What is perplexing, although I don’t know how much stock to place on it, are the Japanese hints that claims that any clue would give away the puzzle for Verse 3. Is it really that simple?
If so, the word coliseum in the verse heavily narrows down the reasonable search areas.
Fenway Park is probably the most recognizable and the original Boston Garden would have been another major attraction. To me, any other “coliseum” in and around Boston pales in comparison to those two examples.
Well spoke sir.
Especially with metal walls, green tower of lights…BP seemed to use baseball as a recurring theme …why not use America’s most beloved ballpark!?
With that being said…GO SOX!!!!!!

gManTexas

What is perplexing, although I don’t know how much stock to place on it, are the Japanese hints that claims that any clue would give away the puzzle for Verse 3. Is it really that simple?

BINGO

If so, the word coliseum in the verse heavily narrows down the reasonable search areas.
Fenway Park is probably the most recognizable and the original Boston Garden would have been another major attraction. To me, any other “coliseum” in and around Boston pales in comparison to those two examples.

strike13

Especially with metal walls, green tower of lights…BP seemed to use baseball as a recurring theme …why not use America’s most beloved ballpark!?
With that being said…GO SOX!!!!!!

Crazy to think he was not a Yankees fan, although I think he had a soft spot for the Dodgers, being from Brooklyn and all.

I kinda like the Freedom Trail idea, but I dont want to change my views about Charlesgate, which remains a hopeful answer to this mystery. So much still seems uncertain to me.

Fenix

Didn’t most of the Brooklyn Dodger fans become transition to Mets fans due to the deep Yankee hate?

That’s a great question for the locals.

Stopped by Mary Dyer today. Turns out you can get to that side of the statehouse, it’s not really a lawn over there. A walkway. Was trying really hard to make something from this, even looking at the surrounding buildings. I took these 3 pics
https://imgur.com/a/wDv3LkH

I stopped by there today as well. Here are a few other photos that I took of things in the general area. Strike’s photos show everything the statue has to offer.
A lamp on the wall directly behind the Dyer statue. (I believe there are 3 on that wall.)
https://i.imgur.com/QSX5bUF.jpg
A bird statue at the back courtyard of the State House. (Also behind the Dyer statue)
https://i.imgur.com/WtEXo3k.jpg
Just a picture for comedic purposes. This entrance is located to the left of the Dyer statue. (There have been numerous unsuccessful protests trying to have the name changed.) Mr. Hooker was an actual General…
https://i.imgur.com/SeRnLEk.jpg
In all, I dont see any earth shattering image matches in the area. I would be much more excited if the words on the statue were an exact match to the verse. Or, if we could find a legeater level image match somewhere close by.

Glossiphoniidae

Any thoughts from the veterans on this idea?

Hi. Sorry for jumping in. I only discovered this puzzle a couple of weeks ago, but have been obsessed with it ever since! What’s really strange (for me) is to come across this the same week that it’s being solved (I believe). Have read most of these huge threads, I’m quite convinced that 421 has the right spot! But I have a few things to add to help make the solution more satisfying. I know everyone here’s been hung up on the BPL as the starting point. I think that’s complete bunk. T is not North of X there, there’s no visual reference to the library in the picture, no one would think to look there pre-Google, yet people are clinging to this. Here’s how I think the puzzle was actually meant to be solved (leading to 421’s spot):
A 1982 person could easily recognize the Hatch Shell design in the lower right of the picture. Confirmed by the 18/12 reference in the poem which denotes both the Longfellow Bridge AND the 1812 Overture – both immediately associated with the Hatch Shell. Also confirmed by the depiction of the curved building on the right side of the main circle in the image, and the fact that the whole top of the image represents the circle around the Hatch Shell, interrupted by the woman’s hair and body where the grass in front of the Hatch Shell interrupts its circle. (All pointed out by others on this Forum). So you can get to the Hatch Shell in 1983 without Google. NOW let’s start looking for T & X.
This job was made harder over the years because the Trimbloid X was moved a few years ago. But the Trimbloid X *is* your Xenophon! Anyone looking for anything relevant near the Hatch Shell that starts with an X couldn’t miss it! It was basically where the Esplanade meets Clarendon St. But where is our Thudycides? Where’s something that starts with a T that’s north of the Trimbloid X statue? Xieish almost has it! He pointed out the T-shaped dock that’s right near the Hatch Shell, that’s the same off-center shape as the falcon’s perch in the picture. But that T isn’t quite north of the X. But look what happens if you place the falcon from the picture *on* that perch. I’m having trouble uploading a picture I just made, but if the bird from the image is sitting on that T, his beak and/or the bubble he’s about to pop sits pretty much directly north of the X! The damn bird is your Thucydides!
Now, got 5 steps in “the area of his direction”. Guess which direction our Thucydides is pointing? West towards 421’s spot. In the area of his direction means towards the West along the little island of land that’s parallel to the esplanade. Take 5 steps means 5 bridges to the end of the island, bringing you to 421’s Storrow Memorial Compass! Simple. T is North of X. The bird from the image has a role in the solution. And 5 steps makes sense without having to do Google Maps gymnastics.
The green tower of lights is probably the pole right by the Storrow Memorial Compass, to make you actually stop and think about the Compass an realize that it matches the image. Near those who pass the Colliseum confirms you’re in the right place near a road that passes near Fenway. Now, you put your back to the stairs and get confused because you can’t face the water. But wait, the letters are all here to see. Let me look for the *letters* that say water, which happen to be right in front of me!
The reason the verse has to place you on the correct side of the compass is so that you know what orientation to use for the calendar when numbering the benches. From this spot, you’re facing the benches, so you know the calendar starts from 1 at your upper left (versus facing the benches from the street). Now you’re looking at the 30 days of April/benches, and pick the 18th one, which is right in the *Middle* of a *Section* of benches, and also sounds like Middlesex (Boston’s county). BTW the 02115 or 02216 zip code is quite small, but covers this area! Now we have the rest of 421’s story. The upside-down box picture matches the bench and slab. Lit by lamplight is the light coming out of the box, shining directly on the prize – represented by the one different-looking stone in the woman’s “Emerald Necklace”.
The reason you have to “Feel at Home” is so that you have a reference point to know where 12:00 is. You sit down, and 12:00 is right in front of you. The casque is directly in front of the bench. Where your feet would be if you’re sitting in the center of the bench. Not at the spot to the side where the bench itself would be at 12:00. I also don’t understand In Truth Be Free. But I think it’s irrelevant like the last lines of some other verses. Best I can come up with is an anagram for Burn Their Feet (that lamplight looks hot at the spot under your feet).
But that really doesn’t seem right.
I’m convinced enough to go digging, but this is really 421’s find. 421: Are you still in Boston? Are you looking for help digging? Someone to dig on your behalf? If 421 gives the go-ahead, anyone want to join me on Saturday??
-Len

I don’t know if this is useful or relevant, but the names Thucydides and Xenophon were also carved in the same set panels as Socrates, Pindar, and Apelles in Cleveland.
For that matter, Socrates, Pindar, and Apelles are also carved on the facade of BPL. What are the odds?

Unknown

Unknown:
In looking at the 1981, 1983, and 1985 Boston White Pages, I see no listing for Coliseum or Colisseum.  There were no nightclubs listed with a similar name in the 3 May 1983 Boston Phoenix club listings.
Might you have been thinking about the Saugus nightclub the Palace?
If you have any more information on the club, we might be able to use it to search this club out.

In December fox and abqram conjectured that that Coliseum was a night club. I sent a query to the BPL asking them to look up any clubs or dance joints by that name in Boston that existed in the early 1980s and received the following reply:
So if anyone can brainstorm on possibilities, I can send a second request, but I would like to do it sooner rather than later.

This may be common knowledge and largely dismissed already, but I thought that I would share some info that I wasn’t aware of until the other day. In the past, people have mentioned the sidewalk plaque in front of the first public school in Boston. Since it has the alphabet around the border, people have linked it to the verse lines “all the letters are here to see.”
Not great, not terrible and also not possible. The plaque was installed in 1983 and actually has the date on it about a foot from the bottom on the left side. Not earth shattering information, but something that I personally didn’t realize until recently and thought that I should share.

Sad day for those who pass the coliseum…

hey all,
havent been around much do to working and school, but ive been trying to drop in on occasion to see if anyone has found anything new.  anywho, when i was at the Public Library, i never saw the word Thucydides carved anywhere.  In fact, the library area was one of the worst places i looked.  It didnt have much at all.  anyway, my best friend from home just got accepted into Med School at Tufts in boston, so now i have a reason to head back there.  i’ll probably go sometime in october.  and i think i have a great place to look:  the public gardens.  people can actually rent these plots out, and plant anything they want.  i had driven by it and not even given it a second thought, but then it dawned on me, that maybe Byron Priess just bought one of the plots back in 1982, buried it there.  its all kind of condensed but theres definately plenty of room for it and maybe also a marker in the plot, possibly something thats in the P for Boston.  so anyway, im pulling my book back out, im on the case yet again, and hopefully this will be my last trip out there for this frickin thing.

Hey loph,
I’ve never actually seen Thucydides’ name there either.  My “confirmation” source on it was the reference desk at the Boston Public Library.
I had to be in Boston for work a couple of months ago (prior to learning about this hunt), and saw all the names in the window panels.
With our subject being a Greek historian, I figured he was a good candidate for inclusion, so on 7/16 I called the library.  The Reference Librarian asked me to call him back at 2:00, stating that he would go check on one of his breaks.  When I called back, he said that Thucydides was there.
I may have erred in using the term “front”.  That’s the face of the building that I originally saw, and I may have carried it over into my description.

Here is a nice link to some “virtual tours” of the Copley Square/Boston area.
No close-up of the fountain, though.
http://www.panoramamagazine.com/virtual%20tours/
AP

FB, try to get a pic showing a close up of the copley fountain (looking for the scar and dot)…
Look at:
http://virb.com/teevio/photos/2177
and compare with the uper right shape of the image 11…

That fountain is already near the top of my list, eljayo.
I can’t remember, but didn’t someone say the fountain was installed after
The Secret
was written?

