jayheedan1
Sat Aug 04, 2018 2:01 am
Was the camel at least a dromedary? Looks a lot like the camel cigarette icon…it was the 70’s
JoshCornell
Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:46 am

jayheedan1

Was the camel at least a dromedary? Looks a lot like the camel cigarette icon…it was the 70’s

the picture is here on the forum if you want to browse through my posts.

JoshCornell
Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:48 am
posted as anus905 btw…lol
fox
Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:18 pm
Thought I would do a little research on the immigration patterns in relationship to our Ps.  Here is some initial findings:
P1 – Cathay = Asia…. * Angel Island (San Francisco) was known as “The Ellis Island of the West” & “China Cove”
——— Fits Perfectly w/ our theories for this P.
P2 – Africa…. * Sullivan’s Island, a tiny quarantine station in Charleston harbor, became the Ellis Island of black America.  Thousands of slaves taken from Africa and shipped to America landed here between 1619 and 1808.
———-Fits Perfectly w/ our theories.
P3 – England…  * In 1607 James I granted permission for a group of merchants to establish a permanent English settlement in America at Jamestown, Virginia. (Roanoke VA???)
also
in 1620 one hundred and two people boarded the Mayflower in Delft Harbour and after crossing the Atlantic settled at a place they called Plymouth in Massachusetts Bay. (Boston???)
———-These English seemed to settle everywhere….hard one to pin down.
P4 – Hellas = Greek… * There was little Greek emigration in the 19th century but this changed in the 20th century.  Many of the Greeks ended up in NY, Chicago, Detroit, Boston & St. Louis.  NO mention of Cleveland (hmmm?)…
——— casque was found in Greek Cultural Gardens, Cleveland
P5 – Celtic …  * Irish occupation of Chicago is well known.  Here is long article:
http://www.lib.niu.edu/ipo/1999/iht629912.html
P6 – Hadas of Iberia = Spain… * In 1513 the Spanish explorer, Ponce De Leon discovered Florida.  St. Augustine, Florida, founded by Pedro Merendez in 1565, was the first permanent settlement established by Europeans in what is now the United States.
———Fits perfectly
P7 – Fays of France….. * The French, like the English, were all over the place. In 1608 the explorer, Samuel de Champlain, founded the first permanent French colony at Quebec. He also explored the area that is now northern New York State. Robert Cavalier de LaSalle who sailed down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico and claimed the entire territory for France. He named the territory Louisiana in honor of King Louis XIV. New Orleans, founded in 1718, became a busy seaport and trading centre.
——— Fits nicely.  N.O. is known for French Qtrs and the city was named by Phillipe, Duc d’Orleans.
P8 – Araby = The country of Arabia. [Archaic & Poetic]…. * hard to pinpoint.  Many Arab immigrants settled in cities of the northeastern US – New York, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, and Cleveland…but Houston has the fifth-largest population of Arab descent of any city in the United States and Houston has one of the more settled Arab communities.
———hard to pinpoint w/ certainty this P w/ Houston
P9 – Lowlands = The Scots…. * Most Scots emigrated to Canada.  The connection between Scotland and Canada goes back more than 300 years to the 17th century. Scotland established one of the earliest colonies in Canada when Sir William Alexander was granted a charter for Nova Scotia in 1621.
———-hmmmm, Maybe we should be focussing on Canada with this P.
P10 – Germans…. * A large number of Germans were drawn to Milwaukee.  Milwaukee is home to the largest German Fest in the United States.  Milwaukee’s nickname is the German Athens. During the later part of the 19th century, the German immigrant community was about 1/3 of Milwaukee’s population.
————Looks Perfect fit to me.
P11 – Italy…. * There was little Italian emigration to the United States before 1870. From 1890 to 1900, 655,888 arrived in the United States, of whom two-thirds were men.  Most Italians found unskilled work in America’s cities. There were large colonies in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore and Detroit.  Another list….but look, it contains BALTIMORE…
————Is this our Baltimore P?  They do have their famous district of Little Italy.
P12 – Russians….. * Research suggests that over half settled in New York and Pennsylvania.  Large numbers of Russians settled in the Lower East Side of New York.
http://www.chosenpeople.com/docs/GB/Res … ation.html
“By 1920 there were 1,650,000—almost one third of the city’s population.”
—————-Looks cut and dry to me.
and to think, much of this immigration making U.S. who we are today was a result of
Trohn
Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:20 pm
Nice work,
but of the two we have found,
the theory works fifty percent,
and the one in Houston – you fudge the
argument to fit the known.
(just being objective)
forest_blight
Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:36 pm
Regarding P8 and Arabia, in “The Passage to the New World” (p. 16) is written that the fairies from Arabia “sought and found the sunset land.” I take that to mean the American West, and Houston isn’t that much of a stretch.
nodon
Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:51 am
sorry if I’m missing the completely obvious and well-discussed issue of Dutch vs. Scots on P.9.
p. 13 of the book mentions the “Dutch merchant empire of the Lowland Alven”.
p. 17 of the book mentions that “(The Hill Folk of Scotland and Ireland were, in fact, near cousins and of a single nation”.
wilhouse
Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:19 am
in the Houston pic, the genie is right next to the Asia exhibit in the zoo.
of course, Arabia is considered to be part of the Asian continent.
wilhouse
maltedfalcon
Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:57 am

JoshCornell

the rhino leads you to egypt.

