summer. We live just a quick drive to those beautiful beaches. Been to cold lately to get down there though. We just had 7 inches of snow here recently!!
One thing that troubles me with the Charleston image is that I have not seen many thoughts or explanations/theories for the the woman in the picture, besides her wearing what are referred to as slave bracelets.
Do you have any thoughts on that?
Regards,
Mac

Hi MrBackStop – When I first starting pouring over all of this information (I have read about 20K posts.. lol) that was my first thought. Then I remembered that the entire section of the area you are talking about was completely removed and rebuilt several years back, so if the casque was there, it is gone now. See the link below:
http://mip.hcss.com/most-interesting-project/mip2015/projects/battery-seawall/
I look forward to your thoughts on image 2 as you progress through the information. There is a lot to catch up on for both of us!
Regards,
Mac

I just got back from a short trip to Charleston, SC. I’m now trying to figure out how to relate the volumes of interesting things ive seen and thought in the past 2 weeks to you guys.Ok—in the beginning i decided that if in fact the Charleston casque was buried in a park, then it would have to be either Francis Marion or Whitepoint Gardens. There are others, including Hampton Park–but that one was quickly eliminated after a few hours in Charleston. Basically the parks other than FM and WPG we either just ‘parks’ (Hampton-no monuments no real anything besides a ‘park’) or they had been transformed in a major way–(Marion square has been changed multiple times, but still holds many monuments and such)-We checked Washington Square-Cannon Park-the Old Exchange-Waterfront (even though it was built after the book was published.) and basically decided on White Point. Why?
Well there are a few things. Im just going to list them all here-some are further stretches that others so stick with me ;]
Before i left the 2 things that stuck out most were the ‘king’ of the jungle relating to King St., and the designs in the fairies wings reminded me of the cannon covers at the battery. Also the little circles pattern is either the stacks of cannon balls at the battery or just a representation of cobblestone–the cobblestone portion of Charleston is right next to the battery. So thats where we spent most of our time. I also liked the fact that there was a church street as well as king that went straight to the battery. Maybe thats waht the little cross in the lion’s hair refers too. Also-a little further out- i thought the things under the lions eyes looked like beaches.  Also we have discussed the strange mark on the african mask. The line that starts from Ft. Sumpter and makes a strange design–. It actually encircles white point perfectly. Fort Sumpter can be actually seen from the battery
as well which was another bonus.
After a trip to the Library we decided that the Battery had remained relativley unchanged since 1981.  It is a park about 2 blocks long and 1 block wide-relativley small. It is encircled with cannons displaying the cover i like, and has 10 monuments/statues scattered around the park.
There is a detailed thread on verse 6–the verse that we focused on for this P–check it out.

He called me back at work in the evening, but I had already left.  It was a nice message — advising me of the BP tragedy in case I did not already know.  I will call him back later today.

please ask him about his thoughts on Houston.  I can send you the picture if you need me to.
wilhouse

Has anyone ever come across Christ Church College in England during their research for The Secret?  I have and I came across Lewis Carroll”s Alice in Wonderland and The Looking Glass.  Does anyone else see what I see, Alice taking a bite from the mushroom?  Just something way out there.

me too…i meant no harm.

dig where the casque is
sorry
good luck
wilhouse

*lol*
“I do not want to be the pearl that people find in
the oysters; I want to be that grain of sand that
caused the pearl to form.”          -Ross Perot

lobster411

You aren’t planning on digging it up are you?  Because I would really like to get it myself…

Me? dig it up?  Not unless I can find a shovel with a handle long enough to reach from NM
This one seems to be all yours, unless anyone else in the area wants to join in the excitement of unearthing the bad boy.  I wont be me tho,,,,no worries there.

Sorry.  I guess I can’t shake the competitive nature of other hunts.

One of these days you will begin to trust
The Secret
hunters.
Even if I were nearby, you would be the first person I would contact to ensure you join in the dig.

lobster411

Sorry.  I guess I can’t shake the competitive nature of other hunts.

you need to try, at least here.
wilhouse

From what I understand, the first twenty years of this
hunt was very very competitve and one casque was found
After that, we started working together, and one casque was
found
*flip*  I call heads.

Trohn, you have 60 smites man.  I’m loving it.  Keep it alive!

Digging again tomarrow.  Any last minute advice?

I’ve had a nagging suspicion that Image 2 has something to do with “hunting and gathering” given the large predator and the vulnerability of the lepidoptera woman.  The tribal mask might be an indication of ‘hunting’ as well.  The “tags” in the shape of Sumter could be hunting tags.  The pear fruit could represent harvest gathering, although it’s not the killing a creature sort.
I found a gruesome story today on Wikipedia about lynching.  The only existing photo of a woman being lynched was of
Luara Nelson
.  This occured in the month of May in 1911.  If only it were 1913, then I’d think it might fit the line in verse 6, but it does support the idea that lynching was a concern during that time.  The pear hanging from the branch could be symbolic of lynching.  The wiki article mentioned Woody Gutherie wrote songs about the topic.  “Strange Fruit” was a song performed by Billy Holiday.  The “Sumter on a chain” may be symbolic of lynching as well since it looks like a face dangling from a neck-chain.  The Laura Nelson lynching happened in Oklahoma, but may be considered a matter of national attention, so I’m not concerned that it didn’t fit directly with Charleston.  Perhaps there is some lynchings related to Charleston, and that might align with this idea.  Where it leads directly, I still have no idea.  Just an idea to chew on for the moment.

Unknown

Unknown:
Soon after the commutation, on August 17, 1915, a group of 25 men, described by peers as “sober, intelligent, of established good name and character“ stormed the prison hospital where Leo Frank was recovering from having his throat slashed by a fellow inmate. They kidnaped Frank, drove him more than 100 miles to Mary Phagan’s hometown of Marietta, Georgia, and hanged him from a tree. Frank conducted himself with dignity, calmly proclaiming his innocence. Townsfolk were proudly photographed beneath Frank’s swinging corpse, pictures still valued today by their descendants.

More to do with lynching.
In May of 1913, Leo Frank was arrested for the murder of Mary Phagan (actually murdered on Apr. 26th).  The Leo Frank Trial was the one article headline that I found in interesting in my careful search of the New York Times archives (I read them all for the month of May in 1913).
Frank became the only known Jew lynched in American history.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso … frank.html

two

White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side
I’ve always been suspicious of that “closest”. Maybe it could be “close St”, or “close to the street”. Twelve paces from the west side of the street…?
I’d like to know what was on this sign beside Fort Moultrie at the bottom of Station 12 St., and whether there’s any white stones down that way.
The Twelfth Station is where JC died on the cross.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stations_of_the_Cross
There aren’t many actual “lanes” on Sullivan’s island. Sea Breeze Lane is near the church. Doubt if it’s suitable, but can’t really make it out.
Sullivan’s Island has these markers all over the place that look like they might be white stone. Or are they wood? Street signs I suppose; I haven’t been able to read the writing on any of them…
I’m completely open-minded about this really; open to radical theories. It might not be right next to the monument. It might be several feet away from it.  ;D
Maybe you could take 12 paces from that white stone “street marker” by the monument shown above, and see where that gets you.
Is this about 12 paces…?

Here’s another of those “white stones” (?)
It says “Middle” and “Sta 11” (intersection of Middle St and Station 11 St). You could find examples saying “Poe”, “L’on”, “Palmetto”, and other street names that might possibly be relevant.
That means the one by the monument shown above, or nearby, must say “STA 12”
“White stone close st At 12″…?
Overview showing “street marker” stone, monument, and possible wire confirmer beside Stella (star) Maris, 1204 Osceola. (I’m not repeating myself am I?)
The daisy petals remind me of those white marker stones.
(I’d say there were 17 petals. Station 17 is at the end of L’on.)

I know 32/79 are the lat/long, but how about this…
(Image 1 “crossover clue”…? They’re on opposite sides of the same page.)
It’s another possible “white stone” at Moultrie.
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMB1 … _Island_SC

Re: “Lane two twenty two”, you arrive on Sullivan’s Island via Station 22-and-a-half St, and see signs like this. Maybe it’s “to twenty two”.

Here’s where that “32” stone is apparently located…
Flag sign circled, 32 stone marked with a cross.
(Just realised this is the “property marker” stone that people looked at before, discussed on P13 of this thread. It’s a good stone, though I don’t know exactly where people dug, or their reasoning.)

