12 - New york - The Secret A Treasure Hunt

In the shadow
Of the grey giant
Find the arm that
Extends over the slender path
In summer
You’ll often hear a whirring sound
Cars abound
Although the sign
Nearby
Speaks of Indies native
The natives still speak
Of him of Hard word in 3 Vols.
Take twice as many east steps as the hour
Or more
From the middle of one branch
Of the v
Look down
And see simple roots
In rhapsodic mans soil
Or gaze north
Toward the isle of B.

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Fortress north
Cold as glass
Friendship south
Take your task
To the number
Nine eight two
Through the wood
No lion fears
In the sky the water veers
Small of scale
Step across
Perspective should not be lost
In the center of four alike
Small, split,
Three winged and slight
What we take to be
Our strongest tower of delight
Falls gently
In December night
Looking back from treasure ground
There’s the spout!
A whistle sounds.

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At the place where jewels abound
Fifteen rows down to the ground
In the middle of twenty-one
From end to end
Only three stand watch
As the sound of friends
Fills the afternoon hours
Here is a sovereign people
Who build palaces to shelter
Their heads for a night!
Gnomes admire
Fays delight
The namesakes meeting
Near this site.

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Solved – Boston, Massachusetts

If Thucydides is
North of Xenophon
Take five steps
In the area of his direction
A green tower of lights
In the middle section
Near those
Who pass the coliseum
With metal walls
Face the water
Your back to the stairs
Feel at home
All the letters
Are here to see
Eighteenth day
Twelfth hour
Lit by lamplight
In truth, be free.

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Acrostic: ITALIAN FENWAY

Solved – Cleveland, Ohio

Beneath two countries
As the road curves
In a rectangular plot
Beneath the tenth stone
From right to left
Beneath the ninth row from the top
Of the wall including small bricks
Seven steps up you can hop
From the bottom level
Socrates, Pindar, Apelles
Free speech, couplet, birch
To find casques destination
Seek the columns
For the search.

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Lane
Two twenty two
You’ll see an arc of lights
Weight and roots extended
Together saved the site
Of granite walls
Wind swept halls
Citadel in the night
A wingless bird ascended
Born of ancient dreams of flight
Beneath the only standing member
Of a forest
To the south
White stone closest
At twelve paces
From the west side
Get permission
To dig out.

Acrostic: ABBOT/CABBOT
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Of all the romance retold
Men of tales and tunes
Cruel and bold
Seen here
By eyes of old
Stand and listen to the birds
Hear the cool, clear song of water
Harken to the words:
Freedom at the birth of a century
Or May 1913
Edwin and Edwina named after him
Or on the eighth a scene
Where law defended
Between two arms extended
Below the bar that binds
Beside the long palm’s shadow
Embedded in the sand
Waits the Fair remuneration
White house close at hand.

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The first chapter
Written in water
Near men
With wind rose
Behind bending branches
And a green picket fence
At the base of a tall tree
You can still hear the honking
Shell, limestone, silver, salt
Stars move by day
Sails pass by night
Even in darkness
Like moonlight in teardrops
Over the tall grass
Years pass, rain falls.

Acrostic: SELOY
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View the three stories of Mitchell
As you walk the beating of the world
At a distance in time
From three who lived there
At a distance in space
From woman, with harpsichord
Silently playing
Step on nature
Cast in copper
Ascend the 92 steps
After climbing the grand 200
Pass the compass and reach
The foot of the culvert
Below the bridge
Walk 100 paces
Southeast over rock and soil
To the first young birch
Pass three, staying west
You’ll see a letter from the country
Of wonderstone’s hearth
On a proud, tall fifth
At its southern foot
The treasure waits.

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At stone wall’s door
The air smells sweet
Not far away
High posts are three
Education and Justice
For all to see
Sounds from the sky
Near ace is high
Running north, but first across
In jewel’s direction
Is an object
Of Twain’s attention
Giant pole
Giant step
To the place
The casque is kept.

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Pass two friends of octave
In December
Ride the man of oz
To the land near the window
There’s a road that leads to
Dark forest
Where white is in color
With two maps
After circle and square
In July and August
A path beckons
To mica and driftwood
Under that
Which may be last touched
Or first seen standing
Look north at the wing
And dig
To achieve
By dauntless and inconquerable
Determination
Your goal.

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Solved – Chicago Illinois

Where M and B are set in stone
And to Congress, R is known
L sits and left
Beyond his shoulder
Is the Fair Folks’
Treasure holder
The end of ten by thirteen Is your clue
Fence and fixture
Central too
For finding jewel casque
Seek the sounds
Of rumble
Brush and music
Hush.

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Image 12 / Verse 10: New York
Painting Name: Unknown
Painting Inspired by: Unknown
Latitude Longitude 40 / 74
Month: November
Birthstone: Topaz
Time: 11 o’clock
Flower: Chrysanthemum
Nation: Russia
Line tying verse to image: None
Litany quote: “A Topaz is the Russian prize: The royal sunstone, frozen fire.
Parks Department:
Official Contact:
Dig Status: Fill out a permit and wait for your time slot

Common Verse Matches to City

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Common Image Matches to City

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Common Maps or City Name in Image

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Japanese HInts:
Line 2: grey giant
Line 3: arm
Line 4: slender path
Line 6: whirring sound
What kind of things make this sound? You would think maybe a bug? The sound of a propeller? If you include the word cars from line 7 then it seems as though the whirring sound is referring to something that runs across the land like above land, it’s not flying and it’s not underground and that’s probably what’s making that sound. The editor says its something that needs the power of humans to run.
Line 10: Indies native
Line 12: Of him of Hard word in 3 vols
A normal person would think that it was referring to some kind of writer, but it’s difficult to find out who that is. Mr. Preiss said in order to arrive at this person, you must play with words and the start is chicken. Eventually, you will end up at the name of the person who is referred to by Him.
Line 19: rhapsodic man’s soil
Rhapsodic man is a man of epics, from the word rhapsodic, think of a famous song then you will know that the rhapsodic man is the man that made that song.
Line 21: isle of B

 

82 Comments

  1. Doug Zimmerman

    hi. have the white patches on her breast and top of shoulder on the right been investigated? inverted, quite a lot there.

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  2. Doug Zimmerman

    Hi. i found the bubbles and gem alignment. posted on twitter and reddit.Sunset Park, 41st St and 5th Ave in Brooklyn. 22 steps up the hill,the Or more are the short set of steps to the left that land at the middle of one branch of the V.the triangular bed to the right. Dig there!

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    • Joe

      Can you explain how the bubbles and gem align? I can’t figure out how you see it?