Just curious, Why would a rhino lead you to egypt?

jayheedan1
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:27 am

JoshCornell

Is the camel on the outside of the building? If not I don’t think Preiss would have used waypoints inside of buildings.

Euhirudinea
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:54 am

Unknown

Unknown:
I wonder if Preiss has other plans for some of these burial sites then got distracted or lazy and was like “this southern airport hub city is good enough” then buried the thing. The Land of long sunsets crimson flowers and sweet smelling air is more Arizona/New Mexico deserts then Texas I would have thought. Still makes me wonder if it’s a tie in to verse 7s line the air smells sweet.

This is a thing of beauty. Bravo.

maltedfalcon
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:14 am

jayheedan1

Is the camel on the outside of the building? If not I don’t think Preiss would have used waypoints inside of buildings.

no it is in the museum and is barely a few inches tall.
and besides being unmistakably a camel, looks nothing like the one on the pillar.

JoshCornell
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:56 am

jayheedan1

Is the camel on the outside of the building? If not I don’t think Preiss would have used waypoints inside of buildings.

no. and youre incredibly WRONG. so incredibly wrong. why do you think he takes you to places?

JoshCornell
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:56 am

maltedfalcon

no it is in the museum and is barely a few inches tall.
and besides being unmistakably a camel, looks nothing like the one on the pillar.

are you kidding me? its exact.

JoshCornell
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:57 am
whats the most obvious reference to the rhino (ive already outlined this here, but ill do it again, cause clearly you guys dont read)…
Doghousereiley
Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:47 pm

forest_blight

Regarding P8 and Arabia, in “The Passage to the New World” (p. 16) is written that the fairies from Arabia “sought and found the sunset land.” I take that to mean the American West, and Houston isn’t that much of a stretch.

I thought the Arabia connection was to Houston because it was a center for the Oil industry in the 1980s. Texas is thought by many as part of the American West. But I still think it is obscure compared to Chicago and Cleveland

jayheedan1
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:40 pm
I wonder if Preiss has other plans for some of these burial sites then got distracted or lazy and was like “this southern airport hub city is good enough” then buried the thing. The Land of long sunsets crimson flowers and sweet smelling air is more Arizona/New Mexico deserts then Texas I would have thought. Still makes me wonder if it’s a tie in to verse 7s line the air smells sweet.
JoshCornell
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:11 pm

Doghousereiley

I thought the Arabia connection was to Houston because it was a center for the Oil industry in the 1980s. Texas is thought by many as part of the American West. But I still think it is obscure compared to Chicago and Cleveland

ive also explained the clear connection to egypt (which takes you to the natural history museum, where you find the miniature camel).

jayheedan1
Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:23 am
Can we use the immigration references to pick out any potential casque parks in our narrowed down cities? Not sure there is a connection to all the parks but does seem to link to some.
The Greek casque was found in the Greek cultural gardens – the text states that Pan willed them away to the Hesperides or garden
The Spainish casque is thought to be in the FOY Park. The text says …the conquistadors took the Dracs and Fadas by surprise and they fled without taking the time to disenchant their Fountain of Youth dot dot dot (…)
The English (Britain) casque is thought to be at the Elizabethan Gardens. The text talks about the queen of England(Mab) and her subjects makes since that this park has a dedication to queen Elizabeth.
The Chinese references use the word “Golden” a lot…may elude to Golden gate park as a confirmer.
Trapezoid
Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:47 pm
“Baghdad on the Bayou” is an old nickname of Houston’s. I assume it’s an oil thing.
JoshCornell
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:04 pm
its an oil thing on one hand, theres a connection to egypt too.
Spiritr
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:08 pm

JoshCornell

its an oil thing on one hand, theres a connection to egypt too.

the..camel ?

JoshCornell
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:20 pm
no, you find the camel after finding the connection to egypt and going to the museum, and like the train, its a miniature…
Spiritr
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:27 pm
within the image or verse?
JoshCornell
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:40 pm
the rhino leads you to egypt.
JoshCornell
Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:42 pm
…and gives you overall starting point for this puzzle