WhiteRabbit

Is that it? Genius! How did you find it?

Yes, that is it. The WWI/WWII Memorial. I cannot date it, however. Searching is fun
. Let me know if you need more pics.
Interestingly, the memorial is surrounded by utility boxes (all sides). You know how the green boxes usually say, “Call so and so before digging,” just to check to see where lines are underneath so you don’t cut them with a shovel? Get permission to dig?

Glossiphoniidae

Let me know if you need more pics.

(Thanks – after learning what it was I found
these
…now trying to contact someone on the island. I’m starting to suspect the difficulty of locating casques is nothing compared to the difficulty of trying to persuade someone to dig a hole…)

A predator behind a mask behind a spot-winged moth.
Insects use a variety of defense mechanisms against predators.  Spots supposedly look like big eyes to help fend off predators.  This basically represents a disguise.  A mask is a disguise.  What kind of animals have disguises?
Raccoons?  If this is simple enough logic, does it follow that BP is referring to the Cape Romain Lighthouses being built on the island named Raccoon Key (now known as Lighthouse Island)?

erexere

Maltedfalcon, you were suppose to recover a casque before I buy the book…
Why, are you saying Egbert couldn’t have found a casque with just image and verse alone?
Your Brontasaurus comment was especially weak.  Either you have no appreciation for the Classical Greek world or you are a Paleontologist and you’re implying that I should read the book to see the dinasaur connection…

No problem -have arranged to dig again next month.
No – BP said you just need  to use one image and one verse to find a casque.
I was just saying the triangle was a simple landmark – nothing more. you did not need anything except the information in the image and verse.
– remember he also said a child can solve these – and a child is not going to be versed in Trigonometry or projecting paths from shadows.
the key to the solution is being familiar with the area the casque is hidden in.
of course I will consider anything you come up with – you have put forth several really really good ideas.  at this point I am pretty sure you were the first person to suggest exactly where  I think the SF casque is.  So if two people independently come up with the same spot, its got a good chance.

you got me all riled up ..
Username legionnaire posted first about that particular location in san francisco .

no I mean the exact spot -people including me have been trying out lincoln park/lands end for years…
but without multiple site confirmers in the image, its just guessing.
but you said “over by the tree” which is one of the dig spots I was considering, once I was on the site, I could see how much sense it made.

sorry guys about not getting back sooner about my ideas but things got crazy around here.
i only had a quick trip to charleston awhile back, and then most of my pictures are of my b/f’s ancestors’ houses, tho the trip was supposed to be for me!
i still haven’t reread my notes, but these ideas are still in my head.
if this goes with verse 5 and fort moultrie:
osceola –“the only standing member” at the fort——–osceola avenue
poe–“a wingless bird ascended born of ancient dreams of flight” poe avenue
both of these roads are right at the fort
i don’t like the word “paces” because it is so ambiguous, but there is a station “twelve” right beside the fort.
here are some pictures:
http://www.postyourimage.com/view_image … 1201703480
oops “a” picture,  i’m having problems uploading, but will try again later, the road signs are all on upright white stone posts. i have a picture of osceola avenue, poe avenue, station 22, station 12, the grave surrounded by wroght iron, the arch of the doors and a hall way,
i have other ideas if it goes with verse 6, which i like because of the “edwin and edwina” quote being about charleston

osceola avenue
osceola grave
station 12
poe avenue
wind swept halls
arch
station 22

Could the large eye sockets of the mask in P2 be a refernce to the Poe story of Gold Bug, especially since the mask is gold and V5 talks about pacing out from the tree as it does in Poes Gold Bug??
Regards,
Mac

I agree with White Rabbit’s solution here. The solution proposed to Fort Moultrie is spot on. The only part I would amend would be the ending. The reference to “Osceola” I believe is the white stone in front of Fort Moultrie, ten paces from the west side, you have your precise spot. Put this one in the “solved but not recoverable” category.

Also let me add this to my previous post.
The girl is the capstan. Notice how in her bikini top the folds look like palm leaves and the tie in the middle like coconuts.
So what I’m saying is the capstan IS the palm…Symbolically as a palm tree casting a long shadow and metaphorically as a human hand palm. When a capstan like this one is used posts stick out of the holes to be pushed by the sailors to turn the winch and bind the ropes. The top of the capstan is the palm with the posts being the fingers.

MrBackstop

Notice how in her bikini top the folds look like palm leaves and the tie in the middle like coconuts.

This is great work, definitely merits a longer observation. I’ll take it from here.

It vaguely resembles a palm tree, however the only problem with that thought is that our Palm trees don’t have coconuts here in SC.
Regards,
Mac

Macfos

It vaguely resembles a palm tree, however the only problem with that thought is that our Palm trees don’t have coconuts here in SC.
Regards,
Mac

Nice

Macfos

Could the large eye sockets of the mask in P2 be a refernce to the Poe story of Gold Bug

Yep, you’ll find various discussions of Gold Bug if you use the forum search.
Possible Poe references in V5:
The Balloon Hoax
– concerning a balloon that lands on Sullivan’s Island – “a wingless bird ascended”
The Cask of Amontillado
– “walls of solid granite”.
Ligeia
– “The phantasmagoric effect was vastly heightened by the artificial introduction of a strong continual current of
wind behind the draperies
giving a hideous and uneasy animation to the whole.
In halls such as these
– in a bridal chamber such as this – I passed, with the Lady of Tremaine, the unhallowed hours of the first month of our marriage.”

So perhaps the artist took some liberties with the palm tree or I just took some liberties with my vision. More importantly I see the capstan as the palm.

here is an image of a unique tree on the stella marris church grounds – it may be the only standing member – it was imported from Africa & that fits the pictures theme plus it look a little like the branches in the puzzel – I hope this dose not double post as this is the guest of White Rabbit and the 1st time it said my file size was too big . I explored the theory that this may be the standing member but only explored it a little. Maybe someone here can see more.

here is a close up of the salt cedars branch. My original thought was Osceolas grave was the member and that the white marker of those who died in a ship is to its south side and 12 paces to the west is still on the grounds of Ft Moultrie – but try as I did I could not get permission to even probe with a rod just to check my therory.

Tel

When you look at the image if you think that the artist 1st painted a beach scene then continued into the final image – look to the right and left of the lions face – I can sort of see a image of a place but cant make it out completely. Can you see it?? think clouds in sky in the back then waves on a beach then a place and see on the right side of the mane what looks like a pier as it is a short section then angles up then continues – sort of like the beach access ramps at Sullivan’s island can you see it?

Some pics from Tel’s recent visit –

I am now even more sure that the tree in Image 2 is a bald cypress. I made a trip to Borders Books today and looked up southeastern conifers. Realistic contenders were some species of yew, fir, spruce, cypress, and hemlock, but only bald cypress had main stems with no needles. All the others had needles even on the thick stems. Given the location (SC), I would say it’s definitely bald cypress.

forest_blight

Nice find, lobster411. If you’re right, we walked right by the dang thing! Here is my picture:

I noticed something in Forest Blight’s picture – the red, white, & blue stripes.

Why do I always miss these things? And in my own pictures!

lobster411

Egbert:  Could you give me dimensions on the plexiglass box?  I know it was rather destroyed, but was there enough left to tell how big it was?

It is a cube, about 8 or 9 inches per side.  The plexiglass is probably about 1/2 inch thick.  Good luck!

How to find a tree, a white rock at twelve paces, but not a casque:
We began the day at 6:00.  Rolling out of bed, we choked down some breakfast and jumped in the car.  Myself and two friends arrived at Fort Moultrie at 10 or 11, and we set out to look at two trees that were possible “only standing members…”  As it turns out, neither had a white stone of any kind near it.  On had a large dune to the west, but it could not really be described as white due to the plant growth.  We go to the car to get drinks feeling dejected.
We decide to look around the fort and parade field.  We get horribly lost in the woods near the shore, and discover that small cactus plants hurt beyond all imagination.  I hold the record of getting stuck 18 times.  Owe.
We then go to the beach to dip extra tee shirts in the water to wrap around our heads.  We look like fools and decide that it may not be too far from the truth.
Back to the parade field.  Coming up from the west most part of the beach, we climb some white rocks to get back up to fort grounds.  We figure that with the large granite slabs around, it may be worth looking in this area.  It is.
After only a few minutes of perusing this course.  We come upon this beauty:
A feeling of solitude surrounds the tree.  It is definitely apart from the rest, but there are no granite slabs nearby.  Then, we see it:  the small glimmer of hope that we drove all this way for.
We thought it was a benchmark, but there is no latitude or longitude present on it.  My since of distance says that this is too far away from the tree, but I decide to pace it off anyway.
It was 25 steps.  That’s 12 1/2 of my paces.
Euphoria.
I tried to circle the stone on the left side of the picture, but it didn’t turn out too well with paint.
We thought this was a benchmark at first, and a sense of desperation filled us.  There would be no way to dig here because it is on NPS property.  I seek the person with the most authority at Fort Moultrie, and after several hours of missed phone calls, I get a hold of him.  He says he’d be glad to meet me in his office.
After talking to him, I find out that there is absolutely NO way to dig on NPS property.  Period.  If he wanted to, he couldn’t.
Seeking one final saving throw, I ask where the property line is.  Perhaps the tree and rock are inside the property line.
After half an hour of talking to different people, I come to find out the beautiful truth.  The rock is not a benchmark, but a property marker.  The west side of it is not NPS property, but rather belongs to the state of SC, and it is under the jurisdiction of the Department of Ocean and Coastal Resources.
More buerocracy.
I call my dad, and he looks up the number.  I call them, and they tell me it’s ok to dig there.  All he asked was, “I have to know… What is it you’re digging up?”  I explain the story, and he says, “That is awesome.  Best of luck to you.”
We have permission to dig.
The head honcho of the park insists of overseeing our digging.  Possibly this is because he is concerned about the possibility of crossing onto park property.  Possibly it is because he wants to watch our backs in case we get stopped by police, but I really think he just wanted to see if we would find anything.
We didn’t.
The fort closes at 5:00.  The gentleman overseeing our digging gets off work at this time, so we are keeping him from going home (to the Mount Pleasant farmer’s market no less).  We feel bad at 5:30 and decide to call it quits.  We dug three feet deep, but our hole was not very large in diameter.  Perhaps we missed it.
I believe that this explains the significance of the last two lines of the verse.  If one “gets permission to dig out,” as it says, he will find out that he cannot dig near the tree.  He can however dig on the west side of the rock.  This is the way I think the verse should read:
Beneath the only standing member of a forest to the south of the fort, there is a white stone at twelve paces.  On the west side, get permission to dig out.
The west side is the side not owned by Fort Moultrie BTW.
I genuinely believe that this is the correct tree and stone.  I believe this because the white stone is of great significance.  It is not some random chunk of rock; it is an official marker that cannot be moved on penalty of law.  This would insure that the rock could not be moved.
We are returning to try to dig later.  Possibly Saturday, possibly some time next week.  I would appreciate any thoughts or ideas.
ANY.
Until then, wish us luck.
To view all the pictures, including a better picture of the property marker, go to:
http://img140.imageshack.us/slideshow/p … 24uxb.smil
That you all for your hard work on this.