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    • Deborah

      The bubbles are not what you think they are. The coloured circles in the image are found on a map to an amusement park which is no where near NYC. There is purple, orange, light blue, teal and red. These circles lead you to the needed items so you can figure out the verse. Also, the face on image is not the Statue of Liberty itself…it is used though to make a connection to the word Liberty. The bird in the image is not the eagle that people have been connecting it with. In NYC you find Pigeons, near the shore you find seagulls. Check out the California Native Education Centre and you will see what I mean. I have given you plenty here to go on. Follow these leads and you will get there.

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    • Lani

      Thank you!

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    • New York? B

      How did this come about as listed for new york?

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  3. Gregory Gal

    If the woman’s dangling robe is meant to be Manhattan, then the gem lines right up with Governor’s Island. The droplets of water would, in that case, represent the rivers and bay.

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    • Leigh Ann

      I think that part of the image surely is meant to represent Manhattan and the islands. Possibly glass beads as mentioned in the book. All meant as a city indicator. But artistically speaking, the two beads on the right, the reflections are at different angles so is that artistically incorrect? They look like eyeballs looking in different directions to me. I think they’re meant to be both.

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      • ryan contino

        Could the eyeballs looking in two different directions possibly be a reference to the author of Masquerade?

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    • patrice

      It’s a road map. Ellis island then Statue of Liberty then Verrazzano Bridge then The “Russian Mermaid” is Staten Island, her sash is Shore Beach the Russian settlement…and that’s all u get…I solved it but there’s your hints…

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      • Tracey

        I agree. The women and gown are the outline of Staten Island.

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      • Deborah

        I have to add that the casque for this image and verse is not in the NYC area. You need to match the items in the painting to the verse not just the landscape which can look similar to other areas around the world quite easily. It is a map, but not a road map.

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      • Diana

        My grandpa is from NYC. Never been, but he told me so much I can can picture it in my mind’s eye. What I see, is what you describe

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    • Chet

      It is 100% not on Governors Island. I have already gone and checked and I spoke with a Park Ranger and they told me the park only opened to the public after 2001. Prior to that it was a military base

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  4. Doug Zimmerman

    where is JJP initials or signature in New York art?

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    • burnstyle

      Just underneath the center of the clock. Where the clock hands join together.

      It’s hard to see… but thats where they are.

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      • Deborah

        No…his initials are below and to the left of the jewel. Look for the white letters ‘JP’.

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  5. Adam

    hola ladies an germs

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  6. Jason Olsen

    Moy Importante

    Although the sign
    Nearby Speaks of Indies native is incorrect.

    Although the sign
    Nearby
    Speaks of Indies native

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  7. georgecraigmanning

    The Secret by Byron Preiss
    My theory of image 12/
    verse 10…
    By georgecraigmanning
    Immigration, Ellis Island, Lady Liberty.
    Colored dots sure do resemble the Massimo Vignelli designed NYC Subway Map of the 1970’s. The colored dots representing each train line are spot on. There are 472 stations in the NYS Subway System, but there’s no way I’m counting all of image 12’s dots! Parks on the map were grey squares (the clock), and the water surrounding the land was tan (squares with seagull-eagle & Lady Liberty’s head). The NYC Subway connects every ethnic neighborhood in the most diverse city in the world and that map was the number one souvenir for everyone in the world that visited NYC.
    Eagle-seagull’s head looks like the Art-Deco eagles on top of Ellis Island Ferry Building.
    Red rectangle looks like the dock on Ellis Island.
    Spires look like the domes on the main Ellis Island Building.
    Arched shape is the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge towers…
    -In the shadow of the grey giant…
    The grey giant is the Verrazzano Bridge.
    -Find the arm that extends over the slender path…
    The arm is the Verrazzano Bridge deck and the slender path is The Narrows.
    -In summer you’ll often hear a whirring sound cars abound…
    Helicopter tours? Roadway of bridge is actually 12 feet lower in summer due to thermal expansion and the traffic causes a whirring sound below.
    Below is Fort Hamilton, literally in the shadow of the bridge.
    -Although the sign nearby speaks of indies native…
    The sign nearby is the sign at Fort Hamilton Triangle Park, several blocks away. The monument there has an eagle on top of an obelisk.
    Hamilton was a British West Indies Native.
    -The natives still speak of him of hard word in 3 vols…
    The natives are Native New Yorkers.
    Hard word…more later.
    3 vols…more later.
    -Take twice as many east steps as the hour or more…
    The images clock shows 11 o’clock, so I walk 22 west steps(The crosswalk from Ft Hamilton Triangle to Ft Hamilton Library is exactly 22 steps). West, because I believe images 1 and 12 are sister/mirror images (east coast-west coast, VZ Bridge-GG Bridge, NYC-SF, immigration). Keep in mind that in the Chicago and Cleveland finds, the ‘out of order hypothesis’ and the ‘reverse/backwards hypothesis’ were used in the find.
    -From the middle of one branch of the V look down and see simple roots in rhapsodic mans soil…
    Branch…more later.
    Upon walking my 22 steps, I’m facing a 4 foot tall iron V. The V is a support to a gate. The gate surrounds the Fort Hamilton Library. The V is inches from the 95 Street Station subway entrance.
    In the 1890’s Mrs. Gelstin of Shore road, with a capital of faith and 5 dollars, donated a collection of books to open the Fort Hamilton Free Library…
    Simple roots!
    In 1901 it became a branch of the Brooklyn Public Library, and in 1905 with a 1.6 million dollar gift from philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, moves to its present building. The Fort Hamilton Library became one of Brooklyn’s first Carnegie Libraries.
    Carnegie is probably best known for Carnegie Hall, one of the most prestigious venues in the world of music…
    Ft Hamilton Library, a Carnegie Library is in rhapsodic mans soil!
    -Or gaze north toward the isle of B…
    Gazing north is Bedloe’s Island, renamed Liberty Island in 1956.
    In the Travel/ Discovery Chanel episode, Preiss’s daughters were asked:”Is there any doubt in your mind that one of the boxes are here (NYC)?” They replied: “So he did say in a very fatherly way”: “Where would daddy bury a treasure?”…Library!
    Hard word…Library!
    3 vols…Library!
    Branch…Library!
    The Native New Yorkers still speak of Hamilton of hard word in 3 vols…
    Fort(1) Hamilton(2) Library(3)!
    The center of woman’s robe has the image of a lion, which is the symbol of a library to every New Yorker I know.
    Perhaps the lion’s face is a nod to Patience and Fortitude, the twin lions outside the New York Public Library and NYC mascots (thanks Gail).
    Co-authors Sean Kelly & Ted Mann are from Montreal, believed to be a casque location. John Jude Palencar was born 20 min away from the Cleveland find. Byron Preiss was born in Brooklyn.
    So, V marks the spot!

    Always respect ALL laws and regulations of locations associated with
    ‘The Secret: A Treasure Hunt’.