Hi – Guest of White Rabbit here again. I have been here all week at Sullivan’s island. The organ in the church was not here when BP came via the Father or is at the church but he says where the bell ringing area is now there use to be some pipes that resembled whats in the puzzle picture that we are comparing to the organ. Also as another possible only member of a forest to the south in the church yard is a salt cedar – its branch’s or needles look allot like the ones in the picture and its not a native tree to here its imported from Africa(more to the south than here) Some may think its an only standing member as its the only one in this area and was here when BP may have been here. The sign at the end of middle street on the beech is a warning not to swim to the left of it due to strong riptides. Yes the street marker is at the tip of the park across from the church and says Osceola one side sta 12 on one side and middle on the other (3 streets meet here) and they were here when bp came and are always white. Using a pace as 30 inch up to 36 I worked a radius to the west side of this stone to no luck I did the same to the ww2 memorial -it puts you just on the edge of the park and the lady’s property next door – no luck with that either. I also checked right beside them as White Rabbit requested – sorry no luck – the ground here ends at around 2ft depth in a bed of shell so this in some ways made the search easier but I hit a lot of shells and had to check them out to see they were only shells. Osceolas grave is across the street at an angle and next to it is a tall white memorial there(list names of those who died in a ship here) is room to go out the paces but the park service said that’s a no-go- they would not allow me to check the ground anywhere near it but it fits the puzzle. The same with the tree behind the fort or on the water side – that palmetto tree was not likely here when bp came and Hugo the hurricane knocked out most of the area trees but even so its still on the forts land and they wont let me check it – look yes take pictures yes probe with a rod – not this trip. I will be here 3 more days if any other ideas come up for me to check. And when I get back home I have several pictures from the area to put up maybe it will help some one else out (if its not resolved in 3 days-lol). the Father at the church is very interested in the puzzle and gave me permission to check or dig anywhere on the property while here but there is not a white stone on the church yard only across the street at the small park. I also tried going true west of the two markers instead of just west side – no-go on that as well did not locate the treasure desired. Looked up the picture and story about the artist named white who painted the scene with the flag – its not a tree standing or last tree but a rod used to pack the guns he tied the flag to it in the painting and tried to raise it but I will try to get a picture of the white marker you pointed out on the beach beyond the palmetto tree so that we at least know whats there. The windswept halls fit the fort as its hallways are open and some when blocked are only blocked by bars  and the wind sweeps through them. The forts actual walls are brick it has been rebuilt 3 times. The Stella Marris church was built with bricks from the 2nd  Ft Moultrie. Following the theme in threads about the two found in each picture they each show the exact spot in the puzzle picture – I can not see anything in the picture that resembles that small park. I do notice the face on the right side of picturewhere eye glass looking image is & also the cross in lines mane on the left looks like its part of a necklace around a face on that side – Has anyone else noticed that? and if so what do you make of it – very hidden not as obvious as other clues. I will check back for more help or ideas later today & thanks for lettingme be a part of this.

Unknown

Unknown:
Initially, a massive battery for three 12-inch breech-loading rifles (BLR) on gun lift carriages was projected for construction at Fort Sumter in the early 1890s.  Funds in the amount of $75,000 were appropriated and Captain Fredric V. Abbot began preliminary work that consisted of soil test boring on the old parade ground of the historic fortification.  The test bores suggested to Abbot that the site could not support the weight and size of the projected battery by resting its foundations on pilings.  It was Abbot’s opinion that a battery erected at Fort Sumter would have to be founded upon a grillage floated on the surface soil. Abbot also made repairs to the fort’s scarp in preparation to the projected battery construction.

Hey, thanks for all your work on this!
Brainstorming, brainstorming…
Sullivan’s Island definitely has the African connection.
Perhaps I’ve been too wrapped up in the search for “visual clues” in the image. We still can’t know for sure whether some of these puzzles rely on visual clues, but the evidence so far is that the picture gives an area, but the
verse
gives the location. In New Orleans, for instance, there are convincing visual clues all over the place, in several different parks. The only thing we can be sure of from that picture is that it’s somewhere in New Orleans. Likewise, I’m starting to think that this is probably in Sullivan’s Island somewhere, but even if the Moultrie and Stella Maris “clues” are valid and intentional, they might just be “Sullivan’s Island” clues.
So, I’ve been going back to the verse, and trying to figure out what the verse is talking about.
The problem is that the verses can apparently identify different random locations in the same way as the pictures. For instance, the Roanoke verse seems to quote from different signs that are quite far apart with no obvious trail.
…and on the subject of “trails”, some verses seem to follow quite a lengthy joined-up route (eg Milwaukee) while others just reference various nearby things, in no particular logical order (Chicago).
So…hmm.  😛
Somewhere in the verse are lines which tell us about a particular location. I think the “street name” stones are a new and interesting possible candidate for the “white stone”, and I’ve come round to thinking of the “twelve paces” as 12 simple, literal steps.
The verse definitely seems to reference the lighthouse (“arc of lights”), so that area might be worth exploring. Street markers near the lighthouse…? We also think there are Poe references in the verse, and the Poe library is near the lighthouse. L’on (Lion?) ave runs past it. Perhaps the lighthouse itself could be considered “white stone”.
I’m always drawn to fences. Eg, is this fence 12 paces west of this white stone…?
Re: “two twenty two”, Sullivan’s Island historical site #222 is an 1890 school at 2014 Central Ave. Doesn’t look very interesting though.
I’m still puzzled about “Lane”, and there might be something in the “Abbot” acrostic we haven’t figured out yet.
A
wingless bird ascended
B
orn of ancient dreams of flight
B
eneath the only standing member
O
f a forest
T
o the south
Could this be Captain Abbot…?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CoastDefe … 7878?var=0
I think this was Frederic Vaughan Abbot, the son of Henry Larcom Abbot, though I’m not 100% sure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Larcom_Abbot
(Henry was big in submarines; possible tie-in with
HL Hunley
or something…? Seems to have been a famous sub launched off Sullivan’s Island. Starting to drift away from the clue though, if it is a clue.)
The pendant undoubtedly references Sumter. The shape also vaguely suggests the fence surrounding this triangular lighthouse.
* Whimsy alert *
Africa’s diamond, earth-born star
Bright harvest of the midnight rock
Stella Maris, Star of the Sea…lighthouse…
“Flag” as red, amber, green traffic lights…
“…ancient dreams of light…”
“Dark glasses” in pic. This thing was very bright. Too bright – they had to turn it down to stop annoying people.
http://www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=334
* * * * *
I’m concerned about encouraging you to spend your vacation chasing buried treasure. Make sure you get some sunbathing in.  8)

erexere

I have. No, plexi doesn’t respond that well. Ideal conditions might give that result you’re talking about. The trial and error process of not knowing if you’ve hit a rock or root or some other subsurface garbage puts a lot of wear and tear on the drill tool. My 20v Dewalt hammer drill was crying after punishing it in a clay rich area. Working it on my test box replica in my back yard, I was unable to penetrate the box when I used extra force. The ground temp beer cans hiding inside were safe and sound after rigorous testings.

Wait a minute, you put poor, helpless beer cans in a box underground? I wish I could have helped you dig them up….that’s a true treasure right there.

MrBackstop

Wait a minute, you put poor, helpless beer cans in a box underground?

I know! He is an animal!

Macfos

I remember reading that the feet were thought to look like the peninsula or possibly local rivers.
Another interesting thing is that the girl in general besides the hair resembles the “logo” of the Stella Maris church on Sullivans Island across the street from the Fort. I threw that out a while back but did not get any feedback except for drunknerds… which was a hoot. He is a funny dude.
Regards,
Mac

Thanks!
I don’t even remember this, but I hope I was more jovial than sarcastic. Can you throw the images up again?

The original one is gone, but I found a copy on another site. It was just the pose and the blueish of the water and the mast next to the skull that caught my attention. This was back when I was first looking at JamesV’s solution. The cross in the lion’s mane and some other older posts had me snooping around the church and the WWI memorial.
http://Fineartamerica.com/shop/greeting+cards/stella+maris
Regards,
Mac

Here are a bunch of pictures of Washington Square. I posted Marion Square a bit back in the thread. Trying to hit a different park here and there and get pics.
https://imgur.com/a/abep8ZM
Regards,
Mac

The lion MAY simply represent Charleston in general, but my theory
is that the larger the piece of the image, the closer to the burial
site (so perhaps the largest items in the image are the most insignificant
to the whole area)
The map idea is a good idea to keep in mind.
You must use the verse and the image simultaneously as one confirms the other.
You can ‘find’ the spot using only the image or only the verse, but you lose
the tools to check yourself.
The butterfly wings have double sets of rings that match up to the cannons
of Fort Moutrie as do the wings themselves as the whole shape of the Fort.
Being South of the Fort, near the shore, you would have the proper perspective of
the cannons that you need (just as they fired on the British ships)
I have found a strange coincindence for the remaining phrasing:
“Born of Ancient Dreams of Flight”
One of the inspirations of Sigorsky (besides DaVinci) was Jules Verne.
As he was one of the original sci-fi wrtiers, his writings were the inspiration
for many to persue flight.
Jules Verne wrote a story (Blockade Runners) that details a boatload of cotton
trying to escape the southern americas and travel to europe to sell it.  The blockade
they were running was during the Civil War.  The fictional story details the ship:
The Dolphin leaving Charleston Harbor and details slipping by Fort Moutrie.
It is know that B.P. used references from literature to hide clues.  This may be
one of them, albeit a far fetched connection.
Getting back to the question of the image,
the Charleston coastline is littered with lions heads on posts.
I have found nothing to indicate that Sullivan’s Island has the same motifs,
but if you are south of the Fort and are deciding upon trees – a lion’s
image would be certainly good omen.

Some thoughts.
I still believe that this image goes with verse 5.  Here is my proposed location of the casque:
“Lane
Two Twenty Two”
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7589 … ton4gh.jpg
One enters Sullivan’s Island on Station 22 1/2.  Possible interpretations are the second Station 22, or two lane road 22.
“You’ll see an arc of lights”
I really believe that this refers to the lighthouse.  When this idea was brought up before, it was quickly denounced since the beam of light is not really an arc, but the path the beam takes across the sky can definitely be referred to as an arc.  Considering the light from Sullivan’s Island Lighthouse can be seen for over 20 miles, I am sure it can be seen from Station 22 1/2.
“Weight and roots extended
Together saved the site
Of granite walls
Wind swept halls”
In my opinion, this is the strongest argument for verse 5 with image 2.  The association of Fort Moultrie and palmetto logs has been mentioned several times in the thread already, so I won’t delve into it.  Fort Moultrie does in fact have granite walls.
“Citadel in the night
A wingless bird ascended
Born of ancient dreams of flight”
I believe this refers to the lighthouse itself.  It is within walking distance from Fort Moultrie.  The wingless bird could refer to the elevator (quite a novelty for a lighthouse), or the lighthouse itself.  The ancient dreams of flight could be a play on the word flight (of stairs) or should read, “ancient dreams of light.  When spoken, this phrase is indistinguishable from the phrase in the poem.  I have also supposed that it could refer to the Bible story of The Tower of Babble where the people of the earth try to build a tower to reach the heavens.
“Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
To the south
White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side”
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7310 … use1xm.jpg
That’s the lighthouse at the top of the picture.  The circled Rock is about 53 due West from the circled tree.  Both are south of the lighthouse.  While there are scattered trees around (very few), this is too good to pass up, and they may not have been there in 1982.  They are very small.  12 Paces is about 60 feet, and 53 is close enough for me.  In addition, Google earth could be 7 feet off easily.
As an alternate location,
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/2358/4beach8hl.jpg
This location is directly south of Fort Moultrie.  One tree is noticeable separate from the rest (south along the beach), and the area is littered with white granite boulders.  I talked to the Ranger at Fort Moultrie, and he said that they had been artificially put there, and had been there as long as he could remember.  More than one boulder would also bring to reason why BP mentioned the
closest
white rock.
“Get permission
To dig out.”
I don’t know why this would be mentioned in this verse but not the others.  If the second location is correct, it could refer to the tide.  12 paces would put one very close to the shore.  Perhaps even close enough that one would only be able to dig with the tide down.
Next week, I will be going to Charleston to check out both locations and maybe even dig.  Any information or advice you could give before then would be very helpful.
I’m sorry if anything here is incoherent or unreadable.  If it is, let me know and I will try to clear it up.