Unknown

Unknown:
what does “Move the puzzle along?” mean, – obviously digging up another casque is the only guage of that

Really?
If there are people in St. Louis, or Louisville, or Philadelphia looking for a casque, and you show them that there is not, and has never been a casque in their city, wouldn’t you agree that the puzzle has moved along for those searchers? Similarly, if you are using Verse 7 to search for a casque in New Orleans, or Verse 10 to search for a casque in San Francisco, or Verse 5 to search for a casque in Charleston, and you are shown that you are using the wrong verse, wouldn’t those also be examples of “moving the puzzle along”? The puzzle is moving along, and we are, IMO, getting closer to understanding how it was supposed to work. This despite the fact that we have not dug up a casque in over 14 years. Solving for Step 5 is one of the best gauges to be sure, but it is far from the only one.
There is a casque in Boston. You will need Image 11 and Verse 3, and a whole lot of other information to find it. There, Back on topic.

Hey all a couple of things I wanted to clarify regarding the age of significant statues in Boston related to the hunt that I got wrong in an earlier post and I’ve seen confused a few times
John Copley statue in Copley square was erected in 2002
https://friendsofcopleysquare.org/john-singleton/
. So the theories that say start at the BPL and go in the “area of his direction” being the direction copley is facing (north) are out.
The letters from Horace Walople that mention thucidydyes/xenophon/boston/newyork are actually to
Sir
Horace Mann (edit: mann not man) (a British diplomat who resided interestingly in Florence Italy (italian connection ya’ll), not Horace Mann the famous boston public educator (who has a statue at Boston State House). So that connection seems out, unless Preiss was using the similar names purposefully or made a misconnection himself.

youre wrong on both accounts.
if you dont see the connection bw man and mann…youre doomed for failure.
also, why would you need a statue when you have the square named after him?
not saying this is how i use the clues…just sayin…

JoshCornell

youre wrong on both accounts.
if you dont see the connection bw man and mann…youre doomed for failure.
also, why would you need a statue when you have the square named after him?
not saying this is how i use the clues…just sayin…

For someone who hasn’t proved himself right yet, you show an amazing ability to call other people wrong.

ive more than proven myself lol.
y’all are just ignorant. (not all, but many)
if you guys want to let ego get in the way that’s fine. its your problem not mine.
if you dont want to listen to me, thats also fine. but it would be an err on your part.
that i can assure you.
the fact that you dont want me to see the bigger picture, doesnt mean i dont

you need to reflect on that comment, and see that i told the person telling other people they are wrong, they are wrong…therefore i was actually saying the other observations were valid.

JoshCornell

ive more than proven myself lol.
y’all are just ignorant. (not all, but many)
if you guys want to let ego get in the way that’s fine. its your problem not mine.
if you dont want to listen to me, thats also fine. but it would be an err on your part.
that i can assure you.
the fact that you dont want me to see the bigger picture, doesnt mean i dont

I’ve listened to you, in person. You did not prove anything. You did not even know the age of the fountain in Copley or that the floors of the BPL courtyard were made of wood in the past. You referred to Michigan for some unknown reason, for a Boston puzzle. No one is facing in the direction of MICHIGAN to look for the Boston casque. Please stop polluting our threads for Boston with this madness when we are actually, for the most part, trying to work together.
Actually, you have proved a few things, but nothing in relation to this puzzle.

Unknown

Unknown:
For someone who hasn’t proved himself right yet

Honest question: What would it take before someone is considered “right”? Is it a casque in hand and only a casque in hand, or can it be something (an idea, a methodology, and observation, etc.) that most reasonable people can agree with, and then use to help all of us move the puzzle along? IOW, is the statement above another example of the Step 5 Fallacy, or is there more substance to it than that?

strike13

I’ve listened to you, in person. You did not prove anything. You did not even know the age of the fountain in Copley or that the floors of the BPL courtyard were made of wood in the past. You referred to Michigan for some unknown reason, for a Boston puzzle. No one is facing in the direction of MICHIGAN to look for the Boston casque. Please stop polluting our threads for Boston with this madness when we are actually, for the most part, trying to work together.
Actually, you have proved a few things, but nothing in relation to this puzzle.

you talked to me for like 5 mins.

i dont recall ever mentioning michigan lol…i didnt say face the direction of michigan…you either misheard or misremember…i apologize i wasnt more clear. but you shouldnt think you know what i think or know. also, as bingo and i discussed after you left…neither of those matter
i knew the place was renovated, i just didnt know the statue wasnt there when bp was there (also doesnt matter, as it is very clearly referenced…and i was right about the ref…)…and…did you see how i found the statue the other day?
in a totally different state? also, if you would have listened to what i did tell you…you would have made the potential connection yourself. concerning michigan, dont think i said anything about it…i did say to look at a person, however. which is the obvious answer. in the most primary sense.

if you do choose to meet me, you should probably listen more carefully than miss strike.

the sf puzzle has a strawberry and rose, with moons, and a full moon in june is known as the strawberry and/or rose moon

you know what’s funny? I told someone about it(the moons) and colors in a PM just recently, and that person replied me he have no comment and good luck

Euhirudinea

Honest question: What would it take before someone is considered “right”? Is it a casque in hand and only a casque in hand, or can it be something (an idea, a methodology, and observation, etc.) that most reasonable people can agree with, and then use to help all of us move the puzzle along? IOW, is the statement above another example of the Step 5 Fallacy, or is there more substance to it than that?

Good question
that would be the person has a methodology that demonstratably leads to a casque.
So yes without digging up a casque and key (or proven-part thereof) the person has a theory,
Some theories are really good, some are really obvious, some are very convoluted, but they are all still theories, and deserve the same scrutiny .
You ask what about “(an idea, a methodology, and observation, etc.) that most reasonable people can agree with, and then use to help all of us move the puzzle along?”
which comes back to the basic question of what does “Move the puzzle along?” mean, – obviously digging up another casque is the only guage of that.

Unknown

Unknown:
that would be the person has a methodology that demonstratably leads to a casque.

…more than one casque, for me.

Baseball players, back in the day, used to talk about Fenway Park as playing in a metal box (think Green Monster). Am I the only one who sees Erin’s box as a Fenway Park night game with the stadium lights?

Glossiphoniidae

… I have actually even looked into that being the “K” in “BROOKLINE” on the Storrow Memorial, a quartered circular tablet with the “<" being split off the "K" from the quartering
I posted just the verse solve, because I think we can find many confirmers in the image – and likely some that were unintended – and argue a lot about them too, which doesn’t seem to be constructive. See, who knows what the “<" is?? We won't even know for certain once the casque is in hand (just like the Chicago and Cleveland solves - we still argue about the visual confirmers).

Here’s a thought… I think the first few lines of the verse solidly take us the Dartmouth St. Landing. You’ll notice that in the above post, I pointed out the “K” from the Storrow Memorial, which is at the far east end of the esplanade. Considering the exactness of “portal” in the image in relation to the Storrow Memorial, maybe “all the letters are here to see” references the 130-year-old optometry college (read: Snellen chart) on the corner of “Hereford” Street and Storrow/Back. Then, if you had your back at the Memorial’s steps, you would be facing “Water” on the Memorial.
After all, I can only confirm the poem was on the sundial, but not that the sundial was there in 1980 or that BP knew about it if it wasn’t.
Interestingly, if you draw an “X” across the image’s circular window to evenly quarter it, you can rotate it to produce the cut-off “<" and it squarely meets with particular lines. It's similar to this, but rotate the "X" and not the image.
I might post some more on this later, but the back side of Storrow Memorial matches a quarter of the window after the axises are set as described. Including that bastard circle. It’s the quarter with “Water” on it.

I think it’s great. Im sure you’ve seen it but there’s also a leg from the bench on the upside down slab in the image. Didn’t see any mention of it though. And what about “twelfth hour”? With the way you have it oriented I was thinking maybe you dig at the south end of the bench 18 slab which would be the 12th hour if you think of the slab as a clock. Just a thought.

Deuce

I think it’s great. Im sure you’ve seen it but there’s also a leg from the bench on the upside down slab in the image. Didn’t see any mention of it though.

Deuce

And what about “twelfth hour”? With the way you have it oriented I was thinking maybe you dig at the south end of the bench 18 slab which would be the 12th hour if you think of the slab as a clock. Just a thought.

Absolutely! What do you think I have been talking about!?!?! It is sitting in the exact position on the slab in proportion! Do you see what is on the far side of it (i.e., behind the 18 bench)… AN 8! There is also a 28 in the sleeve (the 2 of the 42 is also a 28).Though, I mention none of this because I might just be stretching. Either way, I think this our slab and bench.
You come up on the bench from the side, the way the image shows the bench from the side. The arrow points just to the left of the front bench leg straight down. To see the bench oriented like in the picture, you are above 28, below 18, and between the two.
12 o’clock is NOON on the 18th day, that is right in the middle of the 18th day. Or, right in front of you (i.e., “Watch out! Slab at 12 o’clock!).
Both the image and the verse seem to have pinpoint accuracy as to where to dig using this theory.

So no hints for Verse 3, because any hint would give it away?
That makes this seem like an easier puzzle…

Feel at home
is the Victory Gardens

Unknown

Unknown:
Feel at home is the Victory Gardens

In your world, of course.

Nice stuff Insatiable.
Trying to take this out of Copley Square was definitley taking us in the wrong direction.  With your observations, you have saved us all from further chasing our own tails.  I have seen some similarities but didn’t put it together like you did.
One problem.  The Square is not the same as it was in 1982.  From Wikipedia:
In 1983 to address public dissatisfaction with the lack of greenery and sightlines, the Copley Square Centennial Committee was formed. A series of public meetings and seminars established design criteria for a new park. A national design competition was held in 1989 and the current design was selected. In 1991 the new Copley Square Park was dedicated.
All of this had been discussed here before, but now we know the casque was buried there.  Well, some of us believe it’s was.
In the middle section
Near those
Who pass the coliseum
With metal walls
Face the water
Your back to the stairs
Feel at home
Impossible to know what these lines mean without knowing the changes that were made.  That is the next challange.

I didn’t realize the park was not there back then, or atleast it wasn’t the same park. Hopefully the casque is somewhere close to a building or some other structure that was untouched during the parks construction. Would you happen to know if the water was there prior to the new park? That would make a huge differnce. The only other water that I know of around there would be the fountain in the library courtyard.