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    • Cyn

      Are you in the area? Because I live about 10 blocks away? I’m willing to check it out for you. And give you all due credit…

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    • Cyn

      I just looked on google maps to take a peek. Of course that exact areas view is blocked by a city bus 😣🤣

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      • Tom

        Hello all

        The grey giant is George Washington on Wall Street
        Look at the hands in painting and statue there are a match
        He points to trinity church
        The clock matches
        Hamilton is buried there
        On his head stone is three vols
        Patriot
        Soldier
        Statesman
        Going south on broadway you come to a “v”
        Broadway spits into two
        Both broadway
        Taking right side brings you to peter Minuit flagpole
        He purchased Manhattan
        If you look at flagpole closely you’ll see lion and peter Minuit
        If you look at painting you’ll see lion on left side in foam of wave
        And in crest of wave a shadow of a face in creating wave
        As for the arc it Clinton castle
        Now you can see all
        Statue liberty
        Ellis Island
        Clinton castle
        Flagpole

        22 steps?
        I believe is a ventilation bldg

        Isle of “B” is actually battery park surrounded by broadway
        The rumored purchase site by peter Minuit for the Dutch

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        • Josh

          This is the first place I’ve seen Vols as volunteers, I’ve thought this for a very long time. Additionally, the Hard word is right there on the head stone as well, MARBLE! I believe the natives are New Yorkers and not a reference to native Americans

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          • Deborah

            Okay, I am going to share another hint building on the fact that the casque is not in NYC or the surrounding area…or NY State for that matter. The 3 Vols. is not referring to book volumnes or more than one person..who is not a volunteer but a Champion in a specific sport. If you look into the jewel you will see which sport.

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            • Steven

              Hi, There.

              I’ve been reading these comments. You seem not just to have an inkling, but to be very sure about your thoughts. Have you found the location and are just holding back to let others have some fun? Genuinely curious how you’re so, so sure…

              Happy hunting 🙂

              Steven

      • Dylan

        so howd that go?

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    • Patrice

      Let me help u. Fort Hamilton is her left hand. I thought it a possibility because she points to it however if u actually read the book and solve the whole puzzle you’ll see it’s not.

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    • Patrice

      well, you did good in some spots, not others, V is what the whole picture is all about. Has anyone read the book here? Let’s remember it’s all about immigration and the 3 volumes has to do with Fort Wadsworth on the right hand. That’s where the Indian monument was supposed to go. It didn’t and the 3 vol has to do with that. The V is not Brooklyn. You really think Preiss made it about him? The dots are not subway stations. The woman’s sash are shells not lions. At least you got the isle of B.

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      • Deborah

        The immigration aspect is not Russian…it is likely Spanish.

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  8. georgecraigmanning

    Image 12’s bird…
    When the colonial governors of Nieuw Amsterdam purchased what is now Ellis Island, it was named Gull Island after the birds that were it’s only inhabitants.
    Image 12’s bird’s head is a spot on match of the Art-Deco eagles on top of the Ellis Island ferry building.
    Could this eagle-seagull hybrid be confirmation of Ellis Island?
    I believe so.

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  9. georgecraigmanning

    I don’t believe it’s on EI, just thinking eagle head (match to EI ferry building) on a seagull body (Gull Island) may represent Ellis Island.
    A lot of people looking for that bird

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    • Deborah

      For those looking for the bird…go to the California Native Education Centre and you will find it.

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  10. georgecraigmanning

    Rethinking my theory for The Secret- Image 12/Verse 10

    Looking at image 12…
    Arched shape matches the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge tower.
    Colored dots sure do resemble the Massimo Vignelli designed NYC Subway Map of the 1970’s. Colored dots represented each train line, parks were dark grey squares (same as image 12’s clock), the surrounding water was tan (same as the boxes Lady Liberty’s head and eagle-seagull are in image 12), and the entire map is sectioned into squares (similar to image 12’s panels).
    This map was the number one souvenir for everyone in the world who visited NYC. I believe this tells us we should be in NYC.
    Eagle-seagull’s head is a match to the Art-Deco eagles on top of the Ellis Island ferry building. The original name of EI was Gull Island, explaining the body.
    Reddish rectangle framed in gray is a good match to the main entrance of the Fort Hamilton Library. In 1980, the door was reddish with a limestone door surround.
    I believe the blue Orthodox Church tells us we she be in Brooklyn. It represents Brooklyn’s nickname, ‘The Borough of Churches’.
    The waves represent the neighborhood of BKLYN we should be in, Bay Ridge.
    The 3 ‘Water Droplets’ beneath Lady Liberty’s robe are the 2 acorn shaped lights on each side of the Ft Hamilton Library entrance and the ornate streetlight in between at the curb. The faceted jewel is literally showing the location of the casque. The angle and perspective is spot on.
    Lady Liberty is in the shape of a triangle. Ft Hamilton Triangle Park is across the street from the library.
    Finally, Lady Liberty’s robe appears to have the image of a lion in the center. A lion represents the mascot of The New York Public Library to every New Yorker I know.

    Reading verse 10…
    Ok, let’s say I change the order of some of lines?

    In the shadow
    Of the grey giant
    Of the v
    Find the arm that
    Extends over the slender path
    Or gaze north
    Toward the isle of b
    Cars abound
    Although the sign
    Nearby
    Speaks of Indies native
    The natives still speak
    Of him of hard word in 3 vols
    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic man’s soil
    From the middle of one branch
    Take twice as many east steps as the hour
    Or more
    In summer
    You’ll often hear a whirring sound
    Look down

    Grey giant is the VZ Bridge. Grey because that’s how BP’s Canadian co-authors spell gray.
    Arm is the bridge deck and slender path is The Narrows.
    Gazing north from my location, I’m looking at Liberty Island, formerly Bedloe’s Island.
    Sign nearby is Ft Hamilton Library.
    Hamilton was an Indies native.
    The natives are Native New Yorkers.
    Hard word in 3 vols is a play on words. Hard word, 3 vols, branch, lion represents library. Library in 3 vols is
    Fort Hamilton Library.
    There’s a placard in the vestibule of the library…
    In the 1880’s, Mrs. Gelstin of Shore Road, with a capital of faith and 5 dollars, donated a collection of books to open the Fort Hamilton Free Library.
    That’s simple roots.
    In 1901 it became a branch of The Brooklyn Public Library, and in 1905 with a 1.6 million dollar gift from philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, moves to its new building. Ft Hamilton Library became one of BKLYN’s first Carnegie Libraries.
    Carnegie is probably best known for Carnegie Hall, one of the most prestigious venues in the world of music.
    That’s rhapsodic man’s soil.
    From the middle of one branch (Ft Hamilton Library is the branch and its entrance is dead center) I take exactly 22 east steps (twice as many steps as the hour) across the street to the curb. 2-3 steps (or more) from the curb and I’m in Fort Hamilton Triangle Park. Ft Hamilton Triangle Park has always been called Pigeon Park by the locals because of the large number of pigeons living there. In summer you’ll often hear a whirring sound because whirring is the sound birds wings make. Look it up.
    Directly across the street from the library’s entrance (22steps or more, I look down at a small plot of green with grass and shrubs. It’s the southern tip of Ft Hamilton Triangle Park.
    The plot is exactly where the faceted jewel is in image 12 in proportion to the library’s lights and streetlight (the water droplets). Standing there looking south is the VZ Bridge tower perfectly aligned.
    In the EU episode, BP’s daughters were asked: “Is there any doubt in your mind that one of the boxes is here (NYC)?
    They Replied: “so he did say in a very fatherly way”: “Where would daddy bury a treasure?”
    I’m thinking 25 steps from a library with a post card view of The VZ Bridge.
    Co-authors Kelly and Mann are from Montreal, believed to be a casque location. JJP was born 20 minutes from the Cleveland Find. BP was born in Brooklyn.