Unknown

Unknown:
An important confirmer: That rock looks like the diamond
from the image!

Unknown

Unknown:
As in Cleveland, that was bounded by a concrete “planter”
this site is bounded by the water and the  property line.

Unknown

Unknown:
How was the view of Sumter?

I didn’t even notice, but you’re right!
Unfortunately, there are about twenty feet between the property line and the rocks on the shore line.  I would expect that it would be right beside the rock, so that’s where we dug.  If we go again, that is probably where we will start.
I completely forgot to look!  However, we did see the Ravenel bridge, which is much farther away.  Fort Sumter would definitely be visable.  This is also very cool because it means you would have been able to see the Silas Pearman bridge when it was there.  If you look hard enough, you might even find patriot’s point.
Another nice thing to note: the triangle on the property marker points due west.  It might point to the treasure.
Also, I forgot to post this picture last time:
Our lion?

Awesome!  Best of luck!  Make it find #3!

Nice find, lobster411. If you’re right, we walked right by the dang thing! Here is my picture:
And here is a satellite view. I can see why this palmetto might be called the last standing member of a forest, since it looks isolated:
There is a different way to interpret the verse.
White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side
…to me means at 12 paces from the west side of the only standing member. So at 12 paces from the tree, you’ll find a white stone (which you did).
Get permission to dig out
might mean “dig on the side for which you need to seek permission,” i.e., the east side.
I really think you need a probe. The sandy soil would be ideal, and you wouldn’t have to dig to find out if there was anything there.
My other advice is to arrive after 5:00 on a weekday and wait until no one is around. The place was pretty deserted when we went, and that was after 5:00pm on a Sunday (I think).

I will not be digging on the east side.
The penalty for digging on NPS property is as follows:  They take your equipment (metal detectors, shovels, etc), anything you find, your vehicle, and everything in it.  This information was acquired from the staff at Fort Moultrie.
What do you suggest using as a probe?  We used 1/8 inch poles.  We could get them into the ground a ways, but despite the sandy ground, there are still rocks.
I know it is possible to rent metal detectors, but does anyone know anything about sonar probing stuff?  Also, if I can rent a metal detector, do you think that method is viable?
Egbert:  Could you give me dimensions on the plexiglass box?  I know it was rather destroyed, but was there enough left to tell how big it was?

very nice. you are definately close.
I used a probe bought at home depot. It’s in the area around the sprinkler fittings. It’s for looking for underground pipes and such. it’s basically a 3 foot long steel rod with a point on the bottom.
if you are really interested in renting a GPS, (ground penetrating radar), I have some contact information. It’s not cheap. and it’s hard to decipher what you are looking at (yes, I used one for a whole day!!)  let me know.
what if the rules changed and it really is on the other side of the rock?? a metal detector, and a really good one, MIGHT detect the metal piece in the key. if it’s not buried too deep. but it might not too.
good luck
wilhouse

WHOOO YAA!
Nice find, I guess the old fashion way of walking around still
is better than Google earth.
An important confirmer: That rock looks like the diamond
from the image!
GREAT WORK!
The term “dig out” must mean to dig outside the NPS
boundaries.
As in Cleveland, that was bounded by a concrete “planter”
this site is bounded by the water and the  property line.
How was the view of Sumter?

Too bad I am so far away.  I have one of the best detectors available (Minelab Explorer) that uses 21 different frequencies for it’s detection (vs. the 1 or 2 frequencies of most other detectors).  So, it can go deep, and with a newer Excelsior coil (the larger the coil, the deeper penetration) I bet it would find a casque based on the metal rod in the key.  Detectors like this were not available in the 1980’s (or for that matter most of the 1990’s even!).  I use it for spanish doubloons near Sebastian Inlet from the 1715 Plate Fleet that wash up on the beach after large storms/hurricanes.
As far as probes go, have you tried a shephards hook?  If the casque is at 3 feet in 1982, it could be from 2-4 feet in 2006 – the 3 foot probe for pipes may not reach it.  You can get a shephards hook at Home Depot or Lowe’s in the gardening section.  Some are 5-6 ft in length.  They are a thin metal pole, have a point on the end, and curve over into a hook at the top (for hanging plants and such).  You can use the curve as a handle to get better leverage to plunge into the ground vs. a straight rod.
Looking forward to hearing more about this location – it does seem to fit the verse and visual clues.  I am putting off further research on verse 5 tied to Florida in a location I have scouted by foot for now, and if it turns out to be SC I can move on obviously…

wilhouse

very nice. you are definately close.
I used a probe bought at home depot. It’s in the area around the sprinkler fittings. It’s for looking for underground pipes and such. it’s basically a 3 foot long steel rod with a point on the bottom.
if you are really interested in renting a GPS, (ground penetrating radar), I have some contact information. It’s not cheap. and it’s hard to decipher what you are looking at (yes, I used one for a whole day!!)  let me know.
what if the rules changed and it really is on the other side of the rock?? a metal detector, and a really good one, MIGHT detect the metal piece in the key. if it’s not buried too deep. but it might not too.
good luck
wilhouse

Using a metal detector on NPS property carries the same penalties for digging.  Don’t do it.
How much was the GPR rental for the other side of the rock?  How well did it work?  If I was willing to spring for it, would you recommend it?

lobster…… one word  …..  WOW.  It all seems to fit nicely.  It has to be in the vicinity.  I will disect my notes, V & P in hopes of finding something that may pinpoint our casque.  Keep searching……
Looks like #3 is about to see the light of day at last……

Under Internet Resources, I posted a good website for decoding anagrams:
http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/anagram.html
have a good time with it cthree.
wilhouse

I like the idea of the arms of the statues…I am more apt to side with the literal sense of the “…arms extended”.
Do you know who or what department bonestructure asked for permission?

tjgrey

Do you know who or what department bonestructure asked for permission?

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Cask 2 – Charleston SC
No one at the City of Charleston Parks and Recreation really wanted to look at my application before the holiday, so only now am I finally getting a response, and it’s not an encouraging one.
At first I was told that a permit to dig in the planting bed along High Battery might be issued if I was willing to put up a large damage bond.  The latest word, though, is that no permit will be issued to me or to anyone else who wants to dig for a cask in or around White Point Gardens. There is a blanket prohibition against metal detecting or digging in any public park in the city of Charleston, and for White Point Gardens in particular digging is a violation of SC’s antiquities preservation act and can result in a large fine and\or jail time.  I was told that the only way digging for the cask could be authorized at WPG is if the request is coming as part of a formal archaeological survey sponsored by an accredited college or university, complete with a detailed dig plan that has been signed off on by the Preservation Society.  There have been digs like that before in peninsular Charleston, but the permitting and approval process takes literally
years
before anyone has been allowed to break ground.
So, that’s that.
I had a brief, wild moment of wanting to sneak down there one night and just wildcat it, but I have to hold a security clearance for my job and getting arrested would definitely jeopardize that.  I’m not going to risk it.  If anyone else wants to take up that cudgel, feel free.

This was the report…

Wow. Stonewalled. (Pun intended).
Well, my angle was more toward a survey (of several specific locations to deduce) and (with hope) just seeing where it went with them from there. Do you know if any kind of ground radar or anything would 1. locate the casque 2. be available ?

Thanks Tater!
Regards,
Mac

i agree…if you feel that you might be able to stimulate peoples treasure hunting skills (lol) in any fashion please do! I have seen some pretty ridiculous suggestions but of course they are welsome here! Thats what this board is for-and specific info has been brought up more than once with great results! Keep it up!  8)

I must agree with Falcon.  I have been here since DAY 1 of these boards (actually regenerated interest in the hunt) and had forgotten about the Charleston find.  Had it not been for C3, I would have been off in another new direction (no longer 4Corners Cat  😉 ) with this P.
Before anyone steals my glory  😀
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fox
Morse
Posts: 254
The Secret
« on: August 8th, 2001, 1:07am »
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OK folks, time for you guys to dig up & dust off your copies of “The Secret”.  I realize the actual prizes are no longer available but the casques are still hidden and wouldn’t you like to be the one to finally crack this hunt which has been around since 1982?  If anyone out there would like to colaborate, please email me:
[email protected]
I have some solid ideas for a lot of the riddles and am really trying to crack one in particular since I believe it is located not far from me.
Hope to hear from you soon………
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now, lets find the Charleston Casque!!!!