I believe the fountain was there but don’t know if it was changed.  We know the buildings are the same.  Oh wait, in 83′ they redid the Old South Church, but pretty much brought it back to life with no changes.  When you go there, look at these lines carefully.
In the middle section  -may mean the park itself, enclosed by streets
Near those – always wanted it to mean near a road or path where people pass by, car or foot.
Who pass the coliseum -building around the Square?
With metal walls
Face the water- could be the fountain, and could mean from anywhere in the park near those who pass.
Your back to the stairs
Feel at home -relax, sit down on a bench? Or something that reads HOME and you can touch it?
It’s a daunting task.  Good luck.  I would like to hear any and all interpretations of this verse as it may be used at Copley Square.  It may help us all.

bclews, where are you?

Forget my last post, I was going in the wrong direction. Today I found what is on the front of the girls dress in image 11 and also what I believe is the circle behind her and a few of the smaller designs on her dress. I’m going there next Saturday and will post photos.

insatiable

Forget my last post, I was going in the wrong direction. Today I found what is on the front of the girls dress in image 11 and also what I believe is the circle behind her and a few of the smaller designs on her dress. I’m going there next Saturday and will post photos.

Please post them on the Image11 thread.  BTW, any other hint besides going in the wrong direction?

Hi Boogieman, I didn’t mean for “going in the wrong direction” to be a hint, but I guess it could be one….when you leave the BPL instead of going heading west toward the Ma. Historical Society stay in Copley Square. I posted a pic of what I think could be a match for the dress in image 11….have a look and let me know what you think. I have more photos of other things that match the image and the verse I’m trying to get the clearest pics I can and get all the info together before I post it. I could be completely wrong about all of it, but it feels right to me.

The green copper cupola in the background is refered to as a lantern (a green tower of lights)

The designs around and behind the window in this picture ALSO reflect the designs on the girl’s dress and some of the elements of Image 11.
The ‘checkerboard’ and the stripes around the curve….
Nice work, Melissa!

shecrab

The designs around and behind the window in this picture ALSO reflect the designs on the girl’s dress and some of the elements of Image 11.
The ‘checkerboard’ and the stripes around the curve….
Nice work, Melissa!

I think so too. Also, inside of Trinity Church and inside of the Old South Church there are other things that look like the window in image 11. Those 2 churches are diagonal from each other in Copley Square. One corner is the library, one is Trinity and one is Old South Church……I don’t remember what is on the 4th corner there.

“Eighteenth day
Twelefth hour”
April 18th at midnight, Paul Revere was not the only one to ride at midnight, William Dawes did also. William Dawes was a member of the Old South Church in Copley Square.
I believe that verse is pointing to him not Paul Revere.

There were
three
, actually—William Dawes, Paul Revere and William Prescott.
I don’t think it matters which one of them the reference is about, however. It clinches the location, and that’s the most important thing.

shecrab

There were
three
, actually—William Dawes, Paul Revere and William Prescott.
I don’t think it matters which one of them the reference is about, however. It clinches the location, and that’s the most important thing.

I think what has always clinched this general area to me was “In truth be free”
becuase this is the one of the most common historical stories that have been
mistaught as general knowledge due to the poem.
With this knowledge of the true story versus the poetic one, also know that
‘Longfellow Bridge” is not too far away, spanning the Charles.

Another thing: isn’t Post Office Square a short distance from Copley Square?
Post office=letters (all the letters.)

Question-
What if the circular window is not a window at all, but a floor,
with a circular pool, with the water reflecting the sky above?
It is not a black sky, but a light blue one, and only the north star
and the moon are reflected.

Unknown

Unknown:
So far the pattern is that the images have all had something that is an exact representation of something at the casque site.  In Chicago, it was the water tower, and in Cleveland, it was a composite of real-life elements in the cultural gardens — all nearly perfectly represented in the image, enough so that you could overlay them if you needed.  The only other pic we can be 100% sure on so far is the one for Milwaukee, because it has an exact silhouette of Milwaukee City Hall.  (
http://galenfrysinger.us/1/us/beastie15.jpg
)  Three times is a pattern.  I think it’s safe to say that we need to see something exactly represented in the pic to call it a clue for sure.

Actually, I agree wholeheartedly here.
I think you’re right…there has been SOMETHING in every image. You’re absolutely right. Hmm…so what’s your bet for the item (or items) in the Boston pic, since every single image we’ve found is really really close, but none are smack on?
I like the idea of the window being a pool, or pond. That makes some sense.

They used to call intelectuals “letters” so “all the letters” could very well be “all the intelectuals” …..at a library, school etc.

So can we try little Italy next?
Melissa, to answer your question about the birds all over the place…that’s a common architectural element in any Federal-type architecture, which Boston is full of.
It’s EAGLES however, not FALCONS that you see all over. Not the same bird. That bird is either a Hawk or a Falcon. I’m going with Falcon, because the obvious and most simple answer is that Boston has a Black Falcon street and a Black Falcon sea terminal. I don’t know why we need to find any further id’ers for it. It points us to the wharf, the wharf (from a distance) looks like the edges of the hair on the girl in the image, the verse says “face the water…”    I mean, why look further if it fits in all those ways?
As for ‘all the letters’ I will go along with the idea of the muses being associated with letters (litera) but–I think there are better explanations.

Unknown

Unknown:
It’s EAGLES however, not FALCONS that you see all over. Not the same bird. That bird is either a Hawk or a Falcon. I’m going with Falcon, because the obvious and most simple answer is that Boston has a Black Falcon street and a Black Falcon sea terminal. I don’t know why we need to find any further id’ers for it. It points us to the wharf, the wharf (from a distance) looks like the edges of the hair on the girl in the image, the verse says “face the water…”    I mean, why look further if it fits in all those ways?

Earlier there was some discussion over the proper identification of the bird, and I thought it was agreed that it was a Cooper’s hawk. And why do you think the edges of her hair resemble the wharf? I can’t see a resemblance. Her hair looks like it might be *a* port shoreline with wharves and such, but can you point to something specific that pinpoints it as Boston’s waterfront?

I don’t understand why the hair thing is in dispute at all…it looks like the wharfs on a map of Boston. No, it doesn’t match exactly–or rather I can’t GET it to match exactly because I do not have the software that will do an overlay on my home ‘puter. But why does it
need
to match exactly? Is there any doubt this is Boston? Not really. It looks very much like the wharfs–square edged, choppy, etc. It doesn’t mean that it needs to be an exact fit.
As for the bird–it can be either Cooper’s Hawk, or a Black Falcon, or Merlin, or Kestrel. Many birds resemble the profile of the painting bird. In fact, the bird in the painting really does not resemble a
real
bird at all–it’s wing feathers are impossibly long for a raptor, as is the tail.  It’s got a hawk or falcon (as opposed to eagle) head, but that’s really the only thing you can say for certain about it.

Unknown

Unknown:
I don’t understand why the hair thing is in dispute at all…it looks like the wharfs on a map of Boston. No, it doesn’t match exactly–or rather I can’t GET it to match exactly because I do not have the software that will do an overlay on my home ‘puter. But why does it need  to match exactly? Is there any doubt this is Boston?

Well yeah…
There
should
be doubt until the casque is found.
So far the pattern is that the images have all had something that is an exact representation of something at the casque site.  In Chicago, it was the water tower, and in Cleveland, it was a composite of real-life elements in the cultural gardens — all nearly perfectly represented in the image, enough so that you
could
overlay them if you needed.  The only other pic we can be 100% sure on so far is the one for Milwaukee, because it has an
exact
silhouette of Milwaukee City Hall.  (
http://galenfrysinger.us/1/us/beastie15.jpg
)  Three times is a pattern.  I think it’s safe to say that we need to see something
exactly
represented in the pic to call it a clue for sure.
So far, we haven’t seen anything that’s a perfect representation of anything in this pic.  The elements from the church are pretty good, but nothing is a knockout.  The checkerboard arch isn’t a terribly uncommon design feature, and the squiggle pattern doesn’t match up exactly.  But you might call these close enough — if there was something else to go on.
I’m not saying it’s not Boston, but you’ve got to be careful not to get ahead of yourself here.  You don’t want to fall into the trap of confirmation bias.

Also, if we may be referring to the Hatch Shell, dont forget about the letters (musical notes) ABCDEFG.  Well, then the clue should have read “All the letters are here to hear.” (not see). hmm

Green tower of lights?  This is a green dayboard in Boston Harbor.
http://users.rcn.com/dhkaye/Boston%20Ha … BEACON.jpg

The is a huge blue beacon of light across the country this morning and that is a big NY GIANTS FOOTBALL HELMET!!!!!!!

Hi, I’m very new to this and still catching up on the whole thing, but I do live in Boston and would be happy to go look for things if there’s a definite plan.
I know the Pru or Hancock are the likely candidates for the “green tower of lights,” but there’s one other building that immediately came to my mind.  On the MIT campus across the river from Boston, there is a building known as the Green Building (officially “Building 54”).  It is a fairly ugly building, with a noticeable orb on the top that is an astronomy lookout.  See a pic of it here:
http://pthbb.org/offal/54/
It has also been the site of several notable “hacks” (MIT speak for pranks), in which people sneak into the rooms and turn on the lights to make a shape.  For instance, they made an Oscar in 1998 to celebrate Good Will Hunting (set at MIT):
http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1998 … reenspeak/
I’m going to try to catch up as best I can with this hunt.  I look forward to working with any of you as a ground troop!

Welcome aboard AmeliaElf.  It’s always good to see contributions from new members, and in your case you carry the added benefit of being in a city almost certainly holds a casque.
As I’m sure you’ll discover in studying the boards, the question of which is the Boston Image is still considered open.  I personally favor Image 11, for reasons outlined in that thread and in the “what has been found” thread.  Others consider Image 3 to be a stronger candidate.
To selfishly tie into your mention of MIT…
On July 16th I posted an idea in this thread that starts at the Public Library and ends on the Esplanade, looking north across the Charles, roughly towards MIT and another “school”.
Freedom Trail and the Back Bay Fens are the other areas that have had recent mention.
Anyway, like I said, welcome aboard and happy hunting.
Pine Tree

Unknown

Unknown:
He is saying to go north

Er, no he is
not
saying GO NORTH. That’s what I was explaining earlier. He is saying take five steps IN HIS DIRECTION.  If you identify “his direction” as North, then he is saying take five steps IN THE NORTH.
There’s a difference between GO TO THE NORTH (proceed in a northerly direction,) and take five “steps” (whatever steps are) while IN THE NORTH.
Big
difference.

adding to my recent musings, I wanted to explore the birthstone connection.
Peridot is August.
august (adj.)
“inspiring reverence and admiration, solemnly grand,” 1660s, from Latin augustus “venerable, majestic, magnificent, noble,” perhaps originally “consecrated by the augurs, with favorable auguries”
I wonder if Preiss gave a bit of thought to the word august =
revere
nce. At a glance, that seems like a simple way to jump to something to do with Paul Revere.

erexere

adding to my recent musings, I wanted to explore the birthstone connection.
Peridot is August.
august (adj.)
“inspiring reverence and admiration, solemnly grand,” 1660s, from Latin augustus “venerable, majestic, magnificent, noble,” perhaps originally “consecrated by the augurs, with favorable auguries”
I wonder if Preiss gave a bit of thought to the word august =
revere
nce. At a glance, that seems like a simple way to jump to something to do with Paul Revere.

