In this day and age you probably need a ground penetrating radar machine (GPR) to locate underground anomalies to pin point possible dig sites. Most locations now wont let you dig 5 to 10 holes 3 to 4 feet deep on there properties without prior approval.. Its important to talk to the people in charge first. Let them know you are just scanning the ground to locate lines and possible objects. Once you interpret the data. Narrow your choice to one or two spot. Get permission and show them the data and purpose of your dig. It maybe costly but it will save you lots of time and give you concrete data.
Good luck
P.S. All i need is for 20 people to donate 100 dollars to rent one for the weekend.
Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:46 pm
Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:29 am
decibalnyc
Getting permission is the best method, but be warned, when I went that route, the permit I was granted by the parks dept. stated that the casque, if found, would be the property of the park. I don’t know that all cities would be like that, but Lake Park is defiantly of the opinion that the casque belongs to the city, not the finder. That gives you a peek into Milwaukee corruption and politics.
I’d hope that if it really came down to it, the land owner would realize that the casque is ultimately of little monetary value, and the potential bad publicity from keeping it could outweigh whatever they hoped to gain. But on the other hand, I know how bureaucracies are loath to set precedents or make exceptions to rules.
Maybe the trick is to make them think we’re looking for a giant pirate treasure chest, so when we stumble upon the real treasure, we can just say “Nope–found nothing but this crappy Plexiglas box!”
Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:43 pm
Lol Frisco…i hope that day comes.
Sat Dec 05, 2015 5:21 pm
Merlot Brougham
C’mon now. Everyone knows reality is more Huxley’s “Brave New World” than Orwell’s “1984”
“Not to get all political, but we can’t have nice things because we live in an Orwellian dystopia.”
Let’s just not go there…I’ve been down that entire rabbit hole and back. Been to the Master Building on 103rd and Riverside in NYC, I’ve studied at the Philosophical Research Society, Manly P Hall’s little gem of a Gnostic library in L.A., I’ve looked into joining the Rosicrucians, watched the Money Masters about 10 times, studied the history of Francis Bacon, the Freemasons, the Federalist Papers and how they relate to the constitution (which is no easy understanding), and every (and I hate using the pejorative term) conspiracy theory that is out there. It doesn’t matter if you see it as Philip K Dick’s future, Asimov’s future, Huxley, Orwell, or whatever…the point is in 1981 you could dig in a park and look for a casque without any fear of going to jail. Today…it’s almost a given that you will end up in the back of a squad car or worse if you get caught doing this.
Sun Dec 06, 2015 8:27 pm
True, people are a whole lot more suspicious today, but if you are honest with them, they usually just let you go on your merry business. I was probing the ground when a couple of cops came up and asked what I was doing. I told them I was looking for buried treasure, and they laughed, but let me be and left they didn’t even ask for ID. I hung around that park for a few more hours and had no issues after that…this was a few weeks ago.
Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:12 am
Unknown
Unknown:
I just find it interesting that they were all buried without permission, yet without trouble; but extracting them, not so.
Because quite simply, it is much easier to bury something than it is to dig something up. My guess is that by the third casque, Preiss could make a hole, drop the box in, re-fill the hole, and be gone in about 5 minutes. If he ran into problems, he could just walk away and come back later when the area was safe again. After all, who is going to take notice of a pile of dirt? Compare that to what we are up against trying to get one of these things out of the ground today. Egbert knew exactly where to look, and it still took him and Siskel almost the whole day to retrieve it. And that one was in a bounded area. I suspect we won’t be so fortunate with our next treasure ground, which means retrieval is going to take patience, perserverance, a little bit of luck, and a whole lot more than just 5 minutes.
Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:32 pm
One thing most people who weren’t born in the 60’s or 70’s don’t quite understand…and I’m not trying to put this into a political debate, is that we now live in a surveillance / police state. The police can and will put you in jail for literally anything. Back in the 80’s it was the wild west compared to today. If you were caught drinking in the park after dark, the cops would just tell you to “get out of here,” today they say “GET ON THE GROUND” and you go to jail. I doubt BP, like the rest of us, would have ever dreamed that our country would have turned into the police state that it is.
Also BP did have disguises with him, probably some sort of construction / parks employee uniform for places that were too obvious. That in itself is a clue that he could have, and most likely did put some of these in places that were fairly exposed. If you chose to use a disguise now days, and you were caught…that’s probably certain jail time.