Wow, I must not be getting something.  This info isn’t new.  I already identified Charleston with this picture, using the coastline on the mask and the latitude/longitude.  You guys should read an entire thread before posting.

Unknown

Unknown:
ok…2 things..
-in the left portion of the lions hair, there is an 80-rather obvious once you find it  33/80 is lat/long for charleston, SC
-also check this link out and tell me its not the creepy EXACT physical shape reference weve been looking for. The river system is depicted in the mask forehead. Directly above Charleston ;]
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image. … d%20States

Sorry if I misread your post.  It certainly appeared to me that the above post was you “finding” the “80” in the lion’s hair and coming up with the lat/lon of Charleston (which was already done — not sure why you’re saying it again).  It also appeared that you are claiming that Charleston is the same “physical shape reference” of the mask — the one “we’ve been looking for” (again, already done).  It doesn’t matter to me who found it first, it would just be nice to read posts with new info instead of duplicate information.

assuming there is new info to post thats great!
but if not sometimes a rephrasing or rehash of old info, or a comment about or a confirmation of someone elses opinion can spark a new thought or get someones ideas flowing or jumping along a new path.

Unknown

Unknown:
This info isn’t new.  I already identified Charleston with this picture, using the coastline on the mask and the latitude/longitude.

Unknown

Unknown:
very nice find cthree…its obvious that the river system depicted on the mask is definitely charleston SC.

Ummm well, sorry you felt the need to issue a negative coment about my post i didnt intend to ‘steal’ your credit man…i just was posting an actual PICTURE of the coast not just a map. If you ask me the detail in the map i posted is much better than yours. This is a forum for people to discuss and share information-not for people to make discoveries and claim credit. So…how’s this-HEY EVERYBODY! DONT THINK IM BETTER THAN EGG OR ANYTHING! HE FOUND THE RIVER IN THE MASK BEFORE ANY OF US!!!!!!  ::)
Let’s please not let this be about glory. I did in fact read and fully understand the ENTIRE thread and thought i’d contribute an interesting picture i found. Sorry if that offended you!  😉

New pics from Moultrie…

Just putting this out there , but has anyone ever put something like a tiny coring device at the end of there probe just to see if you can cut into what ever you hit. That way you can see if any plexiglass gets inside the core after you pull your probe out to check. I’m sure plexiglass would be easy to cut through just put a T handle on the probe so you can turn it

I have. No, plexi doesn’t respond that well. Ideal conditions might give that result you’re talking about. The trial and error process of not knowing if you’ve hit a rock or root or some other subsurface garbage puts a lot of wear and tear on the drill tool. My 20v Dewalt hammer drill was crying after punishing it in a clay rich area. Working it on my test box replica in my back yard, I was unable to penetrate the box when I used extra force. The ground temp beer cans hiding inside were safe and sound after rigorous testings.

When I first looked at this picture I was thinking Seattle. But after reading the posts I can see Charleston. So I started to look into it more about the daisy and the pear. With the bent petal, I wonder if that is pertaining to White Point Gardens. Col. Issac Hayne whom was executed there for treason by the British, owned property one of them was called Pear Hill.
Is there something pertaining to the state? It seems the pattern is one symbolizes the state the treasure is, then one pinpoints the city, etc…..

Has there been any discussion of the woman’s feet in the image? They look alittle weird and are silhouetted…maybe their silhouette matches a landmark or part of a statue?

hardatlurk

Has there been any discussion of the woman’s feet in the image? They look alittle weird and are silhouetted…maybe their silhouette matches a landmark or part of a statue?

I looked back I didn’t see any discussion of them other than the thought they were submerged in water….
Good catch!

I remember reading that the feet were thought to look like the peninsula or possibly local rivers.
Another interesting thing is that the girl in general besides the hair resembles the “logo” of the Stella Maris church on Sullivans Island across the street from the Fort. I threw that out a while back but did not get any feedback except for drunknerds… which was a hoot. He is a funny dude.
Regards,
Mac

Aaaaahh.  You must be online because you beat me to the answer.  But, thank you.  I realized, just after asking the question, that I could look for the answer myself instead of being lazy.  Here is one example: “As the town boomed, Charleston also became America’s major port in the slave trade . . .” (saznj.tripod.com/historyofcsc,html).
–Johann

Do the Charleston! Interesting find Fox.

speaking of baseball and fort sumter-
abner Doubleday (inventor of baseball) was stationed at the fort and fired the first shot in defense of the fort.

look below the ladies feet, those look like islands along a river. does that match any charleston topography?

Regarding the African connection, my nephew and I were wondering if Charleston was a prominent location for the slave trade.  It has been said that each pic is connected to a group of immigrants, and the Africans were the involuntary immigrants.
–Johann

you could pretty much say it was the prominent place. the center of that trade.
very good point.

what are you referring to spirit?

drunknerds

Yes, the lack of visuals is driving me crazy, and I like to think it’s driving the other severely-literal puzzle solvers daffy, too.
Gman, the wings matchup is intriguing. I forget, did you research that the paths were like that in 1980?

I tried. They seem to be laid out that way, but I’m hoping someone can find photos.

gManTexas

Within the two aviaries, peacocks may have lived there. The zoo was kinda organic, people just dropped off animals there.

Wow…. like maybe how the slaves were dropped off @ SI ?!!

Zoom in on JamesV picture of the battery. Triangles on both sides. It looks as if it’s distant from Fort Moultaire so perhaps it’s not on federal land and it’s closer to the coast. There are only a handful of palm trees in the area. This would also sort of go along with the sunglasses on the right hand side of the painting, towards a beach.

MaltedFalcon’s comments made me sit down and re-think my work for a while, but I still feel like the I2/V5 clues lead me to Fort Moultrie / 12 “paces” from the USS Patapsco obelisk. It’s a great point though: As NPS also pointed out to me last summer, BP would definitely have been breaking the law if he buried a casque on the grounds here in 1981-2. Any prizes, awards, etc. would then be forfeited to the NPS, etc. etc. etc. Unfortunately, now I’m left with more questions than answers:
-Was the Charleston casque even buried at all?
Could it have been left in the custody of the park Superintendent, or some similar arrangement? V5 was the only Verse which mentions getting permission before digging— even in the rules at the end of the book, there’s not a whole lot of concern shown for property rights. Also, the way that “Get permission / To dig out” is written struck me as more of an order, rather than a suggestion or advice. Follow the rules, and eventually you’d collect the prize. Conduct an illegal dig, and you’d earn a completely different prize. I floated this idea to Erexere via PM last year, but today I got off my butt and started looking into interviewing both park Superintendents from 1981-1982. Both of the Superintendents from this time appear to still be living, and it looks like they may still be local to Charleston, so I’ll keep the group posted if that thought leads anywhere.
-If BP actually did bury the casque illegally, he had to have known that his readers would have difficulty with dig permissions.
Was this the reason for accepting mail-in solutions for inaccessible casques?
Remember in Chicago, he basically told the searchers that their location was correct, then he still sent them back out anyway to conduct a dig…
Last, just wanted an excuse to share this cool aerial shot of Fort Moultrie from August 1979. Other than the changes in trees and shrubs, it looks like this area is basically unchanged. So, if the casque actually was buried outside the sallyport like I suspect, it’s probably still there?
Keep searching!

phinetic

Zoom in on JamesV picture of the battery. Triangles on both sides. It looks as if it’s distant from Fort Moultaire so perhaps it’s not on federal land and it’s closer to the coast. There are only a handful of palm trees in the area. This would also sort of go along with the sunglasses on the right hand side of the painting, towards a beach.

phinetic, there’s no reason to believe that some of these objects could be design elements that were incorporated into Image 2, but you have to be able to walk through the whole image and verse, or at least mostly to determine the casque location. Also, in looking at all of the puzzles and locations (including proposed) none of them fall on Federal lands. They all appear to be public land, which makes a ton of sense since BP expected people to be searching for these casques.
Also, even though after the fact BP had some bravado about burying these things, I highly doubt he would have risked getting arrested, especially on a federal charge.

JamesV

-Was the Charleston casque even buried at all?
Could it have been left in the custody of the park Superintendent, or some similar arrangement? V5 was the only Verse which mentions getting permission before digging— even in the rules at the end of the book, there’s not a whole lot of concern shown for property rights. Also, the way that “Get permission / To dig out” is written struck me as more of an order, rather than a suggestion or advice. Follow the rules, and eventually you’d collect the prize. Conduct an illegal dig, and you’d earn a completely different prize. I floated this idea to Erexere via PM last year, but today I got off my butt and started looking into interviewing both park Superintendents from 1981-1982. Both of the Superintendents from this time appear to still be living, and it looks like they may still be local to Charleston, so I’ll keep the group posted if that thought leads anywhere.
-If BP actually did bury the casque illegally, he had to have known that his readers would have difficulty with dig permissions.
Was this the reason for accepting mail-in solutions for inaccessible casques?

I like to think I’m a big skeptic, but this kinda blew my mind. Even if it isn’t true, thanks for the mental food, JamesV!