I really like how your mind works, but unless Preiss was a super genius, I wonder if he got this philosophical with The Secret.

I further explored the notion that Thucydides and Xenophon, were chosen by Preiss to represent the histories of Ancient Italy. I thought they shared some idea in common which mattered to how the fair folk approached their plan to hide the casque. I wondered if the 3 hour run of Phillipides from Marathon (north) to Athens (south), bringing a message about the Persian invaders, was being compared to Paul Revere’s Ride, bringing word of the impending attack of the British.
The older Thucydides resided far to the North in Thrace at the time Xenophon was born in Athens. They were both alive at the same time as the reign of King Artaxerxes I. Apparently the prefix “arta-” means truth. I wonder if “in truth, be free” is also a nod to being free or not enslaved by the invading Persian armies.

erexere

I further explored the notion that Thucydides and Xenophon, were chosen by Preiss to represent the histories of Ancient Italy. I thought they shared some idea in common which mattered to how the fair folk approached their plan to hide the casque. I wondered if the 3 hour run of Phillipides from Marathon (north) to Athens (south), bringing a message about the Persian invaders, was being compared to Paul Revere’s Ride, bringing word of the impending attack of the British.
The older Thucydides resided far to the North in Thrace at the time Xenophon was born in Athens. They were both alive at the same time as the reign of King Artaxerxes I. Apparently the prefix “arta-” means truth. I wonder if “in truth, be free” is also a nod to being free or not enslaved by the invading Persian armies.

That’s a fascinating theory. One that warrants merit.

Unknown

Unknown:
Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry arch
Of the North Church tower as a signal light,—
One, if by land, and two, if by sea;

Unknown

Unknown:
Silently rowed to the Charlestown shore,
Just as the moon rose over the bay,
Where swinging wide at her moorings lay
The
Somerset
, British man-of-war;

A most general sense or gentle nudge may be gathered LotJ lines: Peridot of old Italy: Antique, and olivine, and rich.
antique: something that existed long ago
olivine: something like an olive tree. Could be some symbolism based on the foundation myth for Athens, or its use as a gift for abundance or glory, or the symbol for peace.
rich: in foods it would mean contains a lot fats or oils; or simply a wealth standard.
I think taxation at the center of the conflict with the British is really a good link to the Boston puzzle. Perhaps that’s why Preiss uses the word “rich” to describe the jewel. Another track might involve the name of Paul Revere, since “reverence” is something which olives where used since ancient times the oils anoint or circular wreaths to glorify people of significance.
The Landlord’s Tale by Longfellow, source for the ride of Paul Revere may be strongly associated for the lines “Feel at home”, “Eighteenth day”, “Twelfth hour”, and even “Lit by lamplight”, since one often rents a home from a landlord, the poem contains descriptive events at midnight of the eighteenth of April and the passing of a message by lamplight,
The poem also highlights the name shared by the building next to the Charlesgate park area,
There doesn’t seem to be an easy to identify large iconic structure in image 11. Maybe it’s the triangle of the citgo sign. Maybe it’s some building fitting the architecture drawn on the box. Whatever the case, I think the Longfellow poem gives us the best link limiting us to a space in the city.

Groovy.  I look forward to it.  But we’re definitely going to need to narrow things down or get some new ideas, because even a location like Copley Square is way too big to search around in.  There’s something we’re missing.  I just hope it isn’t something in one of the pictures, since it isn’t clear exactly which picture is the Boston pic.
I took an ancient Greek lit class last semester (I’m a senior at Harvard), so I’m going to email my professor to see if he knows of any place in Boston that would have to do with Thucydides and Xenophon.  I’ll let you know if he has any ideas!

I believe there are four inspirations at work here, compounding Image 11 with this verse: Greek, Celtic, The Landlord’s Tale and The Wizard of Oz.
If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
Boston Public Library, intended to catch the eye of someone reading the names of historical figures upon it’s walls, Thucydides and Xenophon included.  Both known to be Greek historians.  The “area of his direction” is history itself which in terms of direction is “looking back” at past events.  Some blocks north of BPL is
Back
street, follow that five large blocks west and it puts you in the vicinity of E. Charlesgate.  A curved line on the upper-right of the oculus in image 11 shows a true fit with that curve of the Bowker Overpass ramp.  Continue south to see other indications that lead you to a spot just past Commonwealth and to a park space at the foot of the Somerset (an old Hotel, sharing the same name as the great British man-o-war described in the Landlord’s Tale, the poem of Paul Revere’s Midnight Ride by Longfellow.
A green tower of lights
In the middle section
Near those
Who pass the coliseum
With metal walls
Face the water
Your back to the stairs
These lines seem to describe the area next to the overpass including some directions for locating the casque.  Which water to face and which stairs is still uncertain.
Feel at home
These three words have caused me to cover a range of possibilities.  I just came up with the idea that this is a “There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home, …” Dorothy of the Wizard of Oz idea here.
I’ve been “feeling at home” so much that I considered looking at this Dorothy and her silver shoes by W.W. Denslow, illustrator of the original Wizard of Oz book.  Doesn’t it have a similar feel to the woman in image 11, wearing a dress, standing in the center, large blue circle behind her?  I ask myself how I might use this image association as a clue and so far one idea is sticking with me: a cyclone.  The short black “cyclone” fence that surrounds my particular area of interest near the overpass.
Also consider that this line instructs us to gather the sense of being at home plate where one would -if they could- hit a “Homer” (score 1 more point for a Greek reference).  See hidden in the image, in the area of the woman’s right wrist of what looks like a home plate and a single leg leading off.  At a spot just opposite the front gates of the Somerset there’s a cement light post with a white globe on top.  Just to the north of that is (was) a steel box (purpose unknown) that you could easily stand upon if you first step over the short, waist high, black cyclone fence.  Awhile back I ventured a theory about things related to “tea”, because this is Boston and “tea” could be a homonym for “T-ball” a children’s variant on Baseball.  This globe light on a post much resembles such a T-ball configuration.
All the letters
Are here to see
These two lines also work with the above image.  In Fenway Park, when a home run is hit, it is celebrated with the expression “See It Go!”, since the large iconic CITGO sign sits just beyond the left side of the outfield.  “C”-IT-GO.  I believe this is a clue that we must be able to stand in a spot where we can see ALL the letters to this sign in the distance.  It turns out, this is possible from this particular spot.  Consider that this is now a perfect scenario for pretending to hit a home run, “See It Go!” sign included.
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
These words help reference the Paul Revere poem and correspond nicely to reference the Somerset. (See poem, The Landlord’s Tale)
Lit by lamplight
In truth, be free.
And we do have a lamp in the above image to consider.  “In truth, be free” may aim at the implication that there is a “closed” area, an enclosure whereby opening or disclosure (truth), one would be free.
The nearest actual stairs to this spot standing upon the box which is no longer there are those just south in a circular mini-amphitheater.  The nearest water is obvious.  I would consider standing with my back to those stairs and facing the water at a point along a line centered on that spot on the box with a view of the CITGO sign.  Here’s a map overhead I’ve constructed but I’m still not seeing a good fit.  The brown triangle is part of the cyclone fence enclosed area which allows for line of sight on the CITGO sign.  The pink diamond is the main gate to the Somerset.  The green diamond is the tall green post.  The yellow diamond is the nearest stairs.  The blue line is the waters edge.

Hey, remember this theory…
If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
Starting at Thucydides and taking five steps in the direction of Xenophon, you end up at
Shaw
The Hatch Shell was designed by
Richard J Shaw
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Memorial_Shell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Shaw
This is it. I’m shaw this is it.

That’s not a bad idea…but, you have a much more famous Shaw around the Boston area.
http://www.nps.gov/boaf/historyculture/shaw.htm

quite true Mr. Blight.  Welcome to The Secret from ATT coach.  I kind of share in your pain as well……I was THERE when the Bee was removed from the tree but seem to have been left out as a co-finder.
I really dont think these verses will be jumbled up like that….but than again, who knows?  The only thing that seems obvious about this verse is that it is in Boston.  I am still leaning towards the BPL coming into play somehow.

coach6060, I feel your pain. I drove to South Carolina with some friends to reach into tree holes looking for Pook, to no avail.
I had not considered switching a verse around, since that was not necessary for the Cleveland or Chicago casques. If it’s true, then… wow. Our friends Art and Science are certainly lit by lamplight in front of the library.

Introducing myself to this hunt after a tough heartbreak at Newaygo Park, searching for Pook in the Treasure Trove hunt.  First let me commend everyone for the great efforts on this board.  I love to watch puzzling minds work.  Because nothing has been written here in a while I would like to offer the following.  This verse, more than all the others looks like it could be switched around.  For example, If Thucydides is In the middle section Near those Lit by Lamplight, Take five steps North of Xenophon etc…..  I know this would be just plain terrible and not in keeping with the other verses, so I’m curious as to whether it is worth pursuing??  Any thoughts?

I’ve been reading the discussion on image 3 and alot of people are leaning toward Boston as well.  As far as linking verse 3 with image 3, the Granery burial ground is adjacent to Park Street Chuch, on Park and Tremont.  This area bumps up to Boston Common.  Could the treasure be buried just outside the burial ground in the commons?
ABQRAM

shecrab

Well, yes, that’s what I meant. At some distance….

That would have to be 5 steps in the area of His direction.

How very true!!!