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    • Deborah

      I do like your adjustments to the verse as I can see that you are really trying to make sense of the verse itself. Drop me an email and I will help you out. Cheers…

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    • Matt C

      This has got to be it!!!
      To correlate some more with the image … Check this out:

      http://thesecret.pbworks.com/w/page/86303071/Image%2012

      So they say there might be a “74” in the waves….I think it might actually be a 94!
      The address of the library is 9412 which is right at 94th street!

      They also say the waves crashing might refer to the “Bay ridge” area of Brooklyn which is right where the library is.

      I believe “the middle of the V” also may be a reference to the v shape of 4th and 5th ave…the library is right “in the middle of one arm of the v”

      It seems there is also a lion shape on top of a nearby building (from the above link).

      Maybe we can convince the local parks Sept to let us plant some flowers there or something!!!
      Or bring a Shovel and orange vests and traffic cones and beat up old pickup and sneak in there xD

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  11. John B

    A correction is need on this site on the line

    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic mans soil

    Need the ‘s on mans. The book contains

    “ And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic man’s soil”

    Without the apostrophe to show Poseidon, the line takes on a different meaning.

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    • John B

      Possession- not Poseidon. (Darn autocorrect.)

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  12. Cynthia W

    These images are so crystal clear! I’m just curious why the blue architectural buildings are not in the close ups

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    • Chris

      Seconding this question- where is the Russian building in the “original” painting?

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    • Deborah

      Because they are not what people think they are. This image keeps you guessing and it will pull you back and forth between two places continuously until you finally lock it in. They are not Russian btw.

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      • Hudt

        Your comments are interesting, but there’s no such thing as the “California Native Education Centre.” I followed your clues, but they don’t seem to connect.

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  13. RuneD

    I think its on coney island

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  14. Erin

    I think the casque is on Coney Island. The whirring in summer are the rides. That is all. I am terrible at riddles.

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    • Deborah

      You are actually very good at riddles as you are half right.

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  15. Brandon

    I believe I see some coordinates in the bubbles. The left one in red looks like a 28 and the last one on the right I see a 64. Still working on the middle one. Any feedback would be great.

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    • Brandon

      Also the wings could be considered a 33 if there’s one in the box next to it that’s 4 coordinates.

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      • Deborah

        Or…it could be parking spots.

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        • Brian G

          Hi.
          My trip last year to the Verrazzano bridge made me realize that it is actually painted a green like a seafoam green color and not gray (grey).The fog can be a grey giant.
          The northern sea in the Secret is Grey.
          The narrows is the shadow under her nose.
          The weird shark fin shape on her neck sure looks like Gravesend Bay.
          The tear like pattern if you look at an image of raindrops are dead on as raindrops. Same pattern exactly.
          I have solved at least 10 versions of N.Y.
          None were correct.
          So my last solution wraps you around Brooklyn and then I can’t say but I have matched each clue including arm and it had zero to do with Hamilton.
          I am probably wrong again but every clue matches exactly minus the v. Simple roots and branch could also be a mathematic angle.
          I skipped to the matching final monument.
          So this can be “solved” a million different ways as I have realised. I have read 10 other people who have ” solved” it and they are all different.

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          • Brian G.

            Oh I should mention that my book is a little low res but if you blow up the clock image patterns can be viewed of farm scenes and a logo looking shape with an “S” that looks allot like Owlhead and there is supposed to be an “S” shaped tree there.
            There is also a beatnik looking chickenman with the Brooklyn navy yard beard.
            So for me they were all rabbit holes but maybe someone else can make something of it.

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  16. Brandon

    I found the middle bubble it also looks like 26. Let me know what you all see.

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  17. Daniel

    I had some feeling that Sunset Park was part of the puzzle so today I went there and took crazy amount of pictures. You can see everything from the top of the hill. Everything important to NYC landmarks, i.e. Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, Manhattan, Battery Park, etc… One side of the V shaped walk path has exactly 22 steps. There is a huge grey bark colored tree at the top of the hill which has many arms stretching across the slender path. I can post all the pictures if someone wants to take a look. Just tell me where to post them. I also suspect Prospect Park and McCarren Park, which both are shaped like the woman’s shoulders, arms and dress. I see a “75” in the painting and the address of Prospect Park is 75 Prospect Park Avenue. Prospect Park is close to the library, botanical gardens and many other interesting coincidences. McCarren Park is located right next to a Russian Orthodox Church which has windows shape like the arch and “Windows”. The roof is an exact match of the orthodox church outline in the painting. Back to Prospect Park, when you overlay the park and painting and match them up to size, the left hand finger points exactly to a small park next to Botanical Gardens and the Library.

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    • Mike Cattell

      I’d love to see those pictures you took at Sunset Park. Can you email them. [email protected].

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    • David Ahrens

      Daniel,

      Mike Cattell and I like how the Sunset Park pool resembles Image 12 if you over lay it.

      We haven’t searched there yet, but see that you have. We would like to discuss what you’ve seen and look at pictures you’ve taken.

      I’m going to include our email addresses.

      Mine is [email protected]

      Mike’s- [email protected]

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      • Deborah

        You are all doing so much work and especially regarding the branch. It is not part of a tree. Sorry. Drop me an email if you really want to know about this. Cheers…

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  18. G Allen, FL

    Hey folks, I have some ideas for you. I am skeptical that anything can be found after all these years in regards to the NY treasure but here are my ideas that may be new to you. I just don’t have any desire to ever visit NY and go digging, so maybe this will help someone else.