Wow so you wonder if maybe charleston fits that interpretation pretty well. You just wonder if “get permission to dig out” would be lost through employees? How would you know you could trust someone for years and years?

Found alternative pictures:
https://imgur.com/a/sbtnX
Apologize that i had to upload on my phone.
If you look from the back it looks like the image of the teeth (white/dark) . I think Moultaire is in similar shape to Fort Sumpter. I think the verse tells us between two arms extended (cannons) below the bar (perhaps a sand bar) under the palm (literal tree) in the sand (on the coastal area) is where it could be located. The cannons in the ferry’s wings could make sense.
This is not at Fort Moultaire, but maybe perhaps on the coast of Moultaire.

phinetic

Wow so you wonder if maybe charleston fits that interpretation pretty well. You just wonder if “get permission to dig out” would be lost through employees? How would you know you could trust someone for years and years?

Good question!
Preiss has said he thought every cask would be dug up in 6 months
Maybe salesmanship. But on face value, it checks out

MrSeabass

‘Hey Mr. minimum-wage park attendant, can you put this box that has a diamond(?) in it that might be undiscovered for many years somewhere in your office? I completely trust you to maintain this and tell others to keep it in case this treasure hunt goes on for decades. Also make sure you never movie it to somewhere else even though I will never be back to check on it. Oh also you aren’t getting paid or anything for holding on to my stuff.”
I really don’t need to explain what the issue is here, right? BP made it very clear that all casques were buried.

I was joking with another member that if you go to the Brooklyn library and talk to the rare collections people and utter the code phrase, “The eagle headed gull flies by the Russian lady of liberty at 11:00.” They will hand you a map and gold plated shovel.

JamesV, I completely agree with your solution on this one. The only edit I would make would be WhiteRabbit’s interpretation of the “wingless bird” as a reference to the Edgar Allen Poe story (doesn’t change the location though). One question I had was regarding the tree that was out front in the 80s. Do we know what type it was? Would have been really amazing if it was a pear tree. Also, consider the ‘white stone’ marker could also be the Osceola tablet.
Great solution. I enjoyed reading it.

Wanted to comment on one thing that caught my eye in the 1979 photo. The triangular sidewalk in front of the parking spaces near the visitors center is the closest match I have seen to the jagged teeth on the Ft Sumter mask. The mask has 6 points and the sidewalk only has four, but closest match I have seen yet. The sidewalk is straight today.

graceandhayes

Wanted to comment on one thing that caught my eye in the 1979 photo. The triangular sidewalk in front of the parking spaces near the visitors center is the closest match I have seen to the jagged teeth on the Ft Sumter mask. The mask has 6 points and the sidewalk only has four, but closest match I have seen yet. The sidewalk is straight today.

Add in the windows at the church across the street and you have the top and the bottom of the jagged teeth.

Also notice a battery that is not there today. At the top center of the photo there is a battery close to the beach with three square openings in the back. This battery has been removed and does not exist today. I wonder what it looks like from the beach side.

Holy @#$% Guys.
No way I can keep this to myself.
First, thanks to JamesV for forcing me to search more of these aerial pictures.
https://imgur.com/a/JBnnX
Closer ….
https://imgur.com/a/1syxI
Look at this. The triangles on the sides of the battery, the STEPS on the sides. This is the fucking triangles with teeth within the “fort” shape!!!! Look above at JamesVs pic for another perspective.
This battery is long gone. But who knows whats still out there.
Anyone got any more pictures?
It has to be there!!! Would have been perfect for him to burry it out there!!! Behind the battery wall, nobody would see him, totally out of view! Near the water. Listening to the birds (or perhaps cannons, or maybe he did infact mean actual birds since its under a tree?!)
Also, someone correct me if I’m wrong, but that path…. if you zoom out….
1. the path that is front of Fort Moultaire, points in a 4 o clock position. (doesn’t it even look like the its in the shape of the skirt?)
2. the girls skirt points to a 4 o clock position
3. the staff or pole in the middle of the fort is in the 4 o clock position
If I could put my money on it its that tree to the left of the battery, looking out towards the 4 o clock position. If you look super close in the bigger picture there is friggin SAND PATH that leads out to the beach. If that palm had a four o clock shadow that covered that sand path…..
#@$@#%%@#%!!!!
Someone please tell me I’m wrong and that I’m crazy now.

Would it be helpful to start a thread called “Brute Force Attack: Image2” and list all of the parks in Charleston and then bust each one as a team, eliminating 1 by 1?
I am on the ground in Charleston and can provide pictures and on ground assessments as we work through locations.
Searching for buried fairy treasure is fun… lol even my wife likes it because she gets to pick the place to eat everytime I drag her on a fairy mission.
Regards,
Mac

So is it a good idea overall? I do want honest opinions. Maybe just do something like that under this thread?
Thoughts?
Regards,
Mac

I see your reservation and you are probably right.
Any thought of picking a single park and trying to confirm visuals? Just trying to think of a team approach where we could layout everything about a specif location and get a bunch of input instead of jumping all over the map with different thoughts and theories.
Thanks for the feedback MrSeabass.
Regards,
Mac

MrSeabass

Ehhhhhh not really. Way too much area to cover, and it will inevitably lead to a massive amount of bad reverse confirmations, i.e. pick a park and then find any vague link back to the image or verse. We’ll end up with 17 different parks that turn into a pissing contest.

Seems that’s where it sits now.

Macfos

I see your reservation and you are probably right.
Any thought of picking a single park and trying to confirm visuals? Just trying to think of a team approach where we could layout everything about a specif location and get a bunch of input instead of jumping all over the map with different thoughts and theories.
Thanks for the feedback MrSeabass.
Regards,
Mac

Sounds productive. Get all the eyes on one location and exhaust the possibilities.

gMan… that is exactly what I was thinking. Process of elimination via brute force attack 1 park at a time.
Regards,
Mac

Macfos

gMan… that is exactly what I was thinking. Process of elimination via brute force attack 1 park at a time.
Regards,
Mac

Pick a park to nominate. “Park of the Month” club. Then we attack.

“Then we attack.”
LOVE IT…
Regards,
Mac

Macfos

“Then we attack.”
LOVE IT…
Regards,
Mac

As long as none of those gun batteries are still operational.
You got any other boots on the ground? I say go in with multiple people and create a diversion while someone probes. Like bring one of these

Yeah, just name a spot and I’ll get at it (from my armchair)

davinci4

One question I had was regarding the tree that was out front in the 80s. Do we know what type it was? Would have been really amazing if it was a pear tree. I enjoyed reading it.

@DaVinci4- to be fully honest, I’d never even considered that it *might* have been a pear tree. I’ve got tons of photos of it, though. Best I can tell, it stood there until the late 80s or so, and it probably came down when Hurricane Hugo hit in 1989. I suspect it may have been some variety of cypress, but it definitely had leaves instead of needles. So, not an exact match with the branch in Image 2.
There was also two taller trees located in the corner of the NW bastion. These were both definitely cypress, but judging by the old photos I looked at they were removed sometime in the mid-1970s. So unless BP visited Fort Moultrie several years before he claimed to, those two trees don’t seem to factor in.

MrSeabass

‘Hey Mr. minimum-wage park attendant, can you put this box that has a diamond(?) in it that might be undiscovered for many years somewhere in your office? I completely trust you to maintain this and tell others to keep it in case this treasure hunt goes on for decades. Also make sure you never movie it to somewhere else even though I will never be back to check on it. Oh also you aren’t getting paid or anything for holding on to my stuff.”

So you’re saying there’s a chance?
Seriously, I appreciate the reality check. I doubt we’ll ever find out the full story, but it’s also possible that BP buried the casque here as in every other city, then had an “Oh Shoot” moment after meeting with his legal team and decided to tack on that line about getting permission. Who knows…
Important to note, though, that Sumter is basically just the old fort itself, while the administrative HQ for Fort Sumter National Monument is actually located out at Fort Moultrie. I did have a chance to take the Sumter tour when I was home last year, and could not find any Image/Verse matches out on the island proper. Also, the retired park Superintendents both have pretty impressive bios– more like history professors, rather than summer interns. It might be possible for them to have played along somehow, although I really doubt they’d have given BP explicit permission to bury a casque here.

I really like this one. I found this prominant fountain in Charleston. I believe it is the solve for the pine branch and the pear (apple family) in the image, thus “pine”-“apple”. You can find many more and probably better pictures than this one online.

Erm….the apple AND the pear are members of the rose family. The pear is not a member of the “apple family.”  And what about the
Pear
man bridge????
Besides…this fountain is in Waterfront park, and that
park wasn’t opened until 1990.
Boy, you know…I’m not the one to ever think that new ideas are bad or wrong on this forum—and I’ll be the first one to champion anyone who comes up with one. But some of the ideas you’ve presented are just–well–arbitrary.  The solves for Charleston and Boston are so solid, why deconstruct them to make the rest fit? I see you both have done a huge amount of work on this, for which I applaud you–yet I find so much of what you’ve shown to be forced or ignored–or both.
I wish I could say I thought you had really solved the book–but I don’t think there is a formula at all. It’s all too pat. But hey—if you are right, even if you’re right about some of it, then good for you!

You’re right that the fruit and branch don’t seem to match.  However, that sure looks like a pear.  It just so happens that the name of the main bridge in Charleston, over which goes Rt. 17, is the Silas PEARman bridge.  King Street goes near it, and there appears to be a Martin Park near both of them.  Still researching………….