Unknown

Unknown:
Who pass the coliseum

Unknown

Unknown:
With metal walls

Unknown

Unknown:
Who
pass

Hey all I wanted to point out a few possible verse matches for Harvard Stadium
The Harvard Stadium is modeled after the Roman Coliseum. This has been brought up before and speaks for itself
The Harvard stadium pioneered the use of reinforcing concrete with steel rebar.
The Harvard Stadium is also famous for one more thing – pioneering the use of the forward pass in American football. Football was running-only and was too dangerous at the time and they were considering widening the regulation field size to reduce collisions, but the recently built Harvard Stadium was wasn’t big enough and because of that the forward
pass
was introduced to football.
The fact that the verse uses the words pass, coliseum, and metal walls and all of those things are integral to the history of Harvard Stadium is just struck me as a little more than coincidental.

dosethree

Hey all I wanted to point out a few possible verse matches for Harvard Stadium
The Harvard Stadium is modeled after the Roman Coliseum. This has been brought up before and speaks for itself
The Harvard stadium pioneered the use of reinforcing concrete with steel rebar.
The Harvard Stadium is also famous for one more thing – pioneering the use of the forward pass in American football. Football was running-only and was too dangerous at the time and they were considering widening the regulation field size to reduce collisions, but the recently built Harvard Stadium was wasn’t big enough and because of that the forward
pass
was introduced to football.
The fact that the verse uses the words pass, coliseum, and metal walls and all of those things are integral to the history of Harvard Stadium is just struck me as a little more than coincidental.

If you’re gonna go with Harvard Stadium, I think that “near those who pass” could also refer to Memorial Drive.

strike13

If you’re gonna go with Harvard Stadium, I think that “near those who pass” could also refer to Memorial Drive.

I have been thinking about what if “With metal walls” has nothing to do with the previous line. And it could pair with “Face the water’. Now that changes the whole meaning. Could just mean a fence. Just a thought.

regulus

but then what P?

ahhh, now that is the 64 thousand dollar question….and unfortunately, I am still befuddled with this one.

Unknown

Unknown:
In truth
that which you call freedom is the strongest of these chains, though its links glitter in the sun and dazzle your eyes. And what is it but fragments of your own self you would discard that you may
become free
?

There’s a plaque dedicated to
Kahlil Gibran
in Copley Square near the library.
Not the words on the plaque, but:

If the Somerset building represents the warship, then the object  to best represent the full moon should be one of those big white globes in the park facing the Somerset.  I think it makes sense for “all the letters are here to see [it go]” to mean seeing all the letters oof the CITGO sign.  “Feel at home” makes sense along with Fenway Parks “see it go” nickname for CITGO if the same spot offers a T-ball setup, in which case I’m looking at standing on top of the box and having the sam kind of feel as one would when hitting a homerun from homeplate in Fenway and seeing the CITGO sign.
I really like the Landlord’s Tale as the historical focus since its partly true but also contains well known inaccuracies.  The rowboat was actually eastward of the warship and the moon rising in the east (southeast enough that Revere saw the moon over the bay but the Somerset saw the moon rise over the city of Boston, this from a 1982 calculation of events so its not a matter to base our conclusions on here with this casque, although it was well known that the rowboat was between the ship and rising moon for all pr actical purposes.
I think the truth be free line does imply some knowledge of the inaccuracies and allows Preiss to point out his playfullness or freedom with the facts as this is merely a mock scenario of Revere’s events and working best he can with what’s provided.  A warship (building).  The Moon (a globe lamp).  A mast looking like a prison bar (the green tower light).  In his direction would seem to apply first to either Thucy or Xenophon, but if they are essentially in place of a “historian”, that wouod apply to Longfellow, or the subject of his poem, Paul Revere.  The wording of the Thucy/Xenophon lines really seems to indicate that absolute direction isn’t a concern because this is a case of things relative to a situation.  I don’t want this to come off sounding overly complicated.  I just think theres a couple ways to look at the problem but only one way works.
Id like to try starting at the far corner where the overpass meets Commonwealth and E. Charlesgate.  Hop the short fence. Standing in the grassy corner walk five steps (15 feet) roughly south to a spot where the first globe lamp and green tower align.  That’s just about to the cement base with the metal walled box.  Dig?
Okay, more reconsiderations.  Thucydides is a historian of an earlier age than Xenophon.  If Leif (a representation of an older history) is north of Revere (history not as old) then take five steps in the area of his direction (with respect to the Somerset, Revere rowed south to cross the bay.

Sure… bleachers could be steps. they are typically in the outfield, however.

The park yard baseball diamonds have bleachers behind the fencing along bith sides of the homeplate.  Team seating?
I’m trying to determine if pretending you’re hitting a ball to the CITGO sign while standing on the metal box and imagining your back to the stairs might be bleachers and his direction being the direction of running to first base.  That would be like moving in a 45 degree to the northwest…not a lot of room for that idea to play out though..

Could bleachers be considered steps?  Are bleachers typically located behind the home plate?

I dont think anyone has mentioned this here yet, the Italian sculptor Louis St. Gaudens created the Progress of Railroading in DC’s Union Station. An inscription there: THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE.

I found the position of the small bright star fits a position for overlay with respect to the curve and square that fit overpass segment and park area opposite the Charlesgate building.  Follow a line from that point a short distance puts us right in the viscinity of Somerset and Mothers Rest.

shecrab

I don’t think
all
the solutions have a “trail” to follow, and I think thinking that way will be the most sure way to gt us sidetracked. Of course, they don’t all HAVE to have a trail–but some might.

At this point, I agree with you there is just not enough evidence to say,  verse  wise,
however image wise both cleveland and chicago contain imagery of two places, several miles apart that take you to the treasure ground
that are connected by a straight route. I find evidence the same thing in SF and milwaukee and possibly N.O.
That of course still doesn’t mean it applies 100%
Yet I am a firm believer in there being 1 method (however general) for solution for all the puzzles.  I may be wrong, but it seems to me we make a whole lot more tangible progress when we compare ideas to the known solutions, then we do when we make up far-fetched unique solutions.

…sure, I agree with you there.

Choice

You were so easy to expose. Truth hearts. Live with it.

A REAL NUT CASE THAT THE ADMINS NEED TO ADDRESS…UNLESS THEY HAVE EMPLOYED HIM..

Not a fan of the bubbles or the bird in general.
The theory that I like to ponder is image pointers. Similar to the fingers in the SF image potentially pointing to important street locations. Which is very similar fenix’s theory for the Montreal image that the fingers point to the legeater and the street that is located on. Fairy pointers come in twos?
Boston and Roanoke images have bubbles. It has been said in the past that one bubble points to the bird’s beak and the other points to the AA symbol, which on its side is a clear N. Beak+N=Beacon Street. I’ll admit, this is a tough one for me to completely agree with, but it helps define a street and gives meaning to that damn bird.
I’m not familiar enough with the Roanoke image to know what those bubbles may represent or point out, but it seems like a possible method to greatly narrow down a search area or path to look. Do the other images have similar pointers, possibly in pairs?
Certainly not a well polished theory worthy of its own pdf file, but it’s something that makes me rethink how we are supposed to do these puzzles.

Actually that makes perfect sense. That AA sign also creates a delta with A, similar to the delta at Beacon and Arlington.

Why make things complicated? Midnight run April 18, 1775

That was the Boston Garden, replaced by the Fleet Center in 1995.

.

Unknown

Unknown:
Since the spacing of streets in grid plans varies so widely among cities, or even within cities, it is difficult to generalize about the size of a city block. However, as reference points, the standard square blocks of Portland, Houston, and Sacramento are 260 by 260 feet (79 m × 79 m), 330 by 330 feet (100 m × 100 m), and 410 by 410 feet (120 m × 120 m) respectively (to the street center line). Oblong blocks range considerably in width and length. The standard block in Manhattan is about 264 by 900 feet (80 m × 270 m); and in some U.S. cities standard blocks are as wide as 660 feet (200 m). The blocks in Edmonton, Canada are 560 by 330 feet (170 m × 100 m). The blocks in central Melbourne, Australia, are 660 by 330 feet (200 m × 100 m), formed by splitting the square blocks in an original grid with a narrow street down the middle.

Emphatic claims have been made to say Boyle isn’t 5 blocks from BPL.  This online measuring stick says it is 5 blocks.
The distance of blocks in Boston are variable, but many fit the 200m length.  There’s indeed a variety of different standards for a block length, 200m being among them (see Melbourne, Australia):
Wikipedia “city block”:
5 blocks = 1000m.  Taking Thucydides north of Xenophon to mean “exile”, since Thucydides moved to Thrace to avoid execution for his role in the Battle of Amphipolis (BTW, I wonder if it’s important that Amphipolis means amphi- “two or double”, and -polis “city”.  When Athens surrendered to the Spartans 20 years later, Thucydides was allowed to return home but supposedly was attacked and killed on the return.  A decade later, Xenophon’s actions and political disagreements with Athens led to his exile and is reported to have died in Thrace.  Exile is at least one of the commonalities to these two men.  Exile is also a theme in the life of John Boyle O’Reilly who was sent from Ireland to a prison colony in Australia from which he escaped to Boston in America.
In my picture above, I suggest there’s only a short distance travel up onto the overpass and down the off-ramp to Commonwealth and Charlesgate.  In the past solutions with Cleveland and Chicago, there’s a working theory that a descriptor can be applied to each “turn” one makes from what is considered the beginning of a path from the furthest point from the casque.  The John Boyle O’Reilly monument is a straight shot from the BPL and at that point where one might consider taking a turn it seems reasonable to head around the bend to the overpass.  The triangle of the Citgo sign can be glimpsed as you start around the bend.  Up on the overpass you might see the Charlesgate Hotel site as the sign to take the offramp since the top of the woman’s head matches the curved top of it’s facades.  Certainly that feature isn’t unique to that building, but it is the firstmost feature that fits this particular journey.  Working with the least random constraints is by far more logical than so many random assorted theories floating around here.  At the bottom of the offramp there are several possibilities.  The next line is the green tower of lights and the illustration has in it’s lower right corner the hint of the Charlesgate ballustrades along sections of Commonwealth Ave.  Turning does take you around to the double semi-circle areas including the green light pole and light globes.  I see a complete solve despite the inexactness of visual clues.  The correlation of clues is what’s more important because it requires a thoughtful approach.  If we assume Preiss and Palencar made no attempt to be sneaky, then the pursuit of visual exactness is an excellent approach.  In the case of Boston, I think they were sneaky, so we have our work cut out for us.  I see a reveresed “S” pattern in the dress and then a partial “S” being mirroed below that.  When I see the Somerset Hotel’s gate with two S’s, although they don’t match the exact font or layout with one S above and partial S below, the thoughtful approach confirms that an S is an S and a reversed S is a reversed S even if the axis has been changed from vertical to horizontal.