    There are dark images under the L/R arms of the woman. Many say it is a large 51. I think it is more likely “SL” meaning Statue of Liberty.
    I believe Battery Park is a 100% where to look. If you look at the image matching the domes of Ellis Island, in the center of the image I believe that peninsula Island extending into the blue of the image is Manhattan. And at the lower left there is a distinct dot where Battery Park is. So the dot marks Battery Park.

    If you google Eagle wings monument images in NY, the only image that matches the bird wings is the East Coast Memorial in Battery Park.
    The bird image tail looks like a Squid. So does the legs. The memorial is in honor to dead military men lost at sea during the war. Sea men are called squids.

    The clock could be referring to the clock tower on Pier A in Battery Park.

    The square emerald in the water is about where the Statue of Liberty would be in relation to Manhattan.

    The water wave imagery is possibly relating to the men lost at sea as well as the huge dark skull in lower right (sea dead).

    The arch area above the woman’s head is very close match to the large door entry of Clinton Castle.

    The Battery Park Cannon could be the reference to arm over path.

    The Fort George Memorial Tablet looks like the yellow square in the image.

    The Jerusalem Grove Labyrinth could match the large swirls in the bottom of the image and the various paths in the park.. hard to tell

    The Netherland Monument could refer to a Dutch East India Company (Indies) and American Natives. Maybe he misread the sign. Manhattan was purchased from Natives.

    The various bubble images could relate to all the granite monuments. Granite looks like that.

    I will stop here and assume it is in Battery Park. Now we are just looking for what is the “V” in Battery Park?

    The only obvious Vs in the park are Giovanni da Verrazzano (V) and the Eagle wings which make a V if you look at them straight on and also in the image there is the obvious missing part of the circle in the Eagles wings that create a V reference. There is also a V in the Clock image (VI) but I can’t make much use of that one.

    The Verrazzano statue has been moved and park paths have been modified, so it may be impossible to ever find it if that monument is the V reference. My guess is that the V is more likely the East Coast Memorial as the Verrazzano statue would be possibly too obvious. You would have to look at the Eagle to realize it’s wings make a V.

    So the next step would be to understand from what point to walk 22 steps east of the East Coast Memorial. This gets difficult and I can’t figure that out over the Internet with images. I’m guessing that 22 steps east of the East Coast Memorial there may have been a park sign reference to old Manhattan, since this park area is the oldest and original part of Manhattan purchased from the Indians. If so, does the sign still exist? This would assume the reference “Look down And see simple roots In rhapsodic man’s soil” to be referring to roots of MAN-hattan on a park sign.

    In the end, I don’t think it would be wise to go digging around for something in Battery Park this many years after the fact since the park is too important now and who knows how much it has changed. Good luck.

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  19. scott harrison

    The Statue of Liberty places us in NYC
    The eagle looks like one from the Penn Station
    The eagle has the body of a seagull, we are looking for a Penn eagle near the shore
    The Indies native is obviously Alexander Hamilton
    The eagle facing Liberty commemorates the Merchant Marine and Coast Guard
    The Merchant Marine and Coast Guard started with Hamilton
    FDR created the US Merchant Marine Academy on the shore of Long Island
    The USMMA is home to two Penn eagles
    North of the USMMA is City Island, the island of the Bronx
    The USMMA is the former estate of Chrysler
    The Chrysler Building casts a precise shadow on the east wall of Grand Central
    The frame in the image perfectly matches the Grand Central windows
    The windows contain a slender walkway
    The arm of Aquarius extends out above the walkway
    The ceiling zodiac forms a V and 22 steps east (in the sky) leads to Gemini (the twins)
    Three blocks east at the United Nations we find a pair of Manhattan’s twin buildings
    FDR led the creation of the United Nations
    Duke Ellington’s last work was a dedication to the UN
    Ellington became well known for his version of Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue
    Each pane of colors and patterns in the image represent Ellington song titles
    Ellington’s soil was Washington and Hamilton Heights, Sugar Hill and Harlem
    Looking down, the lines in the gown trace the streets in that area
    The markers fall directly on Harlem playgrounds
    The Jewel falls on the Alexander Hamilton Playground, with a sign to the native
    While Hamilton is an important figure, the people of Harlem celebrate Miles Davis
    Davis took the Bebop of Ellington and created Hard bop, the jazz fusion we known today
    The park had a rectangular area bordering a concrete retaining wall
    The clock shows the bordering wall and a center pole

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    • Deborah

      Wow…you have done so much work. The images and the verse are painful in the least as everything is so subjective…we could all come up with a different version. I just noticed that my email will not be published on this site…and that is after suggesting some members drop me a line if they would like some helpful information. Look in the jewel as there are BIG hints there. If someone would like to discuss more they can email me at [email protected] Cheers…

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  20. Euey T

    In all the above clues discussed on this chain for the NYC location, it seems like everyone is overthinking these clues. You can see all of the verse clues from the exact location of the buried casque.

    Stop trying to overthink the meaning of the clues, and just simplify what you are looking for with the image & the verse.

    Good luck all finding this buried casque !!

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  21. George C Manning

    Updating my theory of The Secret NYC Image 12/Verse 10 by georgecraigmanning
    In a May 9th interview, artist John Jude Palencar was asked how he approaches creating imaginative artwork for a book cover, he said,
    “I get a synopsis. I give them thumbnails. A lot of times I want to do a piece of work that will stand on its own. I try to use archetypes and symbols.
    Sometimes I can give away the plot on the cover and people won’t know until they’ve read it.”
    Archetypes and symbols? Personal iconography? Hmm…

    Looking at image 12…
    Arched shape matches the Verrazzano-Narrows Bridge tower.
    Colored dots sure do resemble the Massimo Vignelli designed NYC Subway Map of the 1970’s. Colored dots represented each train line, parks were dark grey squares (same as image 12’s clock), the surrounding water was tan (same as the boxes Lady Liberty’s head and eagle-seagull are in image 12), and the entire map is sectioned into squares (similar to image 12’s panels).
    This map was the number one souvenir for everyone in the world who visited NYC. This tells us we should be in New York City.
    Eagle-seagull’s head is a match to the Art-Deco eagles on top of the Ellis Island ferry building. The original name of EIlis Island was Gull Island, explaining the body.
    Reddish rectangle framed in gray is a good match to the main entrance of the Fort Hamilton Library. In 1980, the door was reddish with a limestone door surround.
    I believe the blue Orthodox Church (Watching the 1978 movie The Deer Hunter. Story takes place in Clairiton PA, south of Pittsburgh. However the weeding scenes were filmed @ St Theodicies Russian Orthodox Cathedral in the Tremont neighborhood of Cleveland Ohio. Filming the movie, amateur Russian immigrant extras lined up for wedding dance sequences, drank liquor & beer & brought real gift-wrapped presents). Artist John Jude Palencar was born 15 min from that church. Archetypes and symbols? Personal iconography? It represents Brooklyn’s nickname, ‘The Borough of Churches’, and tells us we should be in Brooklyn.
    The waves represent the neighborhood of BKLYN we should be in, Bay Ridge.
    The 3 ‘Water Droplets’ beneath Lady Liberty’s robe are the 2 acorn shaped lights on each side of the Ft Hamilton Library entrance and the ornate streetlight in between at the curb. The faceted jewel is literally showing the location of the casque. The angle and perspective is spot on.
    Lady Liberty is in the shape of a triangle. Ft Hamilton Triangle Park is across the street from the library (exactly 22 east steps).
    Finally, Lady Liberty’s robe appears to have the image of a lion in the center. A lion represents the mascot of The New York Public Library to every New Yorker I know.