Also think about the guys in Chicago who dug about 10 holes in grant park in the mid 80’s. People were all around, no one called the cops, and no one was arrested. Try and dig a hole in Grant Park today and you’ll be lucky not to be arrested. That’s not to say that you can’t do it. Like 421 says, sometimes you just have to resign to doing it, and use all your skills and instincts to be cautious. OR spend the time to get permission, which takes a while…just ask TJ, or myself.
In Milwaukee, I spent a week digging 10-15 holes…every day from 9am – 5pm, it wasn’t until the very last day of digging that a parks employee finally came to talk to me. Luckily because I had a relationship with the parks, there were no severe consequences, I just had to wait for the paperwork to go through on my rite of entry.
This hunt is difficult because of the way politics and the issue of power and control over the people have evolved. We used to live in a world that had much more freedom. In the 80’s, we didn’t have this Orwellian atmosphere with cameras on every pole that can hold one, surveillance drones flying all over and this bogus war on terror which will never end. Plus there are at least twice as many cops on the street now than there were in the 80’s and all of them are equipped with military hardware, tasers, and chemical means of disabling people.
In 1980 it would be outrageous for someone to be locked up for digging a hole in the park, today it would be considered totally normal and justified…after all you could be a “terrorist” putting an explosive in the ground, or at least that reasoning is within “their” justification these days. Also I wouldn’t doubt that your shovel would be considered a deadly weapon and give the police grounds to taser you and lock you up. This is the world we live in, and unfortunately for wholesome, non threatening activities such as what we do, it becomes almost impossible. There is very little you can do that the police can’t arrest you for by their own bogus justifications.
Even the right of entry permit that was issued to me (that I never signed) had a provision that the actual casque, if found, would be the property of Milwaukee County…so here we can see the egregious position that the local government takes…it was never theirs to begin with, and even though you took the time to do the research, and even go through the proper channels to get permission…they keep your property. Just a word of advice, Milwaukee County is a specific kind of evil. They will F you HARD for any illegal or legal activity…and sometimes for no reason at all. Police there empty full clips into homeless people sleeping in the park, and incidentally, that officer who killed the man in red arrow park…wasn’t even fired, was never charged with anything, and he works the streets of Milwaukee to this day.
I took a risk doing what I did, and you can too, but just realize that it is a risk and protect yourself the best you can. In the coming year there is probably going to be a big influx of people joining this hunt…we’ve seen it ramp up over the last few years…and if you think it’s difficult now, just wait till everyone takes the standpoint that the owner of FOY took and has people watching the suspected areas specifically for trespassing and digging. All it’s going to take is a few people coming to parks with shovels and making holes before they try to ban the whole thing out of the realm of possibility.
The short answer to why it’s so hard… 1984 by Orwell. I think those who were children of the late 60’s and early 70’s would agree with me on how our freedom is much much less than it was in 1981.
Also BP did have disguises with him, probably some sort of construction / parks employee uniform for places that were too obvious. That in itself is a clue that he could have, and most likely did put some of these in places that were fairly exposed. If you chose to use a disguise now days, and you were caught…that’s probably certain jail time.
Also think about the guys in Chicago who dug about 10 holes in grant park in the mid 80’s. People were all around, no one called the cops, and no one was arrested. Try and dig a hole in Grant Park today and you’ll be lucky not to be arrested. That’s not to say that you can’t do it. Like 421 says, sometimes you just have to resign to doing it, and use all your skills and instincts to be cautious. OR spend the time to get permission, which takes a while…just ask TJ, or myself.
In Milwaukee, I spent a week digging 10-15 holes…every day from 9am – 5pm, it wasn’t until the very last day of digging that a parks employee finally came to talk to me. Luckily because I had a relationship with the parks, there were no severe consequences, I just had to wait for the paperwork to go through on my rite of entry.
This hunt is difficult because of the way politics and the issue of power and control over the people have evolved. We used to live in a world that had much more freedom. In the 80’s, we didn’t have this Orwellian atmosphere with cameras on every pole that can hold one, surveillance drones flying all over and this bogus war on terror which will never end. Plus there are at least twice as many cops on the street now than there were in the 80’s and all of them are equipped with military hardware, tasers, and chemical means of disabling people.
In 1980 it would be outrageous for someone to be locked up for digging a hole in the park, today it would be considered totally normal and justified…after all you could be a “terrorist” putting an explosive in the ground, or at least that reasoning is within “their” justification these days. Also I wouldn’t doubt that your shovel would be considered a deadly weapon and give the police grounds to taser you and lock you up. This is the world we live in, and unfortunately for wholesome, non threatening activities such as what we do, it becomes almost impossible. There is very little you can do that the police can’t arrest you for by their own bogus justifications.