Looking at this puzzle the CSI style:
• If Thucydides is North of Xenophon: T and X are both crosses, so here we get the North/South vector. Old North church is a good bet for north marker and either Old South or Trinity church as south marker (near each-other). Roughly draw a N/S line. Also a clue to look for a Greek related item.
• For the east/west vector we go to the image marker. The bird/orb/perch is a good match for Hatch monument shell. So draw a line perpendicular to N/S line. The intersecting point is the area of interest; Public Garden — wrought iron fencing.
• A green tower of lights, not looking for a green-colored tower but a tower in a park or garden.
• All the letters — Are here to see. Here we get the name of the structure. To see, on display. The key is “Are here”. In the period olde English that would be “Art here”. Sounds like Ether and all the letters in Ether are present.
• Samareitēs, is the origin of good Samaritan.
• Take five steps from the monument northward, facing water (lake). Note that the North/South line is not true N/S. Similar to the North Star in the image. Continue that angle in the image and you get to the square in the circle around her head. That’s the cask marker.
• Her hair seems to be floating in water. I don’t know if the Venus fountain in the garden was there in the 80’s but she may be modeled after Maiden Mist.

When did “CSI style” include picking random churches, monuments, attractions and directions? Wouldn’t a good CSI investigator collect actual evidence and present it in a clear and convincing way?
Beyond reasonable doubt usually applies to treasure hunts like this one. Just a thought.
If the Ether monument is your area of interest, just come out and say it. There are plenty of locals that would be happy to go out and gather actual information (or even share some that we already have) for/with you. The forced backdoor bullshit story just isn’t necessary.

I thought I was clear saying it. Not for you perhaps. What backdoor BS?

Never mind

Re: the statue of
David Ignatius Walsh
, the motto
Non Sibi Sed Patriae
on his statue means “Not for self, but for country”, and is associated with the Navy. Might explain why the globe is all sea and no land.

WhiteRabbit, could you get pictures like that of the guild steps??  they were built in 1917, which would fit the numbers in the oval……….and guess what!!  he was ambassador to russia.  i remember thinking this picture seemed nordic to me………………
http://books.google.com/books?id=TX7S2v … ss&f=false
curtis guild was ambassador to russia
i’m thinking that feather is just a quill for a writer now, like longfellow (bridge, or statue (sailors monument), oliver wendell holmes (feel at home)
holme’s path
guild steps:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/489 … otostream/
i like how the next picture of wallyg’s, the founder’s memorial has “wee”  and “small”
really getting confusing now with the “ether” monument and the image 2 lion, and the shaw memorial with the angel:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_photos/4521200534/
http://ctmonuments.net/2010/05/robert-g … al-boston/

(I got those photos from Google…haven’t been able to get anyone to wander round there with a camera yet…)

David again. I like this one now, with his tome, and the bird.
Statue by Coletti (cf Folletti).
Navy slogan -> “Intrepidly nautical”.
Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five;
Hardly a man is now alive
Who remembers that famous day and year
David’s birthday was 11th Nov, Remembrance Day.

the steps leading down from the shaw monument are dedicated to ww i soldiers and sailors and the two elm trees are over 200 years old, and one supposedly planted by john hancock (all the
letters
are there to see)
http://books.google.com/books?id=TX7S2v … ss&f=false

the steps leading down from the shaw monument are dedicated to ww i soldiers and sailors and the two elm trees are over 200 years old, and one supposedly planted by john hancock (all the letters are there to see)
http://books.google.com/books?id=TX7S2v … ss&f=false

WhiteRabbit

Re: the statue of
David Ignatius Walsh
, the motto
Non Sibi Sed Patriae
on his statue means “Not for self, but for country”, and is associated with the Navy. Might explain why the globe is all sea and no land.

This has a nice tie-in with Revere.
“
Non sibi
. Not for self. Paul Revere forged this motto into Phillips Academy’s original seal 230 years ago.”
http://www.andover.edu/about/Pages/default.aspx
It’s right opposite the Hatch Shell. Here it is from the back.
We have Hatch Shell north for hair, Walsh statue south for box.

thing is whiterabbit?  shouldn’t there be something “italian”  about tobin?  or is this area considered “little italy”
the only thing i’ve seen that says “italian” is st. francis of assisi at the old north church, which is close to paul revere mall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/videoqueen/3963850769/
are the commons and public gardens or that area considered part of little italy?
still think “lit by lamplight is beacon street”……..close to the guild steps

Landmark A
North of Landmark B
Stand at A
Take 5 steps towards B
Turn (there is a latched gate just before the green tower of lights)
You are now in the middle
Next to a sidewalk
and an overpass
The fence is metal and forms a wall
Facing the water
walk down (if this were stairs, you’d be walking DOWN if you’re back was on the stair side)
Stand just inside the “front door”
The globe lights look like letter the letter I
I = eye, eyes see.
Paul Revere’s Midnight Ride in the Landlord’s Tale holds a major clue about the Somerset (ship, but in this location it’s the building across the street).
A = north light, B = south light nearest, F = fence opening, G = green tower
Who’s going to dig this up?

animal painter

I have been doing a bit more research on verse 3 which says:
All the letters
Are here to see
There is a business in Boston’s North End on Prince St. that BP could
have been referring to.
On Prince Street, just off Hanover St., near North Square (close to..
Mamma Maria’s Restaurant and Paul Revere’s house) is a small newspaper printing shop,
(which has been in business for 110 years) called “The Post Gazette”/ North End Press (printer)
No doubt, there used to be a lot of letters here…Printer’s type.
AP

I had thought the same thing…On Boston’s North End…

animal painter

I have been doing a bit more research on verse 3 which says:
All the
letters
Are here to see
There is a business in Boston’s North End on Prince St. that BP could
have been referring to.
On Prince Street, just off Hanover St., near North Square (close to..
Mamma Maria’s Restaurant and Paul Revere’s house) is a small newspaper printing shop,
(which has been in business for 110 years) called “The Post Gazette”/ North End Press (printer)
No doubt, there used to be a lot of
letters
here…Printer’s type.
AP

I had thought the same thing…On Boston’s North End…

or how about something having to do with the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog ?

I’m wondering about the Thuc/Xeno bit.  Perhaps they provide the context for us to think ‘Pelopponesian’ which has the same number and start and end letters of ‘Pennsylvanian’ or ‘Philadelphian’.

I’m wondering about the Thuc/Xeno bit.  Perhaps they provide the context for us to think ‘Pelopponesian’ which has the same number and start and end
letters
of ‘Pennsylvanian’ or ‘Philadelphian’.

@FB: “R here to C” wouldn’t be
all
the letters.
What about a post office?

@FB: “R here to C” wouldn’t be
all
the
letters
.
What about a post office?

shecrab

What about a post office?

…or just a post, maybe.
Re: the characters on the circle:
The lat and long for Boston are 42 / 71. The 42 appears on the bracelet. Maybe the two markings shown here on the arch to the left could be 17 for a reversed 71. This group of four numbers might then suggest the date 1719.
This is when the
Boston Gazette
was founded.
“The paper’s masthead vignette, produced by Paul Revere, shows a seated Britannia with Liberty cap on staff, freeing a bird from a cage.”
In truth, be free
(The ‘escaping’ fairy’s resemblance to the character on the next page – image 12 – representing the Statue of Liberty might also tie in.)
Re: posts, maybe the bird has some clues.
With metal walls
…or the Arthur Fiedler footbridge…?
Fiedler
was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
“For the past 30+ years, Tchaikovsky’s
1812
Overture has been performed during countless United States’ Independence Day celebrations, due largely in part to an exhilarating performance by the Boston Pops in 1974, conducted by Arthur Fiedler.”
I’d like to try and find someone to wander round the Esplanade with a camera. Don’t suppose you have any helpful contacts in Boston Tzalos…?  😉

Deuce, yes, there has been some conjecture on those alphabet ordered garden paths in the fens linked with the Mothers Rest site across the way.  No concrete purpose has been brought to light of using that site as a point of reference.  At best it suggests this is either a general area near the casque site or it’s contains a specific resource for locating the exact spot of the casque.
I’ve spent some time researching some facts on John Boyle O’Reilly’s book Moondyne and Thucydides’ role related to Athens.  At first I confused Moondyne Joe with a fictional character based on John himself, but today I learned he was a real person, however he was fictionalized in the book, based on a bushranger John learned about while in exhile at Freemantle prison.
My idea about the first word ‘If’ still nags me as a clue about Edmond Dante’s exile to the Chateau d’If.  It’s a huge guess, but not without reason, educated by the relationship Thucydides had with Athens.  Thucydides was exiled from Athens for 20 years.  He was tried for his role in the loss of Amphipolis.  That name alone gives me cause to wonder, since the word Amphi-theater is very similar.  “polis” means city. “amphi” means “on two sides”.  “amphitheater” means “spectators all around a stage”.  Most circular or semicircular areas where one can stand in the center are called “amphitheater” as an architectural reference.  I find those circular areas in front of the Somerset to meet the criteria for being amphitheaters.  Back to Thucydides, his place of exile was the Thracian land to the north of Athens where he held a large estate and gold mines.  “Xenophon of Athens” is a perfect fit for referencing Thucydides in exile to the north.  The lines of verse may as well read as follows:  If Thucydides is north of Xenophon in Athens, then Thucydides was in exile in Thrace.

fox

I even like the Christmas tree idea since it is much more towerlike than an elevated roadway.  And if some of you don’t buy into a Christmas tree being towerlike…remember, we found Pinus nigra.