How appropriate for a lobster to go trolling on
a beach
For the most part, I agree with your assessment, but
as we all know on here, that feet equal miles,
so a few observations:
http://www.charlestongateway.com/sullivans.htm
“Lane
Two twenty two.”
As you’ve stated.
“You’ll see an arc of lights”
As you’ve stated.
“Weight and roots extended…
… Wind swept halls”
As you’ve stated.
Now see my link and see where
the Fort is in relation to the
lighthouse.  You’ve passed the lighthouse
and made the right and drove
almost a mile to get to the Fort.
I believe that from burial site,
(the forest to the south) you’ll
be in direct sight (to the west)
of Fort Sumpter.
Without being there, the “only standing
memeber of a forest to the south”
should be between the Fort and the shore.
KEEP IN MIND
The casque is beneath THE ONLY STANDING MEMBER
The white rock is only there to confirm that you
have the correct tree.  The rock at twelve paces is NOT
the burial ste.
There should be no other rocks within twelve paces of the
“tree” except for the one from the west side.
Looking south from the Fort to the water is the direction in
which the canonns fired to protect themselves from the British.
So the only standing member should be a palmetto, which are
a protected tree on Sullivan.  If someone sees you near it with a shovel,
they may get the wrong impression.
Good luck. Take some pictues.  Look for a lion.

Fort Moutrie property extends beyond the Fort itself.
The whole of the land between Middle Street to the Southern shore
at station twelve is considered the owned by the National Park system,
there-by, “get prmission”.
(Why can I not post photos)
Anyways, mapquest: 1214 Middle Street, Sullivan’s Island, SC
and notice the line of sight of Sumpter to the place
you are going to be searching.
This is the place.

I think the first place to look
is at the tree in the photo,
beyond the flag pole.
http://www.nps.gov/fomo/pphtml/activities.html
Really do not know how anyone can be sure of anything
here without digging.
The twelve paces is a confirmer, but probably not a certain.
The fact that he mentions a rock as a confirmer makes me think
these grounds are well manicured and the rocks are not
haphazard.
“A wingless bird ascended
Born of ancient dreams of light”
To me has always reminded me of two things:
helicopter
underground railroad (save escapes)
Have never been able to pin those two things directly
onto here.  Indirectly, yes.

http://community.iexplore.com/planning/ … rie#photos
see the first photo here.
The last standing member should be visible.
Look out and see Fort Sumpter.

Great info.  I have a few questions though.
First, you stated that the burial site should be a place where one can see for Sumpter.  What is this suggestion based on?  I couldn’t really figure it out from you’re post, but that’s probably my fault.
Second, thanks for pointing out that the burial site is under the tree, not the rock.  I completely missed that.  I guess I couldn’t see the forest for the tree…
Next, Where did you get your information about the protection of palmetto trees?  Were they protected in 1982?  If so, that could be the basis of the necessity of permission at this site.
Finally, the tree in the picture at the NPS website definitely looks promising, but I was told by the ranger at Ft. Moultrie that there was no way I would be allowed to dig on NPS property.  He was a nice enough guy, but it sounded like a strict no-digging policy.
Thanks for the speedy response.
EDIT:  Has anyone tried to get in touch with the artist of the images?  I am at a loss for his name, but the previous process of confirming the location with BP is definitely preferable to just running out and digging.  Do you think he’d be willing to confirm a location if he could?

Here is a novel idea….
The first time I was at Fort Moultrie, a friend and I stumbled upon it. We enjoyed reading the battle history from the Revolution and the Civil War, but we enjoyed even more sitting on the large granite (SC’s state rock) stones along the coast and watching the sunset. This is a great spot for watching ships come into harbor in the evening, watching gulls and dolphins. During that first visit, there was no one there that evening, and we sat on the rocks in silence, listened to the waves pound, felt the salt blowing on our faces, and watched the sails in the sunset. How romantic!
The second time I went to the fort, it was harder to find. You have to follow the signs to Sullivan’s Island, and then look for signs to Fort Moultrie. That evening, during July, the fort was more crowded. Several other couples were also on the rocks along the coast. But the waves are so loud that you can’t hear them talking. It was neat, all of us sitting on the rocks and relaxing. And that evening we saw dolphins.
Could our “wingless bird acsended” be a dolphin?!
Answers:  The Palmetto is the state tree of south carolina.
Found the protection clauses in the park system
rules and regs.
If B.P. stated you need permission back in 1982, could be
virtually impossible these days.
My Fort Sumpter visual is based upon two things:
“Citadel in the night” and The linking image to this verse.
The things in the image should be visable, within proper perspective,
when you are digging.

A few pages back, someone mentioned how most of the image is a map.  Following his reasoning, the Pearman bridge, Station 22 1/2, and Fort Sumter all fall in proper proportions on a real map.  I believe that the gem is somewhat of an ‘X’ on the map.  It’s right where Fort Moutlrie is.
If the lone tree is south of the fort instead of the lighthouse, Fort Sumter would definitely be visable.  I don’t know about that lion though…
Has anyone ever made a proposition on what exactly the map on the lion’s head is?  I’ve tried to match it up with many parts of Sullivan’s Island’s geography, but to no avail.

Just an odd coincidence, picked up period encyclopedias and when looking through “D” pamphlet fell out for animal park in Charleston. The books were 1978 edition, links should be public , cheers
Exterior
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bud6hcSgry3/
Interior
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bud6jgHgRaq/

Eastcoast

Just an odd coincidence, picked up period encyclopedias and when looking through “D” pamphlet fell out for animal park in Charleston. The books were 1978 edition, links should be public , cheers
Exterior
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bud6hcSgry3/
Interior
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bud6jgHgRaq/

Nice find, thanks for sharing.

Ooh, nice. Please share more from these encyclopedias in as much as they might apply to each of the puzzles.

Macfos

I am going to start up the Peninsula and go to Wragg & Marion Square this weekend. Will take lots of photos of the parks and surroundings and some notes as well.
Regards,
Mac

Mac,
I did a quick visual scan of the squares. Wragg appears to be very small and somewhat featureless. Marion is much more interesting. Former home of the Citadel if I am correct and the HUGE statue of Calhoun. I’m trying to see features around the park, but not having much luck. Maybe you can get some photos of interesting building near there. I believe everyone wants to see jagged teeth and stuff like that to match the masks in Image 2.

Marion Square and the surrounding it is. Going tomorrow morning. Will photo all statues/monuments/iron work, etc in the park and the surrounding buildings.
Regards,
Mac

Macfos

Marion Square and the surrounding it is. Going tomorrow morning. Will photo all statues/monuments/iron work, etc in the park and the surrounding buildings.
Regards,
Mac

Thanks. Just to save you some time: Looks like the Marion square main plaque, the plaque by the statue, and the sign explaining the defeat by the British are all clearly posted on GIS>

Get the hornwork in M sq , if you can please. Maybe that forehead blotch is on the stone or something

Minotaur_moreno

IMHO, anyone that thinks it was in the children’s zoo, is just completely wrong. Why does that make me the bad guy?

Are you in the correct thread?

ThEre’s a huge stone there that used to be part of a defensive wall that held off the British. The rock extends well underground…
Weight and roots extended
Together saved the site
Of granite walls
Wind swept halls
Citadel in the night

shecrab

Erm….the apple AND the pear are members of the rose family. The pear is not a member of the “apple family.”  And what about the
Pear
man bridge????
Besides…this fountain is in Waterfront park, and that
park wasn’t opened until 1990.

Thanks for clearing up the apple/ pear family relation. What I was trying to point out is I think it is enough that they are in the same family. Good find Shecrab on the Pineapple Fountain built in 1990. Did you find anything on why they chose a pinapple in your search? Seems like a curious choice.

The pineapple is a symbol of hospitality in Colonial America. You see the motif repeated in many ways–if you crochet, you’ll know the famous “Pineapple” doilies; if you look at early American fabrics and prints, you’ll see pineapples depicted; if you look at decorative motifs on furniture (esp. the legs and pedestals of tables) you’ll see pineapples carved in the wood.

Missed it by THAT much…
It appears White Point Garden has been dug…for the first, and last, time.
Where the sandy path was once hard-packed, it is loose and appears freshly tilled. Where once there weren’t holes, there appears to now be. The remaining depression leaves one wondering if an object has been removed.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

UnprovenFact

Missed it by THAT much…
It appears White Point Garden has been dug…for the first, and last, time.
Where the sandy path was once hard-packed, it is loose and appears freshly tilled. Where once there weren’t holes, there appears to now be. The remaining depression leaves one wondering if an object has been removed.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

Soooooo many diggers went down there last weekend to watch the show. If something had been found you would know.