Even the right of entry permit that was issued to me (that I never signed) had a provision that the actual casque, if found, would be the property of Milwaukee County…so here we can see the egregious position that the local government takes…it was never theirs to begin with, and even though you took the time to do the research, and even go through the proper channels to get permission…they keep your property. Just a word of advice, Milwaukee County is a specific kind of evil. They will F you HARD for any illegal or legal activity…and sometimes for no reason at all. Police there empty full clips into homeless people sleeping in the park, and incidentally, that officer who killed the man in red arrow park…wasn’t even fired, was never charged with anything, and he works the streets of Milwaukee to this day.
I took a risk doing what I did, and you can too, but just realize that it is a risk and protect yourself the best you can. In the coming year there is probably going to be a big influx of people joining this hunt…we’ve seen it ramp up over the last few years…and if you think it’s difficult now, just wait till everyone takes the standpoint that the owner of FOY took and has people watching the suspected areas specifically for trespassing and digging. All it’s going to take is a few people coming to parks with shovels and making holes before they try to ban the whole thing out of the realm of possibility.
The short answer to why it’s so hard… 1984 by Orwell. I think those who were children of the late 60’s and early 70’s would agree with me on how our freedom is much much less than it was in 1981.
Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:47 am
Euhirudinea
Preiss could make a hole, drop the box in, re-fill the hole, and be gone in about 5 minutes. If he ran into problems, he could just walk away and come back later when the area was safe again.
Of course digging up is harder than burrying, but if BP did it in 5 minutes, so can we.
Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:13 am
Unknown
Unknown:
Of course digging up is harder than burrying, but if BP did it in 5 minutes, so can we
Preiss knew EXACTLY where to dig. I’d allow a little more time.
Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:07 pm
Dave,
I’ve used a GPR in lake park many times, AP and I even did a mock casque burial to try and see what a casque would look like 2.5 feet underground on the GPR. It’s actually not that easy. The GPR will locate ground disturbance and show air pockets but the system measures in density. The only way to get an accurate picture is to scan a large square area and extrapolate the data in a computer program. With Lake Park, the ground is all landfill, so there are tons of large rocks and bricks and other debris which give off false readings. Also it only works on flat surfaces so if you are trying to scan a hill, you will get false readings as well. Now the GPR I used was the Noggin Smart Cart, there have been significant advances in the technology since then, but even so, if I were you I would try to find an expert in reading the data before renting a GPR. It took me 3 expeditions with the unit to just understand what the data meant. I’m not saying it isn’t helpful, but the verse, when followed correctly, should lead you to a 2’x2′ spot to dig. Unfortunately because of the time passing you really have to do a lot of historical research to help retrace the steps BP was trying to lay out in the 80’s.
Getting permission is the best method, but be warned, when I went that route, the permit I was granted by the parks dept. stated that the casque, if found, would be the property of the park. I don’t know that all cities would be like that, but Lake Park is defiantly of the opinion that the casque belongs to the city, not the finder. That gives you a peek into Milwaukee corruption and politics.
I’ve used a GPR in lake park many times, AP and I even did a mock casque burial to try and see what a casque would look like 2.5 feet underground on the GPR. It’s actually not that easy. The GPR will locate ground disturbance and show air pockets but the system measures in density. The only way to get an accurate picture is to scan a large square area and extrapolate the data in a computer program. With Lake Park, the ground is all landfill, so there are tons of large rocks and bricks and other debris which give off false readings. Also it only works on flat surfaces so if you are trying to scan a hill, you will get false readings as well. Now the GPR I used was the Noggin Smart Cart, there have been significant advances in the technology since then, but even so, if I were you I would try to find an expert in reading the data before renting a GPR. It took me 3 expeditions with the unit to just understand what the data meant. I’m not saying it isn’t helpful, but the verse, when followed correctly, should lead you to a 2’x2′ spot to dig. Unfortunately because of the time passing you really have to do a lot of historical research to help retrace the steps BP was trying to lay out in the 80’s.
Getting permission is the best method, but be warned, when I went that route, the permit I was granted by the parks dept. stated that the casque, if found, would be the property of the park. I don’t know that all cities would be like that, but Lake Park is defiantly of the opinion that the casque belongs to the city, not the finder. That gives you a peek into Milwaukee corruption and politics.