Fox,
As much as I like the
Pinus Nigra
, too, unless the tree were growing in the ground,
BP would probably not use it as an all-year-round clue.
In Milwaukee, BP seemed to be very “step-by-step” in verse 8.
Did he give clues in sequential order for the two found casques?
Or did he “jump around” as far as his clue locations went?
I’m trying to determine just what he was looking at, when he ended verse 3
with
“In truth be free”
…Was that the location marker???
AP

in the cleveland verse,
Beneath two countries    general park cultural gardens,
As the road curves          describes the road beside the garden
In a rectangular plot
Beneath the tenth stone
From right to left
Beneath the ninth row from the top            Specific steps to casque
Of the wall including small bricks
Seven steps up you can hop
From the bottom level
Socrates, Pindar, Apelles
Free speech, couplet, birch                things near the casque
To find casque’s destination
Seek the columns
For the search.                The the last 3 lines is where you start walking toward
the casque after stopping on the curving road…..

Anyone who visited Boston in the 1980’s would have been overwhelmed by the
the Elevated Central Artery….the “other Green Monster” of Boston.
This is a night shot of the Elevated Central Artery.
“A green tower of lights…in the middle section”…Near those…who pass the coliseum…with metal walls”
Here is an early photo of the Central Artery passing by the Boston Garden Arena (the coliseum) and
Mother Anna’s Restaurant…(where you “feel at home”)
which is on Hanover St…leading down the Freedom Trail .
Here are two close-ups  of the Central Artery as it passes the “Coliseum”…Fleet Center…
(which was another name for the remodeled Boston Garden Arena)…See the “metal walls”.
The Zakim Bridge in the background was built after 2000, but the Elevated Central Artery
was not torn down until after 2004.
If BP was wanting us to be “Near those that pass the coliseum with metal walls”, it would
be near the Elevated Central Artery…near the Boston Garden Arena.
The Central Artery is so tall…that it could conceivably be referred to as a “green tower”…where the multi-levels had to be lit up at night.
AP

But this isn’t pinpointing anything, either. Especially since other things in the verse already got us to Boston.

Fox,
You are probably right…But as for “those that pass the coliseum with metal walls”,
I am convinced that it is referring to the Elevated Central Artery.  According to
the maps, it does not go near Copley Square.
I am still interested in the Copp’s Hill Terrace, (the park with the multi-level stairs,
located across the road from Copp’s Hill Burial Ground.  The park was designed
by none other than our “friend” Olmstead…who seems to be ubiquitous…
popping up in every casque-location city….even Montreal (Mt. Royal).
AP

I’m not too sure about an elevated highway being referred to as a “tower”.  Roadways are known to go horizontally and not vertically like a tower would.  In my opinion, both the Hancock Tower or the Prudential Tower are better matches…I even like the Christmas tree idea since it is much more towerlike than an elevated roadway.  And if some of you don’t buy into a Christmas tree being towerlike…remember, we found Pinus nigra.

Fair enough!

So…it’s been a month or so since 421 posted what seems like the correct solution, and the board has been strangely quiet. Anyone make any progress pulling it out of the ground? I walked by the site yesterday and notice the ground had definitely been disturbed since I was there last a few weeks ago. There was a 2×2′ square of bare ground in front of the bench that used to have sparse grass on it when I looked a few weeks ago. If someone actually dug down here, it was done really neatly – well done. Not sure if it would be possible to dig down 2-3 feel and pull out a casque without having a wider-area opening than 2×2′. So not sure if the grass removal was just a probing mission. Anyway – really curious if the digger found anything? Anyone have any exciting announcements to make?

lengrano

6) 421thrasher – why the radio silence? Getting permission? I’m interested in following up on your behalf (perhaps by trying to get permission), but don’t want to without your blessing since (I believe) you solved it.
-Len

Sorry, buddy. I have been travelling non-stop for work over the past 5 weeks. I am exhausted. Additionally, I have been throwing a lot of offline effort at the Charleston image, which I hope to have permission (or at least a meeting to get permission) by the end of day. I will post a full Boston write-up this evening when I get home (9 or so PM because I have Q1 parent/teacher conferences today).
BTW – Thanks for the support! I am totally down with you or anyone digging. I just want to know when it’s been dug up and get credited with the solution. I will be continuing to dig again at that site until it’s out of the ground.

That is an interesting little find AP since I am really beginning to like the Commons.  Here is a little more info on the Pinus Nigra ‘Green Tower’ or Austrian Pine:
http://hcs.osu.edu/plantlist/description/pi_nigra.html
Unfortunately, but it may not really matter, the tree used in the Commons every Christmas does not seem to be a Pinus Nigra.
http://boston.about.com/od/historylandm … astree.htm
It is quite interesting that the tree comes from Canada though…

New Boston theory…
If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
Five traffic junctions north of the BPL onto Beacon St.
A green tower of lights
In the middle section
Near those
Who pass the coliseum
With metal walls
Turn right and go east three blocks until you reach the metal walls of the Fiedler footbridge.
Those who pass the coliseum are the marathon runners who go down Beacon St. The green tower of lights is the tower of traffic lights seen here with the green “Beacon” sign.
Face the water
At this point you can see the “Angel of the Waters” fountain in Boston Public Garden.
Your back to the stairs
Feel at home
Behind you are the stairs of a private residence with wrought iron railings.
All the letters
Are here to see
The inscription on the statue.
It dates from 1924.
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
Lit by lamplight
Revere -> Boston.
Also possibly 18th letter is “R”, Day is “D”, 12th hour is “XII”, all visible in the inscription. The statue has a bunch of lamps near it.
In truth, be free.
The fairy flying out of the box, representing the statue. Also a possible quote from “Ode on Washington’s Birthday” – there’s a statue of Washington in the park a short distance south.
(I sometimes wonder if the beginnings of BP’s trails are obscurely connected with their endings. This one starts at Copley Square and ends at a statue represented in the image by what looks like a detail adapted from Copley’s Red Cross Knight. My New Orleans theory starts at St Louis Cathedral and ends at the residence of one of its architects. Milwaukee starts at the German club with its grand lion staircase and ends at a lion bridge.)

WhiteRabbit

(I sometimes wonder if the beginnings of BP’s trails are obscurely connected with their endings. This one starts at Copley Square and ends at a statue represented in the image by what looks like a detail adapted from Copley’s Red Cross Knight. My New Orleans theory starts at St Louis Cathedral and ends at the residence of one of its architects. Milwaukee starts at the German club with its grand lion staircase and ends at a lion bridge.)

Thats an interesting theory, apply it to Chicago and Cleveland and see if you get a hit.

wk nice, i think 421 only had a day there, so probly resting now, Xieish, and renner are there
viewtopic.php?p=128632#p128632

Damnit, I was around all day on Saturday. Did Renner meet you. How’d it go??

Hah, I just found a 360 panoramic view from the bottom of the steps and you can turn round and see the Storrow memorial and a nice lamp post. I am using classic Google maps. Not seen that photo before. Is it new?
http://goo.gl/maps/pFC4R
Where did 421 disappear to?
(9016)

Yo… I’m back. I had a great time in Boston, but had to sneak the trip in between extensive travelling for work. I’ll do a write-up soon. I just got back from Salt Lake City (I visited the Temple and Smith statue – cool stuff). I was also in Phoenix yesterday… hot as hell. Glad to be back. I head to Chicago this weekend and am staying at… the Congress Hotel

Does anyone know if there was a fountain in Copley Sq. before the
last renovation?…any photos of pre-construction?
AP
(No matter how I try to “get away” from Copley Sq., it keeps
drawing me back…)

animal painter

Does anyone know if there was a fountain in Copley Sq. before the
last renovation?…any photos of pre-construction?
AP
(No matter how I try to “get away” from Copley Sq., it keeps
drawing me back…)

Keep in mind, that in #1 from your map
(staring at the frieze)
taking five steps brings you into the Library.

animal painter

Does anyone know if there was a fountain in Copley Sq. before the
last renovation?…any photos of pre-construction?
AP
(No matter how I try to “get away” from Copley Sq., it keeps
drawing me back…)

Yes, there was….it was smaller,and round. There is a picture on the Image 11 thread.

Verse 3
If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
A green tower of lights
In the middle section
Near those
Who pass the coliseum
With metal walls
Face the water
Your back to the stairs
Feel at home
All the letters
Are here to see
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
Lit by lamplight
In truth, be free.
=============================
some thoughts and notes on Verse 3:
…letters lit by lamplight,
“in truth, be free”
I found lyrics from
“Ode on Washington’s birthday” By Mrs. Dr. Macgowan.
“Dedicated to the Ladies’ Relief Association, for the opening of their Fair, February 22d, 1864.”
1) I have not yet found WHERE this fair took place.
2) I’m thinking that the letters could be engraved at a location:
-a) on the site of the fair
-b) on a Washington memorial
-c) something to do with the lyricist
3) or the phrase has nothing to do with these lyrics:
Burst the fetters of oppression,
Let our land
in truth be free
,
And no longer Slavery’s curse
Blast the land of Liberty.
On to victory! brothers, on!
Shout the name of Washington.
Another poem
“Freedom”, a long poem with a section
“The Spirit Voice; or Liberty Call to the Disfranchised” (sic)
NEWYORK, JULY20, 1841
The captive in his hut, with watchful ear,
Awaits the sweet triumphant songs to hear,
That shall proclaim the glorious jubilee
When crippled thousands shall
in truth be free
.
Come! rouse ye brothers, rouse!
The rest of the verse makes me think of a clock, with “Thucydides North of Xenophon” indicating a position of hands with names on them.  Or perhaps a moving display, like a calendar, because the rest of the verse implies that the way will be lit only at a certain time on a certain day.  (Maybe the 18th day of every month, at either noon or midnight)

Focus on the last 4 lines of this V and you will see….
– nlad
– ase

I am going to have to break ranks with all of you and say that this verse and image 11 go to Ottawa. All of you can keep looking in Boston if you want but it looks to me like the casque is in the canal area of Ottawa. Under any condition I have some aquaintances in Toronto I cxan get to do some digging if I come up with something concrete.

I live not too far from Ottawa if you come up with convincing evidence…

“Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
Lit by lamplight
In truth, be free.”
(OR)
? ? ? ? ? ? ?

That diagram in my previous post is missing something essential….
In truth, be free
Wk, wasnt it you who mentioned something about truth tables once? Im thinking of p and q being a mirror of eachother like the SS on the Somerset gate….if they could be peceived somehow as $ symbols, then the following might apply,
If p is True, then NOT p is False. …or NOT p = q
If $ is Cost, then NOT $ is Free. …or the backwards S on the gate with some overlapping vertical line, from a lamp or fence post?