    Reading verse 10…
    Ok, let’s say I change the order of some of lines to read…

    In the shadow
    Of the grey giant
    Of the v
    Find the arm that
    Extends over the slender path
    Or gaze north
    Toward the isle of b
    Although the sign
    Nearby
    Speaks of Indies native
    The natives still speak
    Of him of hard word in 3 vols
    Look down
    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic man’s soil
    From the middle of one branch
    Take twice as many east steps as the hour
    Or more
    From the middle of one branch
    In summer
    You’ll often hear a whirring sound
    Cars abound

    Grey giant is the VZ Bridge. Grey because that’s how BP’s Canadian co-authors spell gray.
    Arm is the bridge deck and slender path is The Narrows.
    Gazing north from my location, I’m looking at Liberty Island, formerly Bedloe’s Island.
    Sign nearby is Ft Hamilton Library.
    Hamilton was an Indies native.
    The natives are Native New Yorkers.
    Hard word in 3 vols is a play on words. Hard word, 3 vols, branch, lion…represents library. Library in 3 vols is
    1 Fort 2 Hamilton 3 Library.
    There’s a placard in the vestibule of the library…
    In the 1880’s, Mrs. Gelstin of Shore Road, with a capital of faith and 5 dollars, donated a collection of books to open the Fort Hamilton Free Library.
    That’s simple roots.
    In 1901 it became a branch of The Brooklyn Public Library, and in 1905 with a 1.6 million dollar gift from philanthropist Andrew Carnegie, moves to its new building. Ft Hamilton Library became one of BKLYN’s first Carnegie Libraries.
    Carnegie is probably best known for Carnegie Hall, one of the most prestigious venues in the world of music.
    That’s rhapsodic man’s soil.
    From the middle of one branch (Ft Hamilton Library is the branch and its entrance is dead center) I take exactly 22 east steps (twice as many steps as the hour) across the street to the curb. 2-3 steps (or more) from the curb and I’m in Fort Hamilton Triangle Park. Ft Hamilton Triangle Park has always been called Pigeon Park by the locals because of the large number of pigeons living there. In summer, when pigeons leave their nests, you’ll often hear a whirring sound because whirring is the sound birds wings make.
    Cars abound because the park is a small one block triangle in the middle of 4th and 5th avenues. 4th Avenue is a main thoroughfare in Brooklyn stretching 6 miles from Times Plaza to the Belt Parkway.
    Directly across the street from the library’s entrance (22steps or more),I look down at a small plot of green with grass and shrubs. It’s the southern tip of Ft Hamilton Triangle Park.
    The plot is exactly where the faceted jewel is in image 12 in proportion to the library’s lights and streetlight (the water droplets). Standing there looking south is the VZ Bridge tower perfectly aligned.
    In the EU episode, BP’s daughters were asked: “Is there any doubt in your mind that one of the boxes is here (NYC)?
    They Replied: “so he did say in a very fatherly way”: “Where would daddy bury a treasure?”
    I’m thinking 25 steps from a library with a post card view of The VZ Bridge In BP’s hometown of Brooklyn.
    Co-authors Kelly and Mann are from Montreal, believed to be a casque location. JJP was born 20 minutes from the Cleveland Find. BP was born in Brooklyn.
    Respect ALL laws & regulations associated with The Secret: A Treasure Hunt Locations.

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  22. Jan

    I just saw Expedition Unknown and I am new to this topic.
    But what I can tell for sure is the “A Beautiful Mind” code-reading is way over the top here.

    You just need the starting location and can narrow it down within a 100 meter google earth radius
    Just check out my picture:
    https://i.imgur.com/OCht45p.jpg

    The Verse is not the order you have to go, just check Boston for example.

    In the shadow
    Of the grey giant

    We see a grey giant in the picture and the shape reminds me of the twin towers. I mean what else do you need?

    In Boston we have the Statue from christopher columbus
    In Chicago the The Bowman and The Spearman statue

    The natives still speak
    Of him of Hard word in 3 Vols.

    “De Halve Maen” or Netherland Monument in the Battery Park and across the street is the National Museum of the American Indian.

    Take twice as many east steps as the hour
    Or more

    Now we walk 22 or more steps (depends on body size) to the east.

    Find the arm that
    Extends over the slender path

    Walk until you see the American Merchant Mariners’ Memorial.

    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic mans soil
    Or gaze north
    Toward the isle of B.

    You can see the Liberty Island from here, just go to her direction

    Of the v
    Look down
    And see simple roots
    In rhapsodic mans soil

    There are exactly 5 lamps, that tells you to dig around the 5th lamp
    Here is a picture:
    https://imgur.com/RoWv3Fj

    What do you guys think?
    Greetings from Germany

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  23. George C Manning

    NYC-Image 12/Verse 10

    From the middle of one branch
    Of the v

    Perhaps ‘hard word, 3 vols, & branch’ are a play on words representing a library?
    what if The 1Fort 2Hamilton 3Library (3 vols) is the ‘branch’. It’s entrance is dead center. You enter through a vestibule. Perhaps ‘the v’ is vestibule?
    There’s a very interesting placard hanging in the vestibule telling the Ft Hamilton Library’s history. I read it and my takeaway was ‘simple roots in rhapsodic man’s soil’.

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  24. George C Manning

    The Secret image 12/verse 10
    George C Manning

    Image 12
    The eagle-seagull’s top of the right wing strikes me as unusual.
    The border on the top of the arch doesn’t continue through it and there is an interruption of the border between the two wings.
    The bottom border of the purple panel, the same, however, there is shading where the border would have been, almost creating a line.
    The top of the right wing has detailed feathers where the left wing does not.
    The effect is that the top of the right wing is isolated. Why?
    I count 9 distinct feathers on the right wing.
    This is over 5 distinct panels. Why 5?
    Below those are 4 distinct panels. Why 4?
    So, 9,5 and 4.
    In my theory of image 12/verse 10, the exact location of my ‘X marks the spot’ is the planter/plot at the southern tip of Fort Hamilton Triangle Park.
    That location is exactly at the intersection of 95th Street and 4th Avenue (95 and 4).
    Coincidence?