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:30 am
decibalnyc
One thing most people who weren’t born in the 60’s or 70’s don’t quite understand…and I’m not trying to put this into a political debate, is that we now live in a surveillance / police state. The police can and will put you in jail for literally anything. Back in the 80’s it was the wild west compared to today. If you were caught drinking in the park after dark, the cops would just tell you to “get out of here,” today they say “GET ON THE GROUND” and you go to jail. I doubt BP, like the rest of us, would have ever dreamed that our country would have turned into the police state that it is.
Also BP did have disguises with him, probably some sort of construction / parks employee uniform for places that were too obvious. That in itself is a clue that he could have, and most likely did put some of these in places that were fairly exposed. If you chose to use a disguise now days, and you were caught…that’s probably certain jail time.
Also think about the guys in Chicago who dug about 10 holes in grant park in the mid 80’s. People were all around, no one called the cops, and no one was arrested. Try and dig a hole in Grant Park today and you’ll be lucky not to be arrested. That’s not to say that you can’t do it. Like 421 says, sometimes you just have to resign to doing it, and use all your skills and instincts to be cautious. OR spend the time to get permission, which takes a while…just ask TJ, or myself.
In Milwaukee, I spent a week digging 10-15 holes…every day from 9am – 5pm, it wasn’t until the very last day of digging that a parks employee finally came to talk to me. Luckily because I had a relationship with the parks, there were no severe consequences, I just had to wait for the paperwork to go through on my rite of entry.
This hunt is difficult because of the way politics and the issue of power and control over the people have evolved. We used to live in a world that had much more freedom. In the 80’s, we didn’t have this Orwellian atmosphere with cameras on every pole that can hold one, surveillance drones flying all over and this bogus war on terror which will never end. Plus there are at least twice as many cops on the street now than there were in the 80’s and all of them are equipped with military hardware, tasers, and chemical means of disabling people.
In 1980 it would be outrageous for someone to be locked up for digging a hole in the park, today it would be considered totally normal and justified…after all you could be a “terrorist” putting an explosive in the ground, or at least that reasoning is within “their” justification these days. Also I wouldn’t doubt that your shovel would be considered a deadly weapon and give the police grounds to taser you and lock you up. This is the world we live in, and unfortunately for wholesome, non threatening activities such as what we do, it becomes almost impossible. There is very little you can do that the police can’t arrest you for by their own bogus justifications.
Even the right of entry permit that was issued to me (that I never signed) had a provision that the actual casque, if found, would be the property of Milwaukee County…so here we can see the egregious position that the local government takes…it was never theirs to begin with, and even though you took the time to do the research, and even go through the proper channels to get permission…they keep your property. Just a word of advice, Milwaukee County is a specific kind of evil. They will F you HARD for any illegal or legal activity…and sometimes for no reason at all. Police there empty full clips into homeless people sleeping in the park, and incidentally, that officer who killed the man in red arrow park…wasn’t even fired, was never charged with anything, and he works the streets of Milwaukee to this day.
I took a risk doing what I did, and you can too, but just realize that it is a risk and protect yourself the best you can. In the coming year there is probably going to be a big influx of people joining this hunt…we’ve seen it ramp up over the last few years…and if you think it’s difficult now, just wait till everyone takes the standpoint that the owner of FOY took and has people watching the suspected areas specifically for trespassing and digging. All it’s going to take is a few people coming to parks with shovels and making holes before they try to ban the whole thing out of the realm of possibility.
The short answer to why it’s so hard… 1984 by Orwell. I think those who were children of the late 60’s and early 70’s would agree with me on how our freedom is much much less than it was in 1981.
C’mon now. Everyone knows reality is more Huxley’s “Brave New World” than Orwell’s “1984”
“Not to get all political, but we can’t have nice things because we live in an Orwellian dystopia.”
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:45 am
The terrorists have won. We can’t even dig a 3’x3’x3′ hole in the ground without arousing suspicion anymore!
At least I’m not a minority. They’ll probably at least ask me what I’m doing before they decide whether or not to open fire. Just gotta remember not to wear a hoodie.
At least I’m not a minority. They’ll probably at least ask me what I’m doing before they decide whether or not to open fire. Just gotta remember not to wear a hoodie.
Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:52 am
Frisco
The terrorists have won. We can’t even dig a 3’x3’x3′ hole in the ground without arousing suspicion anymore!
At least I’m not a minority. They’ll probably at least ask me what I’m doing before they decide whether or not to open fire. Just gotta remember not to wear a hoodie.