The upper part of the mask appears to be a map.  It actually looks like the southern part of Africa, with the Island of Madagascar thrown in.  I can’t seem to fit it with any U.S. location however.
Has anyone taken the time to look at the lion’s hair — I believe something is hidden in it — letters or numbers.

Just an observation.  Look at the strange mask behind the butterfly.  There appears to be what may be the letter h or n over the left eye.  There is a line that goes up from where the nose would be and continues over the left eye.  It looks to me to be a small letter n.  Now, not using the line added, just use the outline over both eyes……m.  Hmmm, looks like I’m back to where I started with this….how interesting.

TreasureBloke

25 minute vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIriklgLBMg
Criticism is welcome. Be kind.

Looks like you’ve put some work into it…
Have you looked into the history of the park and elements? Most parks we’re dealing with have had major changes throughout the last 30+ years. Much caution needs to be made to looking at a park as it is today, but not thinking about how the park(s) were in the early 1980’s. More importantly, muddy patches come and go, and trees grow and are removed. 35 years will allow a fair amount of tree growth, so the landscape will be vastly different than it was a while ago. Even considering a tree’s shadow or a muddy patch is shaky at best.
As for the rest, it’s all very vague, with lots of possibilities (i.e. the eyes of the Fort Sumter could have been lamp posts, man hole covers, etc.), the “shadow” of the flagpole was assumed to be at 6pm (downwards). If we assume that Preiss wanted us to find the treasure, we can assume that there are possibilities, but as we work through the puzzle, some “paths” along the solve will be negated due to that possibility being wrong. If there weren’t red herring possibilities, they’d have been found by now. Essentially, when you’re on the right path, everything else will not make sense or be less likely to be correct, and the vagueness will disappear. I liken it to someone telling you that a treasure is in a large field. Vague. Difficult to dig up. Fine if you don’t want people to dig it up, but not if you do. If you are then told that it’s in a corner, then the bulk of the field is taken out. No matter what else is said, we know we need to be in a corner. Still too vague though… which corner, how far from the corner, etc. And the refinement goes on, and we eventually come to a point that is accurate. Accurate being the key word. The casque is less than 1 foot square, so the end point needs to be pretty small to ensure that we get to 2-4 foot square as an end point. Or else… buy a backhoe and start levelling city parks to 3 foot deep to cover all bases…
It might be a good exercise for you to pick Hampton Park, do some reearch and redo your same theory on that park. If you come up with a point that you think is correct, you’re still too vague because you can’t rule out all other places in Charleston… That’s what I have been doing… It shows how vague and loose your theories are…
Keep hunting!

(…he got bored waiting for the Admins to approve his membership so I just loaned him my logon…hope he doesn’t edit out all my brilliant posts…)

I really do hate that I have not checked this one out more thoroughly… I do live right nearby. I could go there every weekend, no problem, if it weren’t for the fam. Anybody want me to hit this place up soon? I think I am free every weekend this month (besides the one I visit Boston on
) I just need some well-thought out reasoning.

Lets me out.

WhiteRabbit

Hi tjgrey, and welcome (back) to the forum.
My favourite location for this casque is still somewhere in this area, but, I just don’t know where.

Thanks Rabbit! Good to be back!
And, yes, if following the 5th (I believe) verse, yes, I would have to agree…So much seems to point to that island, and the fort specifically. Has anyone actually dug behind the WWII memorial, or has it just been probed? I was doing some distance marking from the web (so take it for what it’s worth until I drive over there), but was trying to pinpoint where 12 paces (roughly 30 feet, if that is in agreement by some/all) was to check. I have been trying to look at the verse(es) more literally rather than looking too much into each line for a change…

Hi tjgrey, and welcome (back) to the forum.
My favourite location for this casque is still somewhere in this area, but, I just don’t know where.

MrSeabass

The pear attached to the branch cannot and will not be anything but a representation of the Pearman bridge connected to the Coleman highway, full stop.

Yeah…but…
Is the bridge about the right size if the lion wanted to eat it….

UnprovenFact

At first, the eyes looked to me like manhole covers.

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Find the Earthquake bolt(s), find The cask. That is the “fence and fixture” of this image. I think.
I will admit you lost me at the end, but I respect your overall analysis and the perspective you are using to pick apart the clues.

Merlot Brougham

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Find the Earthquake bolt(s), find The cask. That is the “fence and fixture” of this image. I think.
I will admit you lost me at the end, but I respect your overall analysis and the perspective you are using to pick apart the clues.

wouldn’t that be the triangle shaped sand garden marked by the palm under the faery’s arms?

I appreciate all of the input, and I will try to keep this and future posts shorter:
My first post was a mash up of every thought and every detail that came to mind while looking at this image (and others) over the past few months. It was all of my mental notes that I was having difficulty keeping straight. I initially typed it all out just to keep a record of my thoughts and ideas and to maybe someday post it piece-by-piece, but I got excited, and we all saw what happened. Believe it or not, that was an edited and condensed version. Can you imagine?
So, I read some responses to my first post, went back over some of my notes which didn’t make the cut, and I wanted to clarify a couple points which I see ruffled some well-established feathers:
Real Quick, my comments of the tree being a “decorative addition to have something from which the pear and pedant hang” and “…Or maybe it’s just a pear” were tongue-in-cheek and meant to be more of a transition to my next thought. I don’t know what the tree and pear mean yet, so it was kind of my way of saying, “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar” and then move on to the next topic. No big deal.
For the tree branch: I don’t really know trees. I know maples, pines, and palms… and only because there are helicopters, pine cones, and coconuts on the ground underneath them. I can occasionally recognize some fruit trees, but only if they still have their fruit on them. I only recently learned about live oaks from my trips to the Charleston area. So, when I am saying the branch looks like any branch on any tree, it does – to me, anyway. I know there is a significance to the branch, because he likely would not have taken the time to paint it otherwise. I just think the significance is not necessarily in the species of tree, but rather the shape of the branch. If it really is the species, I don’t stand a chance. I really hope it is the shape. I believe it is Image 4 which has Ohio and a tower outlined in the trees. Maybe that is what we are looking for. I just don’t know yet. And I could swear I found that exact shape in one of the trees in Washington Park. But I don’t know.
The Pear: Also significant to the image, as it too would likely not have been painted otherwise. Or at least not so big. This pear is huge when compared to the woman’s head but about the right size if the lion wanted to eat it. No, I’m not saying lions eat pears. Maybe it is another example of painting in perspective, which could mean it is somehow closer to us in relation to the woman if we are standing in a particular spot. Or maybe it is of higher importance in the overall message of the image. I will say, if it had a little man painted inside it, I would absolutely agree Pear + Man = Pearman… Bridge. I suppose I see where that connection could be made with just the pear alone. I sometimes forget that major landmarks may no longer exist, so it is harder for me to relate them to the image. But this bridge thing got me thinking and looking around the internet. I may have an additional theory. More on that at a later time.
Fort Sumter: You can’t know about U.S. History without knowing about The Civil War… The South… Charleston… Fort Sumter. That is where the first shots took place. That is where it all started (sort of). So, the Sumter Fort-face-clock-pendant may be the most historically significant of all the images. Yes, Fort Pulaski along the Savannah River looks just like Fort Sumter, and the surrounding area around Pulaski and Hilton Head looks very similar to the islands, inlets, marshes, beaches and… Nope. I’m still going with Fort Sumter and Charleston. I’ve come too far to change cities.
The star on the Sumter face is approximately where the original flagpole was when it was a fort, and the colored bars on the other check are about where the flagpoles are now (sort of). Maybe this is significant. Or, it could be that the colored bars are Ft. Johnson, the star is Ft. Moultrie, and the mouth is Morris Island or more specifically Ft. Wagner. That would utilize all of the face images, including the clock hands which I think reference streets, and the eyes which may resemble earthquake bolts or street signs. I have street-viewed all up and down Charleston but still have not found earthquake bolt caps that resemble those screw eyes. However, if not manhole covers, bolt caps or street signs, another possible match could be the Carolopolis award plaques on the historic buildings. Maybe our path takes us between two buildings with those plaques on them. If they are referring to earthquake bolts, does anyone know of any earthquake bolts that go between two structures? From an engineering perspective, that doesn’t really make sense to do that, but what if three structures were at one time connected, and the middle structure was removed or destroyed? That might leave an area where the bolts are exposed. Or if there is a small alley or path between to structures, they may have connected them for added stability. Either scenario would thereby make visible a “Bar that binds.”
I will try to come up with a correlation to a verse at some point. That’s all for now.