I was thinking of a Venn diagram where two circles overlap. Then investigate two lamplights overlapping. Also consider the light area on the globes and NOT the actual globe. That is the lamp is away from the globe.

ah. That makes good sense. One might say the area that’s guaranteed to have the most overlap would be precisely between two light sources…or the point exactly between two light sources?

This is also an interesting spot on the water side of the Dartmouth St. Sanitary House. I can’t figure how your back could be at the stairs at this point, but maybe it doesn’t matter and the stairs are just a chronologically earlier clue. You’ve got the columns, one a bit in front of the other, and the side of the building that is a square inside a square inside a square (wall – window – inner window). You might be parallel with the water, but you can still look at it from between the columns (the fountain kind of looks like the 7 in the sleeve’s “70” or the darkened L on the right-hand side of the image). Don’t know how long that fountain has been there though.

Yeah we could probably argue for years about which is the correct confirmer. We need some eyes on location and some pics.
Looking on google earth there seems to be some steps down to the waters edge in the area. That’s not to say your building stairs are wrong. I like those too. But it looks like a nice little nook to the left of the water steps if you walk down. Hard to tell from google but it looks like the steps will block anybody from seeing a person dig. Just food for thought. We need to dissect this area.
Also on top of these steps is some kind of round manhole cover type plaque or something. Wonder if it says anything.

Deuce

We need to dissect this area…
Also on top of these steps is some kind of round manhole cover type plaque or something. Wonder if it says anything.

This area is called the Dartmouth St. Landing, or the Dartmouth St. Balustrude in the planning. It’s original, but the plaque is new (1993). Believe me, I’ve dissected the area… Shovels in a few spots is all that is required. I think the visuals will make us argue forever, but the location is true, IMHO. I suppose you could get angled with the steps at your back and face the water fountain (again, no idea if it was even there).

Glossiphoniidae

This area is called the Dartmouth St. Landing, or the Dartmouth St. Balustrude in the planning. It’s original, but the plaque is new (1993). Believe me, I’ve dissected the area… Shovels in a few spots is all that is required. I think the visuals will make us argue forever, but the location is true, IMHO.

If I had time I would be there with a damn backhoe.

You know thats a damn good theory. Damn you.

I am about to share some information that will hopefully lead to a solve. Maybe not my solve, but this information will get us to one. I am confident. Use the image however you want… there are confirmers all over the place… BUT IT IS THE VERSE THAT GETS US THERE.
If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
BPL
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
North on Dartmouth St. – Dartmouth is the school that Oliver Wendell Holmes taught at. From BPL, the street goes 5 blocks until it becomes one-way in the opposite direction for another half-block. But directly in the middle in front of you is…
A green tower of lights
In the middle section
Cross over Storrow on Dartmouth and you’ll impale yourself on a green tower of lights before hitting a park. Not just any tower of green lights… our only other tower of green lights at Charlesgate. Notable in front of that is (was) Trimbloid X.
With metal walls
Face the water
Oliver Wendell Holmes
, best known for “Old Ironsides” is engraved in the column of his memorial facing the water, so face the water with him.
Your back to the stairs
Standing directly behind Holmes’ memorial, your back is to a large set of stairs (a fire escape on a tall slender home), and your back is also facing Back St.
Feel at home
You are right next to Oliver Wendell Holmes’ home.
All the letters
Are here to see
The poem on the sundial of his memorial’s column is “All here” by Oliver Wendell Holmes.
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
The poem is opposite his name on the column, so the poem is what you are facing. According to the sundial, you are also facing 12 o’clock. You are staring at the Storrow Lagoon, the home of the Boston Model Yacht Club, founded in the 1920s, which began using the Storrow lagoon in the mid-1930s and it was known as one of the most prestigious model yacht lagoons in the United States. Club racing generally opened in mid-April.
If you follow this on street view, you will have a good time. Also, you may want to find
Trimbloid X
for fun. Give me some credit if you have a good time with this info, cause I think it’s legit. You have no idea how bad I personally want to dig this one up. If I have significantly helped you solve this thing, I’d love to do the same with a shovel
IMHO, Here’s the kicker to all of it…
The image is a of the Maltese Falcon and the woman’s hand holding the treasure. The Maltese Falcon is the epitome of a MacGuffin. What could we be fixated on that has little importance, but that might reappear in the climax?
I find the great in this world is not so much where we stand, as in what direction we are moving: To reach the port of heaven, we must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it,-but we must sail, and not drift, nor lie at anchor.
– Oliver Wendell Holmes
Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch.
– Oliver Wendell Holmes

erexere

You know thats a damn good theory. Damn you.

Well thank you. According to my theory, there are only a 3 places the casque could be, and they rely on the image:
1) On the memorial side of the Dartmouth St. Comfort/Sanitary House, next to the wall with the box about chest high in the corner:
http://goo.gl/maps/Qd3Cg
-the box in the image about chest high with the tops of the column below marking the corner
2) Directly in front of the “stairs” in the middle of the the three trees:
http://goo.gl/maps/Wqzi3
-the 3 trees to the left of the memorial are aligned like the globes, and when standing in the middle of them, you are also centered with the door, two windows and copula.
3) Directly in from of the memorial at 12 o’clock at the first grass you get to across the jogging path:
http://goo.gl/maps/cwDbS
-the verse seems to specify 12 o’clock, and the half of the image’s window is the memorial.
All three places are strong contenders, but I think 1 and 2 are best. I do like how the box being held in the image indicates the spot in all three.

erexere

You know thats a damn good theory. Damn you.

A few people and a couple of shovels would have the casque unearthed in a matter of hours. That’s what scared me about posting this. But, go big or go home.

I really like this four21!! Wish we could walk the park on google.
What are the odds that there’s a crack or chip in the memorial at the same location as the image window?
Also this exact location has a view of the top of the citgo sign in the distance.
Nice work!!

Deuce

I really like this four21!! Wish we could walk the park on google.
What are the odds that there’s a crack or chip in the memorial at the same location as the image window?
Also this exact location has a view of the top of the citgo sign in the distance.
Nice work!!

Thanks, buddy. I am actually aware of quite a bit more than I posted.
I’ve been working on this one for quite a while. I have actually even looked into that being the “K” in “BROOKLINE” on the Storrow Memorial, a quartered cicular tablet with the “<" being split off the "K" from the quartering (however, the assumption that the triangle on the dress was the one that represented the CITGO sign):
I posted just the verse solve, because I think we can find many confirmers in the image – and likely some that were unintended – and argue a lot about them too, which doesn’t seem to be constructive. See, who knows what the “<" is?? We won't even know for certain once the casque is in hand (just like the Chicago and Cleveland solves - we still argue about the visual confirmers).

Well, here it is. The culmination of my recent endeavor to find a new path to the Boston casque. I think it’s legit, but you may not. It takes a really different twist at the end, but it utilizes the verse and image word for word and picture for picture. I just couldn’t stand the fact that there didn’t seem to be any exact dig spot in the lines, so I tried to use the numbers in the verse.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi12ryrm43v038m/V3I11.pdf?dl=0

I love your idea and won’t disagree. You got a lot here. And it all seems legit. However… I’ll bring up a question from a while ago. Sure we have coordinates for Boston. That gives us the city and a starting location. But pre-google, how would anyone know to start at the library? Say there was no internet. A person would go to Boston and have no idea to go to the library unless they just happened to pass it and look up to see the names on it. A lot of area and buildings in the city. It would almost be impossible to know you have to start at the library unless it’s spelled out to go there. Again I like your theory but the starting position is definitely in question. In your solution you give the first lines of the verse and just say BPL but no idea how you got there except the names which again is nearly impossible.

Deuce

I love your idea and won’t disagree. You got a lot here. And it all seems legit. However… I’ll bring up a question from a while ago. Sure we have coordinates for Boston. That gives us the city and a starting location. But pre-google, how would anyone know to start at the library? Say there was no internet. A person would go to Boston and have no idea to go to the library unless they just happened to pass it and look up to see the names on it. A lot of area and buildings in the city. It would almost be impossible to know you have to start at the library unless it’s spelled out to go there. Again I like your theory but the starting position is definitely in question. In your solution you give the first lines of the verse and just say BPL but no idea how you got there except the names which again is nearly impossible.

I appreciate the feedback and actually agree some what. Calling BPL a “starting” point was a bit wrong. This speaks more the methodology, but I think of the first couple of lines as a place that the verse gets us started at. Walking around from the point identified in the first couple of lines (think about Chicago, Cleveland, St. Augustine, Milwaukee, etc.), we can we find the clues. Sometime in front of you, sometimes behind. It all depends on how you walk. Didn’t Chicago and Cleveland do the same thing? As long as you could find your way –
NOT
to the iconic building that was quite a ways away – but to the first couple of lines, you could park your car and get out and walk around. From there you would find the text and image clues. How could you have found any of those image or verse clues in 1982? All the verses do seem to give a somewhat logical walking line to the clues, and the verse or the image doesn’t identify stuff you’d have found anywhere back then.

Thanks for going easy on me. I didn’t want to sound like an ass. I think your idea is great and believe your area is correct. Just a reasoning as to where to start is all I need. In Cleveland at least we knew to look for a rectangular area near a curving road and in Chicago we had to match up M, B, Congress, R and L which could be confusing but it worked out and helped as to where to start if you solved the riddle. Maybe those were the easier ones. I don’t know. It’s just that it seems far fetched to think someone would find the library names without guidance somehow. And there is none. Also is there anything in the image that is undoubtedly a site confirmer that doesn’t need interpretation like the solved ones?
Just a skeptic finding his way.

some imgs of compass
http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMT1 … mpass_Rose
i always thought we should start at the revere house, went there and found somethings
maybe now we should go to longfellow bridge
5 N square, scroll work
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moon street and N square street near revere house
https://goo.gl/maps/RA5Co
street view
building with scroll,revere house at N square and moon street

Glossiphoniidae
Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:44 am

I guess I always thought the solved locations relied heavily on interpretation, of both the image and verse. Although, they both did both have at least one clue that was a Polaroid. In my mind, the Storrow compass is as good as it gets. The side view of a bench on a slab ain’t that bad, but it is artistic. I don’t think the compass is artistic.