UnprovenFact

Missed it by THAT much…
It appears White Point Garden has been dug…for the first, and last, time.
Where the sandy path was once hard-packed, it is loose and appears freshly tilled. Where once there weren’t holes, there appears to now be. The remaining depression leaves one wondering if an object has been removed.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

Sandy path?
With the epiphany that I have had over the last couple of days I’m thinking under the gnarly branch tip center screen also the nexus of lines:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7698338 … 312!8i6656
Or possibly:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7698339 … 312!8i6656
The sort of vertical area strip where it is a bit sandy as that was the nexus of lines again.
Was another tempter for me under the branch due to the first part of my latest epiphany:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7698113 … 312!8i6656
I sort of moused over those first two areas in this post toward the end of the video but the first link I have tied to more meaning recently.
Is sandy path on the opposite side of the tree in the last link near Jasper?
Post google map views of the areas disturbed like I did.
Also come to think of it Josh Gates went to the artist exhibition in Ohio and probably showed him the cask if they found it for dramatic effect .

TreasureBloke

With the epiphany that I have had over the last couple of days I’m thinking under the gnarly branch tip .

while rates are different for every tree,
a live oak branch can gain 24 inches or more in a single growing season,
You do realize that the casque was buried 38 years ago…
24″ x 38 years… 76 feet of growth….
2 category 4 hurricanes
and at least 5 tropical storms….
That you are considering “Under the gnarly branch tip””
The trees you are looking at really look nothing like they did in 1981
they have undoubtedly been pruned cultivated,trimmed and sometimes even replaced.

maltedfalcon

while rates are different for every tree,
a live oak branch can gain 24 inches or more in a single growing season,
You do realize that the casque was buried 38 years ago…
24″ x 38 years… 76 feet of growth….
2 category 4 hurricanes
and at least 5 tropical storms….
That you are considering “Under the gnarly branch tip””
The trees you are looking at really look nothing like they did in 1981
they have undoubtedly been pruned cultivated,trimmed and sometimes even replaced.

Sort of, it was merely a convenient way to say where it was.

i realize that the factual origin of the mask has been discovered, but could it be Osceola’s death mask/missing head?

bclews

Weren’t Thucy and Xeno (currently linked to Boston) also at the Cleveland location?

Yes they were.  The lion face is also the one in the fountain in the Cleveland pic.  If an order to things does exist, it may coincide with the the birth months, actually, or the number of each verse.  Also, BP had stated that as he recalls, there was a clock painted on the inside cover of each casque, showing a different time, but he did not recall the significance.  Our Chicago finders, if we can ever get in contact with them, may be able to tell us what is under the cover.  Mine is in too many pieces to tell.  It is a painting of some sort.  Also, I have to apologize for not getting in touch with John Jude Palencar.  I will attempt to do that very soon.

Trohn, I agree with your linking here.  I too have been noticing A LOT of “same things” in different pix.  I dont have my notes with me but if I remember some, I will toss them out.

fox

Trohn, I agree with your linking here.  I too have been noticing A LOT of “same things” in different pix.  I dont have my notes with me but if I remember some, I will toss them out.

Weren’t Thucy and Xeno (currently linked to Boston) also at the Cleveland location?

We will be heading to Charleston today, and returning tomorrow night. I hope to have an opportunity to visit White Point Gardens and Ft. Sumter, but it is doubtful I will have a chance to visit anywhere else of significance. I will take lots of pictures, because I often miss things that others are able to see.
I discovered that it is still permissible, even today, to take one’s own boat to Ft. Sumter and avoid the ferry. If the same was true in 1981, BP would have had no difficulty smuggling a shovel onto the island under cover of night.
I’m just sayin’.

Keep your eyes out for two twenty-two.

I don’t have a logic trail for this, but it is associated with hunting, and has a lighthouse nearby.  The date 1913 precedes the building of this structure which was in the 1920’s.
The Whalehead Club, note how the dormers and the two off-level gables are on both sides, it’s oddly reminiscent of the “mouth” on the Sumter clock.

It’s interesting, but Preiss would not have had access to that view of the club in 1980, enough to take a photo for Palencar to incorporate into the painting.

I had that same thought, only the ground perspective has the same effect.  Nine dormers per side looks like ^^^^^^^^^.  The Sumter clock looks truncated like <^^^^^^> and better compares to the space between the peaks.  The 1980 perspective would be a badly damaged, defunct and run down building.  I don’t think it was even on the historic places register at the time.  Nearby there was a white house however, where the Keepers of the lighthouse lived.  The most bothersome part is how far north this is deviating from Sumter and it is walking distance from Roanoke which is the image 3 consensus…

Spending time looking at the area over the lion’s eye…
I saw a horse…Anyone else see it?
Maybe there is a street name related to
horse, pony, mustang, bronco…Many brains thinking about
this may find something.
AP

ap i see your horse
i think i pointed out a mule or horse, in an old pic of
white point, way back in the threads, ill go see if i can find
it, cant remember if it was part of the garden, or just …..

It figures you would be the one to spot this,
Animal Painter
.

There are 4 horse-drawn carriage tour companies clumped together
just East of Meeting St. in the historic area.

cw0909,
Reading the reviews of The Battery and White Point Gardens,
people remark about the “ubiquitous” horse-drawn carriages
in the parks catching their eyes.
AP

I don’t believe there is a permanent fixture in White Point Gardens with a horse on it.
The carriage tours do come down as far as the Battery by way of Meeting and East Bay streets. Some use horses, most use mules.
Monuments in the Battery/White Point Park
Monument to the Confederate Defenders of Charleston
Maine Capstan (replaced with Gen Moultrie)
Stede Bonnet marker
Daughters of the Confederacy Fountain
William Gilmore Simms
The Bandstand
Second South Carolina Regiment
Childrens Fountain
USS Amberjack SS-219 Memorial
USS Wasp/USS Hobson saliors obelisk/sundial
Mortars and Canons
There is a view of Fort Sumter and Castle Pinckney but no shots were fired from here on to Sumter, but there was a big party here during the bombardment.
There used to be many more cannons but I believe they were moved before the Treasures were buried. The park is currently under going renovations and the Bandstand is mostly disassembled.

Looking at image 2…
The areas inside the wings to each side of the lady’s torso…
look something like marine mammal flippers with toenails, like you would see
on manatees.  Maybe referring to Manatee Warning signs in the harbor.
Still searching.
AP

Every time I look at image 2, it reminds me of a painting I did
years ago….
animal painter…aka AP

erexere

A Christmas raffle in 1980 gained me a Sonar One-step and a lifetime supply of color film. It was an awesome camera.

does that mean you still get polaroid film? that would be a cool trick.

I got about 2 years of good use out of it. I brought home 2 dozen packs of film initially but they screwed me out of collecting packs in the future when they said I was actually too young to have entered the raffle in the first place. I didnt have any immediate family to help me so someone I didnt know who was over 18 helped me collect what I could, but then they retained the voucher to continue collecting film.

maltedfalcon

I wish I had a polaroid sx-70 with film to go to my locations and take photos, I think the distortion/focal length would make it easier to identify the actual spots he viewed things from

This is the image 2 thread so I wont discuss the frustration involved in the Image 1 “Gh” being the Ghirardelli building.

Here is Revision 4 of my proposed Charleston Theory.
Let’s talk about methodology, shall we?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pqkh6j2cs89ph … 4.pdf?dl=0

One more vote for I2 being Charleston SC
The shadow on the right side of the lion’s forhead…
http://www.kickoffzone.com/articles/ima … _Logo1.jpg
If you google map Charleston SC and hit satelite then look at fort Sumpter you can even see the flagpole in the middle of the perfectly shaped fort.
The Shadow on the map part of the mask is very similar to the outline shape of the lighthouse on Sullivan’s Island.
The bronzed skin butterfly lady is wearing a bikini of sorts appropriate for being at the beach and if you put her wings together you should see a clear symbol of a sea turtle.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procgtaserv/4 … 2bJo0ZM2Xg

I think it was bclews who noticed this (can’t find the relevant post), but I believe that the fairy’s wings resemble the cannons and cannonballs in White Point Gardens.  Here’s a picture to help illustrate:

Jambone,
I really like that cannon similarity!
AP

to me cw, it all flows very nicely.  only problem is…if the park won’t let you dig to unearth the treasure, would they have allowed BP to bury it there?  I know, it has been said that he sometimes snuck into sites to bury but I don’t forsee him sneaking into a site to bury a casque only for it to be never legally retrieved.  Sounds to me like we need to find an adventurous person with a liking to treasure hunting who works in the parks service to spin them our tale.
over all, well laid out cw.