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  25. Jessie Hanshaw

    George C Manning,
    To my understanding he buried them in maybe less discrete places? This triangle park seems that it would be very noticeable if you saw somebody digging in there, considering how small it is in there. Although, your explanation has been the most intriguing and spot on that I have heard.

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    • George C Manning

      Thanks Jessie. In 2020 I would completely agree with you. It’s not the most discreet location & you’d sure be noticed if you were digging there.
      However, in the 1980’s to its renovation in 1998 it was a different story. Most people would cross the street than walk past.
      The final stop on the R train is at that location & vagrants were forced out of the subway there, many spending the night, as well as their days in the park. The park was also a well known drug spot. The park acquired a tall chain-link fence in the 1980’s that a local restaurant would lock every night & unlock in the morning. Finally in 1998 the city approved the $430,000 rehabilitation of the park.
      My thought is that if BP were to bury a body in that park in the 80’s to its renovation, not a soul would notice.

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  26. Nicolas

    Hi guys i recently discover this book and get fascinating by it. And the most intriguing picture for me is this one from New York. i am from argentina so if I made a gramatical mistake, im sorry for that.

    I was wondering if instead of being buried in New York its in New Jersey, in the Liberty State Park. I am no expert in puzzles and less in that area, but from there you can see all the things very clear like the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island including the domes and the tower with the eagles. Also the verse says “In summer
You’ll often hear a whirring sound”, in the summer of 1916 was a explosion in that park, the black tom explosion. I know it says often but all the verse is open to interpretation. And the central rail road of the park has a clock and the window are a better match to the picture. Thats some thoughts of this chances.

    Also I have some thoughts of the verse itself.

    “In the shadow
Of the Grey giant” maybe it means the building of a newspaper, like The New York Times?

    “Although the sign” maybe it means something like this https://www.signingsavvy.com/sign/ALTHOUGH/6198/1

    “From the middle of one branch, Of the v, Look down
And see simple roots ” simple roots maybe means, if you are in a park, a playground for kids, or a kindergarten.

    Bye!

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  27. Euey T.

    Look for that V near the base of the arm
    And 22 steps east later you will be more than just warm
    Then Look Down slowly so you will not miss
    The digging spot under manicured bricks
    Where you can look due north to see the isle of B.
    Whose man’s soil grows simple roots, as you can see
    As well as the grey giant, and an old rusty sign
    That shows the Hard word and the “him” right behind
    With summer whirring and cars blurring also there
    So when you discover, and if you dare
    To uncover this treasure under stone, in cold soil
    You will need to dig quickly, with purpose & toil
    But the reward will be something that you will reveal
    Is the answer to this puzzle, that this treasure is real

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  28. Miguel Ángel

    La V es la línea del metro en la segunda avenida. Dejó de funcionar en 2010 baldosas de color morado y azulejos blancos y morados.El hombre rapsódico es una referencia a Grecia Barrio Astoria en Queens.Yo pienso que se refiere al ASTORIA PARK ,o también al Sócrates Park . Mucha suerte en la búsqueda.

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  29. Miguel Angel

    La V era una línea del metro en la sengunda avenida en Manhattan se cerró en 2010 sus baldosas y azulejos eran de color morado.La tierra del hombre rapsódico es una alusión a la antigua Grecia y creo que se refiere al barrio griego en Qeens ,(Astoria) mi opinión es que el edificio azul de la imagen puede ser la (catedral Saint Markella).cupulas azules . Para concluir pienso que es posible que la caja esté enterrada en Astoria Park o en Sócrates esculture Park . Mis razones: Piedra Aguamarina es la piedra asignada a Grecia.el mayor número de griegos fuera de Grecia se encuentra en Nueva York en Astoria( Queens) .

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  30. Alexandra (Belgium)

    New here, reading your views, waw!
    I googled eleven O’clock in New York and very surprisingly got 11 O’clock numbers for shows on Broadway. Looked which were popular in the late ’70s
    Found ‘Staying alive’ and Saturday Night Fever. The disco named in the film is 2001 Odyssey, then situated in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, NYC.
    There is a park with a rune stone, commemorating the landing of Leif Ericson in the year 1000. Other statues of Leif Ericson can be found in Boston, Milwaukee, Chicago, Saint Paul Minnesota and Seattle.
    By surfing from one item to another I stumbled on the statue of John Ericsson in Battery Park. He is holding a ship in his hand.

    Never been to New York and probably never will, just reading a lot.

    https://www.heyridge.com/2018/07/the-long-forgotten-history-of-leif-ericson-park/

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  31. Adrian Krasniqi

    Ok so i am posting this anagram that I came up using the first letters of each line , i got only one letter extra , the letter i.
    Personally I think is a coincidence but those who are into Coney Island might find it interesting and who knows it could turn out to be a legit clue and it might help them with their research.
    So the anagram is like this :
    I float afoot to coney is
    Only one letter remains the letter i
    Good luck !

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    • Mr. Contino

      I found the same anagram, only using all of the capital letters in the verse. My 5 extra letters are BHVII. Coney Island Amusement Park would definitely produce a whirring sound in the summer. Cars abound. I think you are on the right track. Good luck.

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  32. Jane

    So would I be crazy to think the picture is NY but the poem everyone has been using is not the correct passage to find the NY box and key?

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  33. Autry

    it is not new york I believe it is Seattle Washington because of Bainbridge island is the isle of B. and there is a giant grey statue in Seattle. in the picture in the poem, there is a bird with the Seattle seahawk face!