I think the lion will be seen when then proper location is found….
A Walking Tour of Historic Charleston, South Carolina
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Article by Carole Terrell
Charleston is one of the best walking cities in the U.S. and a good place to begin your walk is Charleston’s Waterfront Park. The waves slap gently against the boardwalk while locals and visitors alike enjoy swinging in oversized porch swings and strolling through the breezy park. People can be seen all around the park relaxing on benches, reading books while lying in the cool grass, walking and playing with their dogs, or going for their daily jog. Cruise ships and naval vessels often dock nearby and there is plenty of fishing to be done off the small pier. Telescopes are available in order to gain a closer look at wildlife and catch a glimpse of Patriot’s Point across the harbor, where out of service naval vessels are available for touring. Waterfront Park holds a fountain that sprays water in multiple directions and the public is welcome to run through the water and the spray of the fountain. Perfect for those humid summer days! The pineapple is the Southern symbol for hospitality and a pineapple-shaped fountain rests in the middle of the park, inviting walkers to soak their feet a few moments prior to venturing further into town to explore more opportunities.
Heading east out of Waterfront Park will lead you to the Battery at the tip of the peninsula, where ships with tall masts and sails once docked and Civil War cannons proudly stood, facing the harbor and the Atlantic Ocean. There seems to be a constant, steady breeze floating across the Battery, palm trees rustling in the wind and myriad boats sailing and racing across the harbor. This is one of the most relaxing and rejuvenating spots in the town, where you can take the time to be still in a busy world, breathe deeply, let the wind run its fingers through your hair and just lose yourself for a while in the sights and sounds of the harbor and the smell of the salty sea air.
Adjoining the Battery is White Point Gardens, a large grassy area shaded by massive oaks and fringed with cannons, monuments, and historical statues. Pigeons and seagulls often fly into the shaded park to eat and rest their wings. In the middle of the park is a large white gazebo and it isn’t uncommon to come across a wedding in progress or a string quartet playing in the gazebo.  Horse and buggies roll around the Battery and the park off and on all day, giving visitors a glimpse of the past, as do the grand old mansions lining the Battery.
From White Point Gardens you can continue your walk back through town on Meeting Street, which will eventually lead you to the City Market, or take your pick of any number of streets that crisscross the city, some of them still cobblestone just as they were a century ago. Take your time as you meander along the streets and past the homes that transport you back into the past with hidden gardens surrounded by decorative wrought iron gates and ancient Spanish moss-laden oaks. The clip-clop of horses’ feet, cemeteries, and some the oldest churches in our country remind you of the beginnings of America. Charleston is often referred to as “The Holy City” because there are so many churches; you are never out of sight of a church steeple. The whole city seems to be a garden in itself, lush with azaleas in the spring season and other types of blossoms and foliage the remainder of the year.  Everything is so picturesque, one would never know that Charleston has endured its share of devastating earthquakes, fires, and hurricanes through the years.
A self-guided tour is a great way to spend a day or a weekend, but to gain further insight and a sense of the city’s history, a guided walking tour is also an option. On a recent visit to Charleston, we chose to participate in one of the many walking tours, Anna’s House & Garden Walking Tour. Being a 12th generation Charleston native, Anna Blythe has an abundant knowledge of the area and its history. The tour begins under the green awning at 61 Queen St., at a shop called Charleston Gardens, and the tour goes rain or shine. Fortunately, the weather was perfect on this day- sunny and 80 degrees.
Anna was able to explain about many of the homes on the route: Who owned them, who bought them, additions and repairs throughout the years, the certain styles and periods of the homes, and just about everything you would want to learn. A home on Queen Street had actually been picked up and moved back in order to create parking space. The balconies of a three-story house near the Battery are supported by the three styles of Greek columns, going from bottom to top, Doric, Ionian, and Corinthian.  The architecture on all these homes is superb! There is so much to see. Our group learned about the windows in the homes that could be fully opened and used as doors, the stone blocks found all around the city that are stepping stones to enter a carriage, the boot scrapes placed outside the front door to remove dirt and mud, and how many of the homes are turned at an angle to catch the ocean breezes. And one of the most interesting things about the homes are the earthquake rods. Past earthquakes had shaken and shifted the homes, and rods were run through the homes in order to stabilize them. Once the rods were in place, they could be slowly turned until the house was once again level.
Even though the homes are elegant, they require constant upkeep and repair. Many of the first floors of homes and restaurants were flooded during Hurricane Hugo in 1989, which left a musty smell for quite some time and required extensive repair. One of the homes we passed had recently been painted a soft purple hue, described as “the marshes in winter.” Being a mountain girl, I likened it to the color of twilight over the mountains just before nightfall.
Anna led us into several secluded gardens along the way. Shady and cool with a multitude of greenery and fragrant blooms, goldfish ponds with flowing fountains, simple walkways and statues, the gardens gave all kinds of ideas that could be used in our own gardens at home. One of the gardens included a playhouse that four generations have played in and a dog who came out of the house to curiously look us over and then went back inside. I guess we all looked pretty harmless. Vines and native plants were pointed out to us all along the tour, one of them being the Jerusalem Thorn Bush. The bush has sets of thorns along its branches, one long and two short thorns that represent Jesus and the two thieves on the cross. It is believed that Jesus’ thorn of crowns was made from the Jerusalem Thorn Bush.
Toward the end of the tour we were ushered into the Palmer Home, an 1849 mansion located on 5 East Battery It is now operated as a bed and breakfast. This stately home is painted a soft pink with white trim and black shutters. The owners of the pink palace live in what used to be the carriage house and the bottom floor of the home and the other floors are used for the bed and breakfast operations. Our group was led through the front door of the home and up the carpeted staircase to the second floor dining room, where assorted refreshments of sweets and pink lemonade had been laid out for us to enjoy. We then took our refreshments onto the balcony (also called a piazza), where we relaxed in rocking chairs and gazed out to sea toward Fort Sumter. We waved to passersby as if we all lived there. The third floor piazza holds additional rocking chairs and a telescope for long range viewing. After taking the break from walking, we went back into the house for a tour of the parlors and bedrooms. Each room was colorful, and chandeliers glistened throughout the house. Anna pointed out pieces of antique furniture and glassware along with ancestral portraits on the walls. I noticed a lot of bird prints throughout the house, and photos of the family over the years gave the house a real homey touch. The ocean breeze keeps the house cool most of the time.
At the end of our house tour, we let ourselves out and closed the iron gate behind us, entering once again into the modern world. But as we walked around the Battery and onto Meeting Street, we were again greeted by the past, where we came upon African-American basket weavers selling their wares on the street. This type of basket-making was originally brought here from Africa and has been taught to each generation and preserved until today. The baskets are woven so tightly that they can easily hold water, and some of the baskets require 10 to 12 hours to create.
The tour ended on Queen Street, having made a loop around several blocks. City maps can be obtained at the visitor center, bikes can be rented, and a public transportation system is available to continue your self-guided tour. There is lots more to see! All types of architecture, history, plantations, the Citadel military academy, City Market, museums, succulent seafood, art, the South Carolina Aquarium and IMAX theater and, of course, the beaches, just about 20 minutes outside the city. The only tea plantation in America is located in Charleston. And all kinds of shopping. Clothing stores, chocolate shops, restaurants and the intoxicating aromas of those cozy little coffee and tobacco shops. So the next time you need a getaway to escape the fast pace of the world and uplift your spirits, consider a walking tour of Charleston’s historic district.

I think every hair in that lion’s mane that doesn’t follow the pattern of pointing outwardly, has a significant purpose to this puzzle.  I see an anchor and a pirate ship just above the pear tree.  I see an odd looking soldiers helmut just below the ear on the left side of the image with a right face profile.  I see the hwy with the backwards y above that ear.  I see three leaves specifically placed.  One just touching the 9 of our 79.  Another just touching the 4 and 5 just above the Charleston map.  The other is in the ship, just touching the anchor.  They have always bothered me and I’m not sure everyone will see them.
I see that the lion’s right ear looks like an ape or something smiling at whatever is going on on the forehead.  Looks like an explosion coming up from between the eyes.  The left ear looks like some kind of fairy with wings laughing at the same scene from the other side.  The eye’s, one has a caterpillar under it and the other a seahorse.  Now here’s a funny one that I don’t think I should mention on this board for fear that I would sound like an idiot, (why hold back now) but here goes…  The bottom wings of the butterfly, when turned upside down has Alice eating from the mushroom, bigger on one side, then smaller on the other.  Notice the large A’s in there.  You may need a real vivid imagination for that one.  Let me go a little further on this, I feel, and I cannot explain why because there is just not enough space here, that Alice, the Wonderland, and the Looking Glass have something to do with all the images.
Maybe I should be smoking the Hookah and nibbling on the shrooms

Unknown

Unknown:
In 1829 a structure was built on what is now Marion Square in downtown Charleston to house arms and ammunition, federal troops from nearby Fort Moultrie began guarding the new state assnal in 1830 and in 1832 they were replaced by state militia. Over the next 10 years assnals throughout the state were consolidated in Charleston and Columbia; Governor John Richardson eventually proposed converting both into military academies and on December 20, 1842, the South Carolina Legislature passed an Act “to convert the assnal at Columbia, and the citadel and magazine in and near Charleston, into Military Schools” thereby transforming the two State assnals into the South Carolina Military Academy.

Unknown

Unknown:
Father Patrick McGowan, a priest on the staff of the Diocese and himself an Irish immigrant, organized the construction of the Church of St. John the Baptist on Sullivan’s Island. A lot was purchased in April of 1845, slightly to the west of the present church. The church, a small wooden building, was completed later that summer. The first Mass was said in June, 1845, just two days before the Feast of St. John the Baptist.
The Church of St. John the Baptist remained in place through the War Between the States. Sullivan’s Island, the home of Fort Moultrie, suffered extensive bombardment by Federal troops, and by the end of the war, in 1865, the church was the only public building left standing on the island. Father Timothy Bermingham, the Vicar General of the Diocese of Charleston, took up Sullivan’s Island as a special project in the late 1860s. He first planned to rehabilitate the old church. By 1868, however, Father Bermingham developed the idea that a new church building should be the centerpiece for a restoration of Sullivan’s Island as a popular resort.
Father Bermingham bought the present church lot in October, 1868, for $100. He secured permission from the Secretary of War to use bricks from the ruins of Fort Moultrie to build the new church.

Here’s some random brainstorming on Image 2 / Verse 5.
Lane
Two twenty two
Station 22 and 22-and-a-half St…? Bit random though.
I once suggested that one of the things people might have associated with “Two twenty two” is an old comedy TV series called Room 222. One of the main characters was Richie Lane.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_222
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0688618/
But the only connection there I can see is that it’s set at Walt Whitman High School, and Whitman wrote a poem about
Osceola
. Quite a stretch.
You’ll see an arc of lights
I think that’s a decent enough clue for a lighthouse. Once you’ve got Charleston from the map and the lat/long, that narrows it down to about three.
Weight and roots extended
Together saved the site
It’s been suggested that this describes the value of the palmetto logs in defending Fort Moultrie. “Roots extended” is a very odd way of referring to “logs” – they’re not, really. “Weight” is pretty odd as well, though I noticed that Moultrie had sand-filled walls, so I guess “weight” might possibly tie in with “sand” via balloon ballast.
Of granite walls
OK, so Sumter and Moultrie have plenty of granite. (Stella Maris was built with stone raided from the fort.)
Wind swept halls
I’ve never understood what this was about. It could possibly be something in Poe, but no quotation has been found.
Citadel in the night
Probably a reference to Charleston’s Military College of South Carolina and its logo.
More Moultrie connections there…(this dumb forum changes a*r*s*e*n*a*l into “assnal”…)
A wingless bird ascended
Born of ancient dreams of flight
I’m happy with
The Balloon Hoax
for this. Apparently it was based on
The Moon Hoax
, the illustrations for which might have been another possible source of inspiration for wonder-woman.
(Ezra Pound used the phrase “ancient dreams of flight” in an essay called “The Wisdom of Poetry” – may also occur elsewhere. See P57
here
.)
Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
To the south
I’ve been wondering how people might have interpreted some of these lines seeing them for the first time. The southernmost National forests in the US are in Florida; eg Ocala and Osceola.
Here are some notes on the history of Stella Maris:
http://www.catholic-doc.org/stellamaris/history.html
I previously wondered if the “only standing member” might refer to this church at 1204 Osceola, as the only building left standing at one time; though I now see this was an earlier building, nearby, but not exactly the same.
Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
To the south
White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side
Get permission
To dig out
These directions are horribly ambiguous. I’d like to test the interpretation: “Get permission to dig out from the west side of the white stone”, but I can’t really explain the twelve paces. I’ve previously suggested it reminds me of duelling, “pistols at twelve paces”, and Osceola fought duels, eg see
here
. But that doesn’t make much of a clue for Osceola (and that one was fought at another common distance of ten paces), so maybe it does literally mean take twelve paces. But from where to where, and in what direction, I dunno.
I’ve come across a couple of references on Google to suggest that twelve paces could be taken as twelve yards.
Could the memorial be “twelve paces” striding from the church…?
You could then have:
Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
Church on Osceola.
To the south
White stone closest
At twelve paces
White stone 12 paces south.
From the west side
Get permission
To dig out
Get permission to dig out from the west side of this white stone.

ive been stuggling with those paces since the 80s,maybe BP meant PACE= 1foot
or what most have said on the net,avg 4.5-5ft = a pace
What is a pace?
A pace is equivalent to, two natural steps. Starting with your right foot as the first step, when your
left foot hits the ground you can count that as one pace
How many feet are in a pace?
The average length in feet of a pace will vary between people and will also vary across different
types of terrain. Most people will have a pace somewhere around 4.5 to 5 feet
http://www.backcountryattitude.com/pacing.html
more pace
pace [1]
a traditional unit of distance equal to the length of a person’s “full” pace, that is, the distance between two successive falls of the same foot. Thus one pace equals two steps. The Romans counted 1000 paces in a mile with each pace being a little over 58 inches (or about 148 centimeters). In English speaking countries, the pace is usually defined to be exactly 5 feet (or 152.4 centimeters); this unit is also called the great pace or geometrical pace. Obviously, a good metric version of the pace is exactly 1.5 meters.
pace [2]
in military use, the term “pace” is often used as an alternate name for the step; see military pace.
military pace
another name for a step. In the U.S. Army, the military pace is defined to be exactly 30 inches (76.2 centimeters) for ordinary “quick time” marching and 36 inches (91.44 centimeters) for double time marching. The same definitions are generally used by marching bands.
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictP.html
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/forestry/pdf/WON/won39.pdf
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/for/for47/for47.htm

In the wings of the butterfly lady, the circles
may
represent cannons.
But with the shading on them making them look more like “cones”, I
wonder if they could represent speakers.
If someone is familiar with our area…Is there a place that has multiple loudspeakers
or tornado sirens?…possibly stacked two together on poles?
The lines around the edge of the “speakers” may be sound waves.
Or…in an entirely different direction…If these are fountains, they could be water waves.
AP

on page 24, 3rd post down, of this thread, i had found a poem of blyden’s where he says “one flag”……..didn’t want to quote the whole post, ’cause i go on and on sometimes, and i couldn’t copy the poem for some reason…
why are these monuments of “Jasper” so different?
i had found this one: (back on p. 24 of this thread)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … 282%29.JPG
this one, the laurel leaves around it, kindof looks like the tree limbs in the image
this is where that picture came from, maybe it’s not the one in white point gardens because it didn’t say where it was, or i couldn’t find it:
http://dbpedia.org/page/William_Jasper
and then the ones i just posted:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmartin/45 … otostream/
http://popartmachine.com/item/pop_art/L … LC-D4-5794
and in this picture (on p. 24 of this thread) the flagpole is way bigger
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hdescopela … 7/sizes/o/

AP I hope jstarr knows what that is, i’d like to know too.
cw, thanks

cw0909

ap i think it is the bridge tower
A signature icon for the Charleston region, these towers reach 575 feet into the air and support a road deck about 200 feet above the median high tide mark.
http://www.cooperriverbridge.org/towers.shtml
http://www.cooperriverbridge.org/cameras.asp

cwo9o9,
I believe you must be right.
If the tower appears to be that large from this distance,
it must be immense!
So much for finding another obelisk on the waterfront.

well good and bad news, per my conversation with Dustin Clemens, the project manager (city parks)
i spoke to him at 10:45 am 11-18-09, dustin is a very nice man, he was genuinely interested in the story of the
hunt, and will be on the look out for the box, on any future projects in the park/s
bad news is
he said no plexy glass box was found,but would double check that.
the contractors only dug out to about 3 ft, from the base of the bandstand
good news
they found an old sewer system,under the bandstand,that needed to be filled in ie sealed an cemented
closed, it appears to run under walkway towards the flagpole, and it needs to be checked out
to make sure it wont collapse, so some digging near there in the future
dustin is going to send me pics of this update to the park,and info and pics on previous updates

ap i think it is the bridge tower
A signature icon for the Charleston region, these towers reach 575 feet into the air and support a road deck about 200 feet above the median high tide mark.
http://www.cooperriverbridge.org/towers.shtml
http://www.cooperriverbridge.org/cameras.asp
no prob slappy

im thinking maybe the fort sumter in pic has 2 meanings, since this
house is across from the park of interest

wow cw!  that’s exciting!  what do you think?  you think he will let you know if he finds anything? did you get him interested in the hunt?  wouldn’t that be something if they find it near the flagpole?  you did a great job!! thank you!

Yep. The same could be said for the Statue of Liberty — only the face is a match.

Also keep in mind a 1980 Kodak Polaroid didn’t have the greatest resolution so we should take that into account also.

decibalnyc

Also keep in mind a 1980 Kodak Polaroid didn’t have the greatest resolution so we should take that into account also.

I wish I had a polaroid sx-70 with film to go to my locations and take photos, I think the distortion/focal length would make it easier to identify the actual spots he viewed things from

Has anyone noted that there is something wrong with the cut of the diamond? If there is not a clue there, then that is the ugliest gem cut that I have ever seen.

I want to know what the yellow fruit mean

it takes us to the myths of prometheus bound/judgement of paris…as prometheus threw the golden pear from olympus to earth, at the feet of the three goddesses…and if you doubt me, consider how paris was selected to make the choice…and you’ll have your confirmation

is this the only image that contains a fruit then?

no. sf has a strawberry.

Excellent Rook! Definitely a different (new) perspective for V5. I did not forget either…I owe you some photos…
Eg, my thoughts as well…”Lane” is one of the major parts of that verse that I could never see fitting for this location and I will definitely keep that clue in mind when I go over there. (Unless Lane was a road or marker that has changed in the last three decades….but all of the asking around I have done hasn’t resulted in anyone recalling anything of the sort…)
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WhiteRabbit

A poster called bonestructure at SA came with up with an interesting theory about another of those markers at White Point Gardens, but couldn’t get permission to dig.

I thought that Bonestructure’s proposed solution of White Point Garden was fairly persuasive. Unfortunately, we may have missed our window of opportunity. It looks like the city of Charleston is doing some major renovations on that spot where the high battery meets the low battery:
http://www.charleston-sc.gov/index.aspx?NID=1065
You can see the satellite view of the work here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7695639,-79.9289249,77m/data=!3m1!1e3
Don’t give up hope, though! The satellite view is still showing those bushes along the east side of E. Battery, and that’s the place where Bonestructure thought the casque was in the sands. If that bit of ground needed to be excavated, I’m sure the construction company would have started by tearing out the plants.
Does anyone in Charleston feel like going down to White Point Garden and giving us a on-the-spot update about the conditions at the worksite? (Maybe someone could even get a manual labor job on the project and do a little digging on the side during a lunch break!)

Oregonian,
What was Bonestructure’s theory there?
The construction has completed…it has been for a little while now (couple of months maybe?). I was down there and the part of the high battery seawall has been re-modeled. The concrete is all new. If he is talking the flower beds, there’s a good chance they were dug up and/or replaced/redone. There is now a small wall containing the bushes and flowers, not just a curb.
It may still be there though. It’s a very public spot, but very easy to drive right up to and park 😉
I’ll attach images when I can!

tjgrey

Oregonian,
It may still be there though. It’s a very public spot, but very easy to drive right up to and park 😉
I’ll attach images when I can!

I agree completely… WPG is an awesome spot!

Here you go:
Construction finished.
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/26154353/ … y-complete
Here is what the new part of the seawall look like:
http://wciv.images.worldnow.com/images/4351027_G.jpg

tjgrey

What was Bonestructure’s theory there?

For Tjgrey, and anyone else who’s interested,
Bonestructure’s Charleston solve
was part of the Something Awful thread. (Scroll down to June 19, 2013 to see the refined version of the solution.) Basically she says that Verse 6 is taking us on a stroll through White Point Garden. There are references to the bandstand and the fountain and the various monuments. We end up at the High Battery looking across East Battery at the park. The large white mansion of 2 S. Battery is nearby. (“White house close at hand.”) The casque would be buried in the sand at the base of the High Battery.
Bonestructure tried to get permission to dig last year, but the city told her that “digging is a violation of SC’s antiquities preservation act and can result in a large fine and\or jail time.” But, of course, now they’re doing a major multimillion-dollar digging project and a tiny, little hole to look for the casque seems trivial by comparison. So, who knows? Maybe it could happen.
It would be great if someone in Charleston could use Bonestructure’s photos to get current shots of the same locations. Is the geological survey marker still there? It looks like the construction work was mostly at the corner, so our dig spot may still be intact. It may be premature to put this one in the “unrecoverable” category just yet.

Oregon,
Right. Definitely don’t write this one off! I do think the geoditic marker is still there. I will walk up there next time I’m at WPG. I think it was just the lower part of that walk/wall, including the flower beds, curb, and just the front of part of the high seawall in a spot (where you walk up on…the rest of the high part wasn’t changed to my knowledge).
Which brings up…can this be dug in as part of The Secret rules (a flower bed)? I don’t think if BP pointed us to the park that it would be right outside of the park…he kind of stuck to public parks, I can’t imagine if the clues pointed to the park that the casque wouldn’t be in the park. Just my take on it.
Yes, I have some photos (having issues getting anything posted), and I will get down there and take some more from the seawall.

Stella Maris still rules though. The upper mask could indicate an inside view of the arched window and organ stops.
Here’s a map showing church and Moultrie sign…I’m not sure where the infamous stone is…
Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
To the south
White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side
Get permission
To dig out.
“The only standing member of a forest” seems an unnecessarily complicated way of saying “tree”, and I still like the church/Osceola interpretation of this. Or it could be both I suppose. “Beneath” could be south on the map.
At twelve
The highlighted road to the south is Station 12 St. Butterfly lady and the glasses (sunglasses?) might suggest a beach location. This is the view from the bottom of 12 St.
Get permission
I was wondering if any of the various signs in this area might mention permits…

Hi all –
I’ve only been looking at this for a few days and it’ll take me a while to get my head round all the amazing research on this book, so forgive my general ignorance. Couldn’t resist posting a few random thoughts on this image to clear my head, though it’s probably nonsense. 😉
I’m wondering about the idea of a lion hidden behind a “Fort Sumter” mask. Has anyone investigated the other Sumter, which also falls within the range of latitude and longitude…? It has a “Swan Lake Iris Garden” on Liberty Street. (Didn’t the solution for Image 4 involve Liberty Boulevard…? I’m interested in the recurrence of the lion image.) The white fringes of the fairy’s wings resemble feathers.
Sumter is the “Gamecock City”. The Gamecocks are associated with the University of South Carolina, which seems to be on Sumter Street, founded 1801. It’s possible to see an “1801” and a “USC” around the 80, though it’s possible to see almost anything in all those whiskers…

fox not sure why we would need to start another topic on p-2 ……………
but as far as the eyes not sure it was mentioned, they look like bolts that uses a flat headed screwdriver
and the mouth looks,  like a white picket fence with 2 something at the ends, and a path maybe for the bar,
at the bottom of mouth, then there is the red, white, blue, bars and the star, says flag,american, something
maybe a monument, with a flag on it
bolts, bars, star, fence, maybe if you were standing there it would make sense

Didn’t start a new topic on P2…I just moved it up since we may want to start looking this over again with the location of the correct V.

Wow…never saw this message before when preparing to post here:
“Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you’re sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic. “
I can’t believe P2 thread had made it all the way to page 3 of the threads.  Was just browsing pictures of White Point Gardens and came accross the gazebo that many have mentioned.
http://flickr.com/photos/13453262@N03/2246137271/
I always wondered about the eye shapes on the mask w/ map head and always thought there was a pronounced “h” or “n” utilizing the left eye.  Could that extension upwards between the eyes simply be the extended molding between the arches of the gazebo?
*one thing I find kind of funny is that any house/home/abode/etc..w/in this park, regardless of it’s color, could be considered a “White house”.

This poster of a lion (with people legs and faces ) is an influencer out of all the other images in the world (predating 1981) of lions? not a national geographic image or a childs book of animals, or even a ringling bros poster?
What roman Numeral III?

Dero’s post has encouraged me to post my thoughts on the Charleston casque. I have not thoroughly read through all past posts so I apologize if my thoughts are old news. I discovered The Secret and this forum in January ’16 so I am definitely late to this party. I do think it is so cool that some of you have been at this for decades now. And I have figured out that a lot of ya’ll are working together off the grid, which makes it not as fun for some of us newbies that would love to have your latest thoughts. That being said, I would love feedback.
When I first started looking at the Charleston image, I found it frustrating because it didn’t seem to have things drawn in the image like the fencepost for the Chicago casque. I then found on the forum that a good number of people thought that the Charleston casque was in WPG so I took the verse, ignored the image, and decided that it was in one of three places. My best guess (without actually visiting WPG) was that it was across the street from where the USS Maine Capstan once stood on East Battery. Before too long, I discovered another forum where someone named Bone Structure had already come up with the same place and a number of people had concluded she was right. Sadly, I then found photos of the spot being completely rebuilt after the hurricane. If it was in that spot, it is now most assuredly gone.
While waiting on the opportunity to go to WPG to check out my other two spots, Erexere posted a message that had to do with geometric lines. I began wondering if I could find something in Image 2 that would function as instructions that would lead one to WPG via lines. Once I had my theory, I went to WPG and upon actually going through the city, I eliminated two of my three options of dig spots (including my original top choice spot.) Ironically, the verse currently has me questioning whether or not WPG is correct, although I am convinced the image takes you to WPG.
FYI, I have no idea what I am doing regarding posting pictures. I have attempted to put pictures in an album in photobucket. I hope it works.
Once again, some of you likely figured all this out in the 80’s. Forgive me if this is old news. Here is my attempt to decipher the image:
A) The most obvious landmark in Image 2 is Fort Sumter. Therefore, start there.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … wbkqmi.jpg
B) From Fort Sumter, take the return ferry to the the ferry’s departure point:
http://www.fortsumtertours.com/quick-answers/
The ferry departs and returns in Downtown Charleston at Liberty Square’s Fort Sumter Visitors Center, 340 Concord St. Charleston, SC 29401
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … bv9oz9.jpg
C) 340 Concord intersects with Calhoun Street.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … pypf3e.jpg
Note: There is a flagpole that is surrounded by a semicircle—I have no idea if the ears of the lion represent this, but you do pass it on the way to Calhoun Street. (Flag pole is in between B and C. On map it says Freedom Lane.)
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … wmu033.jpg
Once on Calhoun Street, head to King Street which is represented by lion in image 2.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … 0ltqv8.jpg
D) Before you get to King Street, you will come to Meeting Street. I believe that the “h” in the mask is referring to the Hampton Obelisk, which is on Calhoun and Meeting.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … jlg8jn.jpg
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … ccoszd.jpg
Hampton Obelisk
Date Created/Placed: 1911
Address:
Calhoun and Meeting st.
Charleston South Carolinia
(Marion Square)
Height: 30 ft.
(There are two obelisks in Charleston, hence the need for the h in image 2.
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM4HNK
The other one is on Broad and Meeting.
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM45 … h_Carolina
)
-When you see the “h” landmark on Calhoun (Hampton Obelisk), turn Left on Meeting Street and head toward White Point Garden (represented by the white on the moth or butterfly).
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … 1q9oaw.jpg
Note: Meeting Street is parallel to King Street. The h in the nose of the mask (Hampton Obelisk) is parallel to the nose of the lion (King Street). Also, the top of the h on the map is very near where the obelisk actually is if you look at a city map of Charleston.).
E) On Meeting Street, on the way to WPG, you will pass Gibbes Museum of Art. I believe the girl in Image 2 is a reference to the statue outside the Museum. I copied picture from animal painter’s Oct 18, 2009 post. At some point, I read something about the girl being a nod to the Flying Charleston and the Hand to Hand Charleston (dances). I thought that was pretty clever.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … asqs7i.jpg
Stay on Meeting, keep heading to WPG.
F) From Meeting Street, cross the street into WPG.
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p71 … qnvjga.jpg
From this point, we need verse 6.
To be continued…

(Ah, OK…thanks for that!)