Well, I’m finally back home in the US, and naturally I hand-carried my copy of “The Secret” on the plane so I could hit the ground running! I’m kind of ashamed to admit this but after ten years of living in Charleston I’d never actually taken the ferry tour out to Fort Sumter, so I kind of felt obligated to hit up that spot before heading on to Fort Moultrie. It’s an amazing tour and I’d highly recommend it, but as previous posters have noted it would have been next-to-impossible for Byron Preiss to hide anything on the grounds of Fort Sumter during an hour-long visit.
So, on to Fort Moultrie we went! I’ve added a few more photos below, but if anyone needs to see anything different please let me know…I took a ton of shots!
As far as all the possible Edgar Allen Poe references, I wasn’t entirely sold on any of these until I got on the ground and saw the place for myself. (It’s probably been 12 years or so since I’ve gotten out to Sullivan’s, and I’d only been to Fort Moultrie once.) Before you even cross onto Sullivan’s, there’s a little marsh island called “Goldbug Island” at the foot of the bridge. The event center doesn’t look like it has any connection to the hunt, but if we’re viewing Image 2 as a possible roadmap then the location would fit in there perfectly. I’m not sure what (if any) signage this facility would have had up back in 1982, though.
Also, I stopped in to the tiny branch of the Charleston County Public Library while I was up here. The great staff was very helpful…thanks CCPL! That building is also named after Poe, and the facility itself actually used to be part of Fort Moultrie. I think I remember reading this somewhere before, but apparently “Tamerlane” is the title of one of Poe’s most famous poems, and the author actually used “Tamerlane” as a pseudonym at an early point in his writing career. I couldn’t find any solid proof that this connection was related to “Lane Two”, though.
As far as that “arc of light”, I’m satisfied that this could be the Charleston Light as we thought. That lighthouse has a unique rotating beacon which could be poetically described as an arc, and it’s visible as soon as you arrive on Sullivan’s. The light can be easily seen from both Middle Street and Fort Moultrie during the daytime, but the “arc” strobing effect is definitely more noticeable at night.
On the way to the Fort, I also stopped to take a photo of Mugdock Castle, which is only a few houses down from the Visitor’s Center. Although this is a privately-owned home/rental facility now, it used to be the Post Chapel when the Fort was in use. I couldn’t find any period photos of the facade, but I read on the Castle’s website that the front of the building has not changed despite a recent, modern addition in the rear. Could these windows have been the inspiration for the “eyes” in the Fort Sumter pendant?
Also, it seems like there were crosses everywhere! This one is from the cornerstone of Mugdock Castle, facing the sidewalk of Middle Street, but there was also a simpler design on the gravestone of General Moultrie, which is located on the waterfront behind the Visitor’s Center.
Then, I took a few minutes to walk around the grounds of Stella Maris church next door. Unfortunately it wasn’t open so I couldn’t go in, but I didn’t see anything that made me suspect that building was involved in the hunt. Another user had marked an online image of a World War II monument as a possible marker for the “white stone”, but I was unable to locate that stone in the area. I couldn’t tell whether I was in the wrong spot, or if perhaps the marker had been moved at some point.
After wandering around outside for a while, I finally stopped in to the Visitor’s Center to buy a ticket and check out the exhibits. NPS has a small but amazing presentation on the slave trade, and NPS did a great job of explaining the role that Sullivan’s Island played. If Byron Preiss really had intended to tell the story of African immigration with Image 2, there’s no more relevant place.
Outside, the fort’s old Torpedo Storehouse is now the Administrative Offices for Fort Sumter National Monument. It looks like the naval torpedo mine would also have been in place back in 1982, and it’s definitely visible from my proposed dig site. I wasn’t able to find any direct references to the “pear” shape of these mines, though, so that information would have had to come from a tour guide or a reference book.
Also, here’s a present-day view of the sallyport, looking down from the observation deck atop the Visitor’s Center. This is only my opinion, but I think that the sallyport looks awfully “lionesque” if you squint at it! If you look at that view through an artist’s eyes, the leaves of those tall palmetto trees (installed in 1975) could bear a resemblance to a lion’s mane.
From there, Osceola’s grave and the Patapsco monument are right across Middle Street. I noticed that there was no reference to Osceola’s ostrich feather headdress, so again, that information would have had to come from either a tour guide, a history book, or one of the other area attractions (like the Charleston Museum downtown, where I found this painting.)
The Patapsco monument obelisk next to it was very hard to read, since it looked like it was in need of a cleaning. I had to take cell-phone photos and mess with the filters in order to read all the names, but I wanted to be sure that there were no sailors named “West” who died at sea. There weren’t any other possibilities for a “West” side, so I think that Byron Preiss probably had his cardinal directions correct at this site.
“At twelve paces, from the west side” would put you against the brick wall of the fort’s Northwest Bastion if you measured a pace as one full, two-footed stride. This measurement is still a little unclear to me since I also “paced” off twelve heel-to-toe steps, which wound up being about half that distance to the brick wall. Some of the old photos I pulled up showed a small (cypress??) shrub standing on that same spot, which could easily have been used as a marker. And just as a side note, even though Sullivan’s Island was “ground zero” when Hurricane Hugo hit back in 1989, it looks like this particular piece of ground hasn’t changed any since 1982, with the exception of the missing trees of course!
For me, though, the main selling point for this particular dig site is that it’s relatively quiet and remote—Byron Preiss could have quickly and easily dug a spot here in the middle of the night, even if the dig site is in full view of the street. Also, the Visitor’s Center on Middle Street was created for America’s bicentennial, so it would have been a new and notable attraction during that era. I’d love to have the opportunity to review some of the Fort’s brochures or exhibits from 1982…as I write this the city of Charleston is planning to go ahead with construction of an African-American museum downtown, and it’d be fascinating to see how much attention this same story got only 35 years ago!
So anyway, I’ve marked the spot for both NPS and the South Carolina State Archaeologist, so please keep your fingers crossed that either one of them might have reason to dig/excavate around the sallyport in the near future. I’d love to be able to close this casque out and stop calling my ideas a “theory”!

My initial impression of the mask has always been that it is a map of New York City.
Manhatten in the center.  Queens and Brooklyn are to the east.  New Jersey is to the west.  Staten Island to the southwest.  Roosevelt Island is in the East River between Manhatten and Queens.
Maybe on Roosevelt Island?  Teddy Roosevelt liked to go on Safari.  A statue of him stands outside the museum of Natural History, which contains many African artifacts.
However, I never felt that anything else in the picture led to New York.

My theory was a bust.
I had a meeting with two Generals at the Citadel College of Charleston. They were very eager to help in any way possible and very excited about the actual hunt. Number one, they were there in 1981 and have no record of Mr. Preiss being there. Number two, the helicopter was not placed till 1996, and other monuments have been moved to different locations since that time. All in all, Summerall Field is not the location of the casque.
I did take a good look at the forehead of the lion. The pattern is a reverse image of the waterways of Charleston. I can easily match the distinctive shape of an inlet near Road 703 and the Cooper and Wando rivers.

dellucc

… I can easily match the distinctive shape of an inlet near Road 703 and the Cooper and Wando rivers.

LOL! I have a Wando athletics shirt on today. Brings back good memories.
BTW – way to go making some progress in the hunt by being physically involved!

Perhaps a plaque/monument at the site includes these numbers.

Like this one?
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/550856866/2994455360091493633APJIkW
This sign was only recently erected, but perhaps it replaces an older one…

So, I believe I have found the “iconic” building image in Image 2… It aligns just right and appears when you are standing at the correct spot, just like Milwaukee! I don’t want to give it away though because I feel like it will tie together quite a bit, and because it gives us a definitive search location. I’m going to see if dellucc wants to take a crack at a theory that I (and one other player) have before I let the “cat” out of the bag.

Glossiphoniidae

So, I believe I have found the “iconic” building image in Image 2… It aligns just right and appears when you are standing at the correct spot, just like Milwaukee! I don’t want to give it away though because I feel like it will tie together quite a bit, and because it gives us a definitive search location. I’m going to see if dellucc wants to take a crack at a theory that I (and one other player) have before I let the “cat” out of the bag.

Please tell me it’s got to do with the lines behind the pear & daisy, and the “sunglasses” shape…I can’t line those up with anything.

Also, has anyone looked at the base of the Confederate Defenders monument as the pattern in the wings (instead of cannonballs or cobblestones)? Cannonballs are so uniform, and the spacing between the stones on Chalmers St. seems too great. These seem like a pretty good match IMO.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7693757 … PA!2e0!3e5

It is granite. I did not probe the area just to the west, but that does make sense. A reason to go back!  I think I’ll have the power lines marked and bring a ground penetrating radar too.

Anybody notice these two shovels in image2 and 3?  Very closely positioned to #’s in the images.
http://www.freewebs.com/patcash/shovels.htm

erexere

Vesey has been a focal point at times but I think there’s other considerations that might fit better.
Freedom also means Liberated.

erexere

“Freedom at the birth of a century” could be a person born in Liberia more than 100 years ago. Hilary Richard Wright Johnson (b. 1837) became the first African born President of Liberia in 1884.

erexere

The link that Charleston has to Liberia is significant and the connection of Liberia’s Edward Wilmot Blyden as referenced to naming of twins Edwin and Edwina in Abroad in America also derserves consideration.

Are you saying this is a reference to Liberia because freedom and liberation are synonyms? Why not just say “Liberated at the birth of a century” then?
I’m not sure I follow. Why would BP speak of “the birth of a century” if he was just talking about something that happened 100 years ago? And I don’t at all understand the connection to Hilary Richard Wright Johnson. He wasn’t born anything close to 100 years before BP buried the casks and he became president less than 100 years before BP buried the casks. Therefore, no connection to birth or century exists.
Every clue doesn’t have to connect to the same thing. For instance, the Haitian Revolution was also approximately at the birth of the 19th century and plenty of things COULD connect to that. I think BP mostly wanted to highlight a bunch of interesting historical truths about the places he buried the casques. There’s way too much Denmark Vesey evidence to deny it as the most likely interpretation. I don’t see any evidence that anything else “fits better.”

FlippinArkansas

Are you saying this is a reference to Liberia because freedom and liberation are synonyms? Why not just say “Liberated at the birth of a century” then?

FlippinArkansas

I’m not sure I follow. Why would BP speak of “the birth of a century” if he was just talking about something that happened 100 years ago? And I don’t at all understand the connection to Hilary Richard Wright Johnson. He wasn’t born anything close to 100 years before BP buried the casks and he became president less than 100 years before BP buried the casks. Therefore, no connection to birth or century exists.

FlippinArkansas

Every clue doesn’t have to connect to the same thing. For instance, the Haitian Revolution was also approximately at the birth of the 19th century and plenty of things COULD connect to that. I think BP mostly wanted to highlight a bunch of interesting historical truths about the places he buried the casques. There’s way too much Denmark Vesey evidence to deny it as the most likely interpretation. I don’t see any evidence that anything else “fits better.”

From the International Encyclopedia (pub. 1968)

On May 30, 1822, two enslaved Afrikans betrayed Denmark Vesey, a free Afrikan who was planning the largest rebellion of enslaved Afrikans in United States history involving some 9,000 people.
Telemaque, later known as “Denmark Vesey” was born around 1767, probably on the Caribbean island of Saint Thomas. Joseph Vesey, a Carolina-based slaver, purchased the boy in 1781 as part of a cargo of 390 bondpeople. During the passage to the French colony of Saint-Domingue (Haiti), Vesey noticed the child’s “beauty, alertness, and intelligence” and employed him as a cabin boy. But when the ship reached Cap François, the captain “had no use for the boy” and turned him over to his colonial agents. Either traumatized by his new life in Saint-Domingue or feigning illness, the child began to display “epileptic fits.” Returned to the docks, a physician “certified that the lad” was unwell, which cancelled the sale. When Joseph Vesey returned to Cap François on April 23, 1782, with a new cargo of Gold Coast slaves, he was forced to take the child back. The fits promptly ceased, and Vesey decided to keep him as a servant.
Charleston authorities later described the child as a person of “superior power of mind & the more dangerous for it.” The captain saw only the value of a tall, muscular boy already conversant in two languages. Vesey gave the boy a new name, Telemaque, after the son of Homer’s Odysseus; over time, Carolina bondmen either punned or corrupted the name into Denmak, and then finally Denmark.
In the spring of 1783, following the British evacuation of South Carolina, Joseph Vesey settled into Charleston as a ship chandler. At some point during this period, Denmark married an enslaved woman named Beck. Beck had several masters over the course of her life, but she remained married to Denmark long enough to give birth to at least three of his children. Two of his sons were named Polydore and Robert; a third, Sandy, would be the only child to be implicated in his 1822 plot. Toward the end of his life, Denmark Vesey married again. His last wife, Susan, was born enslaved around 1795. She was the only woman to carry his surname. Some historians have speculated that Vesey practiced polygamy, although no evidence exists to support the theory.
On September 30, 1799, Denmark happened upon a handbill announcing the “East-Bay Lottery,” and bought a ticket. In November, Charleston newspapers declared his ticket the winner. The prize was $1,500, a princely sum that slaves who hired their time would take ten years to acquire. Joseph Vesey agreed to sell Denmark his freedom for $600; the contract was signed on December 31, 1799. After seventeen years as a Charleston slave, the thirty-three-year-old Denmark was free.
Chained to the South by family ties, Denmark remained in the city and apprenticed himself to a carpenter, an easy trade to learn and a lucrative business as Charleston expanded up the peninsula. At the same time, he adopted Vesey as a surname, probably as a linguistic tie to an established businessman whose name could help to secure clients. Vesey threw his enormous energies into his business, and according to one former slave, Denmark labored “every day at de trade of carpenter” and “soon became much [re]spected” and “esteem[ed] by de white folks.” But because of competition from white carpenters, free mulattoes (whose fathers provided business contacts), and enslaved craftsmen (who lived with their masters and paid no rent), Vesey barely maintained a modest income. Despite published claims made in 1822 that he died a rich man worth nearly $8,000, there is no evidence that Vesey ever owned a single piece of property.
Around 1818 Vesey joined the city’s new African Methodist Episcopal congregation, the center of Charleston’s enslaved community. Sandy Vesey also joined, as did four of Vesey’s closest friends: Peter Poyas, a literate ship carpenter; Monday Gell, an African-born Ibo who labored as a harness maker; Rolla Bennett, the manservant of Governor Thomas Bennett; and “Gullah” Jack Pritchard, an East African priest and woodworker purchased in Zinguebar in 1806. The temporary closure of the church by city authorities in June 1818 and the arrest of 140 congregants, one of them presumably Vesey, reinforced the determination of black Carolinians to maintain a place of independent worship and established the motivation for Vesey’s conspiracy. In 1820 several “Negroes was taken up” for holding a late-night service at the church, and city authorities warned that they would not tolerate class leaders conducting instructional “schools for slaves,” as “the education of such persons was forbidden by law.” The “African Church was the people,” Gell replied. He and Pritchard had considered insurrection in 1818, “and now they had begun again to try it.”
At the age of fifty-one, Vesey briefly thought about emigrating to the English colony of Sierra Leone. But as Beck’s children remained slaves, Vesey resolved instead to orchestrate a rebellion, followed by a mass exodus from Charleston to Haiti. President Jean-Pierre Boyer had recently encouraged black Americans to bring their skills and capital to his beleaguered republic. Vesey did not intend to tarry in Charleston long enough for white military power to present an effective counterassault. “As soon as they could get the money from the Banks, and the goods from the stores,” Rolla insisted, “they should hoist sail” for Saint-Domingue and live as free men.
Vesey planned the escape for nearly four years. His chief lieutenants included Poyas, Gell, Rolla Bennett, and “Gullah” Jack Pritchard. Although there are no reliable figures for the number of recruits, Charleston alone was home to 12,652 slaves. Pritchard, probably with some exaggeration, boasted that he had 6,600 recruits on the plantations across the Cooper and Ashley rivers. The plan called for Vesey’s followers to rise at midnight on Sunday, July 14—Bastille Day—slay their masters, and sail for Haiti and freedom. As one southern editor later conceded: “The plot seems to have been well devised, and its operation was extensive.”
The plot unraveled in June 1822 when two slaves revealed the plan to their owners. Mayor James Hamilton called up the city militia and convened a special court to try the captured insurgents. Vesey was captured at Beck’s home on June 21 and hanged on July 2, together with Rolla, Poyas, and three other rebels. In all, thirty-five slaves were executed. Forty-two others, including Sandy Vesey, were sold outside the United States; some, if not all, became slaves in Spanish Cuba. Robert Vesey lived to rebuild the African Church in the fall of 1865.

I think Preiss made a conscious choice to use the word freedom over liberated. Why that would be the case, I’m still guessing. For instance, I like the idea that “birth of a century” applies to the start or founding of our nation in 1776 and that “a century” could apply equally to either the first 100 years or second 100 years passing, thus the years 1877 and 1977 might pertain. I thought to cross reference Freedom and those dates and I discovered an interesting recipient for the Presidential Medal of Freedom, awarded to First Lady “Bird” Johnson in 1977. The subject of “birds” in the verse then being an important aspect of catching the reference to that particular First Lady.
I feel it’s important to explore Charleston’s connection to Liberia. Discovered in Abroad in America (pub. 1976) Edward Wilmot Blyden is a direct link to twins named Edwin and Edwina. After his stay in the United States in 1874, he traveled back to Liberia and wrote many letters supporting further efforts to emigrate freed African Americans, primarily the “Negro” as opposed to the “Mulatto”. In 1878, a steamship left Charleston’s port in what was known as the Liberian Exodus.
http://docsouth.unc.edu/church/liberian/liberian.html
Hilary R.W. Johnson is just a guess on my part. I wouldn’t rule him out just for not being born exactly 100 years before Preiss hid the casques. His birth is significant in the same way as we would recognize Virginia Dare in N.C., she being the first “White” child born in the British Colonies of the New World, while Johnson is the first African born person in Liberia of African American decent. Consider the birth reference in the Litany of the Jewels: Africa’s Diamond, earth born star, bright harvest of the midnight rock. I think it’s justifiable to consider a connection to President Johnson of Liberia. At this time, the only conclusion I’m able to make is that the name “Johnson” helps us connect the events of the murder reported on April 8th, 1873 at the Cape Romaine Lighthouse by Keeper Andrew Johnson.
There’s good historic context to consider Vesey’s role in Charleston, but I’m not absolutely sure the verse has him in mind when it says “Freedom at the birth of a century”. We have to keep asking ourselves WHY each piece of the verse/image puzzle is relevant. I agree that ever clue doesn’t need to connect to the same thing. Often in the past, I would try too hard to establish multiple connects. Now, I try to see why a connection is necessary and to establish the accessibility of the supporting clues. I can Google all day, but that doesn’t help me if someone couldn’t pull out an Encyclopedia and look up something like this fine example for Denmark Vesey:

Hey secret fans,
I visited Charleston last week.  Lovely city, worth visiting.  I have an updated photo of the Persephone statue behind the Gibbes Museum, which I will upload later.
Unfortunately, I didn’t stumble upon a casque or even a new clue.  We walked all around the Gibbes and Gateway Walk looking for clues.  No avail.
I feel like the shape in the mask eyes that exerexe is referring to as “clouds with rain drops” may be the next physical clue.  Just a hunch.  Maybe we can recruit a searcher from the College of Charleston or the Citadel.  Seems like this hunt would be fun for a local college student.
AnotherDoth

erexere

I’m drawn to the simple observation of the female form combined with a common term description that is the pear-shape.  The narrow upper portion followed by the wider lower portion.  woman + pear = shape description.

I am at a loss on this one… Do you really think BP would insinuate woman are pear shaped and that we need to make that connection as part of solving a clue?

I know a rebus has been brought up for Image 2 with the “Pearman” Bridge, but what about the tips of the clock hands as “white point/points” for White Point Garden?
Have I read this before? Either way, I think it’s a pretty solid indicator of the park for the area…

The wing tips of the moth look like the “white points” for that interpretation.

As for the cloud with rain drops symbol, I think it should be worth considering the idea that the “cool clear sound of water,” which we should be hearing might be the sound of rain drops. I feel this is a great link to a water cistern, which has rain water collection written all over it. I’ve already theorized that the bar (place to go have a drink) that binds (something that holds) could be a riddle about a cistern. A couple lines of verse AND a symbol on the image in the form a rain cloud together make a pretty sizable reference to ONE THING, which makes me really think a specific cistern barrel is our target goal for locating the next casque.

that sure is the Pits wilhouse…

The LotJ for this location, the
Diamond
seems to support the idea of a lighthouse.
V6 maybe supports the idea of a lighthouse. I’m thinking a “white house” might just be a “white light house”.
The image seems to be hiding the shape or outline of a tall structure, maybe that’s a lighthouse.
Of all the puzzles, this really seems to me a good candidate to use a lighthouse. I found a 1975 book about Lighthouses. Maybe it will contain something like a quote or other visual supporting evidence. (hope to get it in a week or so, will report back after I page through it.)

In order to reconcile the Edwin debate, here’s a crackpot theory that includes both.
This is a diamond puzzle; it’s going to be a tricky one. Now, “…the Fairy Spirits of Africa…fluttered down, like a windfall of butterflies, far from the tribal warfare and slave traders, upon…the New World’s eastern shore”. So, should we look for their treasure somewhere like Charleston’s Hampton Park, named after one of the biggest slaveholders for miles…? Or White Point Gardens, with its memorials to warfare…?
No, but further south, somewhere much more fitting to these fair folk; Savannah, Georgia.
(The change of coordinates can be done easily enough by digging out an 81 from somewhere.)
Here in the Savannah we find lions in abundance – four of them guard the base of Oglethorpe’s statue in Chippewa Square, with “arms extended” (coat of arms, that is).
Oglethorpe is a philanthropist, anti-slavery and general all round good egg. Edwin Booth played at the neighbouring Savannah Theatre several times, and as an added bonus it’s also next to the birthplace of Juliette Gordon Low, founder of the Girl Scouts of Lake Park fame. Because…fairy secrets come in twos…
…yes, I appreciate that there are numerous clues that lead directly to Charleston. But it’s all misdirection, you see, and the lion’s mask is slipping…

jstarr, you’re hooked so hopefully that will keep you coming back to The Secret, and I hope it will help you get through the bad times ahead.
it’s so good that you know the area, that is a big big plus.
every theory is possible until the casque is found.
what i liked about the downtown area was the “four corners of the law”, or something like that.
and that mask you mentioned, which someone said (cthree, i think, somewhere in this thread) , stands for “justice”, and everything is right there around that park.
there are pictures posted of that park, i even took some of that park when i went  to charleston.  it’s small and there is no way you could dig during the day because people are all around.
the pear that you are puzzled about, fit’s perfectly for charleston, as there was a pearman bridge (now Ravenel Bridge), there (it’s been awhile since i read all the posts)
when you go, please take lots of pictures and posts them for us, maybe you can convince us
, or even better………find the dang thing, lol
that was a good picture of that wrought iron, it really looks liek the butterfly lady’s hair, but i think someone had posted that b4 too…….not sure, i know there were a lot of wrought iron gate pictures for charleston.

Hello, I’m another lurker that has been visiting this forum and not posting.
Up until now The Secret is has been a secret between myself and my partner Laura. We began working on the hunt around three years ago when she was diagnosed with cancer. It was something we did together. We choose Image 2 for special attention because I’m from Charleston and that was were we met. We’ve made a lot of progress and had planned another recon trip in May to look at the location I’m going to propose, but her health declined and we couldn’t go. In a few days Laura will be gone and after I take care of what I have to here, I want to go home for a while. I’m posting this now because looking for this casque has become as much about her as finding a treasure or solving a puzzle. I want to continue in her honor just as many of you have been working this hunt in honor of Byron Preiss but I’m afraid I’ll lose heart if I try it alone.
So enough of the sad stuff, I intend to go to Charleston soon and if there’s anyone who wants to hunt with me, just let me know.
Here is my proposed solution. It isn’t complete but I think it’s getting there. I am referencing Image 2 and Verse 6. I will post the specifically image analysis here and the verse analysis separately.
THE IMAGE ANALYSIS
Longitude and Latitude
Lion’s main numbers: 33, 79 (upside down), 80, and 36. Charleston, SC (32.77°N 80.01°W)
Pine Branch
There is a loop in the pine branch in the middle left of the image. To me this enclosed shape looks like an outline of South Carolina. Stylized, but still South Carolina.
I think enough of these state shapes are showing up that they may be as consistent as the longitude and latitudes but my focus has been on this single image so I have not developed this theory further.
Pines are common in South Carolina but I feel this is mostly here to make the state shape. The pear being joined to a pine branch is interesting but I’ll write about it a little later.
Lion
Lions are a common decorative theme in Charleston. Door knockers, earthquake bolts, decorative medallions, fountains, statues, etc. I think the dark patches on the right of the lion’s forehead may reflect it’s origin as one of these architectural elements. Or it may be intended to blend the lion stylistically with the mask next to it.
I think this image is meant to establish an African theme.
The final location must have a strong African connection. I think this idea of site theme may have been a little under estimated. The Chicago treasure (Scots-Irish theme) was found in a park that borders the river dyed green each year for the St. Patrick’s Day parade. That is the largest St Patrick’s celebration in the country. The Cleveland treasure (Hellas) was found in gardens themed for Greece and Rome. Cleveland was the center of Greek immigration into Ohio.
City and park share the origin theme in both cases.
Charleston’s history with African Americans is long, varied and frequently regrettable. Charleston and New York were the largest slave holding cities in the colonies. One of the largest slave revolts in the early 1800’s happens in Charleston, The Confederate States secede from the Nation in Charleston and the Civil War begins in Charleston. African American’s found some of the their oldest and most influential churches in Charleston. These churches play a large part in the Liberian Exodus that starts in Charleston with the sailing of the Azor. And some of the most important court rulings on Civil Rights have a start in Charleston.
African is the theme, Charleston is the city, now for the park.
Larger Mask
The larger mask in the image is indeed a Fang Ngil. I believe the reference for this mask is from the Louvre’s collection. This is important because almost all the elements on the mask (except the map) are from the original mask. See the image at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fang_mask_Louvre_MH65-104-1.jpg
The mask has also been used recently on the cover of “Spirits Speak: A Celebration of African Masks”. The lighting in this cover is very evocative of the lighting in image 2:
http://www.amazon.com/Spirits-Speak-Celebration-African-Masks/dp/3791332287
While the mask’s origin and use may have meaning for us I think it is more important that it does not originate from Charleston. I think that means the idea of masks comes from the city but not the literal and actual mask. I’ll say more on this later.
What is very important is the map on the mask’s forehead. This, to me, is obviously Charleston, but it may also be a clue to the park. Washington Square Park was previously (and still) called City Hall Park. The park is small, walled and nestled against the back of Charleston’s City Hall (south), Meeting Street (west), Chalmers St. (north) and private homes (east). A building in the NW corner houses the South Carolina Historical Society and the park contains many monuments and memorials.
Smaller Mask
The shape of the smaller mask is the same as Fort Sumter from above.
http://www.ccpl.org/content.asp?action=detail&catID=5764&id=14764&parentID=5748
Fort Sumter lies in Charleston harbor and is where the Civil War began. I feel the stripes and star of the mask reinforce the military or national theme of the object.
The clock hands are a representation of 4:00 = 4th month = April . But 4:00 also connects nicely to the date and time of the firing on the fort by rebel troops (4:30am, April 12, 1861).
http://www.ccpl.org/content.asp?id=14761&action=detail&catID=5764&parentID=5748
African Americans celebrated this event after the war: “On March 29 (1865), one of the largest parades ever held in Charleston began at noon. Four thousand blacks participated…They were followed, most dramatically, by two carts, one carrying an auction block with an ‘auctioneer’ auctioning two black women and their children. The other carried a coffin with the signs ‘Slavery is dead’ and ‘Sumter dug his grave on 13th of April, 1861.’” pg. 122, “A short history of Charleston” by Robert N. Rosen.
In Washington Square Park there is a Fort Sumter Centennial time capsule and a monument to General Beauregard. Beauregard was the Confederate general in charge of the assault on Fort Sumter.
I’m beginning to wonder if all images with clocks don’t have a date or event that relates to the casque location. That would make the use of a clock not only convenient but also purposeful.
Moth
The moth woman repeats the overall theme of fairies, Africa and perhaps slavery and freedom.
The wings resemble an emperor moth but the inner, brown scales of the wings look very much like cobblestones. Chalmers Street is the longest remaining cobblestone street and runs along Washington Square Park. The street was originally called Mulatto Alley and was a street of ill repute, housing several bordellos as well as the sailors’ tavern (The Pink House) which is also the oldest surviving building in Charleston.
Chalmers Street is also the location of the first home to be owned by a freed black in Charleston. 38 Chalmers, built c. 1844 for Jane Wightman. The house faces the north gate to Washington Square Park and the wrought iron of it’s gate has spiky Chevaux-de-Frise iron at it’s top and a looping butterfly like decoration at the bottom. (See: Charleston Chew,
http://minnastravels.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html
)
I think someone previously mentioned Chevaux-de-Frise ironwork as resembling the fairy’s hair, and I agree.
Around the time Preiss buried the casques, 38 Chalmers was owned by Laura Bragg an important figure in the Charleston Renaissance of the 1920’s. She was director of the Charleston Museum where she attempted to extend education and access to African Americans. She was also the founder of the Free Library and the Poetry Society of South Carolina.
Bragg’s efforts to stop the destruction of historic buildings by the Standard Oil company led directly to the formation of the BAR (Board of Architectural Review).
Laura Bragg was the center of an artistic and social group on Chalmers street. One of her close associates was Ned Jennings. He was known for the creation of fantastical masks and a large butterfly and moth collection that he kept at his studio at 23 Chalmers.
Sites on Chalmers Street:
6 Chalmers — Old Slave Mart Museum
17 Chalmers — The Pink House (Sailors’ Tavern)
23 Chalmers — Confederate Home & College, Jennings studio
38 Chalmers — (faces park) the first home to be owned by a Freed Black in Charleston and home of Laura Bragg
Pear
The pear. I hate this pear. We have had several theories about this pear over the years but none feel completely satisfactory. Bradford pear trees are common flowering trees in Charleston. Or it could be a reference to two women on Chalmers Street, but I don’t feel sufficiently confident to go too far on this yet.
Daisy and Diamond
Reference the month of April
Other
There are a few other marks, shadows, etc that may be important but I want to leave them until I have been able to do another recon of the city and park. I haven’t been in Washington Square Park in a very, very long time and need to see the site again before I add any more.
The rest I will post under the Verse 6.
http://www.quest4treasure.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2437.0
Again, if anyone has any ideas we are both anxious to hear what you think. Anyone interested in hunting with me, just let me know.

On the Edmund Wilmont Blyden idea – the flag for Lybia has one 5 sided star, just like the one on the Ft. Sumter mask.

FWIW, Libya’s flag was solid green (no stars, no stripes, no nothing) from 1972-2011.  Preiss hid these treasures in 1980-1.

Or this 1982 video compelled BP to walk the dog of Oz….
https://youtu.be/FTQbiNvZqaY
J/k even though Mt. Kilmanjaro rises like Olympus over the Syren Jetty…right there, these Toto guys must’ve been heavy into Greek Mythology.

erexere

It’s probably a simple civil war related riddle in the end.

Are you working on the same hunt I am?
What riddle are you talking about?
Image – gets you to the treasure ground.
verse takes you to the casque, based on things you see in the local area…
What riddle are you trying to solve?
Chicago – There was no riddle.
Cleveland there was no riddle.
What about Image 2 makes you think it will be different?

Sorry, i was referring to things of a similar nature.  For instance, understanding that ‘beneath two countries’ isnt litteraly two actual countries, but gardens NAMED for countries.  Im just generalizing.  There isnt some superdeep riddle per se, just a minute adjustment from seeing things too literally.  Same goes for “Bar that binds”, the question of which bar becomes a riddle.  Others, not I, made the claim that image 2 has the same shape as Fort Sumpter.  Surely you know Fort Sumpter was very involved in the Civil War.  I am proposing that something of that nature is part of the solution to this hunt since this others here have outlined the reference.  Do you have an arguement for how nothing civil war related is to do with this hunt?

wk, that is a fantastic looking map sketch and the Bing link is unlike anything I’ve seen as far as clarity and ease of use.  It really is astounding.  Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
I’m having a tough time seeing what you’re describing, there certainly are similar symmetries.  I’m currently all over the place with this image…been focused on lighthouses too much I think.  It’s probably a simple civil war related riddle in the end.
Oh that reminds me, when I was visiting Maryland last summer I visited Fort McHenry.  It gave me some perspective, not much, but at least I have a little first hand fort experience.  …and that reminds me of the time I dressed up as a Bluecoat to ride a horse in the Rose Parade…it was strange being so involved with Civil War history so far from where most of the action took place.

erexere

I’m having a tough time seeing what you’re describing, there certainly are similar symmetries.

The outline which you say is a lighthouse on this image , if mirrored is the same as the outline of Castle Pinckney. It is described on the map as a Wharf.

erexere

Do you have an arguement for how nothing civil war related is to do with this hunt?

Oh no – however I dont believe it is deeper than, Greek cultural garden = a country name. or Brush = nearby an art institute. so Civil war item would be right there but we wont need to examine which battles it was involved in etc..

wk

The outline which you say is a lighthouse on this image , if mirrored is the same as the outline of Castle Pinckney. It is described on the map as a Wharf.

Hey, I didn’t see Pinckney even existed before.  It looks omitted from the charleston outline.  Intentional?  The patch on the lions head does look kind of like you say.  Time for a closer look.  I didn’t catch anyone ever mentioning this before.
Pinckney the man is buried at St. Michaels across from Washington Park.  I can see why folks have brought up the obelisk, probably a better candidate than a lighthouse.

The chain holding the Sumter-clock looks like the path the ferry takes from either charleston or mt. Pleasant to Sumter.

A couple of thoughts —
I believe the ‘pine’ limbs are actually cypress (do a google image search on ‘cypress leaf’).  The cone of the cypress tree is pear-shaped (though not as nicely as the pear in the picture).  There is also a bush called a cypress-daisy (I don’t know what it looks like).
Where is this leading?  Cypress Gardens is just outside Charleston.  It also has a butterfly house (though it was added in the 90’s).

Intersting finds.  The fairy’s hair has been bugging me, and I recently found this:
It’s the gate outside the Miles Brewton House at 27 King St (about 2 blocks north of WPG).  google the house to read about the history, and it could definitely tie in.
– Jambone

you can Gman walk in some of the pks in charleston, on the paths and trails
you can walk through the citadel too
hampton
http://goo.gl/maps/TTHiQ
white point
http://goo.gl/maps/v9xkH
Search by name, area, amenity, keyword, etc.
http://www.charlestonparksconservancy.org/our_parks/
http://www.charlestonparksconservancy.org/

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Couple things, the actual fact that I landed on mask and animal as a raccoon idea before learning Cape Romain’s Lighthouse Island is called Raccoon Key is really exciting.  Secondly, I screwed up major on my Sunset at 7:13 in May statement.  I’m working on reevaluating why I came up with that wrong info.
Okay, here is the way the problem should be presented, the sumter clock is under rotation, lay the image flat and rotate so Sumter is correctly aligned, look for the Gem in the illustration, its now at the top of the page in the North direction.  (this is my attempt to use cw0909 and maltedfalcons treatment of the image).  The clock hands are a clue to think of 1913 as military time for 7:13 pm.  What next?  If North is viewed as 12 o’clock, the clock hands now look like 11:40 (est.).  We can figure the exact time doing clock angle math if we are expected to apply the  1913 clue to do so.  Eventually I expect to apply a time to find a set of Sun angles.
I feel that the use of a triangle in image 4 was a simple one.  I think combined with the sphere and Greek theme, Euclid and the “Triangle” apartments fit snuggly as path helpers.  Several triangles appear in thos image and it seems to me an indication of a geometric solid that has been dismantled.  Tetrahedron has 4, Octahedron has 8, Icosahedron has 20 sides made of equillateral triangles.  Where does this lead?

in those pictures of the
flag
:
http://flickr.com/photos/16451098@N04/2 … 783351779/
http://flickr.com/photos/hdescopeland/2 … 7/sizes/o/
they are right by a path that crosses………..the lady arms crossed, legs crossed
and between two “arms”
and close to the bandstand………white house close at hand
is that two flagpoles in the path?  that could be our “pair”, lol
blyden mentioned a
flag
here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=DuXbWX … t#PPA64,M1
he pushed “liberia (meaning liberty)
liberty, what we think of when we see the
flag
…………freedom from………
from the “boogie man”…..”some soul from the soulful”…….blyden wrote:
„Every race has a soul, and the soul of that race finds expression in its institutions, and to kill those institutions is to kill the soul.  . . .  No people can profit or be helped under institutions which are not the outcome of their own character.”
i keep coming across w.e.b. dubois  and keep seeing that WEB at the end of the verse…makes me think of the SELOY clue….and he wrote
The Souls of Black Folk
the confederate
flag
was called “the stars and bars”  ……..”bar that binds”
we’ve got the judicial mask, the hanging rope……….the hangings, and one of the symbols for justice is the
flag
and gavel
in the “gardengoyle  it mentions the gypsy moth…….the lady in the image
“seeking shelter”……….white house close at hand…….the bandstand
boogie man………..music, bandstand
“still getting down, when you’re just getting up”…………..
flag?
stars?

forest_blight,
do you know who named their twins edwin and edwina after blyden?

Forgive me if I am mistatken but I believe Blyden named his twins Edwin & Edwina…

The book is not specific about precisely who named their children after Blyden, but it was definitely not Blyden himself. A pair of twins born in Charleston during one of his visits were named in his honor. Perhaps the only important detail from this whole Blyden issue is that it occurred in Charleston, thus further nailing the city. If so, it doesn’t help us much (except to link the V and P) because we already knew about Charleston.

Er….
….this is the image I have found that pairs with verse 10, and I have a completely different location for the casque.
ck

Do tell!

shecrab

Er….
….this is the image I have found that pairs with verse 10, and I have a completely different location for the casque.
ck

different location than Charleston?…  You are going to have to do some serious convincing and basically have the exact location to dig to sway us on this P.

I thought I’d keep this one to myself until I can get to the location. That way I don’t embarrass myself.
Once I go to the location in the Spring, so I can see the place for myself, then I’ll tell more.
Actually, I have the image and the verse 100% decoded. It’s a matter now of waiting for ground to thaw, because this one isn’t diggable yet. But everything–and I do mean everything–fits like a glove. I’ll tell you this: it’s nowhere near the Carolinas. This one is in Canada.
One of the keys is the word “rhapsodic”. It has nothing to do with music. The rest also matches beautifully–but because of a certain ambiguity with the verse when giving the precise location, it is difficult to tell whether you go east from the right or left branch of the V. One way will take you to one location, and the other will take you somewhere else. It’s not a big deal, but I can’t be more precise until I go and look. And hey—if I’m wrong, then I’ll have an amusing post for y’all.
c

I am dying to know just where you believe this P to be leading us…especially since the map of Charleston SC is obviously and exactly depicted on the forehead of the strange mask.

After realising that the Pirate House with the Stevenson plaque is in Georgia rather than Charleston, I’m a bit dubious about this verse/image combo. I prefer V5.