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  34. George C Manning

    The Secret, image 12 NYC
    George C Manning
    Perhaps the church in image 12 is a clever disguise.
    Instead of focusing on the architecture of a churches exterior, what if we focused on the interior? After all, studying a stained glass window can’t be done from the outside, it has to be done from the inside with the light shining through.
    In my theory, verse & image lead me down a short path only several blocks long. The starting point is the Verrazzano Narrows Bridge (grey giant) at 4th Avenue and John Paul Jones Park.
    I continue walking down down 4th Ave in Bay Ridge because the lady in image 12 is showing 4 fingers in her free hand. Visually, my next stop is The Roman Catholic Church of St. Patrick on 4th Ave & 95th St. I realize this is not a Russian Orthodox Church like the one in image 12, however…
    Inside the RC Church of St Patrick I’m immediately struck by a tall blue colored, bordered arch, the exact same shape as image 12.
    In the center of the arch is a white statue of Mother Mary in a comparable robe, & in almost the identical pose as the woman in image 12.
    I’m further struck by the stained glass windows above her surrounding the church. At the top of the tall arched windows are designs of stained glass circles in the upper sections of the windows. These circles are the same exact colors as the colored circles in the panels in image 12.
    In a May 9th interview, JJP was asked how he approaches imaginative artwork for a book cover, he said,
    “I get a synopsis, I give them thumbnails. A lot of times I want to do a piece of work that will stand on its own. I try to use archetypes & symbols. Sometimes I can give away the plot on the cover & people won’t know until they’ve read it.” Asked about the world he creates in his artwork, JJP said, “An area I’m exploring is about faith & belief & mortality, the biggest archetypes that people deal with & woven in with that is personal iconography.”
    What if JJP used HIS archetype church, Saint Theodosius Orthodox Church, in his hometown of Ohio to represent the RC Church of St. Patrick in image 12? And if he did, perhaps he drew upon the archetypes, symbols, shapes, & colors inside inside the RC Church of St. Patrick to create a large part of image 12.
    My theory continues to the Ft Hamilton Library, then to Pigeon Park’s southern tip where I believe the casque is buried.
    The church, the library and Pigeon Park are all at the intersection of 95th St & 4th Ave, which are literally in the shadow of the looming VZ Bridge tower several blocks away. Almost everything in image 12 can be seen from my X marks the spot.

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  35. Richard R Seaman

    The eagle face on the seagull looks a-lot like those atop the Chrysler Building….

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  36. Lani

    I got a question. Why is this one believed to be in New York?

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  37. Liz

    what if it’s not in manhattan?
    ok so I am fairly new to this and I was just messing around with the image and I noticed something odd about the bird’s feet I thought it was too oddly shaped to not be something significant so I made an outline of the bird’s legs and feet including the space in between the legs. I took the outline and I tried to put it all around manhattan but there was no place that it seemed to fit. so I started trying to fit it around the manhattan area and I found that it seems to fit in an area and a park in Brooklyn. if you look at the right side of the lady a shape is made it looks almost exactly like the park in Brooklin also the head of the bird kind of shows up if you look at the map

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  38. Ryan Contino

    Here’s one I’ve been working on. The grey giant is the old GG train line on the NYC Subway. It becomes elevated at the Smith-9th Streets Station, and Prospect Park is in its shadow. The whirring sound in summer could be either bicycles or lawnmowers in the park and cars abound all around Prospect Park.

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  39. Ryan Contino

    Building on my last comment about the Nitehawk movie theater, is there a shot that Rocky III was playing in that theater at the time of the book release?

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  40. Dana Reed

    UPDATE I think I know EXACTLY where it is. Its in John Paul Jones Park……And the obelisk he references IS NOT the V…the V is actually the name of the Verrazzano Bridge. And what is a BRANCH of the V? Its one of the things extending off of it!! I.e. a CABLE!.

    And in the park, what do you find? A cable from the actual Verrazzano Bridge! see here: https://forgotten-ny.com/2013/10/john-paul-jones-park/

    Go find it in the park. Stand in the middle of it. Walk 22 steps east..and dig!! Folks say he gives exact directions? there you go. Couldn’t get any more specific.

    btw…the natives/hard/ 3 vol….. its the 3 HARDCOVER volumes of Hamiltons Papers. 3 HARDcovered volumes of words, seen by the “natives.” Early amiercans. Founding Fathers!!

    If you find it, please tell me. good luck!!

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  41. Dana Reed

    Here is a longer description as it appears my comments didnt get approved:

    So, I just started this hunt last night…but I think I found it. Skip to the bottom if you trust me.

    Else: the line most question about Hard words in 3 Vols. In my initial opinion, I thought it referred to the “Federalist Papers.” The NATIVES being the “founding fathers”. Hamilton wrote the Federalist Papers, yes……but not really…They were a collection of essays written by THREE people wrote them. 3 vols… 3 volunteers. Not volumes. Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.

    And at the time, they were HARD words about anti-federalists…meaning the were HARSH.

    But that’s not the clue. I was wrong.

    What, then, is Hard Word in 3 vols?

    The clue is that Hamilton published his works/papers in 3 VOLUMES…in HARDcover books.

    see here: https://www.leftbankbooksny.com/pages/books/478/alexander-hamilton/the-works-of-alexander-hamilton

    It literally is “hard” covered words published in 3 volumes..

    Proof: look at the barrel of the wave in the image. turn it 90 degrees. Isnt that Hamiltons face?

    Thus, the Hamilton clue doesnt mean much, beyond tell us that we are next to the bridge. John Paul Jones PARK is next to is, and it says its in HIS soil.

    “rhapsodic man” is a logical play on the led zeppelin member. And its a park that shares his name.

    Notice in the water in the image, there is a sycamore tree horizontally in it. Look in the park..those trees are all over. I had originally assumed the design of the bark on the tree would map exactly to the the image and that would be the correct tree near which to dig. I don’t think that is true now. I think its just a clue to show you are in the right place.

    So lets agree that JPJ park where its at. But where?? Mere steps from the V, right? Read on.

    What is the V? First, I thought this…. In JPJ park is a giant obelisk….. Its literally a 3d giant upside down ‘V.’ Seems pretty self-explanatory to me. That’s the V…RIGHT!?! WRONG.

    Wrong V. There is another v in the park…read on!

    In doing some research I came across one simple forgotten artifact in the park. And its the KEY clue to telling you where to dig..

    The line reads like this (note: its important as to how you read it) “Take twice as many east steps as the hour, or more, from the middle of one branch of the v, and look down.”

    The V is actually referring to the Verrazzano Bridge. The ACTUAL BRIDGE. BUT what is in the park that is from the actual bridge? Answer…a cable from it. And what is a BRANCH of the V? Its one of the things extending off of it!! I.e. a CABLE!

    And in the park, what do you find? A cable from the actual Verrazzano Bridge! see here: https://forgotten-ny.com/2013/10/john-paul-jones-park/

    In sum….Go find it in the park. Stand in the middle of it. Walk 22 steps east..and dig!!

    “Take 22 east steps as the hour, or more, from the middle of cable from the Verrazzano bridge, and look down.” Simple roots, may simply mean “grass.”

    Folks say the author gives exact directions to the treasure. there you go. Couldn’t get any more specific.

    If you find it, please reach out and tell me. good luck!

    On a side note..why would it be here? Because this is the park with the best view of the bridge. Its were newly wed cpls get their picture taken. And its where the US first fought the English. Its a forgotten park with an incredible amount of history. A perfect place to hide a treasure.

    As proof, many have noted that the splash of the wave looks like an English lion. The English were first fought in the park. There is, in fact, a memorial to it there from the Daughters of Foreign War.

    As further proof, the final clue is to look north at the isle of d: if we look north, we see the isle of d…liberty island. Thus, the statue of liberty and other imagery in the drawing.

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