Why do you think I concentrate my efforts on Image9/Montreal? My only consideration is the shakedown I’ll get at the border when trying to return to my own country.
Thanks,
BUSH!
OBAMA!
Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:04 am
Man, I don’t think I could ever dig in Canada. Back in the 90s I was in the process of moving to Vermont. I was young and poor and I had my stuff in my car and was staying with a friend in NY along the way. We decided to take a trip up to Toronto for a few days. Well, we get to the border and they give us all sorts of shit. They say we don’t have enough money to spend a weekend there (we did). Then they decided that we were defecting, because I had a couple boxes in the back seat.
Then I made a mistake. I said, “you think I’m defecting TO Canada? Why would anyone do that?”
Well, we got turned right back around and had a fun night in Syracuse, NY. And I got put on some persona non grata “asshole” list. Now every time I travel through Canada I get pulled aside at every customs and security point. Last few times I was traveling with only clothes and toiletries. They still send me for a more thorough search. The people searching my bags are more perplexed than I am about why I get sent to them. Last time I went, it was with a diabetic friend. He breezed through security with a bag full of liquid and needles, and I got some dude in blue gloves rooting through my undies with a really confused look on his face.
If I ever got caught digging in Canada, I’d go to their version of Guantanamo and you’d never hear from me again. I’d spend my final years toiling in a syrup mine somewhere under the oppressive whips of the Mounties.
Then I made a mistake. I said, “you think I’m defecting TO Canada? Why would anyone do that?”
Well, we got turned right back around and had a fun night in Syracuse, NY. And I got put on some persona non grata “asshole” list. Now every time I travel through Canada I get pulled aside at every customs and security point. Last few times I was traveling with only clothes and toiletries. They still send me for a more thorough search. The people searching my bags are more perplexed than I am about why I get sent to them. Last time I went, it was with a diabetic friend. He breezed through security with a bag full of liquid and needles, and I got some dude in blue gloves rooting through my undies with a really confused look on his face.
If I ever got caught digging in Canada, I’d go to their version of Guantanamo and you’d never hear from me again. I’d spend my final years toiling in a syrup mine somewhere under the oppressive whips of the Mounties.
Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:15 am
Frisco
Man, I don’t think I could ever dig in Canada. Back in the 90s I was in the process of moving to Vermont. I was young and poor and I had my stuff in my car and was staying with a friend in NY along the way. We decided to take a trip up to Toronto for a few days. Well, we get to the border and they give us all sorts of shit. They say we don’t have enough money to spend a weekend there (we did). Then they decided that we were defecting, because I had a couple boxes in the back seat.
Then I made a mistake. I said, “you think I’m defecting TO Canada? Why would anyone do that?”
Well, we got turned right back around and had a fun night in Syracuse, NY. And I got put on some persona non grata “asshole” list. Now every time I travel through Canada I get pulled aside at every customs and security point. Last few times I was traveling with only clothes and toiletries. They still send me for a more thorough search. The people searching my bags are more perplexed than I am about why I get sent to them. Last time I went, it was with a diabetic friend. He breezed through security with a bag full of liquid and needles, and I got some dude in blue gloves rooting through my undies with a really confused look on his face.
If I ever got caught digging in Canada, I’d go to their version of Guantanamo and you’d never hear from me again. I’d spend my final years toiling in a syrup mine somewhere under the oppressive whips of the Mounties.
Very soorry aboot that. When I was legal to drink in Canada and but not in Michigan, we only ever got hassled by the US side, despite my insistance that everyone in the car say “United States” when asked the citizenship question (I always felt that was more professional).
Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:07 pm
Unknown
Unknown:
And I got put on some persona non grata “asshole” list
Canada has a blacklist? You and Gary Bettman must be the only two people on it.
Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:41 pm
Us and the people responsible for the closing ceremonies of the 2010 Winter Olympics.
Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:09 am
decibalnyc
I’ve used a GPR in lake park many times, Now the GPR I used was the Noggin Smart Cart,
what frequency?
was it the 500mhz? because that is the frequency we would need for finding a casque, lower would be too shallow and higher would be too deep.
Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:52 pm
decibalnyc
Dave,
I’ve used a GPR in lake park many times, AP and I even did a mock casque burial to try and see what a casque would look like 2.5 feet underground on the GPR. It’s actually not that easy. The GPR will locate ground disturbance and show air pockets but the system measures in density. The only way to get an accurate picture is to scan a large square area and extrapolate the data in a computer program. With Lake Park, the ground is all landfill, so there are tons of large rocks and bricks and other debris which give off false readings. Also it only works on flat surfaces so if you are trying to scan a hill, you will get false readings as well. Now the GPR I used was the Noggin Smart Cart, there have been significant advances in the technology since then, but even so, if I were you I would try to find an expert in reading the data before renting a GPR. It took me 3 expeditions with the unit to just understand what the data meant. I’m not saying it isn’t helpful, but the verse, when followed correctly, should lead you to a 2’x2′ spot to dig. Unfortunately because of the time passing you really have to do a lot of historical research to help retrace the steps BP was trying to lay out in the 80’s.
Getting permission is the best method, but be warned, when I went that route, the permit I was granted by the parks dept. stated that the casque, if found, would be the property of the park. I don’t know that all cities would be like that, but Lake Park is defiantly of the opinion that the casque belongs to the city, not the finder. That gives you a peek into Milwaukee corruption and politics.
Thanks for the information…sounds like a low freqency would be best for 3 to 4 feet. I agree reseaching the history and getting someone to interpret the data helps. GSSI has some GPR machines and videos on how to interpret the data and soil type.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:25 pm
Does anyone else find it interesting that BP was able to bury all twelve casques without attracting too much attention or legal difficulty?
Yet today we have several potential solutions that are on hold because people do not have or are waiting for permission to dig.
Now, before I get flamed, I’m not suggesting that people go out and start digging without consultation or permission.
I just find it interesting that they were all buried without permission, yet without trouble; but extracting them, not so.
Is it because we are more cautious and legalistic today, or was Byron reckless, or perhaps lucky?
Don’t think this thread will advance “the cause”, just wanted to see what people thought of this contrast.
Yet today we have several potential solutions that are on hold because people do not have or are waiting for permission to dig.
Now, before I get flamed, I’m not suggesting that people go out and start digging without consultation or permission.
I just find it interesting that they were all buried without permission, yet without trouble; but extracting them, not so.
Is it because we are more cautious and legalistic today, or was Byron reckless, or perhaps lucky?
Don’t think this thread will advance “the cause”, just wanted to see what people thought of this contrast.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:26 pm
Don’t you mean 12 casques?
Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:39 pm
decibalnyc
Don’t you mean 12 casques?
Yes. What a weird mistake. Original post edited. Thanks!
Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:54 pm
yes it was much easier to dig back then,
post 9/11 everybody got much stricter on things like this.
This same thing has effected past times like letterboxing and geocaching
post 9/11 everybody got much stricter on things like this.
This same thing has effected past times like letterboxing and geocaching
Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:47 pm
I’ve been able to dig in some pretty sketchy places. Hell, I slept on the park at Boston, I hitchhiked from Armstrong Park to Lowes, and a few of us dug the shit out of the Watergate. You just gotta let ’em drop and do it. Everybody’s always pussy footin”. Digging in GGP is easy as f**k, as with Milwaukee, and Charleston just needs good timing, which is coming up. IN FOY is really the only toughie.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:06 pm
I’d be careful in New Orleans, too. That police force is corrupt. Last night I pulled a piece of metal off a soil probe to demonstrate something to a friend (New Orleans native), and he almost flipped because he said it looked like I was holding a gun. I got a wife and kids–I’m not about to get shot because the police think my shovel is a weapon. Something like 20 people were killed in NOLA in the 4 days I was there.
Incidentally, the shovel I had planned on using if the area was slightly less populated was
actually
a weapon–a sharpened Soviet entrenching shovel. I did not remove it from my backpack.
And I walked to that Lowe’s from the quarter. Quite a sketchy hike.
Incidentally, the shovel I had planned on using if the area was slightly less populated was
actually
a weapon–a sharpened Soviet entrenching shovel. I did not remove it from my backpack.
And I walked to that Lowe’s from the quarter. Quite a sketchy hike.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:10 pm
Frisco
Incidentally, the shovel I had planned on using…
… pussy footin’.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:12 pm
Easy to say without knowing where I went to dig.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:23 pm
Frisco
Easy to say without knowing where I went to dig.
… big balls.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:29 pm
Because they’re Hollywood scripts. If someone tried that Tom Cruise stunt crap in real life, they’d die in the opening credits.
Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:37 pm
Frisco
Because they’re Hollywood scripts. If someone tried that Tom Cruise stunt crap in real life, they’d die in the opening credits.
Psh… In real life you just got to limber up a bit first, and then let ’